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Morning Dear Paizo Custserv,

It's been a bit over a month and my order #4183634 is yet to appear in my mailbox :( Should I wait a bit longer, or can we chalk this one up in the "eaten by a grue" category?

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Wizard, Cleric.

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Bestiary Box has no words and uses mostly recycled art, so production costs and times are considerably lower.

I can imagine Paizo doing a 120 USD boxed set, I can't imagine myself buying it. Like Ptolus or City of Brass, it's a niche item for turbo-dedicated fans. Which brings us to the old question: do you want to use your resources to make one low ROI product, or 5 high ROI products with wider distribution channels?

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Ha, I found the elusive "whai no Boxed sets, Paizo?" thread with Vic's elaboration on the topic.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
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Marco Massoudi wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Zaister wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
It COULD be something for the 10th Anniversary of Pathfinder, if it is, i hope for a VARISIA product (Boxed set!). ;-)
I really think they have talked enough about the unviability of boxed set that we can accept that no such sets will be forthcoming.
And before somebody goes "but Beginner Box!" - BB was a loss leader.

On one hand, it doesn't take a genius to see that $35 is too cheap for all the content of the Beginner Box.

On the other hand, the first printing sold out and a second one was produced.

Why issue a 2nd printing if a product is a "loss leader"?

Something seems not right...

To get people into the game.

Paizo isn't "big" enough to produce products it looses money on imo.

I don't think there is a rpg producing company nowadays which does that.
I could be wrong though.

Actually, now that I think of it, BB might have been a VERY slim earner. Much slimmer than any other Paizo product, which still means that the only way it got made at this price point is that it is an entry product.

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Loss leader = pricing strategy where a product is sold at a price below its market cost to stimulate other sales of more profitable goods or services. Economics!

In case of RPGs, beginner boxes are evergreen loss leaders you put out to get new people in the game. You lose on them, but you hopefully gain more from purchases made by people brought into the hobby.

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Zaister wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:
It COULD be something for the 10th Anniversary of Pathfinder, if it is, i hope for a VARISIA product (Boxed set!). ;-)
I really think they have talked enough about the unviability of boxed set that we can accept that no such sets will be forthcoming.

And before somebody goes "but Beginner Box!" - BB was a loss leader.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Marco Massoudi wrote:


Why not offer a "Kingmaker" pocket edition for $25-$30?
Because the moment people see a collected AP for 25 bucks they will just cancel their AP subs and wait for the el cheapo edition. I know I will.

If you are patient enough to wait 7 years or longer for a possible collected edition, go ahead.

Collecting sold out single volumes into a compilation is the norm (look at Marvel and DC) and it will happen eventually.

The question is only when and if it will be a hard- or softcover.

It's called economics. ;-)

Some patience is not a bad trade-off for paying 25 USD for an AP instead of 150 USD. That's economics. For me, at least, not so much for Paizo.

If collecting sold out single volumes into a compilation is a norm, why didn't WotC collect Age of Worms or old Dungeon/Dragon issues yet?

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There's a pause in the line due to Starfinder coming out in August. Hopefully things will pick up once the new game is out.

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Marco Massoudi wrote:


Why not offer a "Kingmaker" pocket edition for $25-$30?

Because the moment people see a collected AP for 25 bucks they will just cancel their AP subs and wait for the el cheapo edition. I know I will.

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The thing is, if such game comes to exist, p'n'p RPG players won't be the primary target. They are a tiny market, compared to video gamers, and mostly either are already aware of Paizo and Pathfinder or don't really care.

It's the people who enjoy games such as Pillars of Eternity or Divinity: Original Sin that matter, because they vastly outnumber p'n'p gamers.

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Vic Wertz wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
...going by the letter of the OGL, you cannot use any other licenses in the product you use OGL in. Which means thins like GFX engine, sound banks, phsyics engine and other licensed content is a no-go.
I don't see it quite that way. The relevant sentence in the OGL says "No other terms or conditions may be applied to any Open Game Content distributed using this License." (Emphasis mine.) The way I see it—and note that I am not a lawyer—there's a legal needle-eye that can be threaded there if you can ensure that the other licenses can't be seen as applying their terms and conditions to the OGC portion of your game. But that's not something I'd bet my business on!

Reminds me of every time people ask me why lawyers always say "no", "never", "unlikely", "depends", "don't do it", "plz stahp hurting urself", "your grandkids will be paying for this" instead of "YES!", "SURE!" "CERTAINLY!", "THAT'S A GREAT IDEA" or "IMMA SURE THE JUDGE THINKS THE SAME!!!".

