Stone Dog wrote:
I anticipate Oracle Feats that represent sorcerer-ness being inflicted on somebody by something other than heritage. Feats that deliver potentially stronger abilities, but also carry hinderances in the bargain.
I like that idea. A feat (or Archetype, so series of feats) that provide a good bonus, but comes with an anathema as well.
I'd like to also point out that while a different game and campaign, SFS allows for crafting now because they've done away with it being a financial multiplier as well. (Crafting just makes this have a higher hardness, and halves the time it takes to repair, which could be useful).
If we take that into consideration and if PF2E ultimately has something similar for crafting rules, where it is gated by level and proficiency and not financial multiplier, I feel there is a high likelihood of PFS2E allowing crafting.
Again, pulling from SFS, I agree that we have no idea how many rounds the average combat will take in PFS2E or Playtest. SFS combat, I see take 4-6 rounds and typically the Solarion gets use their 3-round abilities at least once in most significant combats (some combats admittedly are easier/quicker).
My group is starting to prepare and schedule what we would like to do for the Playtest. Currently we have 2 regular GMs (myself and one other). We alternate who is GMing weekly between 2 different campaigns.
My primary question is this: Is it possible to have each of us GM different Parts of Doomsday Dawn? (i.e. he GMs Parts 1,4,7 and I GM the rest or some other set-up like that)
This is partly because both of us want to play (and honestly I think both of us want to tryout the rules from the other side of the screen as well). However, it also allows us not to take a huge 3 month break from either one of our campaigns. Ultimately we've already conceded we probably aren't following the quick schedule, but we'll complete the surveys as we complete the parts - since Jason Buhlman stated they'd be open for some time after the 2 week window (3 for Part 1).
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John Ryan 783 wrote:
While I expect much of the back-end math is different, I think they are going to be working on a similar philosophy as they did with Pathfinder Unchained and Starfinder, which is: Monsters/NPCs work off of different math than PCs do.
This has many merits in that it is super easy to homebrew/create your own monsters. It also makes it easier for Paizo and other 3PP folks make monsters and stuff for adventures and what have you.
However, it does make it a bit harder for consumers to double check math on published material (especially early SFS scenarios), until the Alien Archive came out.
Can't say I'm a fan of bundling mechanics with background - it always seems to result in clumsy mechanics and cookie-cutter backgrounds. This is, probably one of the better implementations I've seen, but I do have a question - since all the Backgrounds shown thus far share a similar template, what's the intent behind having the individual Backgrounds?
I imagine that just like Themes in Starfinder, this background system will give them space to, in the future make more specific backgrounds for different products. Much like the variety of Int-based themes in Pact Worlds are similar-ish mechanically (especially pre-6th level), but they each tell a different story about the character and where they are from.
So I would like to go ahead and add my voice to the crowd and say that as a GM I am super happy with the slow roll-out of races. Especially of some of the more 'weird' ones being harder to get access to.
My hope really is that all but the races is sanctioned sooner rather than later and not boon locked. Especially the themes, because right now some of the new themes will fit character concepts much better than current themes (I imagine we will see less Outlaws and more Space Pirates, and also less Scholars as there are more Int-based themes). I also believe that if the Archetypes are allowed right away we might start seeing some more players picking up Archetypes (some of them seem pretty neat at first glance!). I think the weapons added in Pact Worlds fill a lot of the holes from the SFCRB and will hold many people over until the Armory Guide comes out (I'm looking at you Weapon Crystals!)
Races though, I would like to keep sort of the way they are. Some of the races need to be individually considered before releasing them into the wild. SROs most definitely and even Astrazoans have some pretty important racial abilities
They offered print versions of the playtest version of the 1st Edition of Pathfinder and there were plenty of big changes made between the playtest version and the final version. Paizo has realized that they have a market of people that will purchase special edition collectible level material from them when it is offered. As a business, why not offer something like a Special Edition Playtest version of a book they are already sending to the printers? That is just leaving money on the table, since they are first and foremost a business not a charity looking to design and develop a game for us to enjoy.
