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Sundering, or at least use it very sparingly. As a GM, I can throw monster after monster at them, with little/no loss when they get ripped to shreds. But permanently damaging a character's weapon is a bit harsh when they cannot find a caster high enough level to Make Whole a high level weapon.

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Congrats, Other David!


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Does the Wizard know that it is an Invisibility spell? If so, could it not tell the babau "Hey, dispel the enemy's Greater Invisibility spell?" That should do it, I reckon.

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Barker wrote:
Or you can have them crawl Emerald Spire - that's 13 levels of menagerie.

Apparently, they've requested no more dungeons. So yes, I'd have to reiterate how great Kingmaker AP is for exploration. The exploration is a HUGE part of the AP, and you don't have to do a lot of roleplay/arguments with NPCs if you do not want to do so.

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Thematics aside and the one time use aside, remember that a Kineticist's blast is an okay way of dealing damage to swarms. Probably best to throw it on a character who doesn't have an effective way to deal with them.

Quote:

Even the weakest kinetic blast involves a sizable mass of

elemental matter or energy, so kinetic blasts always deal full
damage to swarms of any size (though only area blasts deal extra damage to swarms).


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You'll notice the difference in two spells like Reduce Person and Enlarge Person when it comes to projectiles; Enlarge Person has projectiles shrink to their normal size, while with Reduce Person they stay the same size. Pretty much for this exact reason. If he wants to do some more damage with his crossbow, he can look into the Gravity Bow spell. It makes bolts strike as if they were larger. Not ballista bolt large, but if you're playing a home game or something maybe you could make a Greater Gravity Bow spell that makes a crossbow bolt hit as if two or even three times larger.

As to the command word question, yes, it is a standard action to activate a magic item.

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thejeff wrote:
David Montgomery wrote:
All of the Advanced Players Guide iconic characters* (Alchemist, Cavalier, Inquisitor, Oracle, Witch) are being worked on. See blog post here.

That blog post doesn't actually say that. It's talking about the Occult Guide classes.

There's a comment in the post for the pregens, but it dates to November of last year.

The caption under the image says that Alain's holding things up. Darn nobility.

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All of the Advanced Players Guide iconic characters* (Alchemist, Cavalier, Inquisitor, Oracle, Witch) are being worked on. See blog post here.

*NOTE: The Summoner has an Unchained pregen available in Fane of Fangs, but given its legality in PFS now, the APG one is probably not going to be a thing.

Edited to add: You may want to look at the materials the pregen for Master of Fallen Fortress has, as a base. That may have not been available to you at the time, though.


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Hi Hoksmur.

If they channel negative energy, then they can only do the Harm version. The Harm (dazing) channel does not have any intelligence limit on it. If you want it to be so, maybe you should talk to the player and see if they'd be fine with you limiting it to creatures with an intelligence of 3 or higher.

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There are two scenarios I can think of that kind of simplify the Duel and Performance Combat mechanics.

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The Guide is the source, not a reference. So for Organized Play, you can waive the roleplaying requirements of entry to a prestige class. Was there any questions about a specific prestige class or anything?


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Actually, Pennywit, I was looking into that when I was finishing up Book 1 or 2 with the party. Great reminder. I could have the Shadow fey inhabit the town of Drelev.

I has originally planned to introduce Ms N. as a rival with the queen of the shadow fey for the affection of the same Eldest. Having won the eldest's affection, the queen of the shadow fey moves into the material plane, and makes good motivation for N to want to impose her fate on the Stolen Lands.

I'll have to look into that again.


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So my party just made their way into Fort Drelev, and performed a not-so-stealthy assassination on Baron Drelev. Spoilered for length, I guess.

