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Awesome. I wasn't sure if the Arcane Gun stuff would stack with Ranged Spellstrike or not, since they seemed like they may be two distinct actions.


Spellslinger

Eldritch Archer

Say I am a Spellslinger 1/ Eldritch Archer 7 with a +1 gun, and I use Spell Combat and Ranged Spellstrike to cast Gloomblind Bolts at a foe, shoot one of my bolts through my gun, and I roll a natural 20 and confirm the crit.

Does my +1 gun give a +1 to the save DC?

Does the bolt have a x2 crit, like Eldritch Archer says, or x3, like Spellslinger says?


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Ravingdork wrote:
3) PLAY STYLE: Spontaneous action declarations; essentially trying to do something cool and thematic that isn't immediately covered in the rules. Things like "I attempt to flatten the charging group of enemies by flipping the bar table on top of them" or "I take out my grappling hook and attempt to snag the flying peryton's antlers so I can pull it out of the sky." Such declarations are invariably followed by multiple complicated nigh-impossible checks from the GM, inevitably results in failure, and then gets me blasted by the other players with responses like "you can't trip multiple people at once" or "why didn't you just shoot the peryton with your arrows instead of acting like a moron?" Far too many people have the "just kill it" mentality and they miss out on a lot of roleplaying fun as a result. What's more, when faced with unusual requests, many GMs go overboard with their rules (decreasing the odds anyone else will try anything similarly fun or exciting ever again) or just plain shut it down.

The tough part about the players doing wacky stuff (at least for me) is that I want to let them do it because it's awesome, but if it's too effective the really awesome one time thing will become just another standard tactic. You let them knock over a table to flatten a charging bunch of goons and it works amazingly well, they'll want to do that every time there's a table nearby. Or, even worse, they'll start carrying around a table for the express purpose of flipping it at people.


How necessary is Horror Adventures to running this AP?

If it's not necessary, how useful would it be?


The vitalist begins with the Collective Healing ability:

Vitalist wrote:

Whenever a willing member of the vitalist's collective could regain lost hit points or ability damage, the vitalist may choose to redirect any or all of that healing to one or more other willing members of the collective as a free action. This can transfer instantaneous healing (such as a body adjustment power), healing from ongoing healing effects, such as fast healing, and even hit points gained from rest (in which case, a member of the collective would rest for a period of time as normal, and the amount of hit points and ability damage healed would go to another).

In any case, the original recipient of the healing effect chooses whether to allow the diverted healing, and does not gain the benefits of any healing he grants to another. The type of healing (positive energy, negative energy, construct repair, etc.) is unchanged from the original source for determining who or what can be healed.

Example: Darius the soulknife is a willing member of Jorus the vitalist's collective. He drinks a potion of cure light wounds that would normally heal him for 6 hit points, but Jorus decides to redirect 4 of those points to himself. Darius agrees and, as a result, Darius is healed for 2 hit points, and Jorus is healed for 4. If there were more members in Jorus's collective, Jorus could spread the healing from that potion out even more as long as the sum of hit points healed was no greater than 6.

A vitalist may even heal wounds through collective healing if at full health. This may only be used with healing effects such as potions, powers, or other such effects. [Healing] from long term care or natural healing cannot be transferred in this way.

Say that I am missing 4 hit points and get a Cure Light Wounds cast on me that rolls 8 hit points worth of healing. Can I send the extra 4 hit points to another party member?


Spellstrike is not a part of Spell Combat. It modifies the touch spell rules, allowing you to stab someone with Shocking Grasp instead of slapping them with it.

You still need to make Concentration checks to cast in melee, but casting Shocking Grasp as a Standard outside of threatened range, walking up to a foe as a Move, then hitting them with your longsword as a Free in place of the usual touch attack is legit.


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Spell Combat says:

prd wrote:
As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty).
Then the section Touch Spells in Combat from the Combat chapter says:
prd wrote:
In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action.
And, finally, Spellstrike says
prd wrote:
Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell.

So, in summary:

Spell Combat lets you cast any standard action spell during a full attack.
When you cast a Touch spell, you get to make a touch attack as a free action.
When you make your free touch attack, Spellstrike allows you to use your weapon instead of a regular touch.

Putting these rules together, this happens:
I use Spell Combat and cast Shocking Grasp. The rules on touch spells let me touch somebody with Shocking Grasp as a free action, since I just cast a touch spell. I then use Spellstrike to whack them with my sword instead of just touching them.

