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I once had a villain who was actually a PC from a previous campaign. He was a tiefling who had been shunned by society first in cheliax, because tieflings are seen as a singn of weakness for their parents (a really cool piece of fluff in my eyes btw) and then in most other countries for the more obvius reasons.
The whole ordeal made him hate the concept of fate, wich lead to a "I have to become the most powerful so no one can decide my life." Once he had left behind most mortals, he realized that the gods still ruled his fate and that of everyone else.

So he went on and tried to create an atrificial starstone to simply make EVERYBODY into gods to even the playing field.

Since he figured that once he was a god, he could just fix everything he had broken, he followed this goal with ZERO caution or restraint.

Sadly the campaign never progressed to the point where the PCs would have been confronted with his reasoning.


As long as you end your turn in cover, you can remain in stealth, that is true.
I think the point of confusin here are the cover rules.

You are not automatically in cover, because you crouch next to a wall. Cover is determined relative to someone or something.

If you determine cover correctly, your players should have a much harder time always staying in stealth.

The thing you say under 4 is correct. As long as your players haven't made their perception rolls to know the position of all enemies, they have no way of knowing wether a certain position really is in cover from all enemies or not.

Also concerning the "just trying again" thing:

You make stealth rolls as part of movement. The moment you roll stealth, you already move.

So you can't just roll stealth until everybody rolls well and THEN move through the corridor. Everybody moves through the corridor and while they do so, stealth is rolled to find out how stealthy they are while doing so.

Of course they can walk back and try again, but how does that help them if the first roll was crappy and the enemies have already seen/heard them?


Good Option:

Distribute control over the summoned critters evenly among your players. That way, everybody gets something to do.

The only prerequisiite for that is that the stats are available to all players.

If the druid player complains about this, tell him that the other option is changing his character.


Seriously, I just handwave rolls based on the length of the Chase.
One roll to get started and one roll every time the conditions change to the worse (transition from soft to rocky ground, rain, Nightfall, whatever). Conditions improving obviously doesn't force a roll, and one to get "back on track" after a nights rest or any kind of major distraction like an encounter. If you feel like this is to easy, maybe make it a basic 4 checks/day with additional ones for unfavourable conditions.
Everything else just drives the Players and the GM insane. You're supposed to have fun, not sit around the table as laves to the rules, being extremely annoyed.

Also, I would give the ranger a penalty if he wants to track from horseback, like maybe 2 or 3 but then would allow him to use the horses half speed. If he does not want that penalty, he'll have to get off and use his own half speed.


it has a duration of 2 rounds at level 4, so it works for the round in which you cast it (from the moment you complete your standard action to cast it until it is your turn again) and THEN a second round, until it is your turn once again, at which point it ends directly BEFORE your turn.
So from my reading, it only damages at the beginning of the turn following the casting, bevause at the next trigger point "start of your turn" 2 rounds after casting, it is not in effect any more.


I once had a player who played a ranger with favoured enemy undead, who used to be a gravediggers apprentice when his village was overrun by the bbeg in a raid for fresh corpses. He hid until he was gone and the killed the remaining undead with his shovel.
Later he reshaped, reinforced and sharpened the shovel with the help of a blacksmith and I let him use the stats for a greataxe.

Lots of fun, he would go on the partys nerves endlessly by insisting on giving all slain enemies a proper burial, even those of large size and above.


You can cast as many as you want, but remember that you have to rediret them to a new target with a move action once the old target dies and you have only 2 move actions per turn (if you convert your standard to a move).

So either you plan tactically, so the enemies all die on different turns, or you will waste turns of your spell.

Also, they are only rounds/level, so keep in mind that your "flash mob" will not exist for long.

Other than that, you're golden.


First off, punctuation and proper formatting really helps to get people to answer you, because they don't have to read your post twice to figure out the question.

