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My son wanted the original set (RotR, IIRC?) and I had reservations about it as I tend to be a 'purist'. The RPG only! However, I gave it a try and my sons and I really like it. I can get my brother to play this, but he doesn't think he has the time to do the RPG.
What does that have to do with this deck? Um, I don't know. Just putting in my .02 for the game itself, I guess.


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Tusk the Half-Orc wrote:
It'sLyz wrote:
Rysky wrote:

But seriously, that's an awesome archetype, it's up there with the Tortured Crusader for my favourite Paladin archetype.

Thankies to whoever wrote it!

You're welcome! It was my favorite of the ex-classes.
I just got my copy in the mail yesterday, and the fallen heroes archetypes are fantastic! I can't wait to make my first fallen cleric of entropy.

Yup, Channeler of the Unknown. Very nice archetype. What do you think of the Planar Extremist? It might be my fave in this book...that or the Channeler.


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Wasn't this an issue with the Inner Sea World Guide? I love that book, but the worst binding of any Pathfinder hardbounds. Still have to be really careful when I flip through that one. :(


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Yippee! Can see Hrym now! Thank you.


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Simple weapon, of course.
Just noticed that no one had mentioned it and was getting the impression people might not know about it.


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If that 1st Steal Book is supposed to be Hrym, then I am disappointed! I would very much like to see Hrym, please?!
Looks very nice overall.


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Is everyone aware that these modifications do require a new feat to avoid penalties? Either Modified Weapon Proficiency or Weapon Adept. Of course Fighters can easily afford that feat tax...others, not as much.


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Yes, Alchemist bombs do half damage. Full damage for Force or Ectoplasmic discoveries.


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Oh, just keep going, Set! I'll pop some popcorn! I see a "Redeemed Hero's Handbook" in the future at this rate.


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Rysky wrote:
I am sad that there's no ex-Barbarian archetype though.

Um...huh?! I was a barbarian, now I am educated?! Nah, not going to work.


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I am envious of your Deathbane Light Crossbow +1. The only weapon I have (which is why I have not increased it with a Card Feat) is a light Crossbow +1.
Now, I have maxed out my Spells because I have some pretty decent ones: Lightning Touch, Acid Arrow, Cauterize, Mass Cure & Cure, one or two others but my favorite by far is Holy Light.
I think my favorite blessing is Pharasma.
Lem (RotR) is a lot of fun to play. I started with Harsk when my son took Lem...he dumped him for Mogmurch and I snatched up Lem. I have always been a Bard player in D&D and Pathfinder.


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That was so eerie! Love to watch Donald Sutherland.

Nice to know that was an influence for this AP.


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Dragon78 wrote:

I will subscribe as soon as it is an option that has no other books before it in this product line.

Fourshadow, it sounds like you only discovered subscriptions recently, when did you first use the Paizo subscriptions?

Over a year and half ago. So, depends on your concept of 'recently'. Just excited is all. :) I've kept my subscription to PC the entire time but dropped and renewed several times with RPG and once with Campaign Setting.


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Dragon78 wrote:
So what are the new drawbacks like?

There are about 10 of them. They include things that have to do with fears, cowardice, impatience, self-doubt, etc.


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SillyString wrote:
Fourshadow wrote:
It is quite intriguing, but I hesitate to divulge it all until available in print.
That's ok, I don't even need to know any ability details, but before I get too excited I would like to know if it is still going to be locked into lawful good & small deity selection with a stick up the butt code of conduct, if at all possible :)

All it says is that they are far more interested in revenge against those who have harmed them or their allies than anything about a deity.


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Oh yes, the ex- class archetypes are really fun! Vindictive bastard for the paladin is pretty good, but not my fave by far. That would have to be the Channeler of the Unknown (ex-cleric) or Planar Extremist (ex-druid)! Those two are amazing archetypes.


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Like they said above, it is a RANGED weapon--1 or 2 handed is dealing with MELEE only.
Most ranged weapons take 2 hands, but do not qualify as a 2 handed weapon.


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Thank you! A very useful site, that one.


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I want this ASAP...so I subscribed! I love that option so very much. Thank you for offering it. Getting the PDF AND the book for the price of just the book is too good to pass up.


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SillyString wrote:

Cant wait to get my hands on this.

What does the paladin archetype trade out? Does it still get spells for example?

Oh, and does it lose its code of conduct/alignment restriction?

Trades out most everything except spells from my perusal of the information...which is interesting, I think. Smite changes, Lay on Hands and Mercy and Channel are all replaced along with Divine Grace, Divine Health, Auras of Faith/Righteousness, Holy Champion. It is quite intriguing, but I hesitate to divulge it all until available in print.


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I count myself very fortunate to have bought this.
It is available via PDF...that is another format. Just not on paper.


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I don't see any issue with Firebrand. Didn't seem wonky or OP to me.

The Storm Caller now vies with First World Summoner (the fey one) as favorite archetype for Summoners.

The Windsong feat may become a 'must have' for my Sound Striker Bard.

This book is fantastic, ladies & gents. Thank you for your creative efforts.


