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Something more interesting than deflategate:
The Atlanta Falcons got a little over $1 million over the course of 4 years, for doing things like giving free tickets, featuring service members on the jumbotron and making announcements that thanked service members for their service.
Yes, my last post was COMPLETELY an invitation for you to continue to pass judgement on me and my friends, even though you have virtually no context with which to do so. Seriously, you're missing SO MANY DETAILS. And I'm not sharing them. So again, I ask you to stop.
That aspect of the story is not relevant to what is currently being discussed. The point is that bad DMPC's DO exist. They have occurred often enough for me that we have a code word for it. That is the relevant piece of information you should latch on to. I have no interest in you dissecting my groups interactions or passing judgement on me and my friends.
Vincent Takeda wrote:
1. Your "definition" of DMPC is pointless, because it's essentially vague to the point of meaninglessness. In addition, it runs counter to the concept expressed in literally dozens of posts in this thread. DMPC is not a term of quality, but rather purpose. Not all good NPC's are DMPC's (I know this, because I've both seen and played good NPC's that would not typically be called DMPC's) and not all DMPC's are good (I know because I've had games ruined by them).
2. Talking about verisimilitude is pointless. The line of demarcation for what is believable for one person is not the same as the next. Even similar concepts of believability will become radically different from one gaming table to the next due to small differences in RAI or house rules.
I've come to the belief that verisimilitude is a shield (maybe unwittingly) to defend ones viewpoint in an attempt to make it unassailable, even when it can be provably shown that something IS realistic (as in it has happened in the real world) but people refuse to allow it in their games.
I've dealt with enough bad DMPC's that several friends and I have a code word for when we're planning on turning on them and killing them.
DM Under The Bridge wrote:
AnalogyEver notice how rarely people consider themselves to be bad drivers? Yet, everyone complains about bad drivers and we've all seen them.
You're not thinking big enough.
He's got to be riding one of these.
@thejeff: not sure why you're bothering to argue with someone who identifies with MRA's. There's really not point. It took me a couple posts to remember that Arturius has taken some exceptionally sexist stances in previous threads.
Mythic Evil Lincoln wrote:
It's not your fault IMO. These boards have a bad culture surrounding attempts to actually come up with a definition of something that that might facilitate discussion of said thing.
As a player, I prefer no GMPC. If done well, I'd be fine with it, but I personally have not seen it done well.
As a GM, I have zero interest in doing it. I'd rather just give the players the resources to deal with challenges and not have to do it myself.
Currently I'm infatuated with a game called Blades in the Dark. It's a game about criminals running their organization within the underworld of a city. As a GM, I love it because it taxes me creatively, but there's virtually no mechanically fiddly bits for me to be concerned with. NPCs don't even have stats, all of my notes are entirely focused on who they are and their relation to the story. I also don't pick up dice either as GM in that game. I love it.
I still run a PF game, but I prefer to keep my stat bookkeeping to a minimum. I tend to not stat up NPC's (I keep some resources handy to grab stat blocks from) unless their stats come up in 2 different sessions. I'm definitely not running a GMPC.
1. Figure out why the cleric is attacking the city.
I would go with stealing a McGuffin. Something important and powerful that if it fell into the wrong hands... etc, etc. The value of this is it allows the cleric to win the encounter more easily. He doesn't need to destroy the city or everyone in it, that comes later. Right now he just needs this one thing and he'll leave.
2. Figure out why the cleric can't destroy the city.
Yes he can attack and do severe damage, but eventually he'll be stopped or fail for some reason. Maybe the Paladin has a group of old adventuring buddies who will come to finish the job and defend the city. Maybe the city is guarded by angels, but it takes time for them to show up. Whatever it is, it'll show up soon, but it won't be the first responder, that's the Paladin.
3. Figure out why someone else doesn't chase the cleric to end him.
This powerful bad guy just stole something important, killed dozens or hundreds of people and could still cause havoc. You need a reason why the PC's are getting involved and not whoever is powerful enough to protect the city, or some other experienced group of adventurers. Obviously the story is about the PC's, but an in game reason for why helps.