The Assassination:
They flew to the top of his tower under cover of night and Invisibility, hid in his closet until he came in the room (with Lady Maray) for some... after-dinner activities, and yanked Lady Maray when the Baron went to wish his wife goodnight. After tying Lady Maray up, they pulled her into the closet and waited for the Baront to come back to ambush him. A fight ensued, as the party Wall of Stone-ed over the door to the bedchamber. Imeckus brought the baroness, and two guards in with a Dimension Door (I changed one spell per level of his spells to some less combat oriented support/utility spells, since he probably wouldn't have had reason so blast everything to bits on a casual day.) A lightning bolt from Imeckus and a crit from the Baron led to the death of the party's Oracle, and then fortune turned in the party's favor. The Baron and the guards got mowed down by a series of crits. Imeckus made his retreat, true to tactics, via Teleport. The party figured the deed done as best they could, and several guards still hacking their way through the wall of stone over the door, fled via Teleport to revivify their Oracle.

The party abducted Baroness Pavetta, and Lady Maray willingly chose to be teleported out with the party as the town would probably suspect her of foulplay since a guard that survived saw Lady Maray in the bedchamber and she's generally a newcomer to the fort.

Quite the feat, as they were only level 9 when they flew in and I didn't nerf the Baron. However, the party is pretty content with their efforts in stirring up trouble, and has little/no desire to "liberate" the town. This should leave plenty of room for a power vacuum in Fort Drelev, and some things that they may have forgotten that needed to be done.

TL/DR: Party snuck into the keep, killed the lord, and are content to let the chaos sort the rest of the town out.

So with that said, I'm looking for feedback on how to handle some issues!

Power Vacuum:
Who fills the power vacuum, if there is one? My initial guess would be Mr. I, since he already pacified Drelev Keep through warfare and intimidation. But at the same time I feel like he wouldn't bother. How long with Fort Drelev fester before Pitax steps in? I am thinking of letting Pitax score their own Liberation points and once they earn the requisite amount, Pitax takes over Drelev Demesne. I'm thinking that since they are only marginally interested, they may earn 1d2-1 LP per week to take into account any relief efforts, economic stimulation, and the Languishing penalties involved with going about it half-cocked.

Satinder may make a good choice, but there's little way for her to fulfill the work to take over the kingdom on her own and probably not without serious hassle and resistance from the remaining guards/nobles in the fort.

Mr. Numesti:
The party kind of left Terrion there at the keep, as they only made it through the top of the keep. With Drelev no longer in power, and no real need to keep Pitax happy, I don't think they'd need him alive. They were told by Kisandra that her father is being held prisoner in the keep, so shock-and-awe tactics were a bit careless on the party's part, I think. But careless enough to get the man killed? I kind of think so, especially if Pitax gains control of the fort.

Refugees:
The party has not gotten to encounter area X, with the refugees. Since they were arguing about whether to head to Fort Drelev, perhaps these should become refugees headed from Fort Drelev to Mivon to escape the chaos? It would be a good opportunity also guilt trip the PCs a bit.

Finding the Sisters:
With the library (M27) unsearched and no desire to head back to the castle until things pan out, any clues for finding the Black Sisters and Armag's Tomb? I couldn't figure anything else out except the Baroness and Lady Maray, but I don't think the Baroness would care enough to know exactly where the tomb is, and Lady Maray would only have some cursory knowledge, as she's heard about this through the baron.

The Runaway:
So after the hurting Imeckus put on the party, they are jonesing for a rematch with him. Can you think of a reason why Imeckus couldn't/wouldn't make his way into the leadership or service of Mr. I? I can't think of a reason why not, especially given his propensity for using divination spells to spy on people. He's make a great Spymaster for Pitax.

Thanks for the help.


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Sorry if this has already been answered. Couldn't find it.

Psychic spells with thought components are harder to cast than normal spells. Got it. A psychic spellcaster can center themselves as a move action as they cast the spell to use the normal concentration DC. Check. But does this apply to concentration checks to maintain spells when they take damage at a later time, or no? I could kind of see it either way.

Relevant rules text, Occult Adventures, page 144:

Thought Components wrote:


Thought Components: Thought components represent
mental constructs necessary for the spell’s function,
such as picturing a wolf in vivid detail—down to the
saliva dripping from its jaws—in order to cast beast
shape to transform into a wolf. Thought components are
so mentally demanding that they make interruptions
and distractions extremely challenging. The DC for any
concentration check for a spell with a thought component
increases by 10. A psychic spellcaster casting a spell with
a thought component can take a move action before
beginning to cast the spell to center herself; she can then
use the normal DC instead of the increased DC.

