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Lucas Yew wrote:
Now come to think of it, with all fulltime casters (as far as I know) sport a nice full Will save, another classic trope of magic-users going nuts for knowing too much eldritch lore is debunked. What a shame...
This is a Lovecraft and Howard thing, not something thats prevalent in fantasy (especially high fantasy) in general.
Scott Wilhelm wrote:
This was a beautiful post. And completely accurate.
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
@ Gambit: To be fair, the BBEG would have Dragon blood, so I suppose that anything Draconian-themed would be appropriate. As for what and when we'll be partaking in Dragonlance, I'll have no idea. I have zero experience or knowledge of the Dragonlance world, so some basics would be appreciated.
I can definitely give you a run down, but seeing as I dont know what your DM has planned, I dont want to spoil anything. If you are a reader, your best course of action is to pick up the Dragonlance Chronicles trilogy (Dragons of Autumn Twilight, Dragons of Winter Night, Dragons of Spring Dawning), some great classic fantasy novels that will give you a solid knowledge base covering all you need to know to get a feel for the world of Dragonlance and what its about. If you enjoy those, you can also follow them up with the Legends trilogy (Time of the Twins, War of the Twins, Test of the Twins), which some say are even better than their predecessors.
Longtime FR fan (especially pre-Spellplague days), hope it turns out a great campaign for you guys!
Side note: I completely understand going core only, but have you considered letting the rogue and monk play the unchained version of the classes (keeping everything else core only)? They are vastly better made/balanced than the core rulebook versions.
My buddy ran a Kingmaker campaign in his living homebrew world, although it was Kingmaker in the general concept of PC's building a kingdom only, the actual campaign was an original he wrote himself, it went to 20th level and culminated with the PCs defeating an archduke of hell who was trying to break into the material plane.
The kingdoms name is Hydorin.
*Still waiting to hear about a non-card game Pathfinder/Obsidian RPG*
I want this very badly.
I just hope they go full on Pathfinder with it, like what BG was to 2E and NWN was to 3.X, and dont simply reskin the Pillars of Eternity mechanics/gameplay onto a game set in Golarion (I enjoyed PoE overall, but wasn't a fan of its various 4Eisms).
Dustin Ashe wrote:
I'd be surprised if they introduce another campaign setting (Ravenloft can kinda be folded into the Forgotten Realms). That may split the fan base.
This is only really an issue if you are pumping out multiple product lines simultaneously, causing internal competition as a byproduct, which was their business model in 2E, but the polar opposite of their business model for 5E. Releasing 2-3 books a year means they can explore the other settings in a manner where they are focused solely on each one at the time of their release, usually in the form of an adventure, and since each one will be the only 5E product being released at a given time, it therefore maximizes potential profitability.
We have had classical adventures, dungeon crawls, fairy tales, pirates, kingmaking, gothic horror, cosmic horror, sci-fi, and more. Given the new Vigilante class, and a few other newer ones that fit the theme, it stands to reason that a superhero themed Adventure Path isn't completely outside the realm of possibility. Which bears the question, where? What do you all feel would be the ideal region or nation for a superhero AP to take place in?
As a side question, what do you think the ideal party for said AP would be? Personally I think a Vigilante (Batman, Daredevil, etc), Brawler (Captain America, Wolverine, She-hulk, too many to name), Kineticist (Human Torch, Iceman, etc), and Psychic (Professor X, Jean Grey, etc) would probably be the four most thematically fitting as far as iconic superhero literary archetypes go, though a case could be made for several other classes also.
James Jacobs wrote:
Like, say, as vocal as we were about wanting a Curse of the Crimson Throne hardcover compilation? ;)
I have two MMO's on my radar, Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen and Camelot Unchained, one PVE focused game, one PVP focused game, both designed solely for their intended niche without trying to be everything-to-everyone lowest-common-denominator games. Hopefully they both see release (Camelot definitely will, Pantheon is more of a toss up, although its the game I want more).
(Man, I wish I could get back the $185 I gave to the PFO Kickstarter)
So we met tonight and finalized characters, we have:
Human Rogue: The 5th and youngest child of an Ergothian noble, she has bucked somewhat against the traditional Ergothian gender roles and has left her homeland to adventure and explore. Still trained in the courtly traditions and demure femininity of her upbringing, she is adept as both diplomat and scout.
Human Summoner: Born the day Chaos is defeated, this young woman has a seemingly natural connection with the ambient magic that infused the world upon his demise, being highly drawn specifically to the summoning realm of primal sorcery. This especially took the shape of her being born as a "twin", with her "brother" in fact being her eidolon. In actuality he is an Azata, a celestial being that has "grown up" with her since birth and acts as her guardian and protector.
Tinker Gnome Alchemist (Chirurgeon): A member of the Alchemical and Medicinal Sciences Guild, this little gnomes Life Quest is to discover and create an alchemical mixture potent enough to resurrect the dead. (The player was originally going to play a Mystic, but upon learning about the Chirurgeon archetype decided to switch to Alchemist.)
Minotaur Barbarian: A Kazelati, this minotaur was taken and forced to fight in the gladiatorial arenas of the Minotaur Imperium for many years, until after losing a match and presumed dead, was rescued by an unknown benefactor and taken to the mainland.
