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I definitely need to get a copy.

Let's see, in no particular order:

Mystara
Scarred Lands
Neo-Exodus
Golarion
Forgotten Realms (Pre-4th Ed.)
Dragonlance
Greyhawk
Ravenloft
Dark Sun
Thieves' World
Freeport

Others:
Traveller
Star-Frontiers
Champions

Charles Evans 25 wrote:

Hmm. I wonder if something like this could be run for a short trial period, to see if it worked, or caused too much trouble?... :-k

See my thought is "CharOp" shouldn't just be the numbers. "Optimizing" a character, a person, should be about helping to completely flesh out an idea for use in a "real world" setting like Galorian. The story behind the feats is just as important as the feats chosen. I think welcoming both types of help improves the game as a whole. It helps those good at the numbers but not at the story learn to be better role players, and it helps those that are great at the role playing become better roll players.

The Golarion setting is definitely going to get some attention from me, but I'm also tempted to apply the PF rules to the Forgotten Realms, Scarred Lands, Freeport, Thieves World and someday, NeoExodus.

It's an epic setting, prone to world-changing apocalypses (apocalypi?)

Another possibility is the "1987" version of Mazes & Minotaurs, which purports to model 1st Edition D&D along ancient Greek mythology lines rather than Lord of the Rings.

Back on topic, I would like to see Paizo expand on the other prestige class characters as Iconics. You have bad A illustrations, why not use em regularly (Duelist please).

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My favorite player character was a witch from that issue. (Yes, the article has witches as NPC's, but the me and the DM decided to try a witch PC). She hailed from Thentia in the Forgotten Realms, revered Mystra, and I took her from 1st level to about the 21st level.

I think Unorthodox Witches from Le Games might also fit the OP's criteria.

Iron Sentinel wrote:

FabesMinis wrote:

Cool, I was thinking of going Norse with it, so that would work.

Interesting choice. BTW, there is a link for a Viking themed cleric, the Northern Godi, that can also employ rune magic (though gaining runic powers comes at some personal cost) at The S&W Companion: Resources.

Gabra (one of the PCs) is a Godi. I leapt on that when I found it and it was one of the inspirations for the game.

It might be fun for Wayfinder, or other 3rd party Pathfinder products, to create '13th Iconics,' so to speak.

A Wayfinder 'iconic party' consisting of;

Brand the Wizard,

Hazhi-Awass, Cleric of Pharasma,

Kem-Kepi, Tomb Raider

and either Tarlan the Monk or Ka'kara Furyheart, the Barbarian in the Fighter role would be pretty sexy.

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I agree. I could see Set's ideas as part of a Pathfinder Companion on Geb, or even unfolding as part of an Adventure Path.

How about Gamma World? It's an oldie but a goodie. You could probably dig it up on Amazon, used.

If you have your 3e FR books, then just let your imagination flow.

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I have Centurion, Interceptor and Leviathan, but I have yet to play them.

As for Krome's specifications, I know that SteamPower Publishing has a few d20 books like Fast Movers (fighter combat) and the Battlefield Handbook, that might be worth checking out.

Cool, I was thinking of going Norse with it, so that would work.

I love NeoExodus, so I'll be looking forward to this.

Please stop back and share once you've had a go at it.

With that said, I still want to give the other retro-clone stuff a look-see. Of course, if there is anyone out there who lives in my neck of the woods (i.e. near Boston, MA) who would like to partake of some "old-school" D&D goodness, then that be cool.

In case anyone needs more information, try here:

Boardgame Geek-Strategy & Tactics

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Perhaps obtaining a few individual back issues intead of a year-long subscription might be a better option. Is there a particular military history topic (or topics) that you like? Moreover, consider the fact that Decision Games also publishes another magazine with a wargame, World at War, which focuses on WWII.

Other, it can be Chess to the wonderfully subtle Go. Of course, being a board wargamer with numerous games, it could be Advanced Tactical System one month, and Federation Commander in the next month.

Yes, each issue comes with a wargame. I used to subscribe, and as such, I have a fair number of issue games. I still pick up the "newstand edition" (the version without a game) from time to time.

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I think it has a lot of potential. Just like NSpicer's earlier ideas, I think it could make for an awesome Adventure Path.

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I recently ordered a print copy of S&W, and a few other related items from Amazon. I'll likely be getting some OSRIC stuff later on this year, but I'm also interested in knowing more about LL and how it compares to other retro-clones.

interesting stuff about "surrogate source in Aroden's absence".

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Thanks. I want to get a good idea of what S&W is all about. I'm also going to download some of the 0D&D stuff from the Dragonsfoot site you mentioned.

As for 1st Edition, I'll be taking a look at OSRIC and after that, maybe even Labyrinth Lord as well as Mazes and Minotaurs.

Sorry for the temporary threadjack--the Taldor Companion is awesome, and I enjoyed it completely. I started writing a novel based in Taldor, just because I liked this sourcebook so much! It (my novel) will probably never see print, but at least I can read and enjoy it.

Swords and Wizardry from Mythmere supports 1st and Basic. I haven't seen any endorsements though.

Is there a prize for being the biggest jerk? If so, you could just award it to me and not bother with any sort of statistical analysis.