I already know of a handful of people that plan on pre-ordering that Special Edition book and at least one other book. What does that mean for Paizo? They've now just sold 2 copies of the book, instead of 1. Is it a money grab? Maybe, but we all get to vote with our dollars and people that make the decision to buy both do so know that.
I ran 1-08 Sanctuary of Drowned Delight for the first time the other day.
The rest of the story:
After the introduction and finding out from Fitch that the Arniselle lodge was of an old standardized design, on of my players asked if they could get the basic layout of the lodge.
At the time, I couldn't think of any reason why something like that wouldn't be easily accessible so I gave the PCs a basic layout of the lodge, minus the area beyond the secret door.
Could there have been a better way for me to handle that?
I have been awarding reputation like Alanya has suggested, however my biggest concern is that right now the reporting system here at Paizo doesn't really support awarding multiple faction reputation gain.
I've also talked with a couple of non-local GMs at a Con a few weeks back, and some of them were under the impression that you could only gain the bonus reputation if you had the Champion Boon slotted. They both expressed that is what their (different) area GMs had been doing.
I personally would like an example of how to award that bonus reputation or something.
Sid De Squid wrote:
So what exactly is the reasoning for GMs not to be able to get points for the Alien Archive Boon? Because GMs who run more games than they play get the short end of the stick, because GMs are not getting any points wouldn't they just want to play and never GM except at cons? Sure GMs get slightly more opportuinty to get race boons but not that much more, and sure its great for the players but there has to be some incentive for GMs to run because the GMs by the actual scenarios not the players. In my opinion it'd be fair if GMs get points toward the Alien Archive Boon because they're buying the scenarios and actually running them.
The Regional Support GM Boon does give access to the legacy races, however it is after 12 games GM'd.
I do think that they should look at future Regional Support GM boons. In the future, access to races via this boon should be on par with the Player Focused Boon. This coming from a GM that has yet to actually play an SFS scenario, and does not normally see the chance to outside of Cons.
Nothing prevents them from going three times their speed, no. Though, as many Solarian Revelations are Move Actions to activate, that's often gonna be a better use of the free Move Action.
That is true, especially as a campaign progresses to a higher level, however between 2nd and 4th level, it is a worthwhile tactic. Even at higher levels, sometimes that extra mobility to line up the charge can prove useful to many.
I'm currently a player in the Dead Sun's AP, and just hit level 2 with my Lashunta Solarian, and I'm also a Society GM that is curious about this in case I see it in play. I have a question about Stellar Rush, which reads as thus (emphasis mine):
SFCRB pg.104 wrote:
Then Charge says (emphasis mine):
SFCRB pg.248 wrote:
Does that mean that a Solarian that takes Stellar Rush can first use their move action to move up to their speed and then use a standard action to use Stellar Rush, allowing them to move up to double their speed in the charge. Thus allowing them to effectively move up to 3x their speed in a round? Or is there something akin to partial charges (i.e. standard action only) like in Pathfinder that I haven't come across yet?
I think I'm gonna go with the Atonement route (there is a Cleric in the party) once the Insanity is taken care of. I'm excited for this RP chance in the published material we are playing through (details in the spoiler)
We are playing through an AP. Read no further if you don't want to know the name
Reign of Winter. Read no further if you do not want Reign of Winter Spoilers.
The Paladin went into the Eon Pit to save the Ranger that rushed into the Eon Pit and had failed the Insanity and Aging effects. The Ranger died of old age, but the Paladin was able to survive the Aging effects, and slowly work his way down the Pit, get the dragon scale, and get it to the party (after the party knocked him out)
I'm the GM and I have a Paladin of Sheyln that was afflicted with the Insanity Spell (CL 20), and the party does not have any of the requisite spells to get rid of the Insanity right away. Instead of just having the character be "confused" until the party can cure the Insanity, the player asked if we could use the Madness rules.
I randomly determined which ones he was afflicted with and they ended up being:
My first big question is: Does the Will penalty from Amnesia and Multiple Personality Disorder stack? Off hand, I want to think so since the penalty is from two different sources and I have found nothing that states what penalty type they are.
Next question: If the party is able to get their hands on a Heal spell, would the alignment change from Psychosis revert back to original OR would the character still be Chaotic Evil?