I'm actually really excited about this party and campaign now. We are using my Age of Dragons timeline, which has been begging for me to actually utilize for a while. It looks like the Rogue will likely end up as Queen of the new nation, but we'll see how it actually plays out. :D
Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
There is good stuff in that book but later Margaret Weis Productions updated and improved on the book. For example, Towers of High Sorcery and the Age of Mortals campaign got rid of the need for wizards to specalize in 3.5 terms while Knightly Orders of Ansalon fixes the Knights of Solamnia and the Legion of Steel PRCs.
Indeed Shalafi, the later Margaret Weis Publishing books are in fact better than the DLCS and Age of Mortals books.
Knightly Orders of Ansalon, Towers of High Sorcery, Holy Orders of the Stars, Races of Ansalon, Dragons of Krynn, War of the Lance, and Legends of the Twins are all just plain masterpieces.
I'm starting up a new in person Dragonlance campaign for a group of DL newbies, this should be fun. I'm going to be running a Kingmaker-esque campaign set in Kharolis, where the party will eventually be involved with a big war against the goblinoids, ogres, and thanois of the south, culminating (hopefully) with them uniting the region and one of them being elevated to king/queen of the new united nation.
So far the players have created the following characters:
Human (Unchained) Rogue - More scout than anything considered a thief, has ties to the Legion.
Should be fun. :)
Finding a Lawful-aimed AP is probably going to be extremely difficult. Barring ones like Wrath and Hell's Vengeance where they're designed specifically for an alignment like Good or Evil, most of Paizo's adventures are written expecting a Chaotic Good party, which seems to be the "quintessential adventurer alignment".
Interesting, since my AD&D days I have always taken Neutral Good to be the quintessential adventurer alignment. General altruism, without worrying about the rest.
Look at Kalindlara, doing the lords work. ;)
Even if we get Second Darkness eventually (which JJ has listed as a desire and something of a passion project), I doubt they will ever do Legacy of Fire and would jump straight from SD to Kingmaker if they continued them. Although by that point it might be a moot point as it would likely be middle 2020's and we'd probably be in Pathfinder 2E. Not that Legacy of Fire is a bad campaign mind you, I just dont think its very popular, it doesn't get a lot of press around here.
Richard Moore wrote:
Glad I could help. ;)
The art is simply amazing isn't it. Like the whole thing is just stupid impressive.
If you want to delve even more into it, surf around The Rancor Pit, the (Rebel) headquarters of the SWD6 system. They seemed to have a good bit of input in its creation.
John Kretzer wrote:
I have no problem with this picture. I do wonder though if Paizo would ever do a picture that featured that in reverse, a man sitting on the throne chair with his feet propped up on a woman? (Because there are also some gals into that kind of thing).
I used a few as bad guys in my Kingmaker-esque Dragonlance campaign, a small group of NE blight druids of Morgion (the God of Disease) had started abducting a few people out of the small town of Hamlet and blighting a wilderness area known as the Firecrab Hills. They were fun to play as villains, though not something I had ever considered as a PC.
I've been reading through Star Wars REUP, a retro-clone esque update to the old WEG d6 system, and as someone who never really played that system back in the day and has no built in nostalgia for it, I have to say its a highly impressive piece of work. I suggest checking it out, I'm likely going to give it a try. There also seems to be a solid community out there supporting this, and people have even been using Lulu to make their own print copies.
Indeed, Investigator makes way too much sense it cant not be one of the chosen iconics, both from an in game perspective and certainly from a meta one. I mean PC's in Call of Cthulhu aren't called adventurers, they're actually called "investigators". James is a smart guy though, he knows this. ;)
Ranger 1/Cleric 4/Skyseeker 10
I am playing a character with this progression in mind in a Giantslayer campaign. I could go into depth on the backstory/RP side of the character if you want, otherwise I'll just say he rocks an earthbreaker and wrecks face. :)
Some people might find it boring, but I rather like playing to an archetype (the literary kind, not the mechanical kind).
Ross, I think the issues boils down to being that a great many people feel the Antipaladin class should have been LE from its initial Pathfinder creation, that LE is its natural state, and one being CE should probably be what requires a special exception, not vice versa. Given that such isn't the case, an official LE Paizo version is desired instead.
1. Curse of the Crimson Throne - With the possible exception of book 4, this is pretty much perfection personified.
My Self wrote:
And I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with a character like that as long as it was all properly roleplayed out and fit in game. But that is also a very niche corner case unlikely to see much actual play.
I have a Ranger/Cleric/Skyseeker character in a Giantslayer campaign, my first character in 7 years of playing Pathfinder to take a prestige class.
James Jacobs wrote:
Prestige classes, to me, are prestigious. They're "rewards" that you earn for devoting yourself to a specific path. Seeking to join/pursue multiple prestigious paths doesn't make sense to me, really, since that's kind of the opposite of focusing to be good at one thing. So, for me at least, the fact that it was tough to qualify for multiple prestige classes was/is a good thing.
I think things would have been/be much better in this regard if the official rule stated that to take another prestige class one must completely finish out the first prestige class they have obtained, thus showing their devotion to the specific prestigious path they have selected. No dipping 2 levels in this, then 1 level in that, then 3 levels over there...it got ridiculous back in the day. Under this rule, for the most part, the maximum number of PrCs any single character can possibly have will be 2.
If you think Curse of the Crimson Throne isn't in the running (should they do another one), you haven't really been paying attention to these threads when they pop up.
Cole Deschain wrote:
The new Horror on the Orient Express box set is one of the most impressive RPG products I have ever seen. I would love to see Pathfinder do something of that nature one day.