Second, nothing keeps you from using an evil spell anyway, as long as you're not a good druid, cleric or paladin. So even if casting this spell is an inherently evil act (which it shouldn't be in my eyes, but that is for your GM to decide), nothing keeps you from doing it.

By the rules, nothing says that the spell is modified in any way, so it keeps the [evil] descriptor.

Even IF casting spells with an evil descriptor is an evil act at your table, if you are playing a good character who doesn't sit on the brink of an alignment shift anyway, I think it woul be kind of a dick move to shift your alignment just because you draw some ki out of enemies whom you can totally punch to death without any alignment issues.


You say there are encampfments with siege weapons somewhere around?
Go take out one of these (those militia-guys seem to be a lot weaker) and then shoot the room in which the paladin etc hide to crap with the conquered siege weapons. (ideally they take damage from the roof collapse too)

Afterwards, attack them with the siege weapons from a distance that allows them only long range spells. Sooner or lateer, they will have to come to you which a) makes them leave the golem behind and b) has them walk through your fire for quite some time.

Also, send in some militia dudes with nerally zero hitpoints and a pleed effect, so the good guys will have to waste their healing to save them, only to then have the militia-guys die from a poison that you put in their system beforehand.

Send them in one by one, so the cleric can't just heal them all with a single channel.

If there is enough material around and you can reach both doors of the room, stack a lot of flammable stuff in front of it and ignite it, the heat and loss of oxygen will either take care of the cleric and paladin or force them to come out.


Concerning the feat:
"When the trap is activated, the effect is centered on whichever square the triggering creature first entered. If more than one square is entered simultaneously, choose at random."
So the trigger is expanded to 4 sqares, but the trap itself only affects the square that is entered first, after which the trap is triggered.

Concerning poison:
I don't think there are any rules for this, ask your GM.

Concerning the component:
I can not find any clarification on this, especially since it is in conflict with
"The ranger only needs simple materials to create the trap, such as a piece of cloth, a small amount of metal (such as a dagger, iron spike, or a few nails), a foot of rope or vine, and so on."

I would assume the scroll is only needed for the magical version, since EX abilities are not magical and I don't see any reason why one would need a magical component.

The question how in the world the ranger non-magically digs a 5 foot deep pit in just one round is best saved for another day...


Yes, except if the source says otherwise, like with magical knack.


In my games, a sorcerer could totally activate the wand without knowing what spell is stored inside, if the spell is on his spell list.
But honestly, who takes that gamble?


I would say one could base it off of the standard perception rules and take ten.
I would put a song either on the same or a bit below "soulds of battle", which is a -10. So conservatively speaking the volume of the song should warrant at least a -5.
So a creature could be affected by the song over a distance of (15+perception value)*10 ft.

Seems reasonable to me, since it's a limit that will not matter in most circumstances but it prevents extreme cheese.

For every point of negative modifyers based on the perception rules, like walls or background noise or whatever, the GM can just subtract 10 ft from the range.


Doesn't say anything about poison, so it isn't. It's the "strange material", whatever that may be, not some kind of poison ON the material.


I have always ruled yes, based on the fact that for example the sorcerer favoured class bonus gives free choice below the highest available level.

I don't have any rules quotes in this but I don't see any reason for disallowing it, neither crunch nor fluff wise.


Anything else aside, i would really advise you against using such a character at your table, except if everybody, and I mean EVERYBODY at the table really loves math and is good at it.
Do you really want to prep the hight and weight for every encounter? Do you want to have your player hold up the game for ages while he searches for the most beneficial equation?
PF changed power attack, because paople in 3.5 where using to much time in combat thinking about the best ratio to use it with and this is immensely more complicated...


Maybe explain what this class from FF does, so people who haven't played it have a chance to help too?


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So since there is no action necessary to "switch" a dagger from melee to throwing your argument is that the rogue threatens and therefor flanks until the exact moment of the attack, when in the time the dagger takes to fly from the hand to the target, the flank is suddenly gone and so is the sneak attack?

