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RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games. Pathfinder Society Member. 7,032 posts. 1 review. No lists. No wishlists. 1 Pathfinder Society character.


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Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

That does sound pretty sweet! :)

At this point, I anticipate that our next product to release will be Ultimate War. I should be getting the review copies in the next day or so, and if everything is copacetic I hope to be able to release it on Friday.

Next in line, aside from our Mythic Minis restarting next month (hey, I'm taking the week off right after GenCon) would be Path of Villains, and we shall see what comes after that!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Ha, many thanks!

And for what it's worth, I only make the implication that a certain game is the world's most FAMOUS roleplaying game. It still has a brand identity that for a lot of the non-gamer public is virtually synonymous with the entire genre. What's the fastest way to explain your favorite game RPG to someone who doesn't game?

"I play Pathfinder."
"What's that?"
"Well, it's kind of like... "

Most popular, I think we know where Pathfinder ranks on the sales charts and has for a while. :)

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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wackyanne wrote:
Jason Nelson wrote:
I must state for the record that any reference to a specific game in the product tags or product groupings for this product has been added for organizational purposes by the online retailer, Paizo Inc. Legendary Games claims no affiliation with any other company and makes no reference to any specific roleplaying game in this product or its product description.

Well, that's hardly true. In your email promoting a sale of your Pathfinder-compatible products on a competing site, Legendary Games says the following:

"The only products not included are the two adventures we are releasing this GenCon for use with the 5th Edition of the world's most famous roleplaying game. There are no dungeons in them, nor dragons, but The Murmuring Fountain (5th Ed) and The Fiddler's Lament (5th Ed) both provide excellent 1st-level adventures with a delightful splash of horror and mystery. Grab your brand-new Basic Set or Player's Handbook and take your new 5th Edition characters for a spin in these darkling fantasy adventures from industry legends Greg Vaughan, Clark Peterson, and Jason Nelson!"

The only thing that was not done was spell out Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition directly, while referring to it as closely as possible, in every which way possible. You are at the very best being disingenuous, if not dishonest or worse.
The product may itself be good (hard to say, particularly as to its compatibility, as only the PHB and some Basic Rules have been released of D&D5E so far), but the promotion leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Hi Wackyanne,

I posted a reply over on The Fiddler's Lament thread, but the same is true here, of course.

Then again, Orthos beat me to the punch and said pretty much everthing I did over there. I should've read this thread first and I could've pointed you to his explanation instead! :)

Thanks Orthos, and I hope you pick up the product and enjoy it Quiche Lisp.

Jason

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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Hi Wackyanne,

What you say is both true and not, because that dividing line in the world of IP is a very important one. You are allowed to hint all you like, but you cannot directly refer to trademarks owned by another company. The terms we have referenced are common-language words that are not specific to any company. There are many 5th editions of things. There are other Player's Handbooks. There are other Basic Sets.

Terms like "D&D" and "DM" and "Dungeon Master" are all trademarked terms that are owned by Wizards of the Coast. That's why you don't see them in Pathfinder products, even though the game is (mostly) backwards compatible with the 3rd Edition of the game.

In this case, the Paizo webstore has tagged our product with the trademark of another company. That's something that we, as the creators of the product can't do, and to avoid the appearance of infringing on a trademark we need to state that.

If it sounds like legalese weasel words... well, that makes two of us, but unfortunately that's the field you play in when you create products that connect to another company's. The same thing is true with our Adventure Path Plug-Ins for Paizo's APs. It doesn't matter that many of our authors are the same ones that worked on the APs. If a Paizo product isn't on the list on the PRD, we can't reference it. We can use rules from it, but we can't mention it by name. We can hint about the "Pirate Adventure Path" or the "Gothic Horror AP" and specific characters, places, and events that you find in them, and we do in a number of ways, but we can't call out any of it by name or refer to it directly.

When you put them together it creates an implied meaning that we intend to be obvious, but we literally CAN'T come right out and say it, and in fact it is in our interest to make a disclaimer to any readers to ensure that not only are we not infringing any trademarks, but that we are not creating a product that is "confusingly similar" to the products of another company.

