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CommandoDude wrote: hosts never reminded me about my debt or asked to collect pizza money so it slipped my mind. Same happened at my last meeting. I was never called/emailed/or talked to at any game (even by the DM) about this. Don't make other people keep track of your debts, That can generate bad feelings. How much does art really matter to you Art is seldom a deal-maker or -breaker by itself, but I do judge art quality when evaluating an RPG book. It can influence my opinion at least of how well a book is put together, and whether I will keep an eye out for future products by the same company. Now, if the game itself sucks, not gonna get it no matter how pretty it is, as SlimGauge notes. And if I am already familiar with a system and I like it, I will buy the product absolutely regardless of art quality. BUT if I am looking at a system for the first time and the art is distracting because it's bad or poorly placed, then it may influence my decision to put the book down and not give the system a chance--mostly just because I have trouble reading the system because of the poor design. Furthermore, if a product contains artwork I personally find offensive -- women are only portrayed as sexualized victims and never as heroes (the infamous half-naked ritual sacrifice victim, for example); offensive racial stereotyping, etc. -- then I absolutely will not buy the product because I do not back with money things that encourage values I consider negative and hurtful. If I heard someone on the street call someone a derogatory name and then ask me to buy the wares they were selling, I wouldn't, so I wouldn't do any sort of equivalent. Other considerations for artwork that may influence my purchase/support: - Does it look like a non-artist scribbled a sketch and scanned it in?
I would honestly prefer simple, clean line drawings or even meticulously chosen clip art/stock art/stock photos than badly drawn artwork -- or even no art at all. If you lay out your book well, I may notice there's no artwork, but I will respect it more than if you insert a picture of ridiculously scaled adventurers that look like you paid your 9 year old sister 50 cents to draw it for you. - Does it have anything to do with what's on the page?
- Has it been shoved into the layout willy nilly or does it use the space wisely?
- Are the artistic styles consistent with each other?
But it does bug me if a publisher has hired obviously several different artists who have very different, conflicting styles of artwork. If on the first page I see a gorgeous painted piece of pseudo-realistic fantasy artwork, and on the next page I see a cel-painted-style piece of Japanese-comic-style art, and then on the next page after that I see your 9 year old sister's disproportionate adventuring party in pencil sketch, then no. I'm okay with differing styles--every artist does things a little differently--as long as they are still complimentary. Think about how a museum curator might arrange paintings on a wall. He may put Matisse and another expressionist together, even though Matisse's picture has stronger colors and the other expressionist has sharper, darker, cleaner lines, but they still compliment each other in some way. But a curator will probably not put an Andy Warhol next to Da Vinci (unless they're specifically trying to make a point) -- both good artists, but their artwork will probably distract from each other and make each piece harder to appreciate. Freehold DM wrote: To me, that last is what hurts most of all. Oooh, the pain of hurt male pride! We joked about this a few times. And about her preferred males. And about my preferences when it came to females. We managed to convince each other that the other one completely lacks the good taste when it comes to sexual desire. We do managed to take a common stance that one of her friend from studies is gorgeous, however, despite K's having little interest in women.facepalms at an email she just received Sometimes I think I should carry around notecards that say, "There's a difference between being socially awkward and being a jerk. Learn it." (This applies in both my personal and professional lives. My profession seems to attract those who are... eclectic and often socially inept. And I'm a geek who hangs out with a lot of geeks, for whom inclusiveness often seems to translate to tolerating jerkish behavior.) Lindisty wrote:
