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I smile when people call me rebel scum.
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah ours meat department is legendary around here (so much so it supplies all the bars in the area, which this being Wisconsin, is a lot!) only one check out tho, and we get to go through an old tunnel under train tracks and through some woods, it's an eventful 5 blocks:-D
Who were once the Celestial Masters and the (Void) Exploratores of an earlier age when magic(k?)was stronger have in our age become the void engineers, the great explorers of the Technocratic Union who have numerous space stations and qui la machinae far out in deep space that the unEnlightened cannot see. They have discovered something horrible out there and they are sinking all of their fantastic Wonders into fighting it, sometimes- slowly becoming often- going so far as working with the reviled mages of the Traditions.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
I have heard this argument before and feel it applies nicely to most romances.
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
pops, locks, does the worm in the snow to this song
you are already complaning about the cold!
I'm sorry, but there are dozens upon dozens of modules and adventure paths and even entire campaign settings that strongly and demonstrably disagree with this sentiment in numerous incarnations and editions of this game up to and including the writer of said adventure(s) telling the person running it to not have the players fight in an encounter(Strahd, anyone?).
What you speak of exists, but in the long view, is relatively recent.
Celestial Healer wrote:
indeed, cotct seems to cleave heavily to that line of thought.
*shrug* tastes vary. I do know in my group the golf bag/DR effect was getting really, really old, possibly due to the campaign we had been in beforehand. That said, I am something of a DR fan- I worked it into my rules for masterwork armor for home brew- but not to the extent the writers of cotct are.
the *sigh* builds(I hate that term with a passion born of years of white wolf meta gaming b#**$$+# nonsense) seem fine- this game is a defensive one,after all, and you can't get mad at someone for not wanting to be hit/killed- the problem is crimson throne. I remember playing/reading it several times and a lot of the adventure is not balanced well for a party that isn't built for anti DR/dungeon delving combat. I would drop the DR portions like my DM did- it really meant the difference between life and death.
And yes, the anti front door tropes were...annoying.
my god- they were three steps head of you the whole time!
Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:
that's a ways away from me, more in CH's direction in general. I'm sure she will be fine.
Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
I would make the firing-my-y-wing-ion-cannons sound in response
Consort of The Apocalypse
On occasion, one of Rovagug's worshippers will be struck with an overwhelming desire to kidnap a cleric of another faith, not to slay outright, but to question incessantly. The questions are a strange ramble, starting off with questions related to memories of childhood, then of love, then of geography, then ending with fevered accusations of infidelity before beginning to torture or attack the cleric in question. It was when the gods held a Convocation that they realized all of their servants were being attacked erratically but in greater frequency. Asmodeus, Lamashtu, and Pharasma, who had called the Convocation, put forth the idea that Rovagug was searching for his mate- an entity that split away from him in the Time Before Time- and drove him hopelessly mad in the process. The assembled divinities were in an uproar at the news and only grew more agitated when Asmodeus dropped the bombshell that the Consort of the Apocalpyse was somewhere in their pantheon.
Abadar was aghast at this declaration, but knew something was up when Asmodeus was there intermediating between a god and a demon queen, completing the divine/profane triumvirate(god, demon, devil). He works eagerly with the other gods to find the Consort of the Apocalypse, even working with those whom he privately suspects might be Rovagug's Mate, primarily due to the immense amount of faith he has in the contract and Asmodeus' speech(he knows of his quirk). Abadar has one of his divine servants and exactly 3.14% of his clergy dedicated to the search. He most readily suspects Urgathoa and Lamashtu of being the Profane Consort, and is working on a divine crossbow made of unique metals that he believes will allow him to cripple any god or kill Lamashtu specifically if she is indeed the Consort. While he is not sexist per se, he does not believe the Consort could be male.
If he is indeed the Consort, then he represents Rovagug's other half- creation in the face of destruction. He will willingly sacrifice himself to bring peace to Rovagug and the world.