EDIT: And/or read what KingOfAnything posted. :P


The Spiritualist's Devoted Servant Ability for the Dedication Emotional Focus reads thus:

PRD wrote:
Devoted Servant (Su): When the spiritualist reaches 12th level and is caught unawares by an attack (such as an attack made in a surprise round or while the spiritualist is asleep or an attack by a creature using Stealth), if the phantom is not fully manifested, it automatically fully manifests from the spiritualist's consciousness to protect its master. The phantom stays manifested as long as the spiritualist is unaware and in danger. This ability requires no action from the spiritualist.

The way I'm reading it is that if the Spiritualist is walking around without the Phantom summoned and gets jumped by enemies, the Phantom will manifest itself for the Surprise Round and then dismiss itself as soon as combat proper starts. Or, for another example, that if the Spiritualist gets attacked while asleep the Phantom manifests so long as she's asleep but disappears as soon as she wakes up.

I just wanted to double check with the community before I rule one way or the other on this for my player if I'm reading it correctly.

On a related note, if the effect is that the Phantom dismisses itself as soon as the Spiritualist wakes up or starts getting regular combat turns, would houseruling it so that it doesn't dismiss itself upset some balance with the class I'm unaware of? I haven't yet played with the Spiritualist in a game so I don't know how big of a deal that would be.


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Just played the tutorial adventure, liking it a lot so far. Keep getting disconnected and reconnected to the PlayFab while playing though.

Not sure if it's my internet being awful or something weird with the game.

I've also tried just running off my 4G, because that's way faster, but it has the same issue. :/


I want to get my hands on this game, but I don't have a tablet, only a phone. Will this game work fine on my Android phone or will I need to borrow a family member's tablet to play?


I've been GMing for a couple years, but I've only just started bugging my players for in-depth goals and the like and am really attempting to incorporate them into the story. Having never run a game that's primarily driven by the *player's* stories (been mostly running APs for the past few years), what I'm wondering is, when you design these sorts of campaigns, how do you let the players progress their personal stories without resolving them too quickly?

For example, one of my players wants to find and kill the man who killed his father. How do you suggest letting the player progress that story in a meaningful way without essentially having just one adventure where the bad guy is located and another adventure where they kill him?
Or the one who's being hunted by a certain villain, after I have the villain send some goons to attack the player how do I make the resulting story more complex than "Interrogate goons, go to villain's hideout, stab villain"?

I'm asking because it seems like, if I let the goals be resolved this quickly and easily, the resolutions will be somewhat anticlimactic but I can't think of how to logically extend the resolution process beyond maybe 1-2 sessions.

Thanks a bunch.


Gevurah wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Whenever you have a magical item, unless otherwise specified it's assumed to have the lowest possible requirements to have made the item.

CampinCarl9127, I do believe I had heard this before but I don't recall where in the book exactly. I would greatly appreciate it if either of you could provide a quote from the book.

Also, I'm assuming you agree with Wonderstell on whether the hat works just like the spell, correct?

Thanks!

The DC formula is described in the Magic Items section, under "Saving Throws Against Magic Item Powers".

Magic Item DCs wrote:
Magic items produce spells or spell-like effects. For a saving throw against a spell or spell-like effect from a magic item, the DC is 10 + the level of the spell or effect + the ability modifier of the minimum ability score needed to cast that level of spell.


Hello, all. I have a few of the Pathfinder Pawns boxes, and they're great. So good, in fact, that I would love to have something similar for modern and sci-fi games. Does anybody know of a similar product for those genres?


My Self wrote:
Trigger Loaded wrote:
The DC20 Fort save is to avoid getting addicted... (To be fair, it also provides 1D8 temporary hit points and a +2 to Fortitude saves.)
Wait, so taking Opium makes you more resistant to getting addicted Opium?

Depending on how the Con Damage ends up it might even out.

But usually? Yes.


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Steve Geddes wrote:
Insain Dragoon wrote:

This is a great example of what James Jacobs said about everyone playing the game differently.

We don't agree on much, so I'll just say this.

We both seem to agree that in terms of narrative power a certain subset of classes is dominant assuming equally skilled players.

I think this is a bad thing since I believe the game was advertized as an equal opportunity hero/villain simulator.