Yea, that annoys the hell out of me. That and not using the acceleration lane, to you know, accelerate! And not leaving space so that the cars can actually zipper, like they are supposed to. wanders in, looking frazzled Why, oh why do so many people use merge lanes incorrectly? As I understand it, the whole point of a merge lane is to let one adjust one's velocity to prevailing traffic before merging into the next lane. Coming to a screeching halt at the beginning of the merge lane defeats that purpose, and puts one at risk of of being plowed into by the next car in line. (Why yes, I narrowly avoided an accident this morning, why do you ask?) Magnu123 wrote: I like the QUILTBAGPIPE concept, but I think Freehold DM may be treading around an important topic. When sexuality-based rights and support groups gather, from my experience, they tend to include a lot of the minority or "otherly" sexualities. I understand that those people who face the most consistent adversity are those who are different. I also wonder if this "misfits club" for lack of a better word, does not end up becoming less open and inclusive than it claims to be. Again, I like the concept, but I can say from personal experience that I have gone to pride centres and related events and experienced a lot of hostility for being an "outsider". Am I the only one who has had this experience? I've noted earlier on that as a queer/bi woman, I've felt uncomfortable amongst certain groups of homosexuals because they tended to give me the cold shoulder. I definitely got the "outsider" vibe, if not the "yeah right, like you really exist" treatment. I find this to be more often amongst urban groups, where there are enough people of a given sexuality to that many of them get together and form their own subculture. It definitely sucks to feel left out--not to mention downright hypocritical to say "I want the right to express my sexuality without being discriminated against! But you, 'bi girl', you don't get to ask for that same right." But at the same time, from an external point of view, I understand where this comes from. If you belong to a minority--in the broadest sense of the term--that is often unfairly stereotyped, discriminated against, and even beaten because you're different, you (by which I mean a human being) tend to seek out people like yourself. You band together and put up your "group armor" to defend yourself. At the start, this is as a protective instinct, to fend off legitimate threats of the "norm" or "other" who are actively intending to be hurtful to you. But as you also come to celebrate your differences and be proud of them--there's a weird, human tendency to start denigrating those who are different from you. You've formed your group, you've found your place you belong and where you feel like what makes you different makes you special--and thus, the outsiders can't be let in or else you lose your specialness. When you often feel powerless in the outside world, you exert the power you have within your sphere of influence to make the "others" feel like you do in their world. It's part of human nature. Hell, as a GAMER, I understand where this comes from. While gamers don't usually face the severity of discrimination that TLGBQ folk (it's possible, but we're much less likely to be fired or killed for playing D&D). But we are weirdos, people say crazy stuff about us, we band together, and we become proud of our gamer selves. And we also become elitist. That the others, the "normals," the "non-gamers"--I have frequently seen gamers treat them as stupid, as boring, as the people who "just don't get it," as non-valid to be their friends or associates. I've done it myself, sad to say, and more often than I'd like to admit. And I've seen any other number of subcultures and factions and various ways human being subdivide themselves do the same thing. It is not a phenomenon unique to homesexuals or anyone else in the TLGBQ (QUILTBAGPIPE?) spectrum. And at least in the urban queer community I live closest to now, I've seen a lot more openness than I used to. I feel like I could go to Pride this year with a "I'm BI!" t-shirt or whatever and not have stuff thrown at me (I have literally feared that very thing in the past). I've seen a lot of queer groups precisely with that identifier, and seen people in that group truly be welcomed, whether queer themselves or straights allied with the organization's purpose. So I think as that community continues to gets its bearings, it will get past the exclusivist defenses so many subcultures put up--and I think a lot of folks understand they have to do that, if they truly are fighting for diversity recognition and equal rights for everyone. I would like to mention a few things: 1. There are tangible health benefits to having sex. As well as tangible health risks for not having sex. If you consider STDs and pregnancies "taken care of" then the bottomline is that sex-havers are healthier than sex-not-havers. 2. People can get pregnant and get STDs when successfully abstaining. This usually involves rape, and is more common than people let on. 3. There's a tangible benefit for couples that do have sex before marriage: their relationship deepens and becomes more intimate. (And should they find themselves sexually incompatible - everybody involved is glad that it got sorted out before wedlock.) Emperor7 wrote:
I once broke my toe during a performance of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat but roughed it out to finish the show and do three more that weekend. Performing arts are hazardous to one's health. Forgot to mention that my daughter danced in the city parade Saturday, for an early Memorial Day. She slipped on the rain fresh pavement and scraped her knee pretty badly. She bounced right up and got back to the routine. Then finished the mile route. So proud. Of course she was miserable afterwards, but that's OK. It is also odd that his injuries aren't consistent with being hit from behind, which is what would happen if he was walking away. His injuries (and the reports) are consistent with him getting in a shoving match that escalated into him getting his ass kicked before he pulled out his gun and shot a 17 year old kid he had been harassing because he didn't think he belonged in his neighborhood. I mean technically, that still leaves them as extra-dimensional aliens. They are not human, nor residents of earth and they live in another dimension. Of course, that description would also apply to most mythological gods. Erik Freund wrote: Please, please, make extra, extra sure all these cards are completely error-free. The nature of the product really necessitates that. If you want a nice add on to the Buff Deck I would suggest our Buff Sheet, best of all it's free. Enjoy! Treppa wrote:
I know, right?!? So unfair. Last day on the old job! Tuesday, a whole new place...and JEANS EVERY DAY! ::does the happy JEANS EVERY DAY dance:: Betty White wrote:
I walked into a FLGS this afternoon and looked at the meetup board there. There was a very long advertisement posted, printed and formed to look like a handwritten scroll. One of the points listed was 'if you write or speak in l33t, don't bother'. The e-mail at the bottom was 'g33k4l1f3@yahoo.com'. -_- Good morning all - I am off to work, in my role as a minion for an exceedingly evil financial institution. I wish I had a fun job... all I do is make sure the software works..... We had a fun lunch with Mothman and family on Sunday... Mrs 8D wasn't too happy with her blue cheese and tomato soup it didn't taste as nice as she expected it to. But the roast lamb and veggies as well as Mrs Mothmans chocolate cake more than made up for it. Geb and Nex were best of friends, all the time. Legions upon legions of their 'apprentices' (who would themselves be considered master mages in any other land) met on the field of battle, losing their lives in an endless state of 'war' between the two nations, weeding out the weak and pruning the ranks of those whose power and ambition was growing to become a threat to their masters. Great amalgamate beasts came from the fleshforges of Nex to test their might against the cobbled-together bone-and-spirit abominations of Geb, as each refined their craft, and testing them against each other's creations, each raising their art to its pinnacle in this way. The creation of Arazni served as a breaking point in their centuries old friendship, as Nex felt that Geb was spending too much time catering to the mad whims of his new wife, and, truth to told, he grew somewhat jealous, shuttering himself away to engage in more esoteric research into the construction of demiplanes. By the time Geb's 'honeymoon was over,' he turned to find that Nex had left the mortal planes entirely, and left no forwarding address. Rumors that Geb killed himself out of despair are purple prose, at best. Furious that she was second in Geb's affections to his old rival/friend, Arazni throttled Geb in their bed, only to be frustrated by his stubborn refusal to leave this world, not because of any desire to be revenged upon her, but, even more maddeningly, to her eyes, out of a lingering desire to remain behind, in case his old friend Nex resurfaced... Set wrote:
What no one save Abadar knows: Asmodeus neither created nor was pushed into the prison, Asmodeus IS the prison that keeps Rovagug held firm. Abadar fashioned the godcage with the most unique material in all the planes that he knew could never be broken or would ever yield: Asmodeus' pride. A few class specific ones: -Summoners are all actually servants of Rovagug, though it's quite possible they don't know it. The rituals through which they summon their eidolons actually tap into Rovagug's prison, allowing small portions of it's power and consciousness to manifest in the world as the eidolon itself. At their peniultimate levels of power, the essence of Rovagug is sufficent to actually overwhelm the foolish mortal who calls on it! Why do these shards of Rovagug do what the summoner tells it to? Because it doesn't care: sooner or later even the most well intentioned summoner will use the power offered for destruction, and that's all that interests it. Of course, eventually there might be enough summoners that the barriers of its prison are entirely and permanently breached. The more people who turn to being summoners, the closer that day comes... and