As one of the gods who called the Convocation, Asmodeus takes this very seriously. He has a special wing of Hellknights created- the darkly entitled Order of Chastity- to search on the mortal world, and has his profane agents search on other planes of existence. Still, he has absolute faith in the prison he has constructed, and focuses on keeping Rovagug contained for now. It should be noted that Asmodeus has also begun construction of a Golden Fiddle not long after the Convocation. Asmodeus does not believe the consort could be male, and he suspects all female deities equally. He is considering letting the real location of Rovagug's prison slip so he can confront the traitoress directly.
It is highly unlikely that he is the Consort, but if he is, he has constructed the Golden Fiddle not to control Rovagug but to lull him into sleep so he can merge with it and eliminate all that exists, and start a new pantheon with him at the head.
Calistria was not overly concerned with the information presented, and does not have any outstanding theories of who the Profane Consort might be. She does not join in any searches for the Consort, although she does not bar any of her servants or clergy from joining in any investigations. She feels the consort is probably a jilted or wronged lover of some sort and will reveal themselves to her in time, as they will seek revenge.
If she is the Consort, nothing else changes. She has no desire to see Rovagug freed, nor does she desire to merge with him, even as the dominant half of the amalgamation. While she does not remember why exactly, she is confident she is punishing him for some great offense. Should her anger soften, she may pay him a conjugal visit, but nothing more.
Cayden was shocked sober at the news( for a few moments anyway), and actively searches for the Profane Consort with the aid of all of his servants and all but his most neophyte priests- about 70% of those he directly and divinely empowers take part in the search. He is privately terrified that one of his friends or lovers could be the Consort, although he most readily suspects the "usual suspects"- Urgathoa or Lamashtu. He could also see a goddess that rejects his(not necessarily erotic) company for unusual reasons might have something to hide(he is wise enough to realize that this might be jealousy talking, but if he is well and truly drunk...). He also suspects Zon Kuthon is somehow involved.
As an ascended, it is highly unlikely that he is the consort, but if he were to be, it would explain why he passed the test of the Starstone even while drunk. Inebriation keeps him muddled enough (drink to forget!) to keep him from seeking Rovagug out, but should he well and truly sober up, he will discover that he is the sliver of goodness that was within Rovagug made sentient, and if this is shared with Sarenrae, she will encourage him to merge with Rovagug of his own free will to redeem it.
Horrified and disgusted at the news, Desna will work with the gods to find the Profane Consort and and will have some of her faithful on the mortal plane join in the search. She openly suspects Lamashtu of being the Consort, but also believes Zon Kuthon. She is privately terrified that Ghlaunder may be the Consort.
If she is in fact the Consort, it will be because the relationship she had with Rovagug grew abusive and she needed to get away. In splitting from Rovagug, she became a goddess of freedom incarnate, and she will nto want to go back to a bad relationship. She will leave this plane entirely rather than go back to/merge with Rovagug.
If Ghulander is the Consort, then Ghulander, Lamashtu, and Rovagug will actually be a tryptarch being composed of Dark King, Queen, and Regent, and she will need to seek out a mate to complete the trinity. Alternatively, she will hunt Ghulander down and kill him, and then commit suicide after dividing her portfolio amongst her friends, although she will invest a great deal of time and energy into bringing Dou Bral back.
Noble Erastil was saddened at this news, and seeks out the Profane Consort as if it were a mad beast that needed to be put down. He assigns his divine servants to seek it out moreso than his mortal clergy- less than 10% of his clerics, paladins and druids participate in the search. He privately enjoys this hunt, as he believes the Consort to be Lamashtu, who slew his mate. Calistria knows of Erastil's urges for vengeance, and has been attempting to seduce him for years.
If Erastil is the Consort, then his lover was killed by Lamashtu out of jealousy, and she wanted to "comfort" Erastil in his grief, but she botched the attempt. In this instance, Lamashtu would have divined his identity from Pharasma in exchange for releasing the Undead/Graves domain.
If Erastil discovers this, he will choose to destroy himself rather than merge with Rovagug, but it also may be the case that Erastil cheated on Rovagug with his lover and may choose to merge with him in order to make amends.
Although he relishes the idea of fighting the Profane Consort, Gorum is apathetic towards the whole thing. He does not ban his clergy from hunting for the Consort, but he does not have his servants join in the search. Gorum truly does not care who the Consort may or may not be.