You don't think this is a bad thing since it meshes with your views that casters should have more power than non-casters.

Is this mostly correct?

Yeah, pretty much (except I also agree with you that if there is a martial-caster disparity, it shouldn't be advertised as a game where all classes are equally powerful - I just havent noticed that sort of advertising).

I think the main way it "advertises" that is by claiming that a 12th level Fighter and a 12th level Wizard have the same CR if the party fights them. Nothing as overt as having a bullet point on the back of the book that says "All classes are really well balanced!" :P


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It's okay.

I prefer FantasyCraft and 13th Age for my d20 Fantasy, but I think they're both a bit too abstracted for my main group's preferences.


So long as the weapon is one-handed the wizard can cast just fine.

If it's two handed, you can Free Action to take your hand off, cast the spell, the Free Action to put it back on. Assuming you aren't casting any 1-Round casting time spells or spells outside your turn.

Also note that, while many GMs would be fine with the latter option, some may look at you funny. So be warned.


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The conditions line is referring to things like Blind, Confused, and so on, not whether it will punch people on command. Punching people when told isn't a Condition.


I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.

Heighten Spell increases the level of the Mount for "All effects dependent on spell level", and Alter Summoned Monster just requires you to target a monster created via a Conjuration (Summoning) spell, which Mount is. It then changes the Mount to a monster summonable if you had cast a same-level Summon Monster spell, which Mount is now considered to be.


You would get three attacks. Rapid Shot and the Double Weapon give you one extra attack at your highest BAB.

So you'd go +6(BAB)/+6(Rapid Shot)/+1(BAB).

Keeping in mind that Rapid Shot and using the extra attack from the Double Weapon give a penalty to all of your attacks that I didn't account for above (I was only listing the BAB you'd have, no other modifiers).


Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
The biggest issue I have is how some people seem to assume that all character options must be equally powerful. If the game is designed to have imbalances, it really is a feature, not a bug.

I certainly agree. Assuming that the game states upfront that it's designed to be imbalanced. For example, Pathfinder claims to be balanced but it's often very unbalanced (or at least makes no attempt to inform you that it isn't balanced). Ars Magica, on the other hand, is very unbalanced and tells you right at the beginning of character creation that it's not balanced.


Thanks! I think I can picture in my head how to draw that now. Having it rephrased like you did made it click in my brain for some reason.


I have a question regarding one of the abilities the Draconic Exemplar gets and I wasn't sure where exactly to ask it, so I figured here would work.

The Sweeping Breath Draconic Gift says that the user can "cause a cone-shaped breath weapon to affect a half-circle with the same range." How do you calculate a "half-circle"?


TheRavyn wrote:
Johnico wrote:
TheRavyn wrote:
Dustin Ashe wrote:

On second thought, as soon as my Jade Regent campaign wraps, I'm switching to 5e rules but staying with Pathfinder APs. I'll start Rise of the Runelords next.

Why not have the best of both worlds?

You're gonna like it. Converting RotRL to 5E is a breeze and we're having a blast. We just wrapped book 4 last week, and are now officially entering "high level" 5E.
Just curious, when did you start running Runelords in 5e? I feel like I saw you mention it earlier in the thread (or maybe that was Kthulhu? Darned people having the same avatars :P), but that's a lot of pages to go back through and find that specific post. :P

I want to say late November, early December. So roughly six months now. We play only 1-2 times a month for about 8 hours per session. 5E combat is so much faster than PF's we really chew through the dungeons pretty fast. I'm thinking another 4-5 sessions to finish the AP, unless things get a lot more complicated than they have been so far.

By the end, the party should be about 15th level, so I'm working on some homebrew stuff to take them the rest of the way to 20th (and possibly beyond). There's six more Runelords out there, after all. And a pretty cool test of a certain sort awaiting them in Absolom :)

So, about the same frequency of play (in terms of raw hours), but you guys are likely to finish it in something like half the time. Wow. 5e, you're starting to tempt me.

One more question, what would you say is the ratio of goofing off RP vs. progressing through the story for you guys, in terms of time? You've got me curious now.


When someone triggers and Attack of Opportunity, you only attack with one of your weapons.

Attacking with both weapons is always a Full Round Action (barring certain classes/class features that make it so it isn't).

As for why anyone would fight with two weapons? Because it sounds cool and there are a few builds that can make it pretty solid. Sadly, those builds are few and hard to do.