If we can construct an announcement that clearly conveys the meaning we wish without actually, that's the best we can do to help the gaming public find products that we think will be a lot of fun for them to use with certain game systems or products, but the legalities require us to do this little tap dance.

I certainly regret any sense of dissembling and any bad taste that arose from the product announcements and phrasing and hope the above makes some sense as to why we took the approach we did.

TL;DR - We know what this product would work well with. We assume you can figure it out pretty easily. But, to fulfill the letter of the law we are required to say otherwise, even if it seems silly or disingenuous.

Thanks for your feedback,
Jason

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Glad to hear you loved it. If you have time, please do post a review on the product page for Path of Dragons!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Still happening. That will be our early September Mythic Monsters release.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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Glad you guys are looking forward to it! I am too!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Woohoo! Happy reading and hope you enjoy it!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

It does!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Just got some great new artwork from Michael Jaecks for an upcoming product. This is one time when you'll be very happy to get WORMS!!!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

It's in layout right now. As soon as Dain finishes with it, it'll be up for sale!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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I must state for the record that any reference to a specific game in the product tags or product groupings for this product has been added for organizational purposes by the online retailer, Paizo Inc. Legendary Games claims no affiliation with any other company and makes no reference to any specific roleplaying game in this product or its product description.

That said, if you were planning to pick up a new edition of a roleplaying game that is probably the best-known brand name in the industry, this adventure should work with it very well. :)

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

I must state for the record that any reference to a specific game in the product tags or product groupings for this product has been added for organizational purposes by the online retailer, Paizo Inc. Legendary Games claims no affiliation with any other company and makes no reference to any specific roleplaying game in this product or its product description.

That said, if you were planning to pick up a new edition of a roleplaying game that is probably the best-known brand name in the industry, this adventure should work with it very well. :)

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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Wrath wrote:
Bob Bob Bob wrote:

I think you're wildly overestimating what a 2 mile radius is. When I dropped that on Mount Rushmore, it only barely reached the nearest settlement. It's the range a human in full plate covers in an hour, walking. Also, due to the way magic is written, it only hits that 2 mile radius, even if you conjure a tornado. "a spell's range is the maximum distance from you that the spell's effect can occur", from the Range entry of magic. Unless you're dropping it right outside a city you don't want to wreck only the animals get screwed.

I'm failing to see how "with a single spell I can destroy an entire cave network/invading army/village" is balanced in any way by "but we'll have to check to make sure we don't hit anyone we don't want to or else we become the bad guys". Since it takes 10 minutes to cast and manifest and choosing "calm local...

So, now you're not just casting and walking away as the orginal poster of this scenario posted.

Now you're sending out the rest of the party to clear a two mile radius (12.56 square miles) so you can cast a spell to take care of the big bad guy.

Hexes in Kingmaker are 12 miles across, making them around 150 square miles. You'd need over a dozen 2-mile-radius circles to cover one hex.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Awesome. You should have a very good time LOOTING!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Oh, and I almost forgot:

HUGE SAVINGS, new GenCon exclusives, pirates, magic, spells, and... 5th Edition too! Truly, this is going to be a LEGENDARY GenCon, and we want you to join us in celebrating!

GENCON Exclusives available only at the Legendary Games webstore: the aforementioned Islands of Plunder: Raid on the Emperor's Hand

GENCON Exclusives available RIGHT NOW at the Legendary Games webstore and starting on Thursday the 14th at shop.d20pfsrd, Paizo, and DrivethruRPG: The Murmuring Fountain and The Fiddler's Lament revised for use with the 5th Edition of the world's most famous roleplaying game!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

EML: Yes, Kingmaker too! In fact, I added some information and images about Royal Tournaments to my PowerPoint presentation!

LM: If you want to launch Jade Regent, go for it! I'll send around the information as I am able over the GenCon weekend so you can see what is coming.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

As a matter of fact... WE DO!

And not just on the distant horizon, either. We have TWO (possibly three) products we are hoping to release in the next month or two, and maybe a third by year's end, which will probably close the book on our Far East Plug-Ins. There will be more news about that at our "What's New with Legendary Games" seminar on Thursday at GenCon, 5:00-6:00 in the Grand Central C at the Crowne Plaza (and which I'll be posting up online as soon as I have the opportunity).