If he does turn out to be the Consort, Gorum will not change much. He will fight any who attack him and probably kill them. He does not have any interest in merging with Rovagug, even as the dominant entity- he is what he is, a god of war.
Ancient Gozreh matched only Gorum in their apathy towards the idea of Rovagug's herald being somewhere in the Golarion pantheon. While vehemently opposed to Rovagug, Gozreh simply does not seem to extend this hatred to Rovagug's mate. They only have eyes for Rovagug in this, per se. While their servants are not on the lookout for it, they do not restrict their priests from searching for the Consort- maybe 20% of the clergy gets involved. Gozreh most readily suspects Zon Kuthon, Urgathoa, and Lamashtu of being the consort, but they do not act upon their suspicions- they have all of nature to watch over and indeed call upon should violence occur.
It is unlikely that Gozreh is the Consort, but if they were, then they have no problem with Rovagug being sealed away. Together, they had destroyed and birthed nine times nine universes and destroyed them all- Gozreh sees something here that they want to protect. If attacked, Gozreh will defend themselves as best as possible. If self defense presses Gozreh to desperation, then they will merge with Rovagug as the dominant being and then leave Golarion all together- there are other worlds than these
Iomedae was surprised at this declaration- she always thought Deskari was the greater threat and the true herald of the apocalypse. She recovers from her shock quickly, however, and has her servants, both mortal and divine, aid in the search- roughly 80% of her clergy gets involved. Rovagug is a universal threat, and she treats it as such. Surprising for a deity of her nature, Iomedae suspects all of her fellow gods equally- anyone could be a traitor not just to their pantheon but to reality itself, although she does not let paranoia or worse develop, nor does she become less cordial toward her allies- she is a goddess of valor, not stupidity or naiveté.
As an ascended, it is highly unlikely that Iomedae is the Consort, but if she is, it is because Aroden was before her. Aroden killed himself the instant he discovered all he had done and ever would do was because of power essentially granted by Rovagug. Arazni was not slain by Tar Baphon but similarly killed herself when the Whispering Tyrant revealed this information to her during their battle. She went about her suicide the wrong way, however, becoming a lich as a result(the Bloodstones of Arazni were created as she continually attempted to kill her self over and over again, ripping out her regenerated heart each time). In this scenario, Iomedae will first seek out Arazni, slay her, and then find Rovagug, merge with it, and attempt to commit suicide, perhaps with the help of a friend or two. If attacked for being the herald, she will defend herself through non lethal means- she will need that individual's help to kill her and Rovagug should her plan fail.
Although Irori met the declaration with his usual serenity on the outside, deep within he is greatly concerned regarding the Consort. He most readily suspects Asmodeus, but also realizes it might *not* be him because of the fact that he announced it to everyone(although he still COULD be...what a riddle!!!), but also believes that one of the Ascended might be the consort as well: a shortcut to divinity for one sundered from their greater self. He has his clergy watch over clergy of other faiths moreso than join a quest or adventure searching for some great beast- about 35% of his faithful make extended visits to friendly churches or infiltrate not-so-friendly ones. His divine servants search independently, travelling about the world and ending up in unusual places. Irori also suspects the "usual suspects" among the pantheon, but would be almost disappointed if it happened to be one of them- how droll...
If Irori is the consort, he would be almost disappointed at the news. He had worked so hard to separate himself from his baser impulses only to discover that they do yet remain in the world in this horrifying form. He will defend himself if attacked, but will not kill his attacker, seeking to disable them instead. He does not wish to merge with his other half in any way, preferring to spend the rest of time in enlightenment. He may seek out Rovagug to destroy it, seeing himself as the enlightened being and Rovagug as some kind of offal. He may also seek to enlighten Rovagug, but he will not merge with it to do so.
Lamashtu is one of the few beings who knows the identity of the Profane Consort. Lamashtu got this information from Pharasma directly, who knew the lengths Lamashtu would go to to get this information. It is either her or it is not. If it IS her, Lamashtu is overjoyed. She separated from Rovagug because she prefers creation over destruction, being a dark mother at heart. She will not seek to merge with Rovagug or kill him, only seeking him out for his seed to create more spawn. She will merge with him only if she is discovered inflagante indelicante(coitus interrptus), and even then, only to destroy those who discovered them together.
