They are both DA, they should be something achievable as Cash says, but something that tells me what your character wants to do. Some of the missions in the V-Map are there to allow you to achieve the goals stated.
Further posts will be delayed until I am feeling better. Have come down with the flu and the asses at work are still making me come in because they 'don't have anyone to cover my graveyard...'
Apologies for the delay, but will be another few days at least before I can kick this off. I appear to have come down with the flu, and the asses at work are making me come in anyway. You should each only have 2 beliefs and instincts, it's three in the source material but decided to cut that back since you have fate chips and adventure cards and the like. Further review of your characters will have to wait until I'm feeling better.
Beliefs/Goals and Instincts
Here are the description of these concepts from the original Burning Wheel books. I will be allowing 1-2 Beliefs, and the same number of Instincts for the purpose of this campaign. If you have any questions no the below then please ask.
These concepts can be a bit hard to wrap your head around, but what it comes down to is that Beliefs should be your character's current goals, what is important to your character right now, and what is he going to do about it. They need to have a specific, attainable goal. It's all well and good to say that your character wants to retire rich and comfortably, but that isn't something that's going to be resolved in the game. An appropriate belief for that would be something like the below
The first one is fairly straight forward, kill Hairy Jim and collect the bounty. The second one could be accomplished a few different ways. Stage some conflicts between the two (dress up like members of one and fight the other), or could be done through more subtle manipulations.
Instincts meanwhile, are a mechanical cheat. "When startled, draw my sword". "Always have a clean knife". "Always keep a round in the chamber". They allow you as players to say "even though I haven't told you my character has done this, he will".
Alright, well I think we've all had more than enough rules discussion for now, so I have opened up the discussion thread, and will soon be posting the intro as well.
The few things that need to be done ASAP:
If everyone can please head to the Discussion thread, I will be bringing up the topic of my Beliefs and Instincts houserule there (everyone should have a good enough grip on their character now :)
Having armed and equipped himself once again, dressed in ill-fitting clothes, and a couple days hence Cash Out returns to the scene of his awakening. He finds the place much as he remembered it, dirty, graffitied and empty. Apart from his own footprints there is little to indicate anyone else's passage. and located as it is, several blocks from the shopping district of downtown, he gets some funny looks from passersby as he rummages around the area.
Ranging out from the street he finds no signs of how he got there, and what he does remember from before provides little insight. He's somewhat doubtful the V'Sori decided to just dump him back on the street after all.
Peering down yet another alleyway it takes Cash a few moments to realize that the pile of dirty rags leaning against one wall is in fact, a person. The realization is sped significantly when the hobo sits up, eyes wide as he stares at Cash.
"Abomination! he yells, fumbling at the collar of his soiled shirt, pulling out a wooden cross. "The arms of God be around my shoulders! The touch of the Holy Spirit upon my head." he chants, using the wall to climb to his feet while holding the cross out to Cash with his other hand.
The Omegans find unity difficult in the wee hours of the morning, smelling of the sewers with empty bellies. They go their separate ways for the time being, though most end up back at the warehouse with nowhere else to go. Belle finds Oz rather distraught at having awoken to find her gone, but calms quickly enough now she's back.
End of mission, time for XP and bennies to be reset :) Do you guys want to bother with the adventure deck or not? I don't think anyone's used theirs. Same question regarding Beliefs and Instincts, I should have been reminding you guys a bit more, but your beliefs should change relatively frequently to reflect your character's current priorities, it's fine to have one as a longer term goal, but you should be completing beliefs every 2-3 sessions or so. Please answer in the discussion thread.
Happy-Jack in particular, yours are fairly vague and you've only got one of each.
A relatively easy mission this time, so I'll award everyone a base 2 XP. If you'd like to petition me for more then please do so in the discussion thread. DA you can have an extra benny for next session, you found a secret base, there just wasn't anything you could use there. Belle you drop back down to three bennies this 'session'
Well, let me just say that this isn't like Pathfinder, you don't need to have a balanced party or have all the knowledge skills, mostly because there aren't a bunch of set knowledges. The free skill points are there so you can give your character some flavour and a bit of extra utility. So pick a hobby, something that you think may be applicable to the campaign, or just something your character likes and chuck a couple points in, you never know when your knowledge of say... the Union Postal Service, might come in handy ;)
@Jean-Luc Did you write down your character's worst Nightmare? Had a look and couldn't see it, but your posts are a bit scattered, so if you have just point me in the right direction :)
@T.J. Some of the information may transfer over as the seedy side tends to occur everywhere, but it may on occasion lead you astray as well :) Law could also come in handy, but be less flavourful, so it's up to you which you take.
@Dr. I Wish I had of known about that before I typed all the edges and hindrances up for you guys :p Ahh well, everyone should probably check that out, it has additional setting information and stats relevant to this campaign.
