Sarrah wrote:Really? My understanding was that you flat out aren't allowed to make a +3 sword if you're not level 9 or higher. And that you similarly aren't allowed to make a +2 amulet of natural armor unless your caster level isn't high enough for the bonus (4 levels per +1 I believe). And isn't the CL added to difficulty already factoring in that part? I mean, unless they are taking feats, traits, and other stuff to maximize Spellcraft a level 5 player is probably going to find a CL 15 item to be difficult to make. Especially if they have multiple prereqs that they're missing.Daniel Myhre wrote:Note that caster level for a vanilla +X item is three times the enhancement bonus. So to make a +5 sword it's caster level 15 base. If there's both, use the highest caster level. So in the case of a +5 shield of heroism, that would probably be caster level 15, for a DC of 20 minimum to craft.
If he is not a CL 15, he does not meet that prerequisite and gets to add another +5 to the DC for his check (in this specific situation).
Caster level prerequisites are one of the things you can ignore by adding +5 to the DC. It is entirely possible for a 5th level character to make +5 armor and weapons (should he have the money and ability to make the check).
Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by +5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites.
And there is even a FAQ about it:
As presented on page 549 of the Core Rulebook, there are no limitations other than (1) you have to have the item creation feat, and (2) you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting their spell prerequisites. So racial requirements, specific spell requirements, math requirements (such as "caster level must be at least three times the enhancement bonus"), and so on, are all subject to the +5 DC rule.