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Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

I'm curious, am I the only one who sees just 1 enemy on the map? And I believe the one I do see has been killed by Maelchar. Is this correct?

@Variel: If possible, Morgrym will hold his breath while in the cloud if it's possible. He has this ability:

Mythic Sustenance (Su): Your mythic power is enough to sustain you. You no longer need to eat, drink, or breathe to live. You're immune to inhaled poisons and any spell or effect that requires breathing, though you are still affected by any food or drink you intake.

Let me know if this doesn't apply and I'll roll in game.

But I'm still curious about how many bad guys there are though. If need be, I can just roll as normal and you can apply the attacks to whomever you want(Of course, that's if I can even freaking hit anything). :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Wait! Meant to say something earlier but completely bombed on it. Thordak will give a 1000g as well. Because I'm willing to bet Thordak will need that Raise Dead before Kellen. ;)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Weapon Qualities

Cost: This value is the weapon's cost in gold pieces (gp) or silver pieces (sp). The cost includes miscellaneous gear that goes with the weapon, such as a scabbard or quiver.

This cost is the same for a Small or Medium version of the weapon. A Large version costs twice the listed price.

I will say it doesn't say anything about Huge or larger weapons on cost though. I do notice Herolabs increases the price for a weapon bigger than large but that's herolabs.

I'd guess they just never thought it necessary. Of course now you've got Eidolons you can build in biped form and if you spend enough evolution points, you can make it Huge. Which means you'd need a Huge weapon for it. Or a one-handed Gargantuan weapon.

As an fyi, Herolabs has it as x4 Huge, x8 Gargantuan, x16 Colossal. Which, in my opinion, would make sense.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

For the Gloves, all the Ogre hooks, the Phylactery of Positive Channeling and the comb, I've got it at: 19,519gp.

Split 6 ways would be 3,253g.

But that's only if the comb is sold for full price. I'm not sure about cost on stuff like that.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

The Ettin:
The loot consists of 693 gp; 1,240 sp;
a velvet pouch containing six 100 gp pearls

Did we add these to the loot already? These are also from the Ettin's cave.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

That'll work. Worst comes to worse those do work better. Okay, sell the gloves then.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Also, I think I'm gonna snag the Trident and the Gloves.

I figure if no one wants the gloves, might as well use 'em until something better comes along. Or until I can have some made that I prefer more at a later date.

So if no one wants them, I'll take 'em. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Okay, magic item calculations actually work like this:

Say you have a +1 weapon which = 2000g.

Now, if you add something like, keen,or vicious, etc, etc(and all of those are +1 abilities) then your +1 weapon effectively becomes a +2 weapon.

So that 2000g +1 weapon actually is now effectively a +2 weapon which is now at a cost of 8,000g.

So say you want to add Holy special ability which is a +2 bonus. Well then your +1 weapon is now equivalent to a +3 weapon. Which now has a cost of 18,000g.

The +1 and +2 bonus of weapon special abilities are actually added to the +1 bonus of the weapon making it equivalent to a +2 or +3 weapon cost. And a weapon can't have any abilities without it being at least a +1.

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Otherwise, think about it this way: if we could actually add a +1 bonus at a cost of 2,000g, shoooot, we could add a household of special abilities for squat! You could spend a mere 10,000g and have FIVE +1 special abilities added to a +1 weapon. That'd be a pretty awesome weapon at such a low cost, you gotta admit. :)

The trident breakdown would be as such:

Trident: 30g(Because a weapon doubles in original cost when it's large. And just as an fyi, the bigger it gets the more it will increase in cost originally); 300g for masterwork; 2000g for +1; 3000g for adamantine; adding vicious to it(a +1 bonus) adds 6000g.

Which total would give you 11,330g.

All of the ogre hooks are pretty much correct. The only discrepancy there is the original cost should be 48g instead of 24.

And the Bane ability on the different one should read 6,000g.

Hope this helps. I'm not the best in explaining things but I tried to break it down as best I could.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Actually the Ogre hooks would cost this:

5 +1 Ogre hooks: 11,740gp total
1 +1 Ogre hook(human bane): 8,348
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Total for them all would be: 20,088g which when all sold would be: 10,044g.

And the Trident is only actually worth: 11,030gp if it's large or 11,015 if it's medium.

Either way, if sold it comes out to roughly 5500gp.

But I'm somewhat tempted to keep it if it's a large weapon. If it's medium, I'm probably gonna keep a regular +1 ogre hook.

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@Lym: Actually, adjusting from a +1 bonus to a +2 is 6,000g cost. For you it would only be 3,000g since you're crafting it. I'm totally guessing here you're basing the 4,000g off the 8,000g cost of a +2 weapon. Of course, you may very well be aware of the 3,000g cost and just wish to make a profit, which I must admit, makes you a heck of a business person. I have heard that it's a dog eat dog world out there and we better not be wearin' our milk bone underwear. ;)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Dax Thura wrote:
I say we trade them for 3 other weapons.