As to what year, the game will be starting in December 1879.
@Abram Ahh, well no harm done, so we only had one player that dropped out then :) As to the gun I'm fine for you to call it whatever you want, just as long as I know what stats it's using and how much it costs. Hmm, is yours the single action, or double action version? Guessing double since you said it was the most expensive one.
I managed to find the Rifle Boot (different page completely but oh well), but not what it does. Care to enlighten someone less familiar with guns?
Well, since Rigor and Anthony haven't posted anything it looks like we have our party. PWO/Dr I/DA please send your character soon. Will finish looking over everyone's backgrounds shortly.
Well the Strength was only a suggestion, don't need to spend it there, especially if you've got a horse now to carry some of it. Speaking of... your horse seems healthy if a bit disagreeable, it tends to bite you if you're not careful.
Gear looks good now, except I'm not sure what guns you're using, can you give me the name it uses in the player's book? Also where it mentions a Rifle Boot, sure I read that, but can't find it now.
As per the power's description, yes multiple boosts or lowerings do stack, but power points and durations have to be tracked for each use separately.
The only problem I see is that your money remaining total and mine don't match up, and you seem to be encumbered with all that gear (-1 to Strength, Agility, and related skills). According to my Hero Lab you should have $91 left, not 69.7, suggest double checking and let me know.
Yeah I was thinking about making you pay for William's gear. I'll stat him up and get back to you :) Otherwise looks good. I'll get back to you about your PM.
Still need to spend your knowledge skill points.
Alrighty, everything looks good. You don't really need to have two saddlebags though, so you could save yourself $5 there. The only other thing is your Knowledge Underground, What exactly is this meant to represent? the New York Underground specifically, or something else? I would appreciate it if you'd clarify it a little.
Alright, looked over the sheets that I have, still have to review backgrounds etc.
First comment, everyone (except Michael/Davachido) has neglected to spend their free knowledge skill points as mentioned under house rules in this post. Please make sure you do that.
Secondly, given the campaign this is I will be enforcing encumbrance rules and tracking costs and expenditures carefully. If it isn't on your sheet then you don't have it, so if you have bought nothing but weapons and ammo, then your character is running around naked except for his holsters and the box of ammo he is carrying (and will likely be arrested). Don't forget, your character can always buy 'El Cheapo' equipment if he's stretched for cash.
From a mechanical standpoint:
You could solve both of these problems by increasing your strength to a d6, but it's up to you :) Also please note the above with regards to knowledge skills and gear/equipment.
$161 is a LOT of money to be running around with too. Please see above and consider spend some of this so that you're not... ya know, naked.
Well, pretty much everything, it was only after I started looking at the characters I realized you'd only put down your hindrances and some thoughts on edges :p
In answer to your earlier question, yes I'd allow Chi Focus to work with Shuriken.
As to issues with your sheet, you list him as speaking 3 languages, I would like you to choose one of those as his native tongue, and then suggest you spend your 3 free knowledge skill points on Knowledge (__ Language), you only get one language for free. At a d4 you are generally able to follow along with a conversation, but rapid speech or heavy accents will give you trouble, a d8 is representative of being fluent in that language (with an accent, and some problems with idioms and the like), while a d12 is fluent and able to imitate regional accents and be very good and tongue twisters and the like
The other issue I see is that you list a few weapons, but do not otherwise mention what gear your character has. Please see the note above in regards to equipment, at the moment the only thing your character would be carrying is a single shuriken one set of nunchaku, and $217
You don't seem to have bought any gear, and are thus buck-ass nekkid, otherwise your character seems fine :)
No major problems with your character, you are heavily encumbered but I'm assuming some of your gear would be on your horse? From what I'm seeing you could wear your clothes and weapons, but would have to leave the spare ammo and canteen on your horse with it's saddle and bags, which would bring you just under 20lbs. Ballsy starting with no cash though.
Well, you still have to spend your other edge, or alternately take an extra attribute bump or skill points/cash.
I also couldn't find a couple of your pieces of gear, specifically the vest, suspenders, and mustache wax. Where did you find those and their prices? $192 is a LOT to be running around with as well, so maybe spend a little more. A horse and equipment (saddle, saddlebags) may be useful depending on how you guys end up choosing to travel.
Alright, recruiting closed, those two below in italics who still haven't posted their characters should do so within the next day or else you're out.
The list (again if I've missed you, I apologize, let me know)
Still haven't had a chance to look at characters in detail, but I figured I'd compile a list of applicants for reference.
Mark Sweetman - Wise-cracking Huckster
Italics means I don't have any mechanics from you so far. If you feel I have misrepresented your character in my summary (or have missed you completely) then please let me know, that's just my impression from skimming your concept/sheet. New people can still feel free to submit otherwise likely to close recruitment to new entries in about 14-16 hours.
