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Gausse wrote:
The problem with this is that they did not post a change to perception to remove the +8 bonus creatures with Scent get to detect a scent.

Why is everyone so hung up on that +8, and assuming that the only possible use for it is to find a hidden foe?

Find the poison in your food, notice the blood stains on someones robes, pick up on someone's disguise, notice that the wet footprints on the ground are salty.... there's a million possible uses for scent in perception rolls OTHER than just finding someone.

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Mabven the OP healer wrote:

There is a heated debate which has spawned at least 5 threads about Attacks of Opportunity and the Combat Reflexes feat. I would understand if you didn't want to answer this quickly, because of the heated level of the debate, but I would be very interested to hear your take on it.

One side claims that if one has Combat Reflexes, and a high enough Dex, there is no limit to the number of AoO's one can take per action per target, as long as that one action fulfils more than one requirement for being a "provocation." One example is spells which require a ranged touch attack. A recent errata added language to the Core Rulebook which says that a spell with a ranged touch attack provokes an AoO even if cast defensively, because all ranged attacks provoke. Those on one side say that if a caster chooses not to cast defensively, he provokes two separate attacks of opportunity for the one action (casting a ranged touch attack spell.) Some even go so far as to say that a full-caster level scorching ray would provoke 4 AoO's - one for each ranged touch attack, and one for casting the spell. Similar arguments have been made for the Greater Trip and Vicious Stomp feats. (2 AoO's for the single action of falling prone)

The other side claims that you are limited to one AoO per provoking action, even if that one action fulfils the requirements for being a provoking action twice. This side of the argument is divided into two camps, one which would allow multiple aoo's per target on a ranged full-attack or charge with unarmed attack (no Improved Unarmed Strike feat), because these are full-round actions that are made up of what would be individual standard and/or move actions otherwise. The other camp says that any one action can only cause one AoO per opponent, even if it is a full-round action. This camp subscribes to the opinion that an "Opportunity" is an action which provokes, and thus the prohibition against more than one AoO per opportunity specifically limits AoO's to one per action per target.

So, is there a limit to the number of AoO's that can be made against a single target for a single action, or is there no limit, assuming you have Combat Reflexes and enough Dexterity modifier to take advantage of every provocation included in that action? Or is there some other limitation that neither side has thought of?

1) I'm generally never interested in getting into a "heated debate" about rules, since in my experience most folks involved in such debates are more interested in the debate itself than in listening to reason or accepting resolutions.

2) With Combat Reflexes... you can take an additional number of AoOs in a round equal to your Dex mod. If your Dex is 18, that means you can take (1+4) a total of 5 (five) attacks of opportunity in any one round.

3) Here's how I would run the multiple triggers with one action situation: It would provoke only one AoO. It's only one action, and therefore can only provoke one response... EVEN IF that one action has multiple elements that, on their own, would provoke an AoO.

AKA: Effects that provoke attacks of opportunity do not stack. And they only provoke when the provoking action begins. You can't just run back and forth by a guy doing a full round action that provokes and get an AoO each time you run by him. Because allowing that many attacks of opportunity is not what the game is intending to happen.


Well, don't know if anyone else had this happen, but none of the experienced D&D 3.5 players in my last Pathfinder game (myself, the GM and three others) had any idea about this:

You can score critical hits on Undead and Construct creatures now!! I didn't discover this until I saw it randomly mentioned on these boards. I looked it up in the Bestiary and was like, "well damn! It's true!" Our GM for the game was making characters use magic weapon crystals from the Magic Item Compendium to be able to crit undead.



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