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An obscure creature would be DC 15+CR, so even a CR 1/2 creature that only appears in distant lands would be beyond the scope of an untrained Knowledge check.
If dragons are common in an area, it would be DC 5+CR, which again, going by my previous posts, knowing things about the dragons in general could go off of the youngest versions CR. Apply that knowledge to older dragons at your own risk.
Really it would be more based on frequency of encounter and how often people survive encounters.
If the tarrasque only shows up every 300 years and kills all witnesses, you're not going to have a lot of detailed information. If orcs show up ever 3 years to raid, but are driven back (lots of survivors to tell the tale) information is a lot easier to come by.
It's an abstraction, but a lot of the game system is based around the concept that things get harder as you go up in levels, otherwise success is too automatic and uninteresting. Knowledge check DCs increase because that's how the game models reality, things get harder as you progress. If monster DC's decrease, than there's less incentive to increase your ranks in Knowledge skills, which is counter to the core philosophy of the game's design.
I suppose to add where/why I learned...
I live in Minnesota, lots of lakes. My earliest memory as a child (so early it feels more like a dream) is riding in a canoe at age 3 during a camping trip. Canoe trips have been a pretty regular occurrence throughout my life. My grandparents owned a cabin on a lake. I was in the Navy for 7 years. I still take solo canoe trips where I don't see another human for days at a time, so knowing how to swim is a survival skill in case of emergency.
I've always spent a lot of time on/near water.
Two years ago I taught my friends kid to swim, she was 5. We went once a week for 9 weeks. She started off being completely afraid of the water, by the end she was fine in water over her head and if she had something to hold onto, she could pull herself to the bottom in 8ft water and collect rocks. I'm not good enough to teach her good mechanics, I just wanted her to be comfortable in water.
Pros/Cons of gaming at conventions
Cons (yay puns)
Nothing is guaranteed. If you are having an unpleasant experience, don't be afraid to walk away, you are not obligated to waste your time at a convention. Also, if you paid money for a game, don't be shy about asking for your money back. Don't be a jerk about it, but or demand it necessarily, but it never hurts to try. If you're new to gaming or returning after a long absence, cons are a great way to learn (or relearn) game systems. There are an abundance of people to explain the game and people who are running demonstration scenarios actually expect to have to explain the game, so they're more than happy to walk you through it.
I love cons. I've had great games with people I didn't know and will probably never meet again.
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
It is counter-intuitive to make it harder to know stuff about a famous 20th level hero with vast experience than it is to know stuff about a random 1st level commoner who hasn't done anything remarkable in his life.
The first level commoner is more likely to have nothing out of the ordinary about him.
The 20th level hero will have strange stories and rumors told about him, many of which aren't true.
I agree, a "have I heard of him" check would be pretty easy and common knowledge should be a lot lower. Specific and detailed information that is TRUE might be difficult to obtain though.
Fake Healer wrote:
More broadly, this is a noble sentiment, but when you boil it down it becomes a plea for everyone "to just get along", or worse, becomes reason to try to police peoples thoughts and words.
There are people who are being mistreated because of their race. Not everywhere and not everyone, but it is happening. I don't think just sitting around and hoping that people start being nice to each other is enough.
Poverty is a primary problem for minority communities. One of the best ways to mitigate poverty is through employment and education. Show me a better program to increase both of those specifically for minorities and I will throw my support behind that. Affirmative action is flawed and creates additional problems, but you won't convince me that politely asking people to be nice to each other is a better solution.
Fake Healer wrote:
Would you consider a college education the modern equivalent of "teach a man to fish"? Or are you suggesting we should only give black people jobs on boats?
So you know, this is a completely false claim.
Work places are not REQUIRED to have black people employed. In fact there are a lot of business that don't have black people employed. Work places aren't REQUIRED to have an Affirmative Action plan. Several states, Washington, Michigan and California even have a legal ban against affirmative action.
Don't spread lies.
People buy a product from a company like Paizo because they have a reputation for putting out solid products. Post-sales product support is also very important. Paizo has a system for handling certain aspects of post-sales product support called the FAQ system. It is not unreasonable for people to expect it to work.
It does work. It produces results fairly often. SKR linked multiple occasions it has worked just in the past few weeks.
Now we're just quibbling over how much and how often is enough.
If we accept that not all questions will be answered, that there are just too many, than someone one whose pet question goes unanswered will always view the system as not operating sufficiently.
Since there will always be that question and therefore that person, should we declare them the arbiter of when the system is or isn't working?
Lets say blue dragon:
DC 13 to know that blues usually breath lightning
I think it's fine to check to lower monster, you're just not getting a chance for specific info regarding the one you're dealing with. Since it isn't specific, it may or may not be helpful. This doesn't bother me, but I use tiered skill DC's quite regularly. If a player wants to achieve something I state the DC, if I sense hesitation, I often offer a lesser success with a lower DC (or higher success with higher DC if I think they aren't being very ambitious). It's their choice which they go for, but they choose prior to the roll.