given how often folks who see a summoner functioning determine they need that power to overcome it... -Inquisitors don't actually draw their powers from their faith or a diety: it is secretely bestowed upon them by Inevitables that have just plain gotten fed up with mortal hypocrisy. If a mortal claims to be faithful and betrays that claim, they open themselves up to being called to accounting for it. -Arcane casters of all varieties get their powers through selling their souls to (insert chosen entity here). While most of them claim this is objectively false, you certainly didn't expect them to admit it, did you? And hey, look, I've got some bat poop here myself, but it doesn't become a great ball of fire for me, even when I say the same words! -Monks are secretly attempting to merge Golorian with the various other planes of existence. Why else would they be turning themselves into outsiders, except to be better prepared for their new environment? Alternately, monks aren't attempting it but 'know' (through science, prophecy, whatever) that it is happening, and are preparing because of that. (I have far too throbbing a headache right now to read all the posts, so excuse me if I repeat something someone else has already mentioned) As someone who's worked with schools quite a bit, I can say that your average public school is the product of decades of pulling in every possible direction by all manner of political, religious, corporate, sociological, and other interests. It's an impossible and ridiculous balancing act attempting to please everyone while simultaneously upholding all sorts of outdated precedents (summer vacation vs. the far more effective year-round schooling, for example). Everyone you can possibly imagine has had their fingers in the pie of public education, and it's pretty thouroughly fingered as a result. The administrators I've worked with do their best within the extremely narrow confines they are allowed, but unfortunately, as the OP mentioned, oftentimes this results in just defaulting directly to the parents. And can you blame them? These days, if you insult a kid in any way, directly or indirectly, you're looking at the possibility of a lawsuit and/or really bad publicity. Of course most parents are sensible enough not to resort to being litigious bullies, but enough are to scare the crap out of modern schools. Who's to blame? Well that's actually irrelevant. The real question is, will it be possible to restore sanity to an increasingly insane system. Spoiler!:
No Is there any other FAWTLy looking forward to the August minis release like I am?!!! I can't wait to get all those minis in my hands. Also if anyone wants to imagine what my pathfinder room looks like just imagine Scrooge McDucks vault only with minis instead of coins. :P I was in NYC one time--I don't remember when, pre-9/11--walking through Tribeca, when I saw Giuliani and his entourage walking down the street in my direction. As we got close, there was a homeless dude sitting on the sidewalk who yelled out "Hey, Mr. Mayor! Give me a dollar!" Giuliani looked at him and smiled but just kept walking. The bum then yelled out "I voted for Dinkins, a&*@~!" Hee hee! It's interesting. Here at work, sometimes you good folk come up in conversations. You know, stuff like "well this dude I know from the messageboards I frequent...". And people will aske me "How can you think of people you've never met as friends?" My usual response is a shrug of my shoulders. The way I see it, I'm not really sure I can explain it. It just is. I like you folk, and think of you as friends. Well my promotion to IT Manager became official today, on my birthday. How cool is that? Also IT Manager is misleading as I am also now the IT department. Benchak the Nightstalker wrote:
Also half of the time it is nearly impossible for an average person to get the equipment needed to cook some of his recipes. I mean where the hell can you buy liquid nitrogen without having to fill out a bunch of licences and possibly and interview with homeland security. According to Zimmerman's version of events and possibly corroborated by the 911 recording, when he was told not to go after Martin he stopped chasing him and headed back to his vehicle.
It's not clear to me however how, if he headed back to his vehicle during the 911 call, he wound up several minutes later in an altercation between the rows of houses, not anywhere near his vehicle. I don't think his complete version of events, including the walkthrough he supposedly gave the police, has been made public. The various bits of it I've seen don't seem to match the timeline. I agree it's quite possible he confronted Martin, escalated the confrontation, possibly just by grabbing or pushing him then shot him when Martin fought back and he started losing. It's even possible, given the way the law works, that both parties were justified under this law to defend themselves from perceived danger.
