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While this question does tie into the previous question we asked, What D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for Pathfinder? and a project we are currently working on, what we want your answer to be based on the simple question: Name the four best adventure writers for Pathfinder?
If the AP is going to conclude with a new setting, ala a "converged multiverse" event - where a new setting is born from the outcome (I LOVE this concept, by the way!) it's going to need to be sustainable -- DC has used these events as an attempt (you can argue the successfulness) of cleaning up setting continuity.
Honestly, we are looking o do this and find a way to make all of this converged multiverse material completely 100% OGL where any 3PP can use it in their setting.
So if you include something too gonzo, it's likely going to need to be dialed way back in the new timeline. IMO, if you don't do this, you're just creating a niche/flash-in-the-pan setting and not something that will last. So it would make sense to throw out some of the more "out there" settings as endgame results -- Ravenloft, Dark Suns, Eberron, Planescape, etc. However, the culmination of the new setting can't just be a new version of the original. Gonzo/niche doesn't last & won't receive the support it should to become a setting people will care about. I certainly don't need another "interesting, but I'll never run it" setting in my RPG library.
We are planning for it to me a campaign setting that is 100% OGL and people can use to add and pick and choose what they want to do with it. Wouldn't that be cool to have?
First off, I love the idea of riffing off an "Infinite Crisis"/parallel universe concept. Coincidentally, my primary Pathfinder campaign started in Golarion but I wanted to give Midgard a try. My players wanted to migrate over fully to Midgard but some of the players preferred their original Golarion-based characters. A short "let's do it like the DC multiverse" discussion later and several alternate versions of the Golarion counterparts manifested in Midgard -- Win-Win!
I am hoping we can pull this off in a way that you will get to travel to several 3PP campaign setting where you will be able to get a feel and understanding for them. There are so many cool campaign setting that people don't know about and never played it.
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I have to say I am NOT surprised that Ravenloft and Dark Sun are so popular campaign setting (I was inspired to do Obsidian Apocalypse because of that same information). But, I am surprised there we SO MANY Spelljammer and Planescape fans out there. While they are considered to be "dead" niche categories, the interest is still strong.
I am not insulting you. I have not EVER insulted in this complete thread. What I have done is not answer you the question they way you apparently want me to. I have not changed my question from the initial post.
If you think I have insulted you, I am sorry. That was not my intent.
OK the point that many seem to be missing in this:"... campaign setting people would like to see converted? Never did we say we would be able to do it. We never talked about the legality. We never talked about the IP. We asked: What four (4) D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for use in Pathfinder? Once again like a poor marksman, people keep missing the target.
Steve Geddes wrote:
FWIW, The question of which settings I'd rather have converted to pathfinder (which I answered) has a different answer than the question of which settings I'd like to visit in an AP.
The thing that you are missing is that we "MAY" be creating FULL campaign setting in addition to doing the AP, that "MAY" connect directly to the end of AP. But as we stated in the beginning, we want to know which campaign setting people would like to see converted. Starting from that input, we can make more informed choices of what we might like to do. I think too many people are trying to figure out what out larger goal is without understand what our basic idea premise is as a business. To me its like the old joke of the three blind people describing an elephant they are touching.
Is this anything to do with Cross of Fire?
the David wrote:
No Planescape/Spelljammer, because the story is already about planethopping.
I would NOT count that out just yet...
Can Krynn be one of the worlds that isn't saved and goes up in a great, fiery kaboom?
Stop reading my notes...
C'mon Louis. Whatcha up to? ;P
OK here is something for you:
What if I told you in this Adventure Path there would be a campaign setting / world destroying power ACTUALLY destroying campaign setting / worlds and the PCs would travel to MANY different campaign setting / worlds to prevent this happening?
What if I told you some times the PCs will save the campaign setting / worlds and some time they will not be able to?
What if I told you the enemy you would be facing would be unlike ANY foe you have ever faced in AP for Pathfinder and only wants to cause the extinction of all that are not like themselves?