TheRavyn wrote:
Dustin Ashe wrote:

On second thought, as soon as my Jade Regent campaign wraps, I'm switching to 5e rules but staying with Pathfinder APs. I'll start Rise of the Runelords next.

Why not have the best of both worlds?

You're gonna like it. Converting RotRL to 5E is a breeze and we're having a blast. We just wrapped book 4 last week, and are now officially entering "high level" 5E.

Just curious, when did you start running Runelords in 5e? I feel like I saw you mention it earlier in the thread (or maybe that was Kthulhu? Darned people having the same avatars :P), but that's a lot of pages to go back through and find that specific post. :P


13th Age did something interesting with racial Ability Score Modifiers. Every race provides a *choice* between which of two stats you get a +2 in, with no negative. Then, your *class* provides a choice between two stats to get a +2 in, that can't be the same score as your race improved. Makes it so it's a bit easier to pick an unorthodox race for a class, because your class will give you a bit of a bonus to help you out anyway.


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pauljathome wrote:
Keep it fun. Try hard to read the table to see what THAT table thinks is fun.

And even more importantly, if you can't read the table, ask them directly.


It's the former, 15/15/10/5. The combat rules state that attacks occur in BAB order, and nothing in Rapid Shot contradicts that.


You could probably use Mutants & Masterminds. It's a great system for super heroes.

I personally wouldn't recommend GURPS for most super hero gaming. It tries too hard to be realistic to feel like super heroes, IMO.


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It may have been the intent to cover foci, but the RAW says it doesn't.

It's not being overly literal to interpret "material components" to only mean material components. It is a distinct game term from focus, after all.


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The Saltmarsh 6 wrote:

And so another nail is driven into the coffin of gaming

You can not and should not be able to control some aspects of gaming just like in life

If some people on the internet not playing your way is enough to be considered a nail through the coffin of gaming, I don't know what to say.

This argument of "there are things you can't control in life, so you should just deal with it" is patently ridiculous, but I keep hearing it. I don't care if I can't control stuff in life. I'm playing a game (and not the Game of Life :P). I don't want my Barbarian to be permanently crippled in what I expected him to be able to do because of one or two or three bad rolls.

Stuff happening to kill my Barbarian in the course of the game? Fine. Being useless as a frontliner because I happened to roll a 1 on just a couple die rolls? Not fine.

I'm not saying you have to take the average or whatever. Keep rolling hit points if that's what you find fun. :)

But don't pretend I'm somehow a lesser gamer because I think this particular mechanic is bad.


I can't say I'm mad about being wrong this time. Always thought the Armor Spike thing was silly, and ignore it anyway.


So, basically, your method of preventing spellcasters from stealing the spotlight is to just tell them "nope, doesn't work" with no rhyme or reason?


Is there any idea when this'll be back in stock?


Close. The feat says that you use the chosen skill for the check to create the item. Therefore, you don't need spellcraft.

However, you are correct that the DC of the craft check increases by 5 for each spell you don't have.


D&D and Pathfinder being pretty high on the system complexity scale, finding things that are simpler should be fairly simple.

For anime, I really like Big Eyes, Small Mouth a generic system designed to have an anime feel. Haven't had much chance to play it, but I quite enjoy it. It's also got a lot of optional side-bars and rules to slide the complexity and grittiness up and down.

I've also heard good things about Ironclaw for furry type stuff. Haven't read it myself, however.


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Well, if it is just a straight nerf, we just don't use it. We've already got the good Barbarian, after all.


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Ayanzo wrote:
Kot the Protector wrote:
They did try to break down the door to the processor and ended up being attacked by the orcs, dark stalker, ettin, and Kulgara while they were all confined to the tiny hallway.

"Got Rouge?"

A well balanced party is the key to success :)

How will make-up help them survive the dungeon? :P


Bob^3 covered your poison question well, so I'll just answer the treasure one.

You are correct on all your numbers (CR3 at medium advancement = 800 gp, incidental halves it and makes it 400).

The gp value you're left with is the total gold for the whole party, not per person. Just remember to throw the occasional high treasure encounter at the party to compensate for the low treasure fights.

Let the players divvy up the cash as they see fit. If they're like most groups I've seen, they'll give everyone an equal share of the cash and hand magic swag to whoever needs it most.