You talking about the Ogre hooks? Sounds good to me. Matter of fact, might as well sell the Human bane one also.

5 +1 ogre hooks: 11,740g
1 +1 ogre hook(human bane): 8,348

Total: 20,088 divided by 2 = 10,044 gold. About 1600 gold each.

@OG: The trident is a medium weapon, right? I can't remember if scrags are medium or large creatures.

If the trident's large, I'm tempted to use it. Otherwise, I say we sell it also.

I'd like to keep one of the +1 ogre hooks if the trident is medium sized. Just to have an up close magical melee weapon.

But I say we go ahead and sell the human bane one. Of course, as soon as we do that, there'll be a bunch of bad guy humans marching in by the dozens. That's how it always works you know. :P

And this is all based on the fact that if we can actually sell all this stuff of course.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

I got nothing. I'm good. Thanks though!


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Kellen Wrensler wrote:
So, to answer your question - I'm not sure what a Hammer of Thunderbolts costs, but you have way more than 29 gold to work with.

Lol! I was only kidding about that. It's an artifact. :)

Yeah I don't think the Trident was identified. I'm curious as to what it does.

That Phylactery NEEDS to go to Tomaru. That's a cool item. Dangit. I just checked. He's got a headband of wisdom. Man that's pretty handy though. +2d6 bonus to channel.

No one took the gloves of swimming and climbing? Heck, I'll take 'em if no one wants them. ORRRRR, we could sell them and get 3000g for them. That's tempting.

We sell the +1 ogre hook.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
So'rien Zeru wrote:
Yes yes, your hate sustains me!!!

Lol!


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Lym Blackhand wrote:
Guys, I can craft magic weapons now. If anyone wants something, let me know and hand me the cash. ;)

I'm curious... do we even have any money? I don't remember really collecting any cash at all. All I've got showing on Thordak's cash is 29 gold.

And just a shot in the dark here, but, I'm guessing 29 gold is probably not gonna get me my Hammer of Thunderbolts I've been wanting. ;P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

lol! That's just wrong, man, that's just wrong. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Man I'm glad you remembered as well, Tomaru. Because I don't remember either of those items AT ALL. Nothing. Nada. Zero. I got nothing. It's pretty shameful actually.

Heck, like I mentioned a while back, I read this whole AP when it first came out and vaguely remember that picture OG put up for us but that's it. No idea who she is/was and don't remember Whitewillow or the fey named "Yap" either.

I ran in Second Darkness in RL several years ago and remember a ghost in that one pretty clearly but I believe I'm getting the two confused. I keep thinking to myself: "Isn't this dead guy we're looking for washed up near the shore off a cliff?" If any of you have played SD I believe that's fairly accurate. Because that's what's stuck in my mind. And so very little sticks there unfortunately. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

@Zeriax/Pakak: :) But to be fair, if either of you want it I'll still hold to what I said. I still be willing for the hand me down +1. Don't hesitate to say something. It's all good to me.

Man when I clicked on the gameplay thread of the "1 new post" and saw "DM Immortal" my instant thought was, "What the heck thread is this? Who the heck is DM Immortal?" And then I realized it was just the wrong avatar. Had me tripping, man. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Nasira Yusra Abujamal wrote:
Morgrym is part of Nasira's AC plan. Please, take the ring.

lol! Fair enough. Okay, will snag it then.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
DM Variel wrote:
Lol, stupid auto correct got me. 'Vicious' dagger

lol! Oh okay, gotcha. Man I was wondering. Sitting here thinking to myself, "Haven't heard of that ability before. I wonder what it does?" :D

You know, maybe it should be a special ability. Maybe it should be. Dagger of Vision(s) it could be called. Have no idea what purpose it would serve but it sounds kinda cool. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Okay, I'll confess, I wouldn't mind snagging that ring of protection. I'm fairly certain most of you folks have a +1 ring of protection(Just a shot in the dark here - simply too lazy to actually go look because it's late and I need to call it quits) so at the very least if one of you prefers the +2, I'd be more than willing to take a hand me down +1 ring. I'm flexible. :)

Personally, I'd have to suggest Nasira for the ring due to the fact that if she lives, Morgrym lives. :)

Aside: This is obviously based off the fact that you all do not actually possess +2 rings of course.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
DM Variel wrote:
+2 studded leather armor light fortification shadowed (yes that is right +3 item with +5 to stealth, no this was not design for Zeriax but actually there. I just upped it to +2 instead of +1)

I don't think Zeriax can use armor. That is, unless, his archetype allows him to wear armor. Which could be highly possible.