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Fourshadow wrote:
taks wrote:
Fourshadow wrote:

I prefer investigator (Lamplighter, to be exact--free inspiration to Initiative with eventually adding both your Dex AND Int modifiers to Initiative as well is really cool.) with Wpn Finesse plus Agile enchantment on your chosen weapon. Of course, none of our GMs go for Sunder or Steal shenanigans.

Always use Shield extract and the base mutagen at the least. Considering the Fey mutagen line from Legacy of the Fey PC.
I'm an investigator fan myself (for DEX builds, at least). I hadn't ever considered the lamplighter, however. The build I currently run is an empiricist. I was always curious about the focus on light abilities with the lamplighter, and your comment makes me think I should look at it a bit more.
Oh yes, Alchemical Allocation, IIRC. The impressive parts of that ability to me are: 8th level-Searing Light, 11th level-Judgement Light! So darn cool this archetype. One of my faves of all the classes.

Oops. The bolded should have been 'Illumination' (a class ability for this Investigator archeytype), not the 2nd level extract Alchemical Allocation.


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My guess? Busy with other products that are not Pathfinder...grrrrrr.


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Yikes! Have we seen a push back like this one before?! I want to say no, but I'm not certain.


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That would be a "No", Seitz and Kretzer. Nothing specific about them at all in this book.


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The ex-cleric

Spoiler:
Channeler of the Unknown channels a void energy that effects ALL who can be impacted by negative and positive energy alike.

Very cool.
I like the overcharged staff, especially if your character already has resistance to electricity...just stand apart from your allies!


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taks wrote:
Fourshadow wrote:

I prefer investigator (Lamplighter, to be exact--free inspiration to Initiative with eventually adding both your Dex AND Int modifiers to Initiative as well is really cool.) with Wpn Finesse plus Agile enchantment on your chosen weapon. Of course, none of our GMs go for Sunder or Steal shenanigans.

Always use Shield extract and the base mutagen at the least. Considering the Fey mutagen line from Legacy of the Fey PC.
I'm an investigator fan myself (for DEX builds, at least). I hadn't ever considered the lamplighter, however. The build I currently run is an empiricist. I was always curious about the focus on light abilities with the lamplighter, and your comment makes me think I should look at it a bit more.

Oh yes, Alchemical Allocation, IIRC. The impressive parts of that ability to me are: 8th level-Searing Light, 11th level-Judgement Light! So darn cool this archetype. One of my faves of all the classes.


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Let us get back to the Product in this Discussion, shall we?

That cover is my fave since the APG!


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I prefer investigator (Lamplighter, to be exact--free inspiration to Initiative with eventually adding both your Dex AND Int modifiers to Initiative as well is really cool.) with Wpn Finesse plus Agile enchantment on your chosen weapon. Of course, none of our GMs go for Sunder or Steal shenanigans.
Always use Shield extract and the base mutagen at the least. Considering the Fey mutagen line from Legacy of the Fey PC.


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Not interested in Starfinder and please keep your Starfinder out of my Pathfinder.
One of my sons was excited about Starfinder...until he saw how different it was from Pathfinder. He is no longer interested. Starfinder will not find it's way into my home. Pathfinder will never leave our hearts--mine or my 5 sons.


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No one has mentioned Janny Wurts Wars of Light & Shadow, so I have. Truly an Epic both in character depth and prose. It starts with Curse of the Mistwraith, with two Princes who are half-brothers and gifted with power over Light and Shadow who must save a world. In the effort, they are cursed with enmity for one another and so begins the Wars. Very good books.


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Janny Wurts is one of my favorite authors. Count me as one who is in awe of her writing style. One of the few authors I will willingly re-read what I just read simply because I enjoyed the way she wrote it!
Also, her Prince of Shadows is my all-time favorite character in literature. Arithon is amazing. The best bard in all fantasy literature, IMO.


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There is only so much 'realism' I need in a war movie. I find it easy to believe there is war. I don't need body parts strewn across the screen.

If the beef you have with 'historically correct' means the specific model of the planes involved, then that is nit-picking. I would rather have classic warplanes do the action than completely unrealistic CGI ("Redtails" was sooo bad about that! The original "Tuskegee Airmen" is much more authentic.).

It is a war movie that I thoroughly enjoyed but do not expect everyone to like. The various timelines are confusing, but I got it before too long (it's not like we didn't get clued in). Nolan's movies are just fine to me. I really appreciate that this one got made.


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So, the land of the midnight lord is coming out of the shadows? Finally.


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Marco Massoudi wrote:

Dunkirk was neither realistic (for example not a single drop of blood was seen in the first scenes), nor authentic (the planes used were not historically correct).

I really disliked the movie, because it was neither a "war movie", nor an emotional story of likeable people trying to survive.
After the mediocre "Interstellar" (which at least had emotional scenes), Nolan has made his least appealing film yet, at least to me.

So the Me 109 and Spitfire didn't exist in June 1940? Huh?!


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Dragon78 wrote:
I wonder if we will see any magical poisons that can effect undead?