What if I told you the top 3PP have said they would be interested in helping on and taking part of this AP?
Now, would you be interested is what I am doing NOW?
But once again, what people infer and assume are on themselves. I asked a simple and straight forward question and that is what I wanted the answer to.
Yes I think this is standard procedure for 95% of the marketing in the world. Apple. Samsung. Marvel Comic. Adobe. Most blockbuter movies teaser trailers. Paizo AND WOTC too.
There will always be people who like one thing and an equal amount who hate it. I asked a simple question: What four (4) D&D campaign setting would you like to see converted for use in Pathfinder?
Now I have people looking into the MOTIVE of why I asked that question instead of actually answering the question. Better question would be is: Why are you so interested in what my future plans are?
-- END OF THREADJACK
Marc Radle wrote:
Not really sure what the point of this is, since probably none of the settings people are listing can actually be legally converted into a Pathfinder compatible product for sale ...
Don't you worry about that son. You sit back and watch how I will handle this. :-)
Pretty sure it's fishing for ideas of "what themes do people want more of".
Are you saying I am looking to cater to the Pathfinder fans base by giving them what they want in a campaign setting? That sounds crazy!
I don't think anyone thinks Louis is planning on actually converting these worlds specifically. But people saying "I want more Dark Sun" gives a pretty concise way of saying "I want more post-apocalyptic, harsh worlds with a heavy focus on survival with some psionic flavor and some things I'm certainly forgetting".
Are you trying to peak inside of my head? It is a scary place.
So you are saying you want more Birthright?
@Louis - are any of these actually possible/able to be converted by you legally, or are you just garnering intel on what people are into for your next Campaign Setting idea or product line release...
I am ALWAYS garnering intel, even when I am NOT garnering intel. :-)
"I am working on something for future release" is a little open-ended for me...
Don't worry, when I "close" it, I think you will be throwing money at your screen to get it. Big risks = big rewards!
Insain Dragoon wrote:
Yes there will be. There will be an option for All the PDFs; one for the All PDF and any/all rewards; one for the collected PDF in B&W and any/all rewards; And collected PDF in full color and any/all rewards. There are LOTS of different options for rewards.
The problem with giving you everything at once, is that we may NOT have everything ready to go. It is not us teasing you, it us actually giving you what we have, when we get it.
Zoe Oakeshott wrote:
I would suggest NeoExodus: A House Divided. He are some reasons why you might find it enjoyable.
1. NeoExodus is a world full of magic. NeoExodus is a world that has advanced by mastery of arcane magic which may be counterintuitive to the classic fantasy and medieval times. Magic is very pervasive in the world of NeoExodus from the instantaneous point-topoint travel via the Nexus Gateway to sentient, freewilled arcane constructs (called Arcane Intelligences). From arcane and eldritch powered skyships and siege weaponry to even commonplace magic casters using their skills to provide many basic provisions and necessities to major cities and even some small towns. The progressive nature of magic has transformed the world so that it feels quite “modern”.
2. NeoExodus is a world built upon epic adventures, heroic quests and valiant expeditions into the unknown. Through the use of magical and nonmagical means, heroic adventurers can gain access to larger realms of excitement and discoveries which in turn will introduce them to new and interesting challenges to confront and monsters to combat. From exotic locations to unusual surroundings, the challenges of Exodus should pull heroes across the lands of many nations and countries to the entire world. Each area of Exodus is unique and stunning from the tropical rain forest and jungle of the Wyldlands of Bal to the frigid and dangerous peaks in the mountains of Nas. Exodus is truly a world of invigorating exploration and exhilarating action.