It seems to be the case based on the whole "flanking only ever applies to melee attacks, period" ruling, but I find it very weird and would definitely houserule it at my table.

Throwing weapons are weird.


You don't threaten and therefore can't flank with a ranged weapon, certain feats nonwithstanding.
But since the dagger is a melee weapon that CAN be thrown, this course of action is perfectly valid and mechanically even a good idea, assuming the rogue has a higher dex than str and no weapon finesse. She would provoke an AoO for each of the attacks 'though.

For a visual, watch this video starting around 1:07.


@ GM1990:

While I stand with you on the whole "dont sloww down the game with too much rolling", it might be important to figure out how much havoc the ox can wreak before the PCs kill him, so actually knowing what to roll for that is important. Players might feel cheated if stuff is just described without any option to interfere.

Also, AlterAgo was asking for specific DCs, so "just make one up that feels right" might not be the right answer here.

Last: +1 to attack from higher ground only works on melee, there is no bonus for ranged attacks.


Disclaimer: All my answers are based on using the official paizo perception modifyers for distance, which understandably, many people find to be stupid. (there are a ton of threads on the topic) In my own games I usually decrease the range penalty to +1 for every 20 ft of distance, instead of +1/10ft.

1a: If they are just getting ready, not moving heavy stones and such, the DC would be the bandits stealth roll +1 per 10 ft of distance. If they are still moving heavy stones around, I would consider giving the bandits a heavy (3-5) circumstance penalty on the stealth.

1b: for the falling rocks, you could just use as many of these traps here as you see fit, without the chance of a disable device roll of course.
The CR seems to more or less fit the APL, you can alwyas raise the Attack and/or damage a little, if you want them to be more dangerous.

I would also advise you to have the bandits trigger a bigger avalanche on the path in front of the group (behind the bull) so they can't just keep moving with the carts.

1c: Shooting from higher ground gives no bonuses to hit (as opposed to melee attacks from above) but the cover you mention should either be normal cover (+4ac, +2ref), if they use actual cover in addition to their elevated position or partial cover (+2ac +1 ref) if it's only the cover of their elevated position. Remember that whatever cover the Bandits get for high ground will also be available to the PCs, if the decide to press themselves up against the side of the mountain.

2a/b: Just a trample on the guards, yes. He doesn't want to attack them he just wants to keep running and they are in his way.

2c: since the drag/push weight of your ox is 9000 pounds, i think it would be reasonable to have it make an overrun, although i don't know what kind of CMD you would want to give to the cart. Maybe just an opposed strength check with the pony, giving the pony a bonus for the weight of the cart? If the ponies are not combat trained, remember that the drivers will have to make handle animal checks to keep them from panicking though.

2d: If the bandits are actually running behind the ox, they are not using stealth and therefore the DC should be 0 + 1 per 10 ft distance. I would just handwave that roll and have the PCs auto-succeed.
If the bandits are actually using stealth, which I would allow them to do on a rocky road with a charging ox as "cover", the same rules as in 1a apply.

3: How do those guys quickly run away? is there another path below the one the PCs are on? Why would the bandits plan to have stuff go over the side and why would they plan on running away right from the start? Do they expect to lose the fight? If yes, why do they attack?

3a: Same as before, if they use stealth (remember, reduced movement speed) stealth roll + distance, with a +5 circumstance bonus because the PCs are distracted. (per the rules, this would actually be a penalty for the PCs, but it's easyer to calculate this way around and the result is the same)
This is IF the PCs can even see the lower bandits. I would run it so that the pcs can't spot them as long as they are not in the squares on the edge of the path, and once they are, give them a roll with the +5

3b: picking up an Item is normally a move action, of which everybody gets 2 per round, so per RAW, the bandits would loot one clearly visible item from corpses or carts to their "inventory" every 3 seconds and spend the other move action of the round storing it on their person. If they need to open containers or otherwise have restricted access, make that process slower, if they have things like big sacks in which they can just drop the loot instead of storing it (free action), make it 2 items per round.