Using Knowledge for individuals seems perfectly reasonable to me. Knowledge (Local) works for most humanoids, but for an individual it would only work if they're from, reside in or have notable events with the appropriate (Local).
Andrew R wrote:
No, you won't. Which is my point, but you can't seem to grasp this, because instead of addressing my point, you make up your own and address that. Like you just did. Twice. In a row.
Andrew R wrote:
No, the time for straight talk is past. You've taught me that straight talk is pointless and will be ignored. If you wanted to have an earnest conversation with me, you had plenty of opportunities over the past several years. I'm done putting effort into discussions with you.
If you look carefully though, you'll note I do put that effort in for other people though.
All you're interested in is the vapid talking points of cable news or talk radio. So that is how I will engage with you.
I'm more interested than you are apparently.
You want to pretend it doesn't exist, or if it does, it's all perpetrated against white people.
It's all black peoples fault. If they didn't make us enslave them, none of this would have happened.
That's what your mewling sounds like.
Edit: To add, you're repeatedly taught me you aren't interested in having a conversation. You just want to score points, so now I play the game you taught me.
Andrew R wrote:
Did you pick which one you want to be: Naive or Disingenuous?
Using the 20th level Dwarf Fighter as an example...
Assuming dwarves are common, it would be a DC 25 to know specific things about that individual. If you only wanted to know about dwarves in general, it would be DC 5.
For instance, you could ask "How does the dwarven ability Stonecunning work?" DC 5
But if you wanted to know if the Dwarf Fighter 20 in front of you had Stonecunning (or an alternate racial ability) that would be DC 25.
The Crusader wrote:
"Nothing" is something though. We just don't see it going on. What you're asking for is a change to the programming of the forums, but this change will most likely complicate things from a database standpoint, not simplify it. While it will present the poster with a warm fuzzy, it won't actually do anything to improve getting an answer. You're asking to spend resources on something that will achieve very little and be mostly meaningless.
Where as, we the customers spending our time to better understand the process and be patient takes zero of Paizo's resources and will actually be a more meaningful change to the process.
Andrew R wrote:
But people already have bonuses and penalties. So, asking people to pretend that there aren't is naive or disingenuous.
It's not theft, because it's part of the terms of your employment. By not taking your vacation days the only person you're stealing from is yourself.
More precisely, you are voluntarily working for less money than your employer is offering you. Now I don't know you, nor have I conducted an exhaustive research of your work habits, but odds are you are also lowering your overall productivity by not taking vacation time. Research shows that breaks, both short ones during the day and longer ones like vacations, increase productivity more than the productivity lost due to inactivity. The effectiveness of work done also increases.
In the 1920's, Henry Ford reduced the work week at his plants from 6 days to 5 and found productivity actually went up, even though they were operating for 8 hours less per week.
National University of Singapore found that people who spent less than 20% of their time online were 9% more productive than people who didn't go online during work hours at all. Cat videos can literally improve job performance.
The Crusader wrote:
Disclaimer: I don't work at Paizo, so I don't exactly know how their system works. But I've worked with databases, forum management and records before, so I feel like I can guess.
If you had admin access to the forums, you could pull up a list of posts where the FAQ button has been pressed. You would then be able to click the link and read the post doing one of the following:
I put a * by the nothing, because that still carries with it certain automatic actions. If you don't change the tag, it stays in the queue. That means if you pull up a report of all the posts with the FAQ button pressed, it's still there, it doesn't go away. That list is the pending list.
This isn't like a restaurant, buying a copy of the book does not entitle you to have any and all questions answered in an official capacity. It is good customer service and community building to answer as many as possible, but they don't make money directly from answering forums posts. They make money by writing and printing books. Making that money then affords them some resources to spend on extra customer service and community building, like answering FAQ posts. Since there are many more FAQ posts than resources to answer them, they have to prioritize, which means some will go unanswered, possibly for years or even forever.
They could hire more people to handle FAQ posts, but that would eat into the money they make from the books, but they don't really make that much money. Paizo hasn't released financials, but the biggest RPG publisher that I've seen release them was Evil Hat, who's owner cleared about $60,000k last year, from a little under $1,000,000 in gross revenue. That's a decent sized business with a pretty small pay check for the top person involved. Hiring additional staff to answer FAQ posts for Paizo would mean either paying all their employees less (making it harder to retain good employees) or raising the prices of their books (which could result in fewer books sold).