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I have a Chinese "historical" movie that tells me Zombies are the pupa stage of Vampires. If they eat enough brains they transform into vampires. If this is true, when you become a Abervampire, will you be a sparkly one Aberzombie? Freehold DM wrote:
swoons Oh my! Your post count. It's so... big... and impressive!(It's good to see you again, too, FHDM. :)) Gandal wrote:
I thought the original configuration of the SDF-1 was only 3/4 mile long, and when "standing" it would probably only gain a few hundred feet... the "leg" sections extend, but the booms of the main gun actually slide down and back... </nitpicking> "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
CommandoDude wrote:
The longsword is a baseline martial weapon. d8, 19-20x2. It's basically the standard of combat weapons. The other standard is the Battle Axe, d8 20 x3. In PF, at high levels, the +1 dmg over a scimitar is neglible...you want crits. If you go two handed, you want a bigger weapon, and go Greatsword for the +2.5 dmg. The longsword was the result of the evolution of almost two thousand years of swordsmithing. It was decently effective against armor, flexible, fast enough to duel with those in lighter armor, and usable for stabbing, hacking, slicing, and crushing, used properly. It is literally the pinnacle of the swordsmith's art. However, it fell out of favor when armor became unimportant. Rapiers exist for dueling other men in no armor. In a real fight, they'd get bent into uselessness rapidly, and would certainly be of little effect against something with good natural armor. Rapiers don't even do well against most shields. A longsword is too slow for something as speed dependent as dueling, and so fell out of favor. Too, our world has no great monsters to ply weapons against. If it did, I imagine spears would be far, far more important in the game then they are portrayed. Now, historically, axes and maces are better weapons to use against armor. However, axe wielders and mace swingers die fighting swords. Spear wielders die unless they can keep swords at reach...there's a historic African king who tested this by splitting up his forces and equipping half with swords, the other half with spears...the latter were slaughtered. The falcata in reality is an extremely unwieldy weapon. It's very tip weighted, and so is effectively an axe you can't wield well with one hand...a slimmer battle-axe, and that's all it should be statted at. You can't thrust with it, or reverse it to smash with the hilt easily. Yes, it can hack through armor...but so can an axe. A falcata wielder going up against a swordsman would be killed by thrustwork he can't emulate. Remember, it's an ANCIENT Iberian weapon...it fell out of flavor because it didn't work. This is also why scimitars and katanas are considered inferior weapons by swordsmiths of the West. They are slicing and hacking weapons, they are not that effective on the thrust, and so lack the flexibility of the straight blades of the west. Sure, they LOOK prettier, but the Crusaders proved over adn over that scimitars against armor didn't work, and longswords against armor did. So, yah, the longsword had pride of place in 1E for a reason. It was the best sword, proven on the anvil of history. Although, technically the bastard sword in 1E was a better weapon...2-8/2-16 when wielded with two hands, and a longsword in one? Bastard swords were statistically the best weapon, flexibility and all. It's just the idea of fighting without a shield for a serious fighting man was an excuse to die, and thus bastard swords' extra damage didn't apply...unless you were a half-ogre, but that's a different argument. ==Aelryinth I haven't looked at this thread for 5 days and there are 1000+ posts to read! I'm not sure when i'll get to that so a big Happy Mother's Day to everybody! On a personal note, I finally got a job this past week although it's a temp position but hopefully it will turn into a something more. Worst case scenario is that it will look really good on my resume when I look again. We'll see... Shifty wrote:
I think you are confusing guilty of a crime that harms society with guilty of being stopped by over zealous police while not white. There is a big difference. I've been stopped and ticketed in NYC twice and arrested and detain once. The arrest resulted in almost a year of court appearances, before the case was thrown out (It was thrown out because the police were found to be selectively editing video used as evidence, among other reasons.) At any point during that year I could have plead guilty to a lesser charge (plea bargain) or accepted an Adjournment in Contemplation of Dismissal (ACD) and avoided month after month of useless court BS. Since I am white, can polish myself up nice, had a clean record (see previous two reasons) and at the time afford to miss work to go to court a dozen times, I fought the changes, and eventually proved myself "innocent". The two tickets were thrown out because I was able to go to court, speak well, and get off on technicalities. Of the 6 charges against me, I was found to be "innocent" of all 6. In other words:
The "Justice System" that I have experience with is based not on keeping people safe, but supporting a large anti-terror/crime organization and it's various prisons, attorneys, politicians, lobbyists, etc. I see the need for a fairly large police organization in NYC (it is a big city) but like many aspects of our government the current system is rotten to the core, and a mockery of the ideal of Courtesy. Professionalism. Respect.(CPR) that the NYPD is supposed to represent. Shifty wrote:
My point was that "Being found as up to no good" is a highly subjective measure that often points to how people are treated by a system rather then what harm they are actually pose to society. For example, every time I drive down the highway, traffic moves at about 60-75mph despite the 55mph speed limit. If cops only pull over the people in beat up cars or black drivers, and ticket them for speeding, then the real crime is not speeding, but driving an old car or driving while black. Note also that by spending money, and being savvy about tickets and past offenses, I can have a clear record, despite repeated violations. If you look at who is being searched and found guilty as opposed to who is using drugs or other illegal activities, you will find vast differences in the numbers. For example, you don't see white guys in suits on wall street getting searched, (or even financially "searched") despite that facts about drug use and corporate crime among wealthy whites. Note statics used by police and prosecutors are like those used by the military.
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