So my party will probably make its first attempt at Artrosa tonight and I'm doing my prep work, when I realize that they want Erdija to follow the PCs until they basically tell her to go away.
How would she follow them during the climb up to the top of one of the cliffs?
Would the party need to either get her magical flight (which is possible) or jury-rig something else up(which would be hard to do since it is about half a mile up).
Or should I just handwave it and treat her climb as any other PC/NPCs climb ignoring the fact that she has horse hooves for feet?
Thanks for the thorough response!
My VTT group is going to be starting another AP in about 2 months or so and we have narrowed it down to Hell's Vengeance and Reign of Winter. As the GM, I don't have any particular preference over the two.
All of the players are willing to be in an Evil campaign and we have talked about consent and the like in regards to HV. I'm just looking for some input from folks that have played/GM'd at least one (if not both) of these APs to give me some insight into the pros/cons of each AP from a play perspective and/or a GM perspective. Thanks in advance!
Possibly? But remember that Ravounel is not technically part of Cheliax as far as Hell is concerned.
At least Cheliax will be headed towards freedom, true, civil war and all that but hey.
Well, with the exception of the Archduchy of Ravounel which would probably become free of Cheliax with its own Hell-bound contractual reasons, but still has a Thrune in charge, albeit he is now a Genius Loci on top of his own regular power.
Valandil Ancalime wrote:
Those are additions that make sense! Thanks!
Wrath of the Righteous only spends half the AP battling demons on the material plane, a third is spent on 2 separate demon lords' own sections of the abyss, and the last bit all over the place
The one sentence description doesn't say all the fighting is done on the Material Plane. Just says that they are fighting the demons streaming into the world. It doesn't necessarily say which side of the stream they are on ;)
Also, these are only 1 sentence descriptors to give a brief description of the AP. Do you have any suggestions on what WotR sentence should be instead then?
So I am looking to get some newer players to play an Adventure Path. I'd like to be able to give them a 1-2 page list with a one sentence description of each of the APs. Below you will find what I've written up about each of them. I've only personally read/played/GMed 4-5 of the APs, so any help getting the best description possibly would be much appreciated!
Rise of the Runelords - Traditional high fantasy including goblins, giants, dragons and many other foes!
Curse of the Crimson Throne - Urban campaign after the death of the city-state’s king.
Second Darkness - Explore elven ruins & eventually deep underground, eventually fighting dark elves!
Legacy of Fire - Desert adventure including genies and planar travel!
Council of Thieves - Urban adventure that helps guide a city before it tears itself apart.
Kingmaker - Explore the vast wilderness and ancient ruins to clear space for your budding kingdom!
Serpent’s Skull - Explore ancient ruins, racing against other parties to be the first to explore them, hopefully preventing an ancient sleeping god from arising!
Carrion Crown - Horror adventure that pits the players against traditional horror themes.
Jade Regent - Travel from traditional European fantasy across a land bridge to the Asian-themed lands!
Skull & Shackles - Explore the seas as pirates, fighting sea monsters, other pirates and more!
Shattered Star - Seek all of the pieces of an ancient artifact, delving deep into the history of a land!
Reign of Winter - Fight the machinations of a reviled Winter Witch, and travel through time & space!
Wrath of the Righteous - In this mythic adventure, players will fight off the hordes of demons streaming into the world!
Mummy’s Mask - Delve into ancient tombs and uncover the secrets of a cult to prevent the rebirth of an ancient tyrant
Iron Gods - Barbarians and robots collide in this adventure to bring a dash of high-tech into this fantastical game!
Giantslayer - Fight orcs & giants, preventing them from overtaking the human lands!
Hell’s Rebels - Rebel against an evil Hell worshiping empire to free a region from its grasp. (Not directly influenced by Hell’s Vengeance)
Hell’s Vengeance - Play as the villains, helping the evil empire put down a divine inspired rebellion (Not directly influenced by Hell’s Rebels)
Strange Aeons - Madness has grasped the players and they must discover not only their own past but also stop the madness of cults from spreading across the globe!
That is great to hear! Both as a potential player, but most likely a GM trying my best to get all of my players playing these great sounding PCs.
Most adventures are designed with 4 players in mind, however you are building an adventure with the assumption there will be 6 PCs.