3. NeoExodus is setting of unified empires and nations with their own sovereign rights, power and issues. While each nation or empire - Arman Protectorate, Caneus Empire, the Dominion and the Reis Confederacy - has joined and believes in the unity of the Imperial Alliance, old adversaries and bitter rivalries cause much turmoil in this world. Many of these nations and empires have had long term conflicts with each other that still influence the decisions of the modern day. Other influence groups like the Sanguine Covenant and Section Omega can be felt in the backrooms and dark alleys of any of these nations and empires. All of this in addition to such global threats as the Janus Horde, the Quicksilver Virus pandemic and even a criminal terrorist organization like the Folding Circle threatens to destabilize this fragile peace.
4. NeoExodus is a world that is rarely at peace for long. Throughout its troubled history, wars and murder were never far away. NeoExodus is always on the brink of war or conflict of some type. With so many different cultures and races working together, there are issues that often will be raised between them. These conflicts might be based on nationality, religious beliefs or even racial issues and these prejudices are deeply propagated in various arenas of daily life. The formation of the Imperial Allience has done much to help with the understanding of different points of views and now individuals find ways to exist and thrive in this world of Exodus.
5. NeoExodus mixes traditional fantasy, horror, magic, modern politics and science fiction. NeoExodus is built from a very distinctive nature and mind-set. The setting of NeoExodus: A House Divided is a mixture of classic fantasy, modern political conflict and intrigue with neo-fantasy influences. The world of Exodus has some degree of “moral flexibility” which makes people who might be diametrically opposed, able to work with each other for a greater cause - often for good and sometimes evil. In this world, nothing is black or white but various shades of grey - making nothing exactly what it seems to be. While an individual might have the alignment of chaotic evil, this does not mean they cannot be honorable or even compassionate, if needed for a larger reason. And vice versa.
6. NeoExodus is full of all new unique races. The nine new races that are introduced in the setting of NeoExodus are very unique in direct contrast to the standard fantasy races individuals might be used to. Each race has a unique and interesting creative background and design to them that reflect the setting of NeoExodus: A House Divided well. In NeoExodus players can choose to play Cavian, Cynean, Dalrean, Enuka, Gevet, Kalisan, Prymidian, P’Tan or Sasori. Cavians are psionic humanoid rats who have a hidden agenda. Cyneans are crystalline-skinned, powerful arcane spell casters with a thrist for more arcane knowledge. Dalreans are humanoid mobile plants with a strong ecological connection to Exodus. Enuka are beast-like creatures that have evolved to adapt themselves to various harsh environments. Gevet, or tiefling, claim to be the first race to master magic in Exodus. Kalisans are pale-white nomadic humanoid creatures native to northern Exodus. Prymidians are crimson-skinned humanoids who are masters of communication and language. P’Tans are shadowcreated feline humanoids who were former slaves of the First Ones. Sasori are humanoid scorpions that hold all the deepest and darkest secrets of Exodus.
7. Exodus is a world built on conspiracies, deceptions and intrigue. Empires and nations compete on many levels—economic, political influence, territory, magical power—each looking to maintain or improve its current status by any means short of all-out war. Subversive clandestine meetings, espionage, black market deals and sabotage are all basic parts of doing business in Exodus. Large numbers of organizations, nations and factions maneuver or manipulate for their own benefit in the rapidly changing political climate. Exodus teems with conflict and intrigue.
8. Everything has a place in NeoExodus. If it exists in the realm of classic or traditional fantasy settings of Pathfinder, then it has a place in Exodus. A monster or spell or magic item from the Pathfinder core rulebooks might feature a manipulation or two to explain attitude, character and tone of Exodus, but otherwise everything you want to include has a place somewhere in Exodus.
Hope this helps.
Of course you do! That is why you are reading this post.
For those that don’t know, LPJ Design is starting their next kickstarter called the Cross of Fire Saga at the end of September. One of the rewards that was created specifically for donors was that of offering the opportunity for donors to submit material for potential publication. When our KS reach 50 donors we will offer all Donors at $9 and up can Submit 2 Hazards for possible publication. At 60 Donors this increase to all Donors at $9 and up can Submit 2 Haunts for possible publication At 70 Donors, all Donors at $9 and up can Submit 2 Insanities for possible publication and this continues on until you can submit spells, feats and even VIP and Iconic NPCs.