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

AVAST MATEYS - it's time for a Raid on the Emperor's Hand!

We are proud to announce the fourth episode in Superstar author Matt Goodall's 5-star Islands of Plunder series, a fantastic 8th-level adventure for daring privateers with the guts to go for the biggest score of their misbegotten lives!

And since it IS GenCon week and this IS Paizo.com, far be it from us to bring you new product without also announcing FANTASTIC OFFERS FOR BIG SAVINGS right here at the Paizo.com store!

How does 50% off all PDFs (except one), 10% off print books, and 20% off print/PDF bundles (plus the PDF Gothic Campaign Compendium) sound to you?

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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Got your message. Rachel and I chatted and nailed down all the Paypal backer info, so it looks like things are squared away on that front.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Send me a note at makeyourgamelegendary@gmail.com and I'll see I can get you something before I head out for GenCon.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

One note about the Vegsundvaag encounter. I had originally written it with her having several children in her lair, each with their own cave, so that an encounter with the mama dragon would also involve an encounter with one or more of the young dragons at the same time. They might not come to help the other young dragons, but they would come to mama's call and she would come to theirs.

If you're interested in the original manuscript, let me know.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Not one but TWO products about to drop, just in time for GenCon. We'll have more details tomorrow, but for now how about two announcements on BIG SAVINGS FOR GENCON!

Big bundle savings on shop.d20pfsrd!

nd ANOTHER bundle PLUS a THIRD OFF EVERYTHING on DrivethruRPG!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Hi Patrick,

Go ahead and resend your email to make double-sure we get everything we need. I probably won't be able to reply until after the con, but I'll feel better knowing your info is in my inbox.

Jason

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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I have not reviewed all the survey data, so what I have is from the messages I got by the end of the Kickstarter and shortly thereafter. Rachel Ventura has been in charge of going through and compiling all the survey information, including emailing back people who haven't completed various items, etc. I'll go over that info with her after GenCon and we'll amend the list. If you sent it in on your survey then I'm sure it's there. I just haven't seen it with my own two eyes yet.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

A special double-sized Mythic Mini for GenCon - Mythic Minis 30: Mythic Martial Arts VI, plus an announcement about new bundles available just in time for GenCon!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Works for me! :)

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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Rachel and I will be having a meeting after GenCon to go over all the survey data, clean up any loose ends, and get that finalized. In the meanwhile, a close to comprehensive list (aside from any oddballs or late changes) is contained in the FAQ at the bottom of the main Kickstarter page, which includes the following:

MONSTERS:
Kakuen-taka (Mythic Monsters: Abyssal)
Pseudodragon (Mythic Monsters: Dragons)
Psionic aboleth (3.5)
Vampiric lizard king (1st edition)
Veiled master (Inner Sea Bestiary)
Werewolf (Bestiary)

SPELLS:
Battering Blast (Dungeons of Golarion)
Elemental Grasp (Deep Magic)
Embrace Destiny (Lost Kingdoms)
Emergency Force Shield (Cheliax: Empire of Devils)
Eaglesoul (Inner Sea Magic)
Geniekind (Inner Sea Magic)
Snowball (People of the North)

FEATS:
Advanced Alchemy (Kobold Press Complete Advanced Feats)
Arcane Missiles (RGG Magic Missile Bullet Points)
Call Leviathan (Kobold Games Sunken Empires)
Deep Bond Familiar (ultimate option: new arcane discovery)
Elemental Boost (Advanced Feats)
Familiar Range Extension (Advanced Feats from Kobold Press)
Fatal Finesse (RGG)
Greater Finesse (RGG)
Legendary Missiles (7 Magic Missile Feats, RGG)
Lighten Weapon (Kobold's Advanced Feats)
Lustful (RGG 7 Sinful Feats of Lust)
Mass Effect (Deep Magic)
Master of Magic Lore (ultimate option: new arcane discovery)
Piranha Strike (Zach Bertram)
Rememorise (Advanced Feats from Kobold Press)
Savage Critical (Advanced Feats)
Signature Focus (Advanced Feats)
Thrown Slam (RGG Feats of Hammer and Thunder)
Undying ( ultimate option; new arcane discovery)