If it is NOT Lamashtu, then she is saddened rather than angered. She will mope, and make at least one halfhearted attempt to seduce the actual Consort(although if it is Shelyn, Lamashtu will stop at nothing to possess or corrupt her), but also might seek to supplant the Consort by seducing Rovagug instead, presuming she can find him. She may also inform other gods third hand(via her servants talking to their servants) of who the consort is and attempt to supplant them that way. Should it come to red war, she will tell everyone who the Consort is and work with them to destroy them, or will bring about the end of days by merging with Rovagug.
Much like Irori, Nethys was unflappable on the surface, but greatly concerned deep down. Despite his insanity, Nethys needs reality to exist for magic to occur. He has his priests and servants join in the hunt- all of his divine clergy and about 70% of the mortal wizards and clerics- and he suspects all gods equally of being Rovagug's Mate. Should the Consort be discovered, he will attack without provocation or prompting, with the aid of Gorum and Irori if possible.
If he is the Consort, Nethys will become an even more fragmented deity, attacking himself in fits of self-loathing, and regularly attempting to commit suicide. Magic becomes unreliable and chaotic, and wizards and sorcerers die by the score in magical accidents. He will not seek to merge with Rovagug in any way, nor will he attempt to fight him for fear of disrupting himself. It may fall to a friend to kill him, but paradoxically, he will defend himself and even Rovagug zealously. If he dies, magic stops working until another god takes up his mantle. This god will go insane, just as Nethys did of course, but magic ceasing utterly, even for a day or two, will plunge the world into chaos..
This news only confirms Norgorber's suspicions about his fellow deities. While he has no evidence, he most suspects all good aligned gods equally, and evil and neutral gods only slightly less. He has about 40% of his mortal faith infiltrate rival faiths with the aim of exposing the presiding deity as the Consort. Sometimes he orders them to slay, other times to subdue, still other times to simply get in, place evidence, and leave. If a god is revealed to be the Consort, he will have his worshippers converge on this rival faith from within and without in an attempt to destroy or subvert the god's faith even as he attempts to claim their portfolio for himself.
As an ascended deity, it is highly unlikely that Norgorber is the Consort, but if he is, then his plan changes only in that he sends out all of his clergy to infiltrate other faiths in a ruse to draw attention away from himself. He does not have his faith kill anyone this time, only discredit them and essentially have everyone suspect everyone else. He will save his most potent blackguards and clerics for Rovagug's faith, as he will eventually attack him and attempt to absorb his essence into himself. He will not attempt to merge with Rovagug unless attacked by another deity or coterie of deities, and even then he will attempt to hold their clergy hostage with his host of assassins and sleeper agents.
Pharasma knows who the Consort is. She does not care. All that ever was or ever will be leads to the Boneyard. She does not motivate or restrict her clergy or divine servants with respect to the search- truly an erratic single digit percentage of the faith partakes in one way or another. If attacked for her knowledge, she will defend herself and call upon others for aid, starting with Asmodeus and Lamashtu. Pharasma is the one one deity that is not and cannot be the Consort.
The oldest god in the pantheon, Sarenrae takes the idea of the Consort very seriously. She has all of her clergy- 100%- work with the faith's allies in the search. She has those she suspects, and pays especial attention to the "usual suspects" although she tempers her suspicion with the compassion that is integral to her nature. When discovered, she will attack the Consort ruthlessly, however, usually attacking alone but not refusing help if offered. She will not extend her mercies to the Consort beyond a quick death. Rovagug, even through a degree of separation, cannot be trusted in any way, shape or form.
If Saranrae is the consort, she will immediately consign her faithful to join with Iomedae or a similar deity before committing suicide. A full solar eclipse occurs when this happens, and will persist until another deity takes up her mantle as the sun.