(1) Will many of the encounters be designed to be more difficult than a typical adventure due to there being 6 PCs?
(2) If you have only 4 players, will you have advice to GMs out to tone things down to to make that accommodation?
I'm running my party through Hell's Rebels and they are currently 8th level. One of the players is playing as a Promethean Alchemist. In the early levels if/when the homonculus died, I didn't worry too much about the cost of 1 pint of blood/Hit Die of the homonculus.
However, now the party is 8th level and the homonculus has 6HD. Meaning if my players wants to bring back the homonculus after it is 'killed', it would take 6 pints of blood. (In the real world with current donation guidelines, this would take a full year to safely donate)
I have been unable to figure out how this actually translates into a mechanical consequence. Off hand, I was thinking of 1 point of Con damage/pint of blood.
Meaning that in a safe environment there is a good chance that the Shaman in the party can cast Restoration spells to off-set the Con damage as it happens so that at the higher hit dice the homonculus can still be brought back. This would make bringing her back mid-adventure/dungeon crawl a lot more difficult, but allow downtime to be used to bring her back fairly easily.
James Jacobs wrote:
Alternately, you could run the section as-is, but have the aged leader of Acisazi use some sort of one-shot ritual or the like to grant the PCs combination freedom of movement/water breathing plus a swim speed to more or less negate the parts of underwater combat that made things a slog. It'll make some of those encounters less dangerous, but it'll preserve the story.
That is actually a pretty neat solution! If I hadn't already prepped No Response from Deepmar over the last week, I might've used it! I actually got excited with that Module when I read it, and started prepping it the same day as my OP. Thank you though for your response! I love how active Paizo staff is on these messageboards! :)
I made sure my party didn't sell that Cloak of the Manta Ray either, and it was helpful but it felt like not quite enough.
Just for reference, my party was:
Human Slayer (Stygian), with Dervish Dancer and some archery feats (so the scimitar was not very effective since it is not actually piercing damage, only treated as piercing). He was wearing the Cloak of the Manta Ray
Human Shaman (Life), thankfully he was our easy access to Water Breathing, he also has Augment Summoning, other focused on his Channel Energy
Elf Hunter, focused on archery with a Raven animal companion
Elf Alchemist (Promeathan/Chirurgeon) with a kick butt homunculus. Most of his extracts are used to buff the homunculus and feats are for crafting.
With most of the damange coming from the Slayer and the homunculus, both had issues getting through the DR of some of the monsters, especially after the underwater rules were taken into effect.
I ended up having Lictor Octavio go down with the party after clearing out the skum and a near death expierence with the shell sentinels (their DR AND fast healing make long lasting against my party). Octavio's Great Weapon build made pretty easy work of the Shell Sentinels (especially since he critted on a power attack).
My party plays on a VTT and we only get 2-2.5 hours per session to play every week (and sometimes even less). The end of Turn of the Torrent ended up taking us 4-5 sessions to complete because the current party is woefully not built for aquatic combat and we just slog through it. So much so, that my players are becoming more frustrated with the adventure than actually having fun.
With that in mind, I want to reach out and see if anybody has any ideas about replacing the Acisazi village & Menotheguro. Ideally something that still makes sense for the Silver Ravens to make alliance with that would help against Cheliax's navy much as the aquatic elves would.
I have just started reading book 4 and plan on finishing it this week, but I don't know if the Acisazi have a strong role to play in the AP after the alliance is secured.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Manly-man teapot wrote:
Who's going to enforce it, and what kind of training do they have?
An interesting way to go about it, is that the City in question is ancient and has magic's that help the local government enforce this law (and by this point long tradition) of monitoring magic use (think CCTV, but for magic in a city). Obviously this would be artifact level device and could be the hook for a number of possible adventures (removing, protecting or retrieving said device).
Ideally, that would then limit the number of wizards necessary to enforce the actual laws.
Seeing how this would likely be a Lawful city, it could have a major magic school/university. The School has an agreement that each Staff Member, student and employee capable of casting magic must spend X days/year (or pick a time frame) assisting in monitoring and working with the city guard to enforce the laws of the city. The city could also "Call Up" the School (or Particular members) in certain circumstances (say "Call Up" the Headmaster when a high level magic-user goes rogue).
