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Creative Director, Starfinder Team. 2,621 posts (2,652 including aliases). No reviews. No lists. No wishlists. 2 aliases.


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"Classic" Pathfinder races like elves are indeed in the core rulebook. They just get less limelight than the new races.

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Gark the Goblin wrote:

Hey James,

If you'd had the radiation rules set (from the Technology Guide) when you wrote Distant Worlds, would you have given the sun a similar effect?

Probably? The sun's a rough place to be.

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Rysky wrote:

While trying to find a name for my Vigilante devoted to The Last Prince of the Eldest (a Vilderavn that got "demoted" to a mortal) a friend brought up the Rook.

Which got me looking over the Lost Prince's stuff. Was the connection between his symbol, a crumbling black tower (in chess, a Rook) and his sacred animal the Raven (a Corvus, of which a Rook is as well) intentional?

:-O

I mean... yeah, totally intentional, I'm the king of symbolism.

<_<

>_ >

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Will we ever learn more about the mysterious child-goddess(es) of Ankar-Te in Kaer Maga?

I kinda hope not. I always saw that as a present to GMs, in that it's something you can make whatever you want!

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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:

In City of Strangers you mention that Elias Sayer of The Strapping Lad (and the Tallow Boys) holds egalitarian views on the profession of sex work, that Rosaline "Madame Rose" Merithane does not share.

What, exactly, ARE those views? What are they arguing over?

I'm sure I knew at the time, but I actually don't remember! Perhaps he's more into having his staff be happy and empowered and calling the shots—it would certainly make sense, since his workers are also espionage experts.

Sorry I can't be of more use. :)

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Thomas LeBlanc wrote:

Why the decision to announce Starfinder over a year in advance? Are you trying to create anxiety in people? Enjoying all the speculation and requests?

And most importantly, has the team decided what genre of sci-fi stories they want to tell?

Best of luck!

Genre: Most of them! If we do this right, you'll be able to play Alien and Event Horizon as easily as Star Wars and Fifth Element. :D

And we decided to announce it so far in advance because we wanted to do it at Paizocon, surrounded by a bunch of hardcore fans, rather than at some convention where only a portion of the audience gives a hoot.

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BMovieMonster wrote:
Are there any new classes on the horizon? Also are there any areas of Pathfinder you'd like to explore more?

Starfinder will have a bunch of new classes. :)

In terms of areas of Pathfinder I'd like to explore more, I just finished a First World book that's coming out this fall, so that's one of my bucket list items! But right now, most of my attention is really turned to the other planets in the system.

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Wow, with all the Starfinder hubbub, I somehow missed that this had been announced!

One thing that isn't mentioned in the solicitation is that I wrote this whole book—been working on it on and off for probably two years now. Can't wait for you all to see it. :)

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Torbyne wrote:
"if your Pathfinder barbarian runs around the space station with a sword and no shirt, he’s gonna get torn up by some first-level soldier with an assault rifle. As he should. " feeling so warm and fuzzy inside :D

:D

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Kalindlara wrote:


That's pretty much an exact description of the Suicide Squad comic. Like... precisely. ^_^

Exactly. :D

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Torbyne wrote:


But will your panel have a video uploaded afterwards and will that video have a transcript available? :P

I don't think there'll be anything official, but I believe Know Direction is planning to record and post it.

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illumina3 wrote:
Are you accepting idea pitches and suggestions I assume?

If you're talking about actually writing products, the answer is no—open submissions, even just ideas, require really time-intensive sifting processes, and can end up in weird legal limbo if you're not careful. So for now all Starfinder writing is invite-only. But you're welcome to post suggestions for the types of things you want to see on the boards, so that we know what you're into!

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Wzrd wrote:
Alaryth wrote:
...will be new details of Starfinder on GenCon?

At the 1:04:05 mark, James Sutter was asked if there will be a Starfinder panel at Gen Con? He replied that "I will be shocked if there wasn't, I'm not sure what is planned, but probably".

So here's hoping there will be a panel, and some more juicy information.

I can now confirm there's a Starfinder panel at Gen Con! I don't know what new info we'll reveal there—we're all pretty leery of saying too much when the game's still a year away—but I'm sure something new will leak. :)

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Steve Geddes wrote:
Is there any timeline on when details of the playtesting will be announced?

Nothing I can commit to yet, but before the end of the summer.