Shelyn takes this news quite seriously, and encourages her clergy to join in the hunt, although she does not force them to- perhaps 40% of her faithful take part. She and her divine servants will continue her business as usual until the consort is found. On that day, she will march to war, sending her clergy to attack the church of the Consort in full force without mercy. She will readily seek out allies in this, reaching out to her brother first and last, hoping that this may heal the rift between them. If rebuffed she will make sure her brother witnesses her martial skill in the battle ahead for reasons known only to her.
If her brother is the consort, she will remain strangely silent on the matter beyond calling for his capture, not execution. If successful in this endeavor(not easy, even for a goddess such as herself), she will volunteer to execute him herself after a short trial. She will use Whisperer of Souls to do this, and will free every soul within it by doing so. She will then bequeath the weapon onto her former herald, Nadiri, who will become a true goddess of the darker aspects of love.
If she is the Consort, Shelyn will attempt to merge with Rovagug in an attempt to eliminate his destructive impulses with her(arguably) creative ones. She will attempt to be the dominant part of this union.
Stoic Torag was aghast at the news, and speaks to all of his people through his clerics, warning them of this new wrinkle. Once that is done, Torag sits back and waits, having several plans for stopping the apocalypse and having the utmost faith in his clergy- all of whom are commanded by Torag to take part in the search- to see them through. He holds his divine servants in reserve for the moment the Consort is found. In many ways, Torag is the deity most dedicated to the endgame, as he will send in his mortal and divine armies to the battlefield to last dwarf to slay the Profane Consort.
Should Torag be the Consort, the world discovers it through the astonishing sight of the drow abandoning their underground homes and fleeing for the surface world, with duregar close on their heels. The gray dwarves attack surface dwarves as well with their stereotypical disregard/fanaticism, as they take their place as the chosen of Rovagug, the tale of Droskar being a complicated lie. Torag would have split from Rovagug when it was discovered he was a force of creation being smothered by the more powerful Rovagug's force of destruction, and although the split was amicable at first, it was discovered that being separated from each other for as long as they were, that the world was in danger of calcification with Torag eternally creating and Rovagug unable to destroy such creations. The duregar would be Rovagug's agents of destruction in the world, instinctively destroying Torag's children and bringing misery and destruction elsewhere. Despite the perhaps cathartic metaphysical reasons for merging with Rovagug, Torag will not, and will instead embroil his people and the world into a long, drawn out conflict between dwarves and duregar, opposing Rovagug through his servants. This will probably turn Golarion into a post-apocalyptic wasteland as the war being waged under the feet of all surface creatures results in cataclysmic earthquakes and fissures, but Torag will not be swayed. Any attempting to slay him for being the Consort will actually be met with parlay first, as Torag will point out that his children are the ones doing the most to fight Rovagug, but he will defend himself to the death if necessary. If he is ever slain, one of his divine servants will step forward to lead the dwarven pantheon, but the god that slew him will be the enemy of dwarvenkind from that moment forward.
Surprisingly to some, Urgathoa is dedicated to the location and destruction of both Rovagug and his Consort- the end of all would include the end of the physical pleasures she delights in. She dedicates a surprising number of her mortal clergy- 60%- and one of her divine servants to the search for the Consort. Some of her mortal servants do attempt to infiltrate other faiths(about 10% of the aforementioned 60%), they do so out of a genuine desire to find and eliminate the Consort. Urgathoa will work with any deities that approach her, seemingly without reservation or hesitation- all past wrongs are forgotten in the search for this being.
Naturally, Urgathoa has an ulterior motive. She seeks out the Consort not because she wants to destroy it, not entirely. Urgathoa wants to *eat* it.
Her unnatural hunger and hedonism have found the ultimate delicacy in the Profane Consort. She will have her clergy quietly eliminate and devour the occasional member of a faith that the evidence points to and commune with that mortal as to taste and texture. She genuinely believes that the Consort will be the ultimate delicacy, and, should the mood strike her, intimate companionship. That the "good" deities of the pantheon are helping her in her search is the greatest aphrodisiac of all.