CLASSES:
Armiger (Rogue Genius Games)
Fusilier (Rogue Genius Games)
Battle Scion (New Paths Compendium)

MAGIC ITEMS:
Ring of Force Shield (vs. magic missiles)

PATH ABILITIES:
Extended abundant casting
Powerful Spell Build
Thrall

PSIONIC POWERS:
Precognition
Sensitivity to Psychic Impressions

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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New update is live, with art samples and a new product announcement related to the MYTHIC MANIA project!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

It all makes sense now! Hope your players enjoy it!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

And the Legendary Games spokesmodel, Miles the Magnificent, is BACK IN BLACK, decked out in a brand-new Legendary Games T-shirt!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Thanks and hope you enjoy it! Of course, I must say that Mythic Monsters: Dragons does have a lot of very cool stuff, and I think the brand-new fell drake would make a great minion monster for either an Umbral or Underworld Dragon.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Happy to oblige. Thanks for the review!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Hi DM Papa,

I believe the product description above names every creature that's in the book

Since the book only has a dozen and one dragon stat blocks, for the first iteration of mythic dragons we wanted to focus on the core chromatics and a scattering of other classic dragon creatures across a good CR range. Primal and Imperial dragons aren't in this book.

HOWEVER, Mythic Monsters: Dragons does have a number of dragon-specific feats that would be very nice on your dragon boss. Even better, though, as Neil suggested, you probably would really love Path of Dragons, which has a host of new special mythic abilities and even mythic paths for dragons and which you could easily drop onto any dragon. Check that one out and I think you'll be very happy with all the tools and tricks you'll be able to use to make your dragon boss awesome.

Jason

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Thanks for the review, Endy!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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You're that guy who did that thing!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

And to follow up on the above, Mythic Monsters: Aberrations are now available ALL OVER THE PLACE, including right here at Paizo.com!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Aberrations, gentille aberrations!
Aberrations, je te plumerai!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Thanks Liz!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Another 5-star review for Righteous Heroes, courtesy of Endzeitgeist.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to review our products!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

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At Legendary, we have a metric ton of cool stuff about to slide down the pipe, so I thought perhaps one thread to drop those announcements might come in handy. Like today, for instance, since Mythic Monsters: Aberrations just went live!

Why should you get this book?

MYTHIC FROGHEMOTH!

All other arguments are invalid. Unless they involve mythic ropers, or rust monsters, mimics, or otyughs, or wolves-in-sheep's-clothing. Yes. Them too. And more.

Buy this TODAY! If you don't a zyoselak is going to come to your house and eat your brain.

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Eric Hinkle wrote:
Jason Nelson wrote:
I've been slacking on the previews (though not on the work - Ultimate War continues to grow unabated)

Good news! Is the plan still to release it in time for Gencon?

And good luck with the other books and PDFs too.

Thanks! As for Ultimate War, ASK AND YE SHALL RECEIVE PREVIEWS!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

I've been slacking on the previews (though not on the work - Ultimate War continues to grow unabated), but here's a second quick teaser for a product that is getting very close now!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Buy the one you want! Vote with your dollars! Two covers enter... ONE COVER LEAVES!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Yay!

But what's AMOM?

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

We have indeed, and there's a product coming not too terribly far down the line that should have a number of the creatures you're looking for.

The yeti, FWIW, has already appeared in Mythic Monsters 16: Monstrous Humanoids!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

The latest clever move to pin down your wallet is here with Mythic Minis 29: Feats of Wrestling, with a side order of Mythic Minis: Aliens now available in TWO DIFFERENT covers, classic and variant!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

The alien's have landed RIGHT HERE, in classic LG style!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

The aliens have landed, and we'll tell you where they are... RIGHT HERE!

Osirion RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4; Contributor; Publisher, Legendary Games

Woohoo, now available! Two-point takedown! Or maybe it's a one-point escape... into the world of buyability!

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