@kdtompos: Yeah what Mark said in regards to Huckster, the game sometimes uses a number of terms interchangeably for different mechanical things but they all round down to about the same thing.
We will indeed be starting at novice Arknight, but if I get some nice, thought out, and detailed backgrounds (particularly if it includes all the stuff from the ten-minute background) then I may be willing to award some starting XP.
I'm... not really sure on the SRD front, but it's relatively cheap to pick up the Savage Worlds rules. The latest version, Savage Worlds Deluxe can be picked up for just $10 in what is called the Explorer's Edition format. Doesn't look like Paizo has that version for some reason, but it's the latest printing so if your LGS has anything Savage Worlds it should have it. You can also order it onling from the publishers directly, or buy the PDf for the same price.
The Flood is set somewhere around the end of the Rail Wars, yeah, won't say more than that. I do remember looking at a PDF of the original Deadlands book and it's horrendously complicated, card based character gen system. So yeah, mechanics-wise it's a completely different system with only a few similarities to it's precursor (poker hands for duels and hucksters, fate chips instead of bennies are the ones I'm aware of)
@ Davachido: Well, just make sure you keep the player knowledge separate :)
@Rigor: Well if you need any help let me know. Assuming you still have the book I suggest rereading the setting information to refamiliarize yourself, particularly with the California info. Character creation starts on page 29 in the Explorer's Edition (the latest printing of the rules, believe the content is the same as the larger format though) with character archetypes.
Hey PWO, no not at all, Mus'ad AKA Mark Sweetman already found this too :p I'm not too sure how much has changed since the classic deadlands, I know at least a year has past in setting but other than that I don't really know. It looks like we're going ahead with the Flood at this stage, so as I said above, submit whatever you'd like, just make sure your character has a reason to be on a train bound for California.
Oh the Veteran of the Weird West edge Davachido? Heh, go right ahead *smiles at you over steepled fingers*
So at the moment we have a Russian Mad Scientist with some prosthetic limbs, a wiseguy Hexslinger, a happy-go-lucky (though probably not if he goes for Veteran of the Wierd West) gunslinger, and two as yet undclared others that have expressed interest.
Belle's Smarts (Telepathy): 1d10 ⇒ 31d6 ⇒ 5
You can only get so much for free DA :p and they're still pitch black, you can just 'see' fine.
The four remaining Omegans argue their way back to the hideout, finding it once again a big empty space with all of the Professor's fancy furniture and other decorations gone.
Belle's attempts to contact the Professor meanwhile runs into a strange mental static which she suspects--unlike her try against Doctor Destruction--is some sort of active blocking effect protecting his thoughts. She manages to get a brief sense of his mind, before a flash of anger from the other end causes it to disappear in a wash of white noise.
Rigor Rictus wrote:
For a take on the Western Movie in Australia, have you ever seen Quigley Down Under? I enjoyed it a lot, though it may be full of all sorts of inaccuracies about Australia and her peoples of course. It's an american movie, so of course depicts a good american coming down to Australia and killing all the evil Australians. There are good Australians too, but they need an american to save them... ;) All in all, its an interesting take on the Western.
Can't say I've heard of that, no. Sounds fairly typical for representations of Aussies outside of Australia though :p
As far as cards go (which are used for a lot more in Deadlands than they are in most other savage worlds; duels, and hucksters/magic being the primary additions) I was intending to make draws from my own deck and post them. I normally like to narrate character's results anyway, so while it would slow things down it shouldn't be too bad.
Posting requirements everyone should be checking the site at least once a day, you may not have to post depending on what's going on but that ensures we're not waiting 3 days for someone to post or respond to a question because they thought it wasn't their turn. Weekends are likely to be a bit slower as I'm usually either working, or gaming with my RL group. I work shift work so when I get 2 or 3 long (8 to 12 hours) shifts in a row it tends to sap by ability to post as well, I'll try to keep you guys informed when that will be the case. If you're going to be doing something or going somewhere that will leave you with reduced internet access or otherwise unable to post I just ask that you post and let us know beforehand.
Other administrative thoughts while we're on it:
Any other questions please feel free to ask. Since nobody has expressed disinterest in it, or a strong interest in one of the other options, I am going to be running The Flood plot point campaign. You can all start to work on your characters, the only thing you need to work into your characters is a reason for them to be on a Denver-Pacific train bound for California. Character creation is standard for starting characters (Characters are all Human and get a free edge, 5 points for attributes, 15 points for skills, and $250 in the currency appropriate to their background. If you are a foreigner with the outsider hindrance, then I suggest putting some skill ranks into Knowledge (English Language), otherwise communication could be troublesome.).
Just two House Rules that I can think of for the moment:
As much as I like Pathfinder, really not interested in converting this. I said above half the reason I want to play it is because I like the savage worlds rules (which this uses), they're really simple and flexible, and just easier to run than PF.