If the fight doesn't last exceptionally long, don't expect those guys to get away with much. I would actually advise you to have the bandits use those people in the attack too and then expect to just loot afterwards, except if the looters are not fit for combat.

4: If the flying observer doesn't a) have hide in plain sight or b) is flying high enough to use clouds as cover, he doesn't get to make stealth checks while flying up there, so the DC would be once again 0 + distance. (per the rules, the size of the observer does not come into play here, only if he makes a stealth check. Since I find it idiotic that a gargantuan dragon chilling by the lake would be spotted exaclty as easily as the pixie besides him, as long as non of both try to use stealth, I usually include the size modifyers to stealth in a roll like this too, which would be a +4 for the PCs in this case. This is a houserule 'though)
Since the rules only give a DC to "notice a visible creature" which is only seeing that there is SOMETHING, I would put the DC to realize it is not a bird a little higher, maybe 2 or 3 points, since it should be pretty obious that the shape of the observer is not birdlike (no wings)

Since those rules apply to the observer too , I would have him keep a distance that allows him to see the caravan based on distance modifyers. If he only occasionally wants to check in on them and the path they are going to take is relatively clear, have him keep a distance that allows him to make the check to spot them on something like a 18 (distance in ft = (18 + perception modifyer of the observer)*10, or *20 if you use my houserule from the initial disclaimer). If he wants to keep them in good view, put him on a distance that allows him to take 10 on his perception check.

If you use my houserule that includes the size penalties into normal spot checks, you of course have to apply it to the caravan too, granting the observer a pretty big bonus, since a caravan made of multiple carts including ponies and the PCs should probably be gargantuan (+12 on the check to notice it)

Have fun with your session and remember: don't spend too much time in the session claculating DCs, rather guesstimate them on the fly, the average players fun will be diminished much more by a 2 minute pause in combat to calculate stuff than by a perception DC that was 2 or 3 points off.


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I try to avoid Save or die and save or suck spells like dominate and word of death and the like, as long as the players didn't at least have the chance to find out what they would be facing.
Nothing less fun than losing a character to a single failed save.


Yes, DM_Blake, that is one of the consequences of this. But luckily (most of) the elven parents tend have a lot more patience too. When you have the time to spend a year contemplating a poem, that puts things into perspective.
At the same time they are not uber-wise mary sues. They tend to get confused with the shortlived races and their quickness in everything and make really bad improvisers.
My elves have a bit of an LotR-Ent-vibe to them, pondering every decision for days and weeks.
Luckily I have never had a player who wanted to play a full elven character, because that would probably create problems with the other PCs.


In my golarion, and I think this is even canon, their Minds just work differently, they mature way more slowly, their whole society has no emphasis on teaching things quickly.

Kind of like a mouse is "grown up" way faster than a human.


Also the medium elementals you get with SM4 is CR 3 and the aerial servant is CR 11, how would this ever be balanced?

The CR equivalent of the aeerial servant would be the Elder elemental, which is summoned via SM8. At that point, it would be something you could ask your GM to houserule, but by RAW it still doesn't work.


You could get Spectral Hand as a x times per day-item or as a wand, but that only works on medium range and I assume she would be further away.


The unchained rogue is definitely better in combat, but still not good enough to be game breaking. Since he's probably kind of frustrated with the combat capabilities of his current rogue, by all means, let him do it.


@ JAMRenaissance: As of now, they are the only "good" party after the artifact, since the synthesist is, for reasons to complicated to explain, the only one who can carry it without suffering the negative levels (he can not access the power of the artifact either). But I might put in a rival "evil" party, maybe some other worshippers of Zon-Kothun who want the favour of their god for themselves. :)

@ thekpw: thanks for the input, I will probably be using a slight variation on this, since the "bad guys" are not far enough ahead of the PCs to use your suggestion completely, but the "camp of neutral primitives" is definitely going to happen thanks. :)
(Also, yes, I should totally come up with a better name for the Artifact ^^)

@ Bunnyboy: yes, tying some "random encounters" together by having them triggered/set up by a 3rd party is a good idea and gives them a little more depth. I will probably just include the cave in into this.