Did we pick up the javelins of lightning from the Salamanders?

DM wrote:
+2 visions dagger that he never got a chance to use

Okay, what's a "visions" dagger?


Alright, I think I've got him altogether now. He's the one below the broken lines. Morthos

There still might be some mechanics issues here and there but that's pretty much the gist of him.

Decided on Warpriest, thunderbeard, mainly due to the extra bells and whistles. I mean, who doesn't like bells and whistles? :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Ah, I was wondering if that might be the case. Nothing to see here, folks, move along.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Nasira Yusra Abujamal wrote:
So'rien Zeru wrote:
Yeah thats my last one though that I can do selective.
Maybe so, but I can healing selectively, so if you have to hit some of us, I can follow up with some bandaids...

Teamwork, bay-bee! That's what I'm talkin' about. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Just for clarification purposes, paladin's are immune to shaken, correct? Because I believe it's a lesser form of fear. But don't quote me on that.

Mainly I ask because Praxim rolled a save but initially I didn't think he had to. Of course, I could easily be wrong. That tends to happen a lot with me. :P

Edit: This is completely based off the fact Praxim doesn't have some type of archetype ability that replaces his immunity to fear. If that's the case then just ignore everything I wrote above. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Lol! Maxed out AC, mirror images, and miss chances and you're still getting nailed? That truly does sound exactly like my luck. :P

And THAT'S true. It would not have been pretty if those were all attack rolls for sure. Morgrym would probably be durn near to bleeding out.

It's funny, it seems like when you're rolling for something that's like, "Whatever, I don't really care either way" then you roll fantastic. But when you're sweating bullets, "Please don't roll a 1, please don't roll a 1" then that's when it happens... a 2 pops up. "Crap!" :P

There's actually been a couple of times before I made a roll that I've told myself, "You know, I have a bad feeling this is gonna be a 1" and sure enough, thar she rolls. I could just "feel" it coming on like a bad cold.

Although to be fair, there's also been a couple times I've said, "I'm gonna need a 20. That's my only hope." And sure enough, that sucker popped up! That was pretty awesome.

Unfortunately, the 20's are FAR rarer than the 1's I'm afraid. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Pakak wrote:


BTW Morgrym, not ignoring your plea to light them up with another cold burst, but the selective option our sorcerer nailed seemed better anyway ;)

lol! Can't argue with that, bud. :)

@Pakak: That is freaking unbelievable, dude. You just absorbed that lightning bolt?! You gotta be freaking kidding me. That is just flat out cool.

@So'rien: That's just freaking cool imagery. And that selective business is just too cool. Is that an ability of some kind or what?

@Variel: Seriously, dude?! You need to make a DC 26 save and you make 4 out of freaking 5?! WHAT?!?! I'm plus 17 on my to hit, and I can't even break 20?! That's just wrong, man. That's it, I'm using your dice from now on and you can use mine. TOO LATE! I already called it. No take backs, you snooze you lose, finders keepers, one potato two potato, red rover don't come over, eeny meeny miny larry curly and moe, etc, etc, and whatever else means I win. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Phillip Hargreaves wrote:
It intrigues me... in a train wreck kind of can't look away kind of way...

HA! That's it! The train wreck analogy. That's the feeling I got but couldn't think of it.

And I'm sorry, but I can't help but laugh at Joana's "10 gold bonus" statement. :D

I don't know why I find it so funny. I guess because it's just so far beyond terrible, the only thing left to do is laugh. :P

I know what you are all thinking, people. And let me tell you, insanity has its positives, folks, you just gotta know how to embrace it. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

LOL! Oh my gosh you've got to be kidding me! "If you don't do this job... well... everybody dies. Sorry but thems the breaks, folks. Hey, 10 gold is a lot-o money. You better jump on this ship for it sinks, friends. You're not gonna get a lot of offers like this one. I'm tellin' ya." :D

And the fact that it gets worse just flat out scares me. :P


@Thunderbeard: I've merely glanced at Variant Channeling so I know very little about it, but I'll look into it. Main reason I like the Warpriest is the fervor ability and his ability to pick fighter feats every 3 levels. Plus how the weapon damage increases.

But I'll definitely check that out. You've got me curious.

@Rosemary: Thanks! And I just checked out your spoiler. Dang that is a nasty build. I love me a good vampire template. I've always thought they were cool.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Maelchar wrote:
Maelchar creates a greatsword and casts lead blades on it, letting his levitation take him down toward the salamanders at a bit slower rate than Morgrym's vertical charge.