For this to work, the school would obviously also need to get something out of this deal beyond just being in the City.
EDIT: OP Posted right before I did, figured I'd add my thoughts to my post.
Charon Onozuka wrote:
Finally, there are powerful and influential groups in the city who are invested in the idea of having LESS magic restrictions (Mage Academy, Church worshipping Goddess of Illusions, etc.)
I think that what some of those organizations would like is a more restrictive measure, but they are the few that can use magic within the community and that gives them standing, as the more freedom the organization is to use magic, the higher its standing is with the Local Government maybe.
As for the merchant and trade portion, most(in a generic Fantasy setting) of regular trade is mundane. Magic trade, while lucrative takes a lot of start-up capital and time so most merchants do not normally deal in magic.
Adventurers and the like could still be offered large bounties, luring them out to the city, but then when selling magical items might need to do it through one of the official magical organizations in the city.
Was just thinking along those lines basically.
Also what you could do, is ban all magic unless the practitioner has a some sort of Writ from the local government that will expressly list the types of magic or specific spells. I think this would allow some of the "trusted" citizens to use some of the more destructive spells or divinations and the like.
I'm at work right now so I don't have any references in front of me, but off hand I would say that a Paladin Hellknight of Ragathiel that is a member of the Order of the Torrent would be interested in getting righteous vengeance for those that were kidnapped (i.e. Taking "care" of the kidnappers). Beyond that I'd need to reread the Ragathiel entry and the Order of the Torrent info in the AP when I get home tonight (which is convenient for me since I'm running my HR campaign tonight)
Honestly, you'll want to talk to your GM about the Order of the Torrent and the role that they have in later books. From there he can pick and choose what information you know about the Order of the Torrent and from there you should be able to hopefully pick out what you need for Roleplaying a Paladin Hellknight of the Order of the Torrent.
Lord Twitchiopolis wrote:
I think the reason the Law/Chaos axis doesn't get the attention that the Good/Evil axis does, is because ultimately it will be harder to write an entire AP along.
Good/Evil has many great literary examples both modern and classical. Not to mention the Good/Evil delineation between the two is more clear than the Law/Chaos line. Especially since I see Good/Evil as a character's Morals and Law/Chaos as a character's philosophy/approach in life. With that being said, the Law/Chaos spectrum is a lot more subjective and is going to be harder to pin-point than say Wrath of the Righteous' being the Good campaign and Hell's Vengeance being the Evil campaign.
I do have to say that having read most of Hell's Rebels, it definitely feels like it could be the Chaotic campaign, that could be played by Lawful people, but chaotic players are going to have a more interesting go at it.
Maybe one of the future APs will be a bit more Lawful? Maybe Strange Aeons, trying to fight the chaos/insanity that the Cthulu mythos is guaranteed to try and impose on the players.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
Not to mention many of the Chaotic (and even Neutral) deities along the Law-Chaos spectrum do not have formal churches that some are thinking about.
Many of the Chaotic deities in Golarion (Cayden, Gorum, Desna etc..)are called out as having loose, if not non-existent hierarchical churches.With that being said, I feel like there is no "formal" authorization for those churches to begin with.
Now the Law deities (Abadar, Iomadae, Asmodeus etc...) might have something different to say about that since both the god and the church are Lawful and probably have fairly strict hierarchies (the Catholic church hierarchy comes to mind when I think Lawful churches)
For Golarion in specific there are a few gods(esses) that allow non-divine spellcasters into their priesthood. Nethsys is specifically called out as having a lot of wizards in his priesthood. And as mentioned earlier Desna has a number of non-divine casting priests as well.
In the RotRL campaign I was in, I had a Sylph Wizard(Air) that considered herself as a clergy member of the Desnan faith. It did include a lot of factors from RPing a strong faith in Desna and preaching now and then (although not super evangelical), but also the sheet did support this with a high Diplomacy and Kn:Religion.
Essentially, I agree with LazarX when it comes to a Priest being a role that can be filled by many. I will concede that in generic settings and even Golarion many priests are divine casters, but I still say not all of them have to be.