Thanks for the clarification, I'll drop it.
Except individuals will still gamble on not getting caught. Remember, 97% of the players in the NFL do NOT win the championship each year. Probably 50% of them don't really even have a shot at winning. They play because they're paid to and as long as the pay checks are big, people will take big risks to get those pay checks, damn the consequences.
In addition, I'm specifically addressing game forfeiture, it's impractical in the NFL. Replaying games, or scheduling extra games just isn't practical, nor would it be desired, unless absolutely necessary. Remember, this year the AFC Championship, BOTH teams cheated (one under inflated their footballs, the other had confirmed PED users). That means either canceling the Super Bowl, or playing a second AFC Championship (with the teams that lost in the prior round of playoffs).
The Ravens have had 5 (including one this year) PED suspensions the past 5 years.
Oh, and the Broncos had 2 suspensions for PED use this year, plus one last year too.
So, in the AFC, the top 4 teams in the playoffs ALL had some form of cheating happen this year. ALL OF THEM.
I'm not saying this to excuse the cheating. I'm just pointing out that with 53 players per team (46 allowed to dress for the game) and with the stakes being so high for making it onto those teams, players are going to take risks, that includes breaking the rules. It's in their own interests to do it because they'll potentially earn millions of dollars before they're caught.
The best method really is to fine/suspend them and move on. If a problem is endemic to a team, the team gets fined and loses draft picks.
This isn't life or death. It's entertainment. While I think efforts should continue to make it as moral and ethical as possible, the consequences of moral and ethical violations are pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things. Sometimes they're even trivial within the context of football.
I'm just tired of people acting like Tom Brady is some kind of heinous sinner, while a safety they've never heard of doesn't even deserve to be talked about. Either you hate cheaters, or you don't and you're just pretending to because it suits your purposes.
Why are you quoting my post and talking about things that have nothing to do with my post? Seriously, it's like you're TRYING to take things out of context and cherry pick things to disagree with.
Literally everything you said you disagree with about this method is already addressed in the context that you didn't quote.
His suspension was announced Feb 11th, so he was tested prior to that. It also isn't his first suspension, he's a repeat offender. It wasn't even his first suspension in the last 365 days. He also wasn't the only Colt player suspended this year.
Still, my primary point... if you're going to take a moral outrage stance on the under inflated ball purely because it's cheating (regardless of it's actual effect) you better apply your moral outrage to ALL cheating, which includes PEDs.
Since you keep coming up with defenses for the PEDs, you clearly are not applying your moral outrage to ALL cheating, making your moral outrage bereft of any real substance.
Lastly, in an individual sport, such as boxing, cycling (technically there are teams, but teams aren't awarded victories, individuals are), punishing the individual by removing victories makes sense. In team sports, unless the cheating is systemic and organized by the team as a whole, it's more effective to punish individuals. If you punish the team for individual cheating, then when an individual on each team cheats, you HAVE to make the determination of which cheating was more severe. Individual punishments mean you can mete out penalties on a per case basis allowing you to hit both offenders equally hard if necessary.
If you want to make the claim that your moral outrage is without bias, you need to apply it more evenly in your comments. So far, you are not.
There's actually a lot of not-so-subtle symbolism that's pretty pro-feminist.
Max fights the wives and Furiosa while chained to a servant of Immortan Joe. It isn't until he's freed from that chain that he can come to peace with the women. He's literally chained to the patriarchy.
Max literally washes blood off his face and hands with mother's milk.
The women don't just save themselves by destroying the patriarchy, they save the unwashed masses.
There are probably a few more examples I'm forgetting.
DM Under The Bridge wrote:
No doubt. Usually when we're doing something like this I insist on categories, not specifics. So, you can tell someone to play a martial, divine, nature-focused, or scoundrel (as examples, including but not limited to). In your example, Sarah could literally interpret any of those as a ranger, but that ranger might have a different focus from her typical one.