It is an interesting setting, and you should be able to 'find' the rules somewhere online, just make sure you get the rule for Deadlands Reloaded, not one of the other variants or the 'classic' rules which use a different system completely. Savage Worlds is pretty easy to learn too, so if you're interested then I suggest you check it out (you can also buy the latest version of the core rules, Savage Worlds Deluxe for $10 in print, which has most of what you need)
Ahh don't worry about the Flora and Fauna, the Marshal's Guide is full of that stuff *grins* You'll be running into some of that stuff regardless of the type of game, just depends whether you want that to be a focus or not.
For those not familiar with it, the Flood adventure is set in what's left of the Californian coast, which after a great quake in 1868 largely collapsed into the sea, leaving behind a strange Maze of towering landmasses, and ocean filled trenches.
It also had the side effect of uncovering masses of gold ore and ghost rock deposits, resulting in the creation of undreamed of mechanical contraptions by so-called 'mad scientists', the advent of the Great Rail Wars to be the first to create a transcontinental railway in order to secure some juicy government contracts, and rumors of 'dragons' and other terrors lurking amidst the crumbling spires, and pirate stalked waters. With food a scarcity, no government to speak of outside the major cities of Lost Angels and Shan Fan, and a greedy Mexican General eying the riches on offer from across the border, the region is not a place for the faint of heart.
Heh, maybe a run-in with Ned Kelly caused him to reconsider his vocation ;) Hmm, now I'm wondering what effect the Reckoning would have had on Australia... similarities between the Native Americans and the Aborigines, wouldn't have quite the same feel though.
Anyway, those are character ideas, any thought on the campaign itself? Not sounding like a military or Native American campaign at the least
Greetings fellow forum goers! After watching a couple Clint Eastwood classics (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly ftw!), and a desire for more Savage Worlds goodness in my life I'm looking at starting a Deadlands Reloaded game here on the forums.
That's where you guys come in, I have The Flood plot point campaign, but have a few other ideas as well, and am open to suggestions, so if you're interested in playing some Deadlands, then post and let me know what you want to try :) The ideas I've had are for things such as:
Warning: I'm Australian, so most of my knowledge of this time period in America comes from watching movies, I'm bound to get details wrong, horribly bungle 'accents' and have characters that are horrible, offensive stereotypes. I mean no disrespect to anyone. You have been warned ;)
Mus'ad leads the way back through the caves, taking an occasional 'shortcut' and finally emerges into the sewers, where DA is able to navigate a bit more readily, and directs their stalwart 'friend' away from taking them straight back to the waterworks. The cell emerges a couple blocks south of the structure, smelling a little the worse for wear from their traipse through the sewers, but otherwise relatively unscathed. Burning clothing may be a good idea.
I'll give you guys a day or so to tell me what you're doing, otherwise I'll post with you guys back at base.
Even with recordings navigating down here proves troubling, Rebecca is not (currently) equipped with any sort of mapping equipment, and the caves are pitch black and winding. DA would eventually be able to get himself out, but Mus'ad seems much more confident.
Where is Mus'ad leading everyone then? :p
DA finds that what wasn't shredded by Mus'ad's fists has disappeared under at least a thin layer of rubble. The right side of the chamber has collapsed completely and the air is thick with dust. Apart from that the smell is actually not too bad down in the caves; the Omegans past one suspiciously odoriferous pool dripping from a wall on the way here, but otherwise the caves are fairly dry and cool.
Belledonna: 1d10 ⇒ 11d6 ⇒ 5
Devil's Advocate: 1d10 ⇒ 51d6 ⇒ 5
Happy-Jack: 1d6 ⇒ 51d6 ⇒ 2
Mus'ad: 1d4 ⇒ 21d6 + 1d6 + 1d6 ⇒ (6) + (6) + (3) = 15
Mus'ad am brainiest! (feel free to look above)
It is as the group is attempting to exit the tunnels that they realize how deep into unfamiliar territory they are. Displaying some sort of animal instinct for navigation Mus'ad finds the other's feeble attempts pitifully amusing, but deigns to lead the way out and back towards Southpoint.
So... where/how are you guys exitting?
Yeah, unless you're character is not present it never hurts to post a 'this is what I'm doing' post, since it lets everyone know you're paying attention and haven't been lost to RL or other concerns.
Even if you're not present, I'm perfectly happy to maintain several tangents; it's one of the benefits of play-by-post that a DM can split the party without splitting his focus. I really would like to get some more input from you guys, and have you go off and do your own things, if you start straying to far then I'll let you know, so don't worry about that :)
I've also been meaning to remind you guys about your beliefs and instincts, they can be updated at any time and earn you extra bennies and experience. This mission's just about over, but please review your beliefs ready for the next one :)