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I think Daneel was just bringing up Staggered since the GM used the fact that Staggered specifically says you can still take Swift/Free actions while being restricted to a single Move or Standard meant that Nauseated does not allow Swift/Free actions, since it similarly restricts your actions but doesn't include the language allowing Swift/Free actions.

As the others have said, by RAW, Move actions are it. No Swifts, Frees, or whatever else.


Secret Wizard wrote:
Remember, it says nothing about REDUCING the time needed to take a 20, which takes two minutes for Knowledge checks.

Not necessarily. Making a Knowledge is listed as not taking an action, meaning it takes no time. So, wouldn't taking 20 on something that requires no action take no time (since 20 * 0 is still 0)?


ryric wrote:
We let players take 10 on Spellcraft checks to ID items. It means the caster can just tell the GM "I get everything CL X and below" and we get on with the game. Experimentation to ID items could occasionally be fun but too often devolved into a checklist of common silly things to check. I'm not sad to see it go just like describing exactly how you search the room.

This isn't even something players need to be "let" to do. They can just do it. :)

In my game, I usually just assume that the highest spellcraft character takes 10, everybody else who can aids, then I tell them everything they identify with that spellcraft number, which is most things. The players then decide for the following days how they're going to try and identify the items.

Telling them "you identify all the swag except this one thing" usually gets them a little more interested in that one thing and learning what it is.


The ways I've seen it done (other than just taking average or average+2, that still involve rolling):

Player rolls and the GM secretly rolls. The player decides between what they know they got and whatever the GM may have got.

Roll normally. If you roll under average, roll again. Keep whichever of the two is higher.

I prefer the average or average+number methods, personally.


Look at Iron Body again. It says "you also become vulnerable to all special attacks that affect iron golems."

Negating Slow and getting healed, being positive things, doesn't sound like something one can be vulnerable to, nor attacks.


I can't agree that there's much wiggle room on that thing (whether it works), but I can see where you do.

I can agree that it shouldn't work. Because the GM should never say "okay, so a month passes" and then the Wizard does the Finger Pyramid of Evil and mutters "Eeeexcellent." :P


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Except that this literal reading of explosive runes doesn't work (the dispel magic thing). There's nothing in that sentence that says Greater Dispel Magic doesn't work, it's only explaining what happens if you screw up a dispel.

Also, yes, Greater Spell Immunity makes you immune to Dispel Magic, but not Greater, because it specifically says you are immune to the one chosen spell. There is nothing in Explosive Runes that says Greater Dispel doesn't work. Saying "you can do X" doesn't mean you can't do Y, when Y is something you could normally do anyway.

I can erase my sentence with the eraser on my pencil, but I could also use white-out if I wanted to.


Also, what Snorter said. If you have to contort this hard to prevent something you perceive to be broken from working... maybe changing the broken thing is the better solution?


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Celanian wrote:
To stop explosive runes abuse, just use a literal reading of the spell. It specifically states that only dispel magic and erase can magically trigger it. It does not mention greater dispel magic. That means you can only dispel 1 set of runes at a time. The precedent is like spell immunity which makes you immune to 1 specific spell, but not variants of the same spell.

Greater Dispel Magic says it functions like Dispel Magic. You're really grasping at straws here. Also, that line isn't there to explain you can disable Explosive Runes with Dispel Magic, since you could anyway. It's to explain what happens if you fail.


Celanian wrote:
Snorter wrote:

And on 'reading is a standard action':

If that were the case, it would make most runes, glyphs and symbol spells obsolete.
All one has to do, is stay active, while raiding an enemy territory, and you'll never have a standard action spare, to need to worry about such hazards.

Wizard: (pulls cover from ancient stone pillar) "Behold your DOOM! This site is protected by The Dread Sign of Azhogomemnon! It will drain your SOUL! Bwahahaha!"

Big Dumb Fighter: "Sorry, cant stop. Too long, didn't read. Take that"
(decapitates wizard)

Show me how a boxer is supposed to read a sheet of paper in his hand in a boxing match without the other boxer smacking him.

Ali: "Sorry Frazier, I need to read a text from my BFF for a moment"

Frazier: Punches out Ali when he looks down at his Ipad.

I keep coming back to this. You ask for rules cites and then never give one yourself. So, tell me where exactly the action required to read something is described? I don't care about your explanation for your assumption. Give a page number.

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