Does the "use the normal DC instead of the increased DC" clause apply to subsequent concentration DCs or only initial casting?

As an example, a mesmerist successfully defensively casts silent image after centering first (DC 17). An enemy attacks the mesmerist, and hits for 6 damage. What is the mesmerist's concentration DC to maintain the spell: 17 (10 + 6 damage taken + 1 spell level) or 27 (20 + 6 damage + 1 spell level)?

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I'm personally against it. I feel like a lot of adventures make balance assumptions based on what players are able to bring to the table. It's almost imperative that writers have some sort of assurance as to what players will and will not have access to.

As an anecdote, I've seen a 1-7 scenario (people will probably be able to guess which one it is) almost ruined in premise because a level 7 cleric had access to a particular 3th level cleric spell played down to tier 3-4. I mean, it wasn't a matter of being more effective in combat. It was a matter of major plot points gone in a few minutes. Things like this are the reasons why the tiers have started to shrink a bit since the start of Pathfinder Society. Not just combat-wise, but skill and ability wise, it's hard to challenge things as the levels increase. A 50-foot drop in your way is a killer for level 1-2, and a bruiser for levels 4-5. At 7, players may have flight, feather fall, great climb scores, earth manipulation, magical ropes that they can just thrown about.

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According to the guide, you can retrain your Favored Class Bonus into any other FCB legal to that character.

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Also adding that James Jacobs himself said he's not a PFS rules official here.

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Congratulations, all!

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Congrats to all of the recipients!


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Maybe you're playing with the wrong group? It sounds like they want to play one way but don't come out and say as much. Maybe talk to the GM and see if they'll tone down the challenge if you tone down your character?

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You could try a Google Doc, and then ask the community to X the games they could play.

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- Arcanists now are limited in the number of times they can use Consume Spells.

- A lot of Shaman hexes got "Cannot be targeted again for 24 hours" added onto it.

- Ecclesitheurge got their referenced, but cut off ability, blessing of the faithful.

... It's late and I'm tired, so I'm stopping there.


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The card is destroyed. The ability does not say cards are not destroyed, but he does not necessarily have to enhance cards with his pool; he can do it for any ranged weapon. So while he may throw cards, if he picks up a boomerang, for example, he could add returning to it.

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After some messy splattering of enemy combatants, my gnome wizard headed into the hallway and had to take his pants off after combat. Shortly thereafter, more people rush into the hallway. To play it off and stall before the NPCs could get into the room, the gnome starts dancing. It's now known as Magic Mike XXS.

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Matthew Downie wrote:

Presumably you can carry a sack of rats around with you and whack them one at a time until you've achieved enough critical hits to fill up your wyroot weapons every morning.

You know, typical monk stuff.

Tie them up (or a teammate for more comic effect) until they're helpless, coup de grace them (which is an auto-crit) for no damage, and refill your spells after every fight. Go nova in the next, rinse, repeat.

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Guide to Organized Play, page 9 wrote:

Characters choose their traits from six different

categories: basic, campaign, equipment, race, region,
and religion. A character can have only one trait from
each category (or subcategory, in the case of basic traits,
which fall into the areas of combat, faith, magic, and
social). Your character’s choice of faction opens up
additional trait choices presented in Chapter 4 of this
guide. These faction traits count as campaign traits—
in effect, they are the campaign traits for Pathfinder
Society Organized Play. No other campaign traits from
any source are legal for characters to choose.
In order to
select a faction trait, your character must belong to the
associated faction.

No, highlighted above for emphasis.

However, there are some boons that allow you to take Campaign traits from adventure paths.


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10th level as a Cave Druid you can Wild Shape into an ooze for 8 hours at a time, two times per day. Get a Druid's Vestments (only 3.75k) that lets you use Wild Shape one more time, and voila! 24 hours (minus the 18 or so seconds necessary to re-Wild Shape) as an ooze!

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You have options 1 and 3, since the cost for a level 5 cat is not listed in any book.

