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There is so much confusion at gaming tables over the conflation of physical attractiveness with how charismatic someone is. I've discussed this at length with experienced gamers who playtest for multiple companies and my opinion has only become firmer that these are two different stats.
The Star Wars Saga book tried to explain to players that charisma can mean either, or, or a combination of both. That seems to be how all the systems that conflate the two try to operate. Well, it's very very messy.
Just have two separate stats. Problem solved!
Some of the most charismatic people in history were quite ugly but beauty is also important to have as a stat because it can make a big difference in terms of how people relate to someone.
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What happens when you have an 18 charisma and you're ugly? What happens when you have an 18 charisma and you're gorgeous AND charismatic? What happens when you have an 18 charisma and you're really gorgeous but not very talkative? It doesn't seem reasonable to say that the second case should have a higher charisma just because both qualities are equally high, but it also doesn't seem reasonably to treat that person as being equivalent to someone with only one quality at that level. And that is just talking about stats. When it comes to role-playing it's a big mess because the two can be mutually exclusive or not.
It's too messy. While beautiful people are treated better in general, that isn't enough to put beauty and charisma together. A certain German leader, for instance, was very charismatic and also not at all good-looking. There are many more examples. Intimidate rarely is about how beautiful someone is, although there are cases.
Plus, it would be nice to have mechanics for a beautiful character who isn't a face type. A quiet beauty. As it stands now, you're wasting your stat points in the point buy because there's no reward for being beautiful and quiet if you roleplay diplomacy as being about back and forth talk (and bluff as mainly about talk rather than distracting someone with looks -- although bluff is a bit easier to conflate with). An exception would be a sorcerer who doesn't bother with skill points, but even then having such a high charisma makes putting something into face skills seem worth it — at least diplomacy or bluff.