@ Yossarin: Their target is the first of a series of serpentfolk ruins that they will have to visit. As I wrote, one of the PCs is a Psion. The player begged me, until I allowed him to play one, but since in my version of Golarion there are no psionics (or at least haven't been so far), he has actually been transported to Golarion from Abeir Toril, where everything D&D/Pathfinder the player has played so far took place.
When he arrived on Golarion, he popped out of one of the gates of the Elfgate network, which has been expanded, made more secret and changed to function on a psionic basis (which no one really understands anymore) for the purpose of the campaign.
Now he is trying to find a way back home and has come into the possession of a journal written by Candlaron the Sculptor, the creator of the gates who was the only Psion in Golarion they now of so far. Most of the journal is encoded and the little bit of it that is readable, sent them on their way to their destination. Candlaron did this, because he wants other people after him to learn about psionics (which he did in the old serpentfolk ruins) but he doesn't want to withhold the thrill of the discovery from them, so he has set up a kind of scavenger hunt that leads the reader along the path of his journey, so they can make the discoveries themselves.


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I don't have many Ideas at the moment, this is more of a shameless attempt to get you guys to give me yours.

1. Encountering/having to deal with a tribe of Morlocks or other denizens of the deep, who regularly sacrifice slaves/prisoners to their Lake-God that is actually a Living Lake

2. A cave that contains the old but deadly Remorhaz plus Brown Mold - combination

3. Encounter a group of Darkfolk slavers with a broken wagon/in front of a cave in/some other form of travel impedement and be forced to decide wether to ignore them, try to free the slaves or help them for a reward (preferably information or something else that can't be taken of their dead bodies if the players decide to attack)


Thanks Bunnyboy, stuff like this is what I'm looking for.


First of all, thanks for the reply.

Sadly I am well aware of the fact that I can reskin things and that skill challenges are an option, I just can't seem to come up with interesting ones. This is why I explicitly ask for input on those.

I know that the wilderness is dangerous and that is how I want it to be, but what I'm asking for is input on specific Ideas as to what kind of skill challenges etc I should throw at the players.

I want to avoid making this whole thing a "roll survival to find path, roll survival to spot danger, roll climb to avoid it, roll perception to notice bad guys, roll initiative..."-dicefest.

Climbing, difficult terrain, natural hazards, monster encounters, these are all things I am aware of. What I am searching for are things that are not only challenging in a mechanical way, but also interesting for the Players.

I don't want to bore my players by GMing the Frodo&Sam chapters of the 2nd book of LotR...


Hello everyone

I need some input on possible ways to continue my campaign.
Since I am rather stressed out with non-roleplay-related stuff at the moment, I haven't found time to do much prepwork lately, which means, my players have more or less caught up to the status quo of my notes last session. We will be playing again on Friday and I have a vague Idea on what I want to accomplish in the following sessions, but I can't come up with a way to do it and I fear, I am kind of blocking myself by worrying about it.

I would greatly appreciate your input for the sake of my players' fun and my sanity.

Now for the situation I need advice on:
My players (A level 7 TN Shaper-Psion (essentially a caster focused on summoning constructs and creating all kinds of stuff from ectoplasm) and a level 7 CG Synthesist (combat focused, demon-like eidolon), together with 4 level 5 and 6 Monk NSCs (controlled by the players in battle, by me outside of it) will be entering the darklands next session. They will do so through the entrance in Highhelm in the Five Kings Mountains. In my Golarion, the dwarves (being LN) allow trade with the darklands through the outer city (at a price), as long as isn't slave trade (mainly due to not wanting to anger their good neighbouring countries). Foreigners aren't allowed inside the inner city without a good reasen.