For option 1, you'd need a Raise spell of some sort, and the spell used will probably depend on the mode of PFS (regular vs Core). Raise Dead in the core rulebook will run you a little over 5k gold worth in diamond dust. If you have access to the Raise Companion spell, it will cost about 1k of diamond.

For +3, you can go commune with nature and find yourself a new companion. Just be mindful of the FAQ on how many tricks your new companion starts with and the rules for teaching it new ones: FAQ

Obviously, option 3 is the low cost option, but it may be more flavorful to get Old Trusty raised. Have fun!


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More than likely, if you do dip in Wizard, you'd like to take Abundant Ammunition as a spell. A lot of Gunslingers get it on wands, so being able to do it without would save you some cash (albeit not a huge amount).

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No, because to make a returning dagger you must have it be at least a +1 first. So you'd essentially be making a +1 returning dagger, which is the equivalent of a +2 weapon.

EDIT for relevant rules text: (CRB, page 467-468)

Quote:


Some magic weapons have special abilities. Special abilities
count as additional bonuses for determining
the market value
of the item, but do not modify attack or damage bonuses
(except where specifically noted). A single weapon cannot have a
modified bonus (enhancement
bonus plus special ability bonus
equivalents,
including from character abilities and spells)
higher than +10. A weapon with a special ability must also have
at least a +1 enhancement bonus.
Weapons cannot possess the
same special ability more than once.

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Congrats, Tim!

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Some others to check out, outside of what you've mentioned. While it's not a full list, as I've yet to run everything out there, there's a lot to choose from.

Wet adventures:

0-02 The Hydra's Fang Incident [1-5] (bonus points!)
0-06 Black Waters [1-5]
0-17 Perils of the Pirate Pact [1-7] (bonus points!)
0-20 King Xeros of Old Azlant [7-11] (possibly bonus points!)
0-23 Tide of Morning [1-5]
1-31 Sniper in the Deep [5-9] (BONUS POINTS!)
1-34 Encounter at the Drowning Stones [7-11]
1-38 No Plunder, No Pay [7-11] (BONUS POINTS, AHOY!)
1-50 Fortunes Blight [5-9] (Loosely water themed)
2-03 Rebel's Ransom [5-9] (Bonus points!)
2-12 Below the Silver Tarn [7-11] (bonus points)
2-13 Murder on the Throaty Mermaid [1-5]
3-06 Song of the Sea Witch [3-7]
3-07 Echoes of the Overwatched [3-7] (Loosely water themed)
3-11 Quest for Perfection, pt 2: On Hostile Waters [1-5]
4-15 The Cyphermage Dillemma [1-5]
4-18 The Veteran's Vault [1-5] (I don't think you'll want these bonus points...)
5-01 The Glass River Rescue [1-5]
5-06 You Have What You Hold [3-7]
5-19 The Horn of Aroden [1-5]
6-05 Slave Ships of Absalom [1-5]
6-21 Tapestry's Toil [5-9]
Module: Plunder and Peril
Module: From Shore to Sea


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Just because you don't need to roll doesn't make it a free action. Having the ability to command an animal as a free action, like a Druid does their bonded companion, would get you around that.


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No, generally ranks are used as hard level caps for things like prestige class, since you cannot have any more ranks in a skill than your total character level.

If you really want to go Assassin, then maybe talk to your GM about changing the requirement.

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Nefreet wrote:
All Rouge Talents are banned in PFS play.

But... but... I look like a perfect blushing blossom...

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It's not often, but I do know of a few earlier scenarios that throw a ton of lower HD monsters (3HD) at the party at high tier of a 7-11. It's not likely to come up again, with the way the difficulty curve has changed though.

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It was a two-part thing, I believe.

Aspis Getting the Boot:

3-25 Storming the Diamond Gate [3-7] and 3-26 Portal of the Sacred Rune [7-11]

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There's an FAQ on scribing scrolls in PFS.

LINK HERE

Quote:

Players are welcome to exchange spells with each other during an adventure. They must still follow all the normal rules as put forth in the Core Rulebook and their class descriptions (for instance, an alchemist can scribe from a wizard, but not vice-versa) and they must not bog the session down.