We're such joykillers.

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TOZ wrote:
The secret is alcohol, and lots of it.

THAT'S MY LINE

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If you mean Free RPG Day, then Paizo is offering a Starfinder quickstart.

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Joana wrote:
The OGL allows other tabletop games to use the 3.x chassis but contains no allowance for video games to use the rule system. Anyone attempting to market a video game using 3.x rules would be living in anticipation of a phone call from Hasbro's lawyers.

To be honest, that isn't exactly true. You can make a game using OGL...

...but it's nigh on impossible to make a modern video game this way since, going by the letter of the OGL, you cannot use any other licenses in the product you use OGL in. Which means thins like GFX engine, sound banks, phsyics engine and other licensed content is a no-go.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Or maybe a 0HD race;)

Let's not make Pathfinder's arguable overcrowded Mos Eisley Cantina even more overcrowded.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Interesting that the bestiary description says new regional threats and allies.

Which likely means at least one monster will be an animal companion, familiar, or non-Evil and inclined towards helping adventurers.

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Wait until you see a Trip specialist with fauchard before you pass judgement on reach weapons.

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Dragon78 wrote:
Yeah, but after several years, you would think the maelstrom would have more inhabitants stated then 8 proteans and the chaos beast.

And untold zillions of things with Entropic template. And screaming owlbears.

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The most important determinant of whether further hardcover collections will happen are the sales of CotCT.

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JiCi wrote:
Belabras wrote:
Not sure, but I know updates are still happening. Horror Adventures seems to be up, for instance.

True, but... not even the source list has been update since September or August.

I know that he was struggling with a back issue, but... to the point of not posting something on his archive FB page is a little concerning.

Honestly, if Nethys suffers from health problems and has limited typing time available, I'd rather have him punch in actual content than update the source list or post updates that amount to "ouch it still hurts" on forums and his Facebook.

Updates are happening. The site is few months behind the schedule, but it's trucking ahead and still better than d20pfsrd.

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Derron42 wrote:
Whatever happened to this potential product F. Wesley Schneider??

It quit being potential two years ago.

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I love the ninja sneaky spoiler for Bestiary 6 in this book. Full rules for troops, ahoy!

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Amazon can afford discounting the shipping due to freaking massive amounts of stuff they ship. They can negotiate rates based on volume that are beyond the reach of relatively small fish like Paizo.

Heck, I even think they can afford losing on shipping, most of their earnings are Prime subs, cloud services and fees from third party using them as store-front.

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taks wrote:
Huh, the Giantslayer you have must be different than the one I have. The squares on the maps are all 10'x10' at scale. The maps are freaking huge, on the order of 8'x6' in actual scale.

I constantly need to remind myself that this is a community where irony, sarcasm, hyperbole, allusion and understatement do not work.

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I've read all GS adventures. I don't need to run a slog through virtually identical caverns while fighting 43 vanilla Fire Giants to know that it would drive me and my players crazy. I'm sorry, but it feels like an adventure done by a random generator.

And I know it's "how things used be" before "vidya games and Jap cartoons killed Gary". But some time passed since, Vampire: The Masquerade, Fiasco and Dogs in the Vineyard happened, and stacking 4d6 stone giants, 2d6-1 fire giant clerics and 2d4+1 cloud giant chieftains in a 10' by 10' room doesn't cut it as a benchmark of RPG quality these days.

As for BBEG (and here I do admit it's just my opinion), any heroic story (and that's what D&D/PF is) will be only as good as the villain is. You can't have a good bunch of Bellerophons if your Chimera sucks donkey balls.

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AlgaeNymph wrote:

Good book, though it should've been made clear that it's about templates rather than how to run a game for little kiddos.

Umm, the product description is rather clear about what's inside - templates and monsters, each with plot hooks.

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I'd love custom avatars! ALL MY AVATARS WOULD BE DUCKS except, you know, *snort snort* not ducks.

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Rogar Valertis wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
I'd just run Hell's Rebels. It's a much better AP than Giantslayer.

I'm running Hell's Rebels, I run Giantslayer.

They are very different APs, both are satisfying experiences imo. Giantslayer is more "old style" and straightforward while Hell's Rebels is much more sandboxy and has easier challanges thus far (Giantslayer is simply brutal to the players sometimes... straight from book one!). I don't think you can really compare them.

P.S.

I'd like you to stop presenting your opinions as hard facts.

I could, if I was comparing apples to apples. Godfather to Forrest Gump. Catcher in the Rye vs To Kill a Mockingbird. RotRL vs CotCT.