Yes - it is a growing community of first edition gamers using either the actual first edition, or some of the following alternatives:

>OSRICTM is the primary work I have been discussing and studying these past few weeks. Stuart Marshall and Matthew Finch have done one hell of a job. OSRIC 2.0 IS A FIVE-STAR RPG BOOK IMHO. It includes a monster manual and huge spell collection - and I have yet to see where it deviates in any significant way from 1e. Very fast play - total retro-clone at its very best.
>Swords and WizardryTM is the particular work of Matthew Finch and belongs to Mythmere Games. I really liked reading his recent White Box edition. What a smart guy.... if anyone hasn't read Matthew's Primer for Old School Gaming, then please go do so today!

OSRIC is 1E with errata, clarifications and a facelift.

OK that does it, I've convinced myself to inflict 2e on my gaming group! Actually I may inflict 2e and the entire Dragonlance campaign on them...

:)

LH Executioner Aberzombie wrote:

Lord President Moorluck wrote:

Lord High Executioner Aberzombie (Death,Undeath)

Sweet! I get to execute people! And then I get to bring them back as blasphemous mockeries of all that live!

** spoiler omitted **

Blasphemous mockeries of life, yes. And once my Undead Work-Force initiative passes, they will become PRODUCTIVE mockeries of life, all the jobs that have been deemed to dangerous for the living will be performed by your undead minions, think of underwater demolitions, Haz-Mat disposal, and numerous other hazardous professions as their niche. The revenue raised by them will be used by Lord Secretary War-Bucks to help fund Supreme First Lady Solnes' Free Healing Domain Care Plan, I see this as a win-win.

I should also post the work I've done converting the 4E pantheon to Pathfinder.

Dragonsfoot is my favorite site for vintage AD&D gaming!
This place is chock full of gaming goodness! In fact, I'm playing in a 2nd edition game right now and loving it, plus I'm considering running a 2E game in the fall. Most of my players are old timers like me and we still love 1st and 2nd editions.

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Great answer!

A while back (2nd Ed AD&D), I was playing a paladin in a game where the main theme was supposed to be defeating the "bandit" army secretly controlled by the most powerful noble in the land (who was using it to take over the kingdom). After an adventure or two, defeating some low-mid level fiends peripheral to the main plot and rescuing a holy relic (thought to be a minor holy item), the party stopped through a village on their way to warn the king that some of the kingdom's nobles were involved with the "bandits." That's when the villagers told the party that they couldn't afford to resupply the party since a tribute collection force from the "bandits" was due that day.

My paladin gave his tithe and remaining wealth to the party cleric to donate to the paladin's church and told the rest of the party to continue on to warn the king. He then rode down the road the other way to confront the tribute collectors alone. He took down a squad or two of the "bandits" by himself and the relic (which was still in his possession) took out the tribute collection force's leadership and several hundred troops when his equipment was examined. He didn't save the village from having to pay tribute, but he did weaken and delay the "bandits" while the rest of the party got the warning to the king. "Lawful Stupid?" Maybe, but then Leonidas, Roland, and the troops at The Alamo could be considered in the same light. Did the paladin's death serve the greater good, instead of just his self interest? Definitely, which is why I made the decision, even knowing that it was a deliberate "moral dilemma."

I recently did some research (this year) with some help from the PAIZO community. I've become quite versed in the retro-clones and the first edition movement, which is on the rise.

P.s. Please let me know if you have any more questions.... (My knowledge check on this at the moment is running at +12) lol

I'm curious if Green Ronin will be publishing adventures for W&W.

I have a question: does anyone have an appetite to buy 1e modules? Either: 1) classic in-print 1e TSR modules (*blows dust off covers*) 2) New 1e retoro-clone modules

Just wondering what the interest level was out there?

Stefan Hill wrote:

Epic Meepo wrote:

Well, there's OSRIC, which is essentially an unofficial reprint of 1st edition AD&D. Though I don't know if it's endorsed by any TSR alumni.

I recommend this one due to the price of $zero.

Oh, and the one book is the PHB/DMG/MM all combined. The initiative system is quite good and makes use of some of those rarely used numbers from 1st ed. AD&D!

"Sigh", now only if I could convince some of my gaming buddies around here to play it.

Just blew up a poodle that was stirring up trouble in the Poodle thread.

I got a copy yesterday. Not bad at all. The line up for the full bestiary looks good.

I never really got into the 3/3.5e version of Eberron, but after seeing this, I might give the setting more attention.

Yes Yes YES!

I've really been wanting an empire-building campaign. Thanks for the willingness to explore new campaign options.

I went to the Compleat Strategist in Boston, and I obtained a copy of the Bonus Bestiary, plus I bought a copy of the Elves of Golarion Companion. (I wasn't surprised that the 4th Ed. stuff went quickly). Not bad.

To me a paladin is many things but not a jerk. They are kind and compassionate. They want to see the good in people even if everyone else in the world refuses to believe in them. If a repenting villain screws up, you're there to help them stand up and never quit trying.

If you are considering a third-party publishers stuff, Blackdirge Publishing has the Master at Arms: Ironstrike Archer Prestige Class PDF (8 pages) for about two bucks. It's available via Drivethrurpg.com.

SuperSheep wrote:

I think what people are clamoring for with non-LG paladin's is some cool alignment-specific class for their favorite alignment and deity.

I play a cleric of Desna who can never have a paladin. Does Desna have any holy champions? Who does she send when she needs someone to beat down the BBEG?

her clerics?
that is the cleric's role... holy warrior for her god/dess cause...

lastknightleft wrote:

Ouch and I didn't even get an honorable mention :'(
You'd think I wasn't on that discussion from about page three when I first saw it to the very last page arguing till I was blue in the face. Oh well, nobody loves me, everybody hates me, guess I'll eat some worms.

Or maybe some worms will eat you ...