You're right, you're not getting a full, constant access pass on the FAQ process. They have explained it and unfortunately we're going to have to live with it. The staff does communicate with us, quite regularly and while the updates would be appreciated, it would mean less time spent on more actionable communication, like actually answering a FAQ.
There isn't going to be a countdown timer on when a post will most likely be answered. It might happen, it might not. It all depends on the priorities that the staff sets, which can change and probably do quite often as questions come to light.
My point is you can make the check at any time. Regardless of whether you see the monster right now or not.
If you're making a check against a monster that isn't in the current combat, that information might not be relevant, but the game doesn't require you to do things relevant to the threat in front of you (it certainly encourages it with the threat of death though).
The Crusader wrote:
The original tag already means "under consideration".
I agree, there's racism present in this country and some of it is directed at Asians.
You've accused people in this thread of supporting that racism. Please bold where you think that specifically happened.
I particularly enjoyed the early SG-1 seasons. I enjoy a well done series without a long, over-arching plot, but stand alone episodes that work well individually while also peeling back layers on the characters to help form the picture of the whole.
SGU was good, it took too long to find it's feet though and that killed it. The first 6 episodes just failed to draw any new people in or keep people interested. I loved putting the characters in an extremely alien location, but using established technology in the overall series to maintain that connection to home and exploring the character's humanity in depth in a familiar setting as well.
Canada is much nicer than Russia as far as neighbors go.
So, if I understand the attitudes I've seen expressed in the thread, just like the US in general, EVERYONE wants to discriminate against anyone who isn't African American or white?
Please bold where someone stated that in this thread. Because I haven't noticed it.
Honestly at this point, it seems like you're fighting a battle, but that battle isn't with anyone here. It's with people doing bad things in other places, but since they aren't here, you're battling with the people who are.
You don't want to talk to the people here, you want to talk at them.
IT keeps up with the mantra of, hey, let's stop comparing X to Y insomuch as who has it worse off, and my point is that's the only way you're going to be able to get an idea of the differences in experiences between ethnic minorities: statistical comparison.
There's a difference between analyzing the differences in an attempt to better understand and comparing them in a pissing contest of who is worse off in an effort to end programs that might be benefiting certain groups.
I'm not opposed to examining the situation of Asian-Americans and how they're being discriminated against. Comparing them to other minorities in an attempt to note differences and how programs might affect them different is useful. Comparing them in an attempt to shut down conversation about other minorities is not.
No one is denying that there is discrimination.
You've specifically made the claim that the 14th Amendment doesn't apply to people of Asian ethnicities. I'm asking you to back up that claim.
For the steak lovers and those in the Minneapolis area:
I went to Burch this weekend, normally a bit out of my price range, but it was a bachelor party for a friend, so I splurged. I tried some domestic wagyu beef. It was good. Very good. The price wasn't ridiculous, but it was high. It was very well marbled, tender and excellent flavor.
My usual thought while eating steak at a restaurant did happen though... "I could have cooked it better". They used a fairly standard method, using the high heat to cook it to the desired temp. And they achieved a very nice medium rare, but I just prefer the reverse sear method (described in a previous post).
I also had risotto (grilled lemon, marscapone and broccoli) and a brussels sprout salad (frisee, pancetta, chevre and sherry vinaigrette), but unlike the steak, I don't think I could have made those better.
Read some of Role-Playing Mastery by Gygax. I get the distinct impression that the PC is really just a vehicle/representation of the player. The player is playing the game, and based on the myriad pieces of advice, he is advising the players actions and how to increase their chances of success, both in the process of playing the game (overcoming challenges) and the spirit of playing the game (telling a story). There's even a whole chapter on Tactical Mastery, and it's directed at the player, not the character.
I agree, this wasn't/isn't the only way to play, but it was a commonly accepted one and one that was valued by the creator of the game.
Did you know, Asians and Native Americans were actually legally able to be discriminated against by some government laws...in a much more severe manner. It's illegal to do this with African Americans...the 14th applies. These constitutional rights apparently do not apply evenly though...for as I said, in some governmental forms, applications, rights, and benefits...Asians are allowed to legally be discriminated against as are Native Americans.
The California Supreme Court disagrees with you. Sei Fujii v State of California
In the light of the foregoing discussion, we have concluded that the constitutional theories upon which the Porterfield case was based are today without support and must be abandoned. [7c] The California Alien Land Law is obviously designed and administered as an instrument for effectuating 738*738 racial discrimination, and the most searching examination discloses no circumstances justifying classification on that basis. There is nothing to indicate that those alien residents who are racially ineligible for citizenship possess characteristics which are dangerous to the legitimate interests of the state, or that they, as a class, might use the land for purposes injurious to public morals, safety or welfare. Accordingly, we hold that the alien land law is invalid as in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
As you can see in the last sentence, the 14th Amendment is specifically interpreted to apply to people of Asian origin.