I prefer if the option presented is more of a theme, than a mechanical choice.
Epic Meepo wrote:
Well, if it's any consolation, Game of Thrones is the most pirated show from HBO, but it also has the highest DVD sales of any of their shows.
DM Under The Bridge wrote:
I don't allow players to tell other players what they should play. It is a bridge too far (release the firedrake upon them).
We actually do this some times, explicitly. Player A gets to tell Player B what to play (generally, Player B then gets to interpret and make it on their own). Then Player B gets to tell Player C what to play. So on and so forth, until it loops back to Player A.
It's created some interesting parties some times. The player gets veto authority and the picker is encouraged to push the player to something they haven't played, or at least not recently, definitely not whatever their last character role was.
Vod Canockers wrote:
You must have missed the part that a Colt player got popped on PED's on Feb 11th of this year. So, we know they can't prove it, because there's proof that it happened.
I can post some numbers for some defensive players if you like, you see it a lot with them. Particularly linebackers who get lots of sacks. If they test positive for PED's and get suspended, often times the next year their numbers drop off dramatically. Two high profile ones that come to mind are Shawn Merriman and Von Miller. Both saw roughly a 30% drop in their sacks and their forced fumbles basically disappeared. Both players were significant pieces of their team's defense, drastically influencing games.
The Seahawks led the league in PED suspensions the past few years. They often drop those players later on, who go to other teams and perform significantly worse.
While not football, we know PED's can greatly improve performance capability, Lance Armstrong being the poster boy.
Dollars to doughnuts, with increased scrutiny on the air pressure in the Brady's footballs, his completion % stays within 3 points this season.
It was a great action movie.
A great action movie needs a serviceable plot and dialogue that doesn't make you cringe (often). I cringed at a couple lines, but overall the plot was fine and the dialogue didn't make it worse.
My biggest criticism of the movie is the score. Crazy guitar guy was awesome. The drums were simple, unimaginative, but they worked. It was the movie score that sounded like it was ripped from a bad daytime soap and cranked up to 11 that annoyed me (okay, it wasn't THAT bad, but it was bad). They tried way too hard to punch through the emotion with a few soaring notes.
I'll concur. It's rare that I like horror movies as well.
Basically Event Horizon, The Shining and Evil Dead are the horror movies I like (in no particular order).
More to fantasy movies:
It's also my favorite of the Miyazaki films to date. The themes and grittiness of the movie compared to his other ones is what keeps me hooked. While it isn't super gritty, it feels like the stakes are real for the characters. I love the presentation of the story too, with the neutral arbiter, who isn't fully neutral, being our guide throughout.
Lyre of Building, plus spend a level raising your Perform (String Instruments) and you can get it done pretty fast. If you have a friendly bard, you'll have it done in no time.
Golems can clear rubble, plus they make good guards after the work is finished.
Planar Binding for elementals, or a Shaitan. Shaitan even have Knowledge (Engineering) so they'd be skilled labor, plus a ton of spells that deal with rocks.
I'm in a multiple-DM game right now (well technically hiatus, but coming back in a few months). Entirely homebrew, the other DM has been running the setting for a little over 10 years now. I was a player for a long time, but I had an idea for a campaign in this world, so we're running it together. Neither of us has a PC in the game though, we have 8 players in the group (though often only 5 show up) and that's plenty.
I have a buried thread somewhere about it if you're interested and can update with more details. We use a lot of google docs. I have a separate doc for each session, plus a doc for each important location (any large, plot important site that will be used for more than one session). Plus the players do a write up of each session and post it online (We use plot cards, you earn one for writing up the previous session).
Kirth Gersen wrote:
I like this method as well.
Can't remember who was telling me about it, but someone was in an Ars Magicka game where each player was also a GM, but they were responsible for different aspects of the game world. Basically each GM had their story line, and they swapped who was GM for the session based on what was going on and what they were dealing with.
Ars Magicka is also more troupe style inherently, with a lot of switching in and out of different characters.