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Look, if Paizo splits in half, it's inevitably going to be Upstairs vs. Downstairs. You'd think that we down here in the pit would have the natural advantage, being on the ground floor and controlling the stairwells, but that's underestimating Customer Service's willingness to use Cosmo as a human shield as they rush the barricades...

Seriously, though: If we thought there was *any* reasonable chance that Starfinder would fail or split the company in some terrible way, we wouldn't be doing this. As somebody who's put 12 years into Paizo, and whose ability to not sleep outside in the rain directly depends on its profitability, I'm certainly not eager to throw caution to the wind. So while I know I'm a biased source, I hope that helps put some minds at ease. :)

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*clears throat*

Ahem:

Spoiler:

quantum

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Steve Geddes wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's right up there in my (admittedly quite long) list of absolute favourites.

Anyone looking to run a game in Cheliax should set this as prescribed reading for their players, IMO. The detail on the setting was exquisite- from Thrune to politicking to hellknights to westcrown snippets....It was an effortless way to learn some solid Cheliax lore.

The characters were interesting and complicated without being difficult to follow or confusing. I ended up wanting to know more about all three of the heroes and the villain, but still felt satisfied by the conclusion to the book. It was great to read the exploits of some truly competent characters.

Thoroughly enjoyed it. We need to move to monthly releases. :)

Yay! Glad you liked it, Steve! :D

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Just to clarify: Learning things about the Gap is only *one* of the Starfinders' missions. There are other aspects to what they do, all based around the core idea of exploring new worlds and sharing that information for the good of all.

Beyond that, I should probably hold my tongue until we're finished with development on those sections. :P

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Thanks for the interview, guys! And thanks as well to everyone who watched—making the game is taking up so much of my time that I don't get to the boards as much as I'd like to, but I really enjoy answering y'all's questions... at least as much as I can at this point. :)

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DragoDorn wrote:
Is Gorum going to be like a Decepticon in Starfinder?

He transforms into an Amazon Fresh truck.

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Belabras wrote:
Any Starfinder Tales in the works anyone can talk about?

I'd love to, but first we have to make the game. :)

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Years later, I still think my original answer from that older thread is pretty good:

James Sutter wrote:

This actually comes up in The Redemption Engine as well. (Aliens and the planes in one of my novels? Shocking, I know.)

Another way to think about this is that Heaven and the other planes are sort of "instanced," to borrow an MMO term. Heaven isn't just a place--it's also a concept, and thus its physics are malleable and naturally accommodate the observer. In order for humanoid (or alien) brains to comprehend it, it has to sort of squish itself down into a shape we can perceive and understand. So is the mountain so huge you could never reach the top, or is it something you could walk up in a day? The answer is to both questions is yes. Similarly, the lawful good realm we call Heaven accommodates all creatures and societies that need it, but must therefore take shapes as varied as all the cultures of the universe. So Heaven is at once the Heaven of Golarion and ALSO all other Heavens put together.

As Jacobs said, so far, all of our setting material has detailed the "Golarion" interpretation of Heaven, but that's only because alternate versions aren't really as useful for our game. (And also because detailing and mapping alternate versions of a near-infinite realm is a sucker's game.) If you want to include a different version, such as from the real world or another game system--go for it! Our assumption is that all of those exist as user-specific aspects of the same intangible, unclassifiable concept-realm.

Confused yet? If so, don't worry. As has often been said, whether or not you believe in this interpretation of Heaven... it believes in you. :D

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Alayern wrote:


James S's reactions to prodding about a new Salim novel included "I'd really like to." and "I'm too busy at the moment."

As folks have said, Starfinder shouldn't really affect Pathfinder. As for it affecting how soon we get another Salim novel... well, that's actually pretty fair, as my brain and writing time are both full to the brim with Starfinder at the moment, and likely to stay that way for quite some time. :)

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Alayern wrote:

This is a question that, despite my burning desire to have answered, you almost certainly can't answer yet. Besides the FTL bequeathing AI will there have been any major deific shakeup?

** spoiler omitted **

Yes. :)

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Gark the Goblin wrote:
And while you're at it, why did Aroden die?

Bad milkshake. Left it in the fridge for like a week, but didn't want to throw it out, so...

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You will totally be able to use bows in Starfinder. That said, most people probably choose laser guns or assault rifles instead, for the same reasons most people would do so in real life. :P

It should be noted that all the weapon/armor/item math is getting tweaked for Starfinder, so things will likely look different than what you're used to, even in the tech guide.