The journey is suppposed to take up about 2-3 Sessions, before they arrive in a cavern in Sekamina below Lastwall.
I know what awaits them there, but I don't want the trip to be to easy, since the characters have (rightfully) been making a big deal out of entering the darklands and are preparing for all kinds of dangers.

They have a magical device that points them into the direction of their target, but otherwise have no knowledge about the nature of the path there.

What I need now, are some interesting encounters and problems for the way. Some of them can simply be "random" encounters, but I don't want to sit there and just throw monsters at my players until the journey has been "hard" enough.

What I'm looking for are challenges that have to be solved by creative use of skills and Magic or by roleplaying.

They will most probably hire some kind of guide, so getting lost is not really an option, also I find that rather boring.

Additionally, the Synthesist is, unbeknownst to the others, trying to find an evil Artifact of Zon-Kothun that has been stolen from a Shellyn-monastery where it had been kept safe.
The only things he knows about the artifact are, that it looks like a rusty knife and it grants the the bearer enormous power, but quickly kills him. He has been told to "follow the trail of corpses".

(It can't be put down once it has been touched and the bearer needs to make a dc 20 fort save every day or gain a permanent negative level.) The bad guy who stole it is using a horde of weak minions/slaves to transport it, who, due to their low HD and saves, die about every other day. One of them will have died in Highhelm.

Now I need a situation in which the player can a) find the corpse or information about it and b)somehow be able to follow the group of bad guys based on it. (their route more or less concides with the direction the party is travelling in)
I had thought about there being some kind of dwarven police force who, upon finding the (supernaturally aged and warped) corpse, used speak with dead to find out more about it and from whom he can obtain the information (he is very charming and knows the value of a good bribe), but I am open to better suggestions.

Thanks to everyone who managed to read through my wall of text and tnanks in advance for all input.


I don't see any reason why this would not work.
Except maybe those people arguing that splash weapons are not really weapons, but i never really agreed with those.


Simple logic for the poison:
The poison is not magical, but a physical substance.
If it is a physical substance and was summoned together with the monster, it is either a part of the monsters body or part of its gear.

Both of those vanish once the spell ends.

Rather simple in my eyes.


This is actually an amusing spam post for a change. :-D


A few mechanical questions/difficulties:

Your 3rd level power doesn't say what kind of action it is and your 9th level one doesn't state the action AND doesn't clarify at what point in the round you need to state that you are going to use it.
Also, what's with the "Dispel Magic (Counterspell only)"? There are no precedents in the system for learning only part of a spell. What if the sorc wants to learn dispel magic as a normal spell? Does it still cost a full spell known?


@ Pizza Lord (Jim Butcher reference, by the way?)

I would of course rule something like that at my table, because everything else makes very little sense, but at the moment I'm looking for RAW, that I might not know about, not for GM common sense. ;)


As far as I know, it doesn't, because it doesn't say so anywhere in the creatures profile, but in the text for durable arrows, we find the following:

Durable Arrow wrote:
Durable arrows can be broken in other ways (such as deliberate snapping, hitting a fire elemental, and so on).

Of course, if you hit a fire elemental with any normal arrow, it breaks, because that's, what ammunition does, when it hits.

But the one and only function of durable arrows is to NOT break on impact.

Is this a holdover from some older edition or something?


Tinalles wrote:


...

Similarly, she can lay down battlefield control spells like Black Tentacles without breaking invisibility.

...

This is not true.

Any non-harmless spell that includes an enemy in it's area of effect counts as an attack for the purpose of breaking invisibility.


Look at the conversion of the 3.5 warlock, he can use all of his invocations an unlimited amount of times as SLAs.
Not entirely balanced in my eyes, but probably as close as you're going to get.