Jason S wrote:
First time I've read that passage. I've dislike alignment for a much longer period.
I hate it because it's attempting to make concrete something that is difficult to even communicate from one person to another, concepts of morality and ethics, objectivity and subjectivity in a giant morass of words that will never, ever possibly even come close to providing an inkling of an estimation of what could be described as an approximate representation of someone else's thoughts on the matter.
I think we could come up with a way of defining and conveying those definitions for this complex concept, but the time and effort necessary for it to be largely free of errors would be too great.
That's why I hate alignment.
You don't address the PED point. That's cheating too. Are you suggesting that all teams with a known PED user have all of their wins vacated?
BTW, the Colt's can't claim to have zero PED users, seeing as Robert Mathis incurred a 4 game suspension for his violation of the PED rules in 2014. LaRon Landry was suspended early in the year for PED violations. He was released in February 11, 2015 (after the Super Bowl) and has been suspended AGAIN in 2015 for another 10 games (meaning he was benefiting from PED's during the Colts-Pats game).
PED's are cheating, the NFL rule book says so.
I suspect you're referencing Spygate. People really blow this out of proportion. To make it absolutely clear, if the Patriots had done the filming from a different location, it would have been completely legal.
I'm not sure if the rule has changed, but in 2006-2007, there were no rules against taping coaches during the game. The only rules were about locations of where cameras could be. The Patriots didn't violate the rule by filming coaches. They violated the rules because the camera was on the field.
It should also be noted that the Jets were caught doing the exact same thing the year prior during a playoff game.
There's a reason that coaches cover their mouths while calling plays. They can be, and are, filmed the whole time. Every coach does it (both covering their mouths AND filming their opponents).
In fact, teams are required by rule to share film. It's actually required that they film the game first though, otherwise it can't be shared.
Something else to consider, especially regarding the recording of the Rams practice allegations (which has been shown to be false), teams preparing for the Super Bowl are given a practice space that is completely riddled with recording devices. As an example, ESPN leaked part of a Bills practice prior to a Super Bowl against the Cowboys, because they kept their cameras rolling and broadcast the footage.
For reference, George Halas (owner/coach of the Chicago Bears) is known to have bugged locker rooms, phones and coaching booths. Yet I don't hear any one calling for all Bears titles during his tenure to be vacated.
Vod Canockers wrote:
Can you prove that no one on the Colts was cheating?
PED usage is considered cheating. Odds are, someone on every team is using something at some point. I'm not saying that cheating should be tolerated, but rather that punishments should be targeted at offending individuals.
Also, what scale does the cheating have to be for the team to get the loss? Are you suggesting ANY level of cheating? For example, should the league get rid of in game penalties and just go to automatic forfeiture?
Greg Williams admitted his role in bountygate. The NFL actually had quite a few details, dates, amounts, players, targets, etc. They also recovered e-mails from Michael Ornstein, sent to Sean Payton, that included his donation to the bounty pool.
Players from the Washington, DC team also came forward and described how Williams ran a similar program in 2004-2007 on that team. Matt Bowen, former player and now a journalist, corroborated the story and gave details.
Players from the Buffalo Bills also gave details of a similar program from Williams tenure there from 2001-2003.
Several people contradicted those stories, but the details are consistent enough that they seem pretty credible to me. Combined with e-mails and ledgers that the NFL discovered, the case in favor of it being made up seems pretty weak and relies entirely on witness accounts (while the case for the bounty's existence has both witnesses AND evidence).
I think the case against Brady isn't air-tight. It's pretty good though, those texts and phone call logs support the case well, though not perfectly. It probably happened and Brady probably knew about it. 4 games is harsh, but not ludicrous, I still think 2 would have been more appropriate.
I mean, Ray Rice only got a 2 game suspension.
I'm sure some people use GMPC's to great effect.
As a player and GM, I don't like them. Honestly, if I could find away to run games as a GM with zero stat blocks in front me, I'd rather do that (which I found a game on kickstarter recently that fulfills this greatly, literally no NPC stats).