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They'll be more intertwined than in Pathfinder, simply because there's almost no setting information in the Pathfinder Core Rulebook, and the races will be uniquely Starfinder rather than classic fantasy tropes. That said, I think you could totally ignore all the setting material easily. (And in fact, GMs will be strongly encouraged to go out and explore brand new worlds anyway, so there's a lot more room to worldbuild even within the canon than in Pathfinder...)

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Nick O'Connell wrote:
Malwing wrote:
Nick O'Connell wrote:
I wanted to know if it's in the official future of the pathfinder universe:|

The answer is yes and no.

Or the answer is that it's as much as Golarion's official future as a universe with time travel will allow. Also this is a future with a huge non-linear gap in time lost that happened across the multiverse so the galaxy could be in the matrix, technically in the past, in another dimension or in the dream of a water-soccer player for all we know.

The question doesn't have a definite answer in context so you're never going to get one.

That's okay because this answer satisfies me enough:)

Malwing is spot-on. As befits a science fantasy setting, Starfinder is quantum superposition canon: it both is and is not the actual future of Pathfinder until observed by an outside party—you—at which point the wave function collapses and it becomes either canon or not for your game. :D

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Luthorne wrote:
Not sure if you can answer this yet, but can you comment on the likelihood of lizardfolk (the ones from Akiton), maraquoi (from Marata), reptoids, sarcesians, trox (whether the originals from Nchak, the descendents of the modified versions that wound up enslaved on Golarion, or both), urogs (from Dykon), and vercites being core races in Starfinder? Or perhaps the centaur-like creatures from Arkanen, the kalo from Kalo-Mahoi, or the thin humanoids with light-absorbing skin from Thyst? I think a 0-HD formian caste would also be neat, but trox could serve as an insectile race...

I can't say anything yet, sorry! Stay tuned. :)

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Thanks for the well-wishes, folks! Things are super crazy right now as we get the massive beast that is the Starfinder project rolled out in earnest, but it's really exciting finally being able to talk about it!

Oh, and I haven't read Simon Green before, and Salim... well, he *probably* isn't around in the Starfinder era, but it's pretty tempting to imagine, isn't it? :)

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Kevin Mack wrote:
Hi just wondering what ever happend to the novel that was to feature Zae, Appleslayer and co?

I'm working on it right now. :)

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Should answer some questions folks are having!

EN World Interview

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Mikaze wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:

Prediction:

Iron Gods is a smash it.
A few years down the line, Distant Worlds AP is announced.
Mikaze faints, Drejk and I get drunk.

I would not faint.

...

I would stand out on the balcony of my open air bedroom, my hands resting upon the parapet as I gazed longingly at the infinite stars shining in the night sky and my hair flows in the cool breeze.

And behind me I hear the door open. Distant Worlds is there, its shirt unbuttoned. Its hair is flowing in the breeze too even though it's in the bedroom.

I run my hand through my hair. "I was worried you would never come." A tentative step forward.

Distant Worlds approaches with less hesitation. "You knew I couldn't stay away."

We are face to cover now. I shudder as it steps into the moonlight, the scent of packing styrofoam hanging thick about it. "I knew."

Distant Worlds places its hands on my shoulders and draws near, but then pauses. "But what about Wrath of the Righteous? And Mummy's Mask, and the others?"

"Shhhhh..." I place a finger upon its lips. "Allow us this one night. This one night under the stars."

Distant Worlds pulls me closer.

I whisper in its ear. "Take me to the stars. And tell me that you'll keep me safe from the terrible secret of space."

Distant Worlds begins to open its cover.

The stars shine in the night sky, but upon this earth upon that night, there was a supernova.

Hey, remember the above post, when Mikaze and Distant Worlds first got together? I'm so glad that now, with the announcement of Starfinder, they can finally make their love official. Cheers, buddy. :)

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Hey everybody!

Between my packed panel schedule here at Paizocon and only being able to access the internet on my phone, my posting ability is super limited until Tuesday, but I'm reading all of these comments! I'm really excited to see so many people enthusiastic about Starfinder. It's a crazy-awesome project, and I'm totally thrilled to be leading it, so I look forward to taking about it with you more once I've got access to a keyboard again. :)

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Kevin Mack wrote:
Any news on whats coming out next yet?

Not quite yet! Stay tuned!

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Alayern wrote:
Authors: Are there any technical books about writing (punctuation, style grammar, the business side) that you believe helped you significantly as a writer?