Similarly, scrolls found during an adventure can be used to add spells to spellbooks and similar class features (such as a witch's familiar), using the normal rules for doing so. Scrolls used in this way during an adventure do not need to be purchased, but are still consumed as normal.

With either method, the GM should sign off on the spells gained (after witnessing successful skill checks) on affected players' chronicle sheets. All other methods of gaining new spells (such as by gaining a level or purchasing access to an NPC's spellbook) function as described in the Core Rulebook and relevant class descriptions.

In the rare instance of a wizard charging a fee for the privilege of copying spells from their spellbooks, this fee is equal to half the cost to write the spell into a spellbook (see Writing a New Spell into a Spellbook). Rare and unique spells do not change the fee in PFS.

So you can purchase from NPCs in the Society's libraries, but you'd need to pay the scribing costs and give them a 50% tip.


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Are you more set on damage, or on control? The Crossblooded Orc dip does give you a few more points of damage, but does nothing for the control aspect it sounds like you want.

Have you thought about the Oracle of Winter dip? One level gets you this revelation:

Quote:
Freezing Spells (Su): Whenever a creature fails a saving throw and takes cold damage from one of your spells, it is slowed (as the slow spell) for 1 round. Spells that do not allow saves do not slow creatures. At 11th level, the slow duration increases to 1d4 rounds.

Then you could go Admixture Wizard and change spell damage to cold, and possibly slow your enemies.

Rime Spell will also be your friend. A Rime Frost Fall means an area of entangling cold, and if they fail their save, they are slowed as well. Ttalling 1/4 movement speed from the double half-movement conditions.
... Also, Snowball.


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Also the Feast of Ravenmoor deals with a small Varisian town, but doesn't have a huge Shoanti presence.


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That "dagger" does the same damage as a longsword, though. I'd be fine if you skinned it as a REALLY big dagger.

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I think you'll find that this is not a PFS specific issue; the whole issue of player agency is a big one in the game as a whole. Domination, Save-or-Suck/Die, GM-altered backstory, and that sort of thing are taken differently by different people.

The reaction will vary from player to player. Sure, you can roll up another character in a home game, but there's a certain amount of emotional investment that comes with creating a character that some people don't want thrown away.

With that said, I personally don't prefer to use them, but don't mind save-or-sucks in higher-level PFS play (usually 10+) as players are throwing those bombs out too. In my home game, I've learned to temper my game to how they play. They've policed themselves away from save-or-suck, so I've done the same with the NPCs. It's only fair, in my eyes. As a player, I know that such things exist and I've steeled myself for that eventuality that I will fail a save against an awful effect.


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I am currently running a Kingmaker campaign that I'm incorporating Courts of the Shadow Fey into. The party is currently about 1/4 of the way through Varnhold Vanishing. I'm intending to incorporate it over the long-term, instead of being a shorter, straight-through romp. Players have definitely gotten the hint that fey influence is playing heavily in the Stolen Lands, and this will serve as a bit of misdirection and foreshadowing at the same time.

I am using it to set up Nyrissa as well, but sticking a bit to the planned Kingmaker story line. There's no King my court, as the Queen hopes that merging an entire Fey plane onto the Material plane would surely draw out Count Ranalc's favor. The PCs have already seen some signs of the merger; shadow fey walking about, "edicts" from the queen, and that sort of thing. They'll see larger signs of this as they explore the Nomen Highlands. Being the jealous one she is, Nyrissa had set plans in motion to rip away the Stolen Lands from the Queen, because if she can't have Count Ranalc, no one can. The Stolen Lands will eventually get caught in a tug-of-war between Ranalc's would-be lovers. Nyrissa will drive off the queen of the Shadow Fey behind the scenes, but she'll continue to try to pull the Stolen Lands into her control.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
Try an Agathion
A 'dragon' flying mount with Lay On Hands.... yikes. o_O

Can't use it as a mount. That evolution restricted to certain types. That may possibly be why.