If absolutely necessary, for a small game possibly, I might give the players a secondary character. I'd roleplay it when it came up, but they would run it in combat and be responsible for dividing loot between it and them. I'm much more likely to pick a game system that doesn't require this secondary character though (like 13th Age).
It hasn't really been developed, mostly because I think the wearable device seems awkward, but this guy made some pretty cool things... over 6 years ago.
He was impatient to wait for the iPad, so he made his own tablet out of a piece of paper.
In my games, I let PC's run away any time they want. I've told them though, that when they do, something important and bad will happen, representing a campaign level setback (the severity of which is determined by how important/difficult the encounter was). To successfully run away, the players must be unanimous in their decision. Seeing as there are usually 6+ players present, that's often harder than it sounds.
Reading this thread, I may introduce an inverse rule of this. Bad guys can run away automatically (maybe 1 round of actions/attacks from the players to try to stop it), but if I do that, the PC's score some kind of campaign level advantage. Like they know enough about the villains next move to preempt it entirely if they choose.
Well, it is SF.
It does deal with the concept of transitioning, defining people by gender roles and how some people change gender roles at different periods of their life. It's not a 1 for 1 perfect realization of a transgender person's life, but rather taking some of the concepts present in that person's life and applying them to a SF story and building an entire world and culture around those concepts.
Analogies and metaphors are not perfect representations. Otherwise we would call them perfect representations, not analogies and metaphors.
The book also appears on both lists that you linked.
This isn't a bad way to go.
Bad accident, he lost some internal organs. He created a device using necromancy that keeps him alive. It could be permanently solved by a Regeneration spell, but like many old-crotchety men, he doesn't want to go see the doctor and is satisfied with his magical duct tape approach.
In the mean time, his ailment can be delayed by magical spells. A Cure Light Wounds doesn't solve the problem, but it alleviates it for... an hour. Then he needs another CLW. Maybe a Lesser Restoration works for 2 hours and Restoration works for a whole 12 hours. Now the party has to go get the device back while dragging the wizard along and managing their resources to keep up alive until it can be recovered.
One of the few books I've read that included trans people was The Left Hand of Darkness.
I recommend it highly, purely because it's a good book. It also won both the Hugo and Nebula awards for the year it was published. It's also the #3 SF book of all time according to Locus magazine.
I agree, a 2 game suspension would be appropriate. That would be the same as a first punishment for PED usage, which is what I would compare this issue to. Lowered PSI on the ball has probably the same effect on the game (or less) than people taking performance-enhancing drugs.
On a semi-related note, I watched the "I Hate Christian Laettner" 30 for 30 doc, it was good. A lot of people have a similar hatred (though clearly not as many or as deeply) for Tom Brady.
I will laugh if Goodell tries to appease public outcry with a harsher sentence to "make an example of him" and it later gets overturned.
Freehold DM wrote:
I'm guessing the practice is still in place. NYPD forums, officers discussing details of how soon after joining the department you can start on paid detail and other questions someone has about it, in 2013.
There was a bill in the NY state assembly a couple years ago (after the Barney's and Macy's racial profiling news cycle in 2013) that would have put limitations and required greater reporting from the Paid Detail Unit, but it never passed as far as I can tell.
Freehold DM wrote:
And yes whedon steals from anime on the regular.
I don't care. All great art is stolen IMO. Stealing ideas from other people I have no problem with, only in the execution of what was stolen.
I have the same opinion on game design.
Stealing/borrowing ideas for creative efforts is one of the core methods of being creative. It's what you do with what you steal that matters, not whether you stole it or not.
Actually a lot of cops do moonlight. As far as I'm aware, no city provides patrol officers to places like liquor stores and bars. Uniformed officers are hired by the establishment in their off-hours to provide security. Because they wear their uniform they are still bound by all rules of the police department, but it isn't time paid by the city. I don't know how common this is everywhere, but here in south Minneapolis I see quite a few of them doing this, mostly liquor stores.