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Well, I'm of Slavic descent from both sides of my family all the way back to the middle ages.
Blue eyes, fair skin, blonde/ginger/brown beard... I'd say that categorizes me as white.
EDIT: Scott I'll have to try 4th edition too, I find myself agreeing with you a lot on this thread.
Is there cosplay on GenCon? Just asking.
Thejeff, are you saying that minorities who are targets of racism cannot be racist themselves?
And, yes, people seing racism everywhere are usually racist too.
It doesn't mean that they are not right to an extent. I'm sure that there were racist people at Gencon, after all, as much as we wouldn't want tgem to exist, they do. But to see things and immediately conclude the worst is irrational. And unfair.
Nobody here is being racist. Everyone is having a nice, civil discussion about it, and that is rare. I'm enjoying it. I like to look at a problem from various points of view, especially those I am either unaware of, or find it hard to identify with.
@TOZ, yeah, just occurred to me. I have random, barely related thoughts on occasion.
Maybe you are, and you are right, but your response leaves a lot to be desired, and I have zero interest in talking to people who start the conversation by accusing me of something I don't do.
It's not just the problem. It's how this problem is presented that matters.
See, I'm a tech guy, if someone called me on the phone and started screaming at me for whatever reason, I would calmly hang up and ignore further calls.
If, however, someone calls me and tells me that I did this wrong, or that I overcharged them or something like that. I would assess the problem, decide that the person was right, or explain why I did what I did and we would part ways amicably.
Nobody benefits from emotional reactions used in arguments. Because they produce more emotional reactions and that's a very nice slope.
It's like accusing a dude for hiring predominantly black and Hispanic people to work in his store of racism.
And he did it because, they work well, are honest workers and live near the store so that in a pinch he can call on someone. He respects them and pays them their just wage.
But noo he's a racist because he's putting them in a subservient role
Maybe it's just that I am not really sensitive to discrimination coming my way, so I don't really tolerate when someone else is being (what I assume) overly sensitive to stuff.
I've been called a baby eater, a terrorist and a Croat killer in the past, and that was nicer stuff.
I've also been refused service on the basis of me being a Serb in several countries.
I've also been kicked out of a bakery because I asked for bread and made the cardinal sin of using the Serbian word for it and not Croatian.
Did it bother me? Maybe a tiny bit. But I tend to feel sorry for bigots, in their small, pathetic worlds.
They don't deserve my time or attention.
I'm a Serb. Trust me I know something about discrimination. And yes, I'm white.
Refusing to accept that you are inferior, or that you should be ashamed of a geographic accident or melanine content in your skin and a bit different skull structure is not pride. It's common sense.
People who think they are better because they are of a certain skin color and facial features are entitled pricks.
When I say that I don't see race, by that I mean that I honestly don't care what someone's skin color is, and I treat everyone equally well.
Personality matters, demeanor matters, behavior matters.
As for culture, I refuse to accept any culture I personally deem bad.
So, while I may accept someone on their own merits, if the culturevthey hail from.is bad, I'll never accept it.
Like not talking OOC except to declare actions.
Except Larry is Latino.
Non-white people working in an establishment as service staff doesn't automatically imply racism, it implies that they work there because it's their job and they applied to work there.