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Mark Seifter wrote:
David Montgomery wrote:

Personally, I think the restrictions make it much easier to actually do the stat-wise construction of a Summoner. After reading it over, I'm not as reticent to introduce newer players to the Unchained Summoner. That's a bit of relief.

I think the biggest challenge is negotiating flavor. I had a blob of GM credit sitting at 2nd level (not yet played at 2nd, sadly) that I was going to make a fiery dragon-riding LG halfling holy crusader. All good fluff-wise, but literally unable to make with Unchained Summoner rules. I think that it stand at odds with the flavor of the original class ("I made this with my imagination, and it likes me!") that someone Lawful Good cannot imagine a mount.

Given that the elementals are the odd one out in that they're the only ones not based on the Outer Planes, in my home games, I'm probably going to make them the exception to the alignment restrictions as well. And elementals can easily do dragons (I think magma dragons are literally from the elemental plane of fire). Won't help in PFS, admittedly. You'd have to go NG.

That may be what I'd have to do. I was hoping for an LG character (you personally know I have so many questionably good characters. :D )

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FLite wrote:
David Montgomery wrote:

Personally, I think the restrictions make it much easier to actually do the stat-wise construction of a Summoner. After reading it over, I'm not as reticent to introduce newer players to the Unchained Summoner. That's a bit of relief.

I think the biggest challenge is negotiating flavor. I had a blob of GM credit sitting at 2nd level (not yet played at 2nd, sadly) that I was going to make a fiery dragon-riding LG halfling holy crusader. All good fluff-wise, but literally unable to make with Unchained Summoner rules. I think that it stand at odds with the flavor of the class ("I made this with my imagination, and it likes me!") that someone Lawful Good cannot imagine a mount.

That is kind of weird. I wonder if the idea is that the good aligned planes are too proud to serve as mounts? Or if the idea is that they expect to be treated as equal and won't serve a summoner that treats them as subservient beings (since treating others as subservient beings is not generally regarded as a good aligned act.) Remember that a being acting as a mount is essentially submitting it's will totally to yours, moving exactly as and when you direct it.

If that's the case, then Proteans wouldn't be willing to serve as mounts or servants, by their description:

Quote:

...Beyond that, protean eidolons are

happy to work with their summoners for any purpose,
though they are quick to remind their summoners that
while they have a mutually benef icial relationship, they
are not servants.

I'm not saying that what you mentioned doesn't make sense, it's just that there's more than one type of proud creature on the list that would more likely refuse service. It's just a small problem I have with embedding fluff into the class mechanics.

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Personally, I think the restrictions make it much easier to actually do the stat-wise construction of a Summoner. After reading it over, I'm not as reticent to introduce newer players to the Unchained Summoner. That's a bit of relief.

I think the biggest challenge is negotiating flavor. I had a blob of GM credit sitting at 2nd level (not yet played at 2nd, sadly) that I was going to make a fiery dragon-riding LG halfling holy crusader. All good fluff-wise, but literally unable to make with Unchained Summoner rules. I think that it stand at odds with the flavor of the original class ("I made this with my imagination, and it likes me!") that someone Lawful Good cannot imagine a mount.


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On your My Pathfinder Society page, find you character and choose "Edit". There are faction options there.

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(Before going any further... look at the post date!)

It seems there's a Venture Officer in the Metro Boston area who's been running a lot of games. While this person's done a lot of work organizing events at area stores, it's becoming painfully obvious that no one's enjoyed themselves at his games.

Hmm? That whole laughing thing? Obviously forced, to spare his ego and all. Obviously.

What? He's got over 250 tables of GM credit?! *shrug*
Hmm? He's encouraged several new players to try GMing? ... I mean, that's not that impressive at all.

It's my extreme displeasure to announce that VL R. Diaz will never... evereverever... get his fifth GM Star. EVER!

Congratulations to our VL, R. Diaz, on earning his fifth GM star. He's had his 150 total game count for some time now, but he's recently gotten his specials count up to the mandatory 10!

Thanks for all the hard work!


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CWheezy wrote:
Yeah but then you took great cleave instead of something useful :(

If you're a Brawler, then you can use Martial Flexibility to get it temporarily, theoretically.

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