Far and away the most useful to me was The Complete Idiot's Guide to Publishing Science Fiction, by an at-the-time-not-super-famous Cory Doctorow. I also remember finding a lot of great inspiration and important things to consider in Stephen King's On Writing and Orson Scott Card's How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy.

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Chris A Jackson wrote:
DM Mathpro wrote:
Chris A Jackson wrote:
DM Mathpro wrote:
Another question for Mr. Jackson(slow day at work): Would you be surprised if you saw Pirates Honor/Promise/Prophecy fan fiction pop up on the internet?
Not really... I would also not be offended if someone chose to write some... Why, did you find some?
No but all through my listening to Pirates Prophecy my muse was striking to write some. Not sure what the rules are for fan fiction containing Paizo owned characters though.

Might ask Sutter that question...

I love that audio also.

Folks are allowed to write all the fiction with our characters that they want, they just can't make money off it. Fan-fiction is totally great, and in fact both Wayfinder and Pathfinder Chrnoicler are communities dedicated to it!

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The forthcoming novel Liar's Bargain has a fair bit of Nirmathas/Molthune action: http://paizo.com/products/btpy9ip6?Pathfinder-Tales-Liars-Bargain

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Audiobooks totally count!

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DM Mathpro wrote:
If you guys were to see your novels turned into a movie who would you like to see play your main characters? Really interested in seeing Chris's response to this but its for anyone/everyone.

Naveen Andrews as Salim!

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GeraintElberion wrote:
(Valeros, for instance, has definitely regressed) sonce Zub left the line.

I'm actually really curious about this. Where did you feel Valeros was heading, such that you now feel he's regressed?

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Marco Massoudi wrote:

You did a great job there, James!

Same goes to Eric and Wes.

Since you "real Pathfinder writers" took over the comics, it is much better in terms of story and i have been noticing the accurate spellcasting since issue #1 of Hollow Mountain.

I hope there will be more?!

There will definitely be more. :D

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Luthorne wrote:

1) What are three of your favorite real world mythologies, and what do you like about them?

2) What are some of the first books you can remember reading as a kid?

3) Which do you like more, Triaxus in winter or Triaxus in summer?

I absolutely don't mind people throwing in their own thoughts. :)

1) Hmm... while I really like learning about new mythologies, I'd say that the ones I return most to are pretty classic, simply because they're what I could find information about when I was a kid.

Far and away, my favorite mythology is Judeo-Christian, especially the oldest-school versions... there's just something about angelic rebellion, the book of revelations, and the speech patterns we've all internalized from the scripture that really appeals to me. Everything about it just feels really creepy to me. (Ironically, the parts involving Jesus are the ones that interest me the least... I'm most intrigued by the old stories in which humans are basically just pawns for giant unforgiving forces.)

After that... I think Norse mythology is really cool, just because the gods are all kind of jerks who don't really care about humanity. And while Greek/Roman mythology is interesting and I've read a ton about it over the years, I'm going to have to give the third spot to Egyptian mythology, for simply having awesome aesthetics in their art :D

2) If you want to go waaaay back, probably IF I RAN THE CIRCUS by Dr. Seuss. But in terms of novels... I loved the Enchanted Forest Chronicles by Patricia C. Wrede, Jurassic Park, the Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg... those were all around 2nd or 3rd grade, I believe.

3) Triaxus in summer, probably. If only because I've already written about Triaxus in winter, and thus it holds more unknowns. :) But also, summer allows a much larger variety of environments, rather than having everything snowed over constantly, and it's cool to have that palette to play with. (That said, I already set it in winter, so clearly I like that version as well!)

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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

They're not gray, they're distinguished...

You @#$%.

We're all identifiable by our little writing tics. Jacobs EMPHASIZES in ALL CAPS, Jason says "a host of," I mention Wes's gray hair... It's just part of our individual charm.

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Dragon78 wrote:
What kind of life forms could live on a tidally lock planet near a black hole?

I feel like Luthorne has probably got you covered there—he's put more thought into the idea than I have. :)

That said, I agree that, presuming the nearest start is far away, you'd have creatures that are getting their energy primarily from tidal heating, and thus looking to things like deep-ocean creatures around geothermal events is a really good start, rather than the sorts of photosynthesis-dependent creatures we're all used to.

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Luthorne wrote:

Yeah, but Ringworld was artificially created...though artifically created worlds are also pretty awesome.