Should Urgathoa be the consort, very little changes save for the motivations of the goddess. The long period of time she has spent away from Rovagug has perverted her hunger, and where she was once a hedonistic goddess who simply wanted some alone time, she has become what she is today. She will have her infiltrated clergy slay, defile, and/or devour any clerics of other faiths who come too close to the truth, and she will keep the ruse up for as long as she can. Should she be discovered for the Profane Consort, she will defend herself as best she can and retreat in search of her former mate, utterly abandoning divine servants and mortal clergy both in search of Rovagug and his prison. She will attempt to free Rovagug to either eat him or be devoured by him, merging with him in either way, with one or the other being in control depending on who ate whom. If she is unable to free Rovagug, interestingly enough, she will devour Rovagug AND his prison whole, and go into a strange torpor, possibly serving as an even better prison than the one Asmodeus created.
Disturbed by this news but more focused on the greater picture, Zon Kuthon verifies with Asmodeus that the prison keeping Rovagug imprisoned is secure, and offers the services of at least one of his Divine Servants as another guardian over it. Regardless of Asmodeus accepting or declining this offer, Zon Kuthon then goes about his business as ever, not restricting his faith from participating in the search, but not encouraging it either. When the Profane Consort is discovered, Zon Kuthon will take great pride in displaying a prison of his own design that he has created to house the Consort, a specially designed iron maiden wreathed with chains that will deliver mind-shattering torment even to a god housed within it. He will not want the Profane Consort killed under any circumstances, reasoning that something might happen to Rovagug as a result, and more interested in torturing what he sees to be a traitor.
If the Profane Consort is revealed to be Shelyn, Zon Kuthon will dispense with his prison and instead insist upon fighting her himself in single combat. Should he win, impales her upon the Whisperer of Souls, leaving her alive and in eternal pain. He will then use a godlike take on *minimus containment* to turn her into a living amulet of agony that he will bear around his neck at all times, absorbing her profile and evolving into a more powerful god of pain, filial heartbreak, dark love and obsession.
If he is the Profane Consort, then this will be the reason why Dou Bral took an extended trip between realities. He would have fought against it as best he could, but would have eventually succumbed to this awful truth, slaughtering his father and tormenting his sister. He will do what he can to redirect any inquiries aimed in his direction, but he will subtly make his way to Rovagug's prison to attempt to merge with him if only so that he can finally devour his sister, Shelyn. He will fight and annihilate any and all who come between him and his goal. Should he finally devour Shelyn, he will immediately commit suicide, finally finding the oneness with her that he desired all along.
In my most recent dream, I was at a local high school watching an advance screening of the Assassins Creed animated movie. I sat between my wife and Alexander Skarsgaard, who did one of the voices. He was bullying me the entire time, asking to borrow my phone, for me to get him chips and all sorts of things. My wife asked me to stand up to him and I tried with limited success. The part of the movie that was amaing was where the supposed last assassin found a piece of eden that was stolen from him by a templar, who used it, bringing all the templars killed earlier in the movie back to life, who ganged up on the last assassin and killed him. I was really getting into it, but I had to answer the call of nature. I demanded my phone back from Skarsgaard and ran for the facilities. It turns out that the bathroom doorway was quite small, and I had to walk sideways to shimmy through. The facilities themselves were an ancient water closet, filled with water and an old style pulley handle to flush. I realized this was quite difficult to operate, and then I realized I REALLY had to go to the bathroom, so I woke up.
David M Mallon wrote:
The 1991 song "Pop Goes The Weasel" by hip-hop group 3rd Bass is a diss track against rapper Vanilla Ice. In the music video for the song, the role of Vanilla Ice is played by punk rock icon and former Black Flag singer Henry Rollins.
very sad the group didnt go anywhere.
Celestial Healer wrote:
I like dessert wines.
But, as you know, only during cunnilingus.
Bjørn Røyrvik wrote:
shouldn't have done the crime if he couldn't do the time.
it worries me that you fell for that one.
I did that once with friends, it was hilarious.
Ditto screaming who Luke's dad/sister are at the star wars rerelease.
John Kretzer wrote:
Hey waitaminute- you chose calistria too!
Hey, drink this wine, buddy. I'll see you at the orgy later...
tell me more of these Hero-deities.
I'd love to have a Frozen sandwich for lunch....
I get to choose the participants, mind.