Yep, no need to enlarge the summoner first, you can technically play a gnome and put him into a huge eidolon, no problem.


What Graystone said.
Why does he even want to dismiss the shrink item AFTER firing the Bolt?
It doesn't say anywhere that he has to use a bolt that is properly sized for him.
Either he is allowed to carry gigantic bolts and do the appropriate damage with them, or he can craft hundreds of toothpick-sized arrows and still do 1d8 with them. And a rune giant casting it on the toothpics would do 4d6...

If he is willing to invest the magic ressources to shrink the bolts for transport and the standard actions to unshrink them before casting the spell, OR invest in a means of transport to carry them around, I would be totally fine.

As far as the whole unshrink-on-impact-thing goes, I'm in the camp that says the unshrinking happens AFTER impact, therefore having no effect on the damage, regardless whether it is calculated via the weapon or the ammunition.


I'd still ask your GM about a houserule for the hackbutt, but culverin is good too.
An option regarding the range is the farreaching sight. Using it limits you to one shot per round, but since you are targeting touch AC, you can start sniping away at your enemies from quite a distance.


Well, you are definitely in houserule territory, since the interaction between immovable rod and bigger firearms isn't described anywhere in RAW.
I as a GM would allow you to build a swivel mount that is attached to the immovable rod instead of a carriage. Maybe I would request a knowledge (engineering) check or have you pay some extra gold for a specialist who does it for you. 5000 and the skill investment in engineering are a good price to pay for saving that one standard action.

Especially since, if you go only by RAW (which I strongly discourage), nothig says you can't just assemble the carriage once and never disassemble it, lest you run into some stairs.

Common sense of course dictates that you can not drive that thing though Sand or underbrush without being slowed significantly, but since the description of the weapon doesn't mention anything about movement speed penalties or being impossible to use in difficult terrain, TECHNICALLY there is nothing that says you have to take that full round action in the first round of combat.

So I would say the immovable rod is a solution everybody should be able to live with.


I think one of the most common suggestions to this kind of thing is to attach the cannon to an immovable rod.


Yea, if you really want to minmax, making your character venerable is the way to go.
But be careful, depending on which level you start on, you will need some time to get your Eidolon ready.

Starting at 4th level you can cast "summon eidolon" to get it out as a standard action, but then it is vulunerable to dispel magic in addition to banishment etc.

If you take the right race, you can reduce the "casting time" of your normal summoning ritual by one round as a favoured class bonus, effectively making it a full action at level 9.

But excluding those two, you will be incredibly squishy in case of an attack at night or if you fail your save against a sleep spell or something similar.

Depending on the way your gm plays, the added mental scores could be worth the risk, but i advise against it.


You can use all Feats of your character in fused form, as long as he is still eligible. (which should be the case for 99% of them, because none of your stats go down in fused form if you didn't build a REALLY weird character. So if you char has the martial prof, you keep it in fused form.

All of your Eidolons Natural attacks are clearly marked as primary or secondary in their respective evolution text, so as long as you don't use weapons, that is no problem.

Once you use a weapon, according to the beastiary, all your primary natural attacks you use in that round become secondary and suffer the appropriate penalties to hit and damage.

Also, additional advice: The feats Arcane Strike and Augment summoning are incredibly great for a synthesist, since you rarely have any other uses for your swift actions and augment summoning applies to your eidolon, giving it a huge boost.


"At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell."

Emphasis mine. I don't think it gets any clearer than that. Spell strike + spell combat + touch spell = free attack.


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Steal/sunder his holy symbol in the surprise round and get rid of any spares he might have beforehand.


Another intersting questin that will probably come up in my game:

Is Line of sight (through a closed window for example) enough to summon the eidolon to a place or is line of effect needed?

My players will come up on a cave where the back part is collapsed but they can look through tiny spaces in the rubble to the other side. Could the summoner dismiss her eidolon and re-summon it on the other side for scouting purposes?

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