And obviously, death matches are always the kindest option.

So, how would you feel about a planet that was flung away from its original host star due to an unstable orbit, wound up finding a black hole and managing to enter a stable orbit around it, and tidal heating from the insane gravity of the black hole heated its interior enough to melt its oceans and result in life thanks to thermal vents from geothermic activity? I know, insanely unlikely, maybe even impossible, but! I-it's cool, right?

APPROVED!

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ulgulanoth wrote:
James, what do you think of the idea that each galaxy has a different planner cosmology?

In Pathfinder we assume that all the galaxies are part of the same cosmology, but I think the opposite approach is just as interesting! It lets you tell some really weird, interesting stories that the consistent approach doesn't.

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Luthorne wrote:

Have you heard about torus-shaped planets? We haven't found any yet, but apparently the math suggests that if a planet had enough spin, to provide the centrifigal force to balance out the gravity, hypothetically it could form into a torus rather than a globe. I'd heard about it a bit back, but If Planets Were Donuts by Artifexian had me intrigued in it as a possibility for a location, given the speculation involved. Of course, it is kind of unlikely, but it's fun to think about.

I also liked Other Planetary Systems and If Earth Had Rings by the same individual. Anyways, thought of you thanks to all the love you gave Distant Worlds and thought you might be interested in viewing the videos, even if they lean towards hard science...I certainly found it interesting to consider. A setting with a hot jupiter that has three to five habitable moons (possibly even one of them being a toroid) seems particularly fascinating to me, and reminds me of Bretheda in particular...a shame we probably won't get any more information anytime soon about it, but I understand most people are more interested in Golarion.

Now that that's done, on with the questions!

1) So, what do you think about the notion of a toroid planet with life on it in a fantasy or science fiction setting? Interesting, or just too weird/silly?

2) If you were told by your superiors you could start work - with the assistance of others, of course - on a hardcover on par with the Inner Sea World Guide to cover any one of the planets in Golarion's system - excluding Golarion, naturally - as a setting in its own right, which planet would you pick, and who would be some of the people you'd most want to help you work on it? Focusing on just a part of one of the worlds is fine...

1) Seems awesome to me! And hey, we've already had Ringworld and things around in the genre for a long time, so people are probably used to it.

2) Oh man! This is a hard one. Off the top of my head, I think I'd be choosing between Verces, Triaxus, Akiton, and Castrovel. In the end, though, I think Triaxus is probably the best standalone setting, just because of the dragon-riding!

In terms of who I'd want working with me—honestly, everyone in the editorial department is here because they have awesome ideas. Plus picking just a few publicly would be a pretty jerky thing for me to do. So instead, maybe I'd just have them all fight to the death to see who's most passionate about the project, and decide that way. That's kinder, right?

3) Black holes ('cause duh), tidally locked worlds, tidally heated worlds.

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DubiousYak wrote:

I had listened to another PF Tales Novel and was disappointed.

This was free though so I have it a try, and I am glad I did. I promptly bought Redemption Engine.

Mr. Sutter, is it just me or do you like the planar weird?

I felt it strong enough that these books made me want to go back and play Planescape: Torment.

Glad you liked it! And I *love* the planar weird—it's pretty much the whole reason for Salim's existence. "What would be a cool character that would let me show off the planes?" is the question that got the ball rolling on those books. :)

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Haladir wrote:

I bolded the things in the poem that might be creatures of some sort...

Jabberwocky
by Lewis Carroll

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogroves
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch!
Beware the Jub-Jub Bird and shun
The furmious Bandersnatch!"

He took his vorpal sword in hand,
Long time the manxome foe he sought.
Then rested he by the Tum-Tum Tree,
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tugley wood
And burbled as it came!

One! Two! One! Two! And trough! And Through!
The vorpal blade went 'snicker-snack!'
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

"And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
Oh, frabjous day! Callou! Callay!"
He chortled in his joy.

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe.
All mimsy were the borogroves
And the mome raths outgrabe.

(Recited from memory... I may have gotten a bit of that wrong.)

BTW, this poem is the original source of the term "vorpal sword."

Gary Gygax was a big fan of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass, hence the inclusion of the vorpal sword magic item in the original D&D game.

(Also see the AD&D modules EX1: Dungeonland and EX2: The Land Beyond the Magic Mirror.)

The jubjub bird and bandersnatch are indeed Tane, and have already been statted in the Bestiaries!

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