So if you have always wanted to get published and you know you are a great potential game designer, take a short cut and sign up for the Cross of Fire Saga Kickstarter and get the publishing credit to help open doors in the incredibly competitive world of game design. Learn more about the upcoming Cross of Fire Saga Kickstarter here!
We have been quite for a while as we are working on moving this project along. It is good to know that it looks like we should be 80% with the adventure BEFORE this kickstarter actually starts in late September. The introduction adventure, Long Way Home (see cover here) written by Jeff Lee is going to be finished up this weekend. Plus if you have been following our blog, you know that we have release A LOT of artwork and behind the scenes stuff. So like I told you before save up you money because this kickstarter is going to be perfect for those who loved Obsidian Apocalypse and horror based adventure paths. In just one month, we are going to redefine what horror means in Pathfinder with this adventure path. Enjoy!
I think I might have to make a few call and think about some psitech that might work for Dreamscarred Press. I mean a psi-whip inspired from Image Comics Blacklash would be my starting point.
You might want to talk to Louis Porter Jr. about a certain AP Kickstarter on the horizon.
Horizon? Don't you mean that light at the end of the tunnel that is really a train coming toward you in the way of the Cross of Fire Saga Adventure Path Kickstarter?
If I were a writer for Dreamscarred (OR a 3PP publisher who has worked with them), I would have sent them a finished 5K word sourcebook with psi-equipment and items already completed and asked them to publish it and take a percentage of the sales as payment, assuring me a future position with the company.
You know, if I were a writer who wanted to work for Dreamscarred....
LPJ Design is planning to host their next Google Hangout Thursday August 7th at 9:30 PM EST. We will be covering all kinds of interesting topics, fascinating subject matter and we also will have a little “Ask Me Anything” session so you can feel free to ask me all the juicy questions you have wanted to know about LPJ Design, Louis Porter Jr. or being in the RPG industry in general. So get ready for an evening of excitement and exhilaration on August 7th with us! Following out link to learn more!
Any news about the bestiary or is Cross Of Fire eating all the time, resources, and competing projects?
Funny you should ask. Of course, we are still working on the Cross of Fire Saga material, but the winners of the 2nd the Bestiary of Armageddon Contest will find there monsters in a upcoming product release that you can expect to see sometime later this year. Patience pays off.
LPJ Design is planning to host their next Google Hangout Thursday August 7th at 9:30 PM EST. We will be covering all kind of interesting topics, fascinating subject matter and we also will have a little “Ask Me Anything” session so you can feel free to ask me all the juicy questions you have wanted to know about LPJ Design, Louis Porter Jr. or being in the RPG industry in general. So get ready for an evening of excitement and exhilaration on August 7th with us! Follow this link to attend the hangout!
When is the kickstarter going to be?
The plan is to have the kickstarter start in late September.
The reason for this is that we are right NOW working on the Cross of Fire Saga AP and plan to have the first draft writing completed BEFORE the kickstarter starts. While the kickstarter is going on, I am planning to do the layout and getting it ready to release. When the kickstarter is over and we have reached our goals, we will be able to release the completed Cross of Fire Saga AP with in a few weeks. There is a method to our madness.
Four Horsemen—Famine wrote:
I can not wait until the fans see what we have planned for them. Better still I hope they understand, that they might not make it out alive or at least without missing an appendage or two.
LPJr Design's "Cold Visitor" is a take on "The thing", just in case someone doesn't know the module - and yes, it happens in a cold demiplane to keep the setting intact...
Written by GoblinWorks own, Lee Hammock. If you live the movie The Thing you will love Cold Visitor.
Marc Radle wrote:
Simply put, hire a professional graphic designer to do your layout. Look at local colleges also for designers. A good designer can turn an OK looking product into a GREAT looking product which in turn will help your sales in the long run.