But that's not the case. Giantslayer is just weak and doesn't compare to Hell's Rebels. The first two episodes of Giantslayer are good, but the AP takes a nose dive afterwards, culminating in atrocious adventure 5 (really, somebody got paid for writing it?) and completely forgettable final episode which pits players against a BBEG who has absolutely nothing on Ileosa, Karzoug, Unity or Barizali Thrune.

It's not brutal, it's [Moriarty] bo-o-o-ring [/Moriarty].

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Meanwhile, DC still refuses to tell the one and only official origin story of Joker.

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Dragon78 wrote:

Yeah, the kindness emotion focus is awesome now if we could just get love, joy, serenity, etc.

SEX

C'mon, sex sells.

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Fourshadow wrote:
Luis Loza wrote:

The Phantom Blade has a lot to it, seeing as its entry is about as long as the bladebound magus entry. Here are some of the more exciting bits I wrote into the archetype:

1. You have no phantom at all, but have the phantom blade at 1st level. No waiting for 3rd level for your weapon.

2. The weapon is ectoplasmic, which means it is always a ghost touch weapon.

3. The weapon can be any weapon with which you are proficient. Are you an elf? Take an elven curved blade! Want a bow? Sure!

4. The ectoplasmic nature of the phantom blade means it's malleable. If you need to change damage types, you can eventually change the shape of your weapon to something better.

VERY nice! Impressed with it already...of course I would be more impressed if I had...ah, well you know what I was going to say. Sigh. Those notices don't arrive fast enough. Can anyone in the Shipping Department cast "Haste"?

So, you're the person who regularly comes saying you hoped that new posts in product threads are actual updates and instead all you get is pointless banter, but then you make two posts which amount to "PLEASE SHIP MY STUFF FASTER" in a row...

And of course, because karma is a beach, I got just my PDFs :P

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Are there any demon lords, elemental oozes, rules for having sex with angels, fey, 0hd races, mythic paths or reveals as to how did Aroden die in this book?

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The trees are dead. The pixels are the future.

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Well if you write marketing blurbs in this hobby there's only so many times you can get away with "AND MUCH MUCH MORE!".

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Samy wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
OK so this is how it works:

Dude, I know I can always make a special deal with the DM. That's what I've done so far. That's an answer that can be given to *any* rule request. Always just make a special deal with the DM. That basically invalidates any requests for rules content ever. Fine, I'll never buy any rules ever again because I can always just make deals with the DM.

If you don't need this rule, fine. You don't need to request it. You don't need to come and tell me that I don't need it because I can just make house rules.

I ... ah, screw it. Good luck and have fun.

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Samy wrote:
Whatever the solution would be, it would be nice to have one that didn't require having your frog evolve into a fire elemental at level 5. I don't care if all the elemental subtype utility benefits are stripped away, the level 1-4 standin can be a 1hp 10AC no special qualities whatsoever creature as long as it makes fluff sense for it to move on to a fire elemental at level 5.

OK so this is how it works:

You: GM, I have a question. Since I don't want to have a slimy croaking frog that suddenly turns into an elemental at level 5, can we have, for purely FLAVOUR purposes, have that frog be made of fire? I mean, no stat changes, no advantages over a normal frog, just a cosmetic change. The fire would be magically cold and at level 5 the familiar would evolve into a normal elemental. How about that?
A Reasonable GM: Sure buddy, maybe we'll have some laughs out of this as we go.
You: Thanks, Reasonable GM!
A Reasonable GM: ^^

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Samy wrote:
Regardless of how often they appear, I do think that familiars are more appropriate for the Player Companion line than...pretty much any other line.

Aaaand that's why we got one-and-a-half of Player Companions for familiars (Familiar Folio and Animal Archive) aaand that's why the former one has a perfect solution for "I don't want to hang around with a rat before I get my elemental" people in form of Ioun Wyrd...

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I'm not a fan of "there must be an elemental/ooze/winged fairy/dragon for every element/plane/idea/material". Diversity comes from, among others, asymmetry.

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Mark Carlson 255 wrote:

You are an Avocado at Law?

MDC

That's one way of interpreting what I wrote, and certainly an interesting one!

One a more serious note, after several years of frustrating work in law practice, I'm now a full-time academic with side jobs of in-house lawyer for 2 NGOs. But the things I saw and heard in the courtroom ... they will haunt me until the end of eternity.

