Gorbacz wrote:I believe the answer was implicit but if you need a statement here it is: we should look at what happened with objective detachment and take a lesson from it so it doesn't happen...Rogar Valertis wrote:So should we stop heckling the Germans or not, because you kind of didn't answer my question :)Gorbacz wrote:Rogar Valertis wrote:Given these conditions it's very hard for me to feel the remain people's pain. It might be a problem for the UK, it might be a problem for the EU, but it was the result of the people expressing its choice freely and it needs to be respected, not vilified.I concur! We should stop heckling Germans for voting NSDAP in 1933 and respect their thoughtful choice which brought about so much stimulus for positive change across the world.
Really? Maybe you ought to ask yourself why so many people were willing to vote for a rabid (if charismatic) "Bohemian corporal" then.It's not much different from what's happening today: a lot of people were suffering and choose an option that promised to change things. They made a tragic mistake but it was NOT entirely THEIR fault. The conditions for them to hurt and therefore the space for the likes of said corporal to present themselves as a credible alternative were in place due to the policies enforced by the winners of WWI. Weimar is widely reputed as the finest example of democratic institution but alone that wasn't enough to improve the living conditions of so many germans, the Weimar Republic never had a chance to do so DESPITE being something akin a perfect democracy.
Bottom line: you want to keep EU? Then the EU needs to change its policies. Its focus should be on improving people's living conditions not the already great income of a very small if well connected and powerful minority. Otherwise yes the risk of history repeating itself exist, because the same mistakes are being made by those in power, not because Democracy gives people the right to choose for themselves.
All right, just to make sure we're on the same page, if it was 1933 fresh after that fateful German election day and I'd go like "JESUS CHRIST YOU NUMBSKULLS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?" you'd be there to tell me that I should respect their decision and wait until I see what happens with objective detachment?
Wow! I mean, it would be cool if the world would wait for you every time it goes bananas, but problem is, it doesn't.