Lol! C'mon, man! Live a little! ;)


I'm gonna throw this guy in there: Morthos

Ran him in a game a couple years ago that died. His mechanics are not up to snuff at all but will get that done before the deadline.
Gonna gestalt into Warpriest.


What's up, thunderbeard?! Been a long time, bud. Will check that out. Thanks!


Thanks for the clarification, Rednal.

A feat every level? That's freaking cool. So, if you're a fighter, does that mean you get 2 feats(the fighter bonus plus the standard) every even numbered level?


"Automatic Bonus Progression(though weapon/armour abilities don't count against attunement and an individual weapon/set of armour is limited to +5 worth of abilities)."

"1 feat per HD/class level instead of per 2HD/class level(Leadership and Sacred Geometry banned)."

Okay, what do these two statements mean? I just wanna make sure I'm reading them correctly.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Thanks!

Okay. Done and done.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Kellen Wrensler wrote:

To get into the rowing as they move along, Kellen starts quietly warbling out a tune:

"Adelida, pretty little Varisian queen! Belle of the bayou; you're every young man's dream. To stand beside ya, sweet Adelida, I'd swim the Jegg-a-re!"

Lol! I knew I knew that song! I was looking at it and thought: "Man, that looks familiar." Good one, dude. Been forever since I heard that one. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Doh! Cool. That'll work.

Would Masterwork be available?


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Doh! I keep forgetting about that. First thing in the morning Snake will be heading to the Thieves' tool store.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Lol!


Gonna go with this guy: Emercy

Just ignore the one in a spoiler. I built him as a cleric way back when and just don't have the heart to delete it. Just put too much effort into it. :) Was actually torn between the cleric and warpriest. Figured I'd give warpriest a shot just because I've never run one.

Mechanically he's not completely cleaned up but can do that if chosen. Figure there's no sense if you decide to go with another.

I'm in CST and can only post typically after 6:30pm during weekdays. Weekends are obviously far easier for me, but, of course that's when most people aren't posting so that's probably neither here nor there.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

You know, this is where Natasha would've come in handy. Having Droguk as the "team spokesperson" is probably gonna get us all killed. So, just to get this out of the way, I'll go ahead and apologize now to you all. :P


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

@Variel: I do have this ability:

Invulnerable Rager
Extreme Endurance (Ex): At 3rd level, the invulnerable rager is inured to either hot or cold climate effects (choose one) as if using endure elements. In addition, the barbarian gains 1 point of fire or cold resistance for every three levels beyond 3rd. This ability replaces trap sense.

Would this work? Unless of course it's way over 140 degrees.


I'm gonna try and get a dwarven warpriest together.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

LOL!

Hey! I totally understand that last line. Just sayin'. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Tendal Deverin wrote:
I think I figured it out...its been a long day.

Hey, bud, don't feel bad. I NEVER know what Gristav says. I just hope and pray he's not talking to Snake so I don't have to decipher what the heck he's trying to say. Otherwise, I just get a big headache. :P

He talks in one big circle I'm telling you! And no one does it better. ;)
And it's not even like there's big, fantastic, what-the-heck-does-that-even-mean kind of words in there that weird people like Joana and Mark always use(well, every once in a while he might but not to the extent of those two. And in my opinion, sometimes I think it's a competition between those two. The "Fancy Word competition that has Javell heading for the Dictionary again" game. I'd probably call it a tie up to this point but I've only a small sampling). ;)

Think of it as if trying to decipher a rubik's cube: You know the freaking colors have to match on all sides, you just don't know how the heck to get all the colors to match up on all sides unless you've worked at it for hours on end.

Which equals a big headache as mentioned above. It's all comes back to the headache. :)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Braddon Hurst wrote:
Of course we're staying put. Listening to Braddon invites madness :-)

THAT'S true. ;)


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
DM Variel wrote:
Nice use of a mythic point there to get past DR So'rien. As for Magic weapons i think as soon as you guys get past this dungeon sequence and get to some downtime that is going to be Morgrym's first point of emphasis to those who are able to craft items.

Man, you AIN'T kiddin'! Most definitely his first order of business.

Don't worry about magicking my hammer, I can still do a decent amount of damage even if he's sittin' at 15 DR/whatever.

That's if I hit of course.

Most damage is gonna come from the spells anyway(And Mal's weapon of course. Man that is some brutal damage you do with that thing. 6d6 on a normal hit! That's just nasty).


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness
Nasira Yusra Abujamal wrote:
Just checking making sure you guys are including +1 luck bonus on your attacks. I don't know if Maelchar gets it since he posted before me.

You are talking about the haste bonus, correct? Because if you're not, then I've utterly missed something and haven't been adding it.


Male Humanly Awesome 'n Totally Rockin' Paladin of Greatness

Okay. Got the rage power decided. I'm good to go.

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