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For me, the order should be:

- APG
- Ultimate Equipment
- Occult Adventures
- UM/UC
- Ultimate Intrigue
- Advanced Race Guide
- Horror Adventures
- Ultimate Campaign
- ACG
- Bestiaries
- Mythic Adventures

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I believe that for 99% of humankind, an answer to the question "can you name any dinosaurs?" would look like this:

1. T-rex
2. Triceratops
3. "Brontosaurus"
4. Velociraptor
5. Stegosaurus
6. Pterodactyl
7. That funny small running one from Jurassic Park
8. That nasty spitting one from Jurassic Park
9. Spinosaurus
10. Barney

There goes your answer.

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People will stop buying the booklets if they get collected and updated on a regular basis. And monthly subs are what keeps Paizo afloat.

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I've had a player walk out of a game when I told him that there are no rules for what happens when you cast a lightning bolt underwater. I tried to deflect the problem using the "buuuht magic!" argument, but he was adamant.

Ever since I always bring that up when somebody goes 120% realism in D&D.

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TOZ, Rysky and Cpt. The Day After Yesterday! My favourite forum bromances!

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Arkat wrote:
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High level adventures don't sell and Paizo isn't a charity. That's why APs cap off at level 17 or below.

How would you know whether they sell or not?

Paizo, from what I can see, has only made ONE high level module - The Witchwar Legacy. If it didn't sell (I bought it), maybe it wasn't that good.

Giving up on high level play because one module "didn't sell" doesn't make any sense.

How do I know? Because I read this forum since 9 years and saw repeated comments from Paizo that high-level adventures sell considerably worse than lower level ones. The fact that they put out so few high level modules is just because of that, and the reason they did not put out more is because that ones they did proved that the trends didn't change.

Witchwar Legacy is a great adventure by a fantastic writer, so it's hard to ascribe that to quality when lower level adventures with considerably worse reviews sell much better. Heck, it has grand total of 2 reviews, while the 1st level Godsmouth Heresy which came out around the same time has 19.

Remember, they have several years of experience in publishing Dungeon and 3.5 era APs. There was just one epic-level adventure in the entire Paizo run of Dragon and apparently it sold bad enough to never warrant a second one.

Same goes for Adventure Path - the further instalment, the worse it sells, because campaigns tend to fall apart before the final episode.

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High level adventures don't sell and Paizo isn't a charity. That's why APs cap off at level 17 or below.

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If you want rainfall tables, it means you have figured out how do dragons and t-rexes share the same ecosystems as apex predators or what is the ecology of that kaiju-infested jungle they have in Valashmai ;-)

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Secret from the rest of the party is problem one and "my social persona poses as a Chelaxian loyalist and wants to worm his way into corridors of power in order to help Silver Ravens" is problem two.

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Asurie wrote:
Gorbacz wrote:
Conditional bonuses to saves are presented in the statblock if present, that's why Nerenn has them listed. Does Menotheguro have any conditional bonuses?

Ah, I see my confusion with the Nerrenn statblock after further looking over. The saves seem to hold up if "Weakness: Sickened" means that he is perpetually inflicted by the Sickened condition. I have not seen that wording before. Though in that particular case, his attack block is incorrect as far as I can tell.

w/o Power Attack
+7 BAB, +3 Str, +1 Weapon Focus, -2 Sickness: +9 BAB
+3 Str, -2 Sickened: +1 Damage

w/ Power Attack (as claimed in block)
+7 BAB, +3 Str, +1 Weapon Focus, -2 Sickness, -2 PA: +7 BAB
+3 Str, +4 PA, -2 Sickened: +5 Damage

In fact, it seems like the attack blocks are assuming no Sickened (assuming that is what the Weakness means, I have not seen it before), while the rest of the block is accounting for the Sickened condition. However, I will note that the block gives the +2 Natural Armor for his Form of Dragon and the extra movement from Longstrider, but I can't reconcile the HP total or listed saves with Bear's Endurance.

Now, I know I could just roll with these small errors, but I actually do a fairly large rebuild of things to bump up the difficulty. My party is running with 5 people using 20 pt buy and Hero Points, with no small amount of optimization, so the as-written encounters tend to all end up feeling trivial. As part of that, I really try to make certain everything is within existing rules so that things remain feeling fair, rather than fudging things when it is avoidable.

His tactics section says: "He attacks with his claws, focusing attacks on humans if possible, and uses Power Attack at all times (these bonuses and penalties are included in his melee attacks above)."

Therefore, his statblock assumes he's is attacking a human and getting +2 hit and dmg per attack from favoured enemy.

As for his hp, the listed Con 15 assumes Bear's Endurance was cast, so he gets 4 bonus hp per level: 2 from Con, 1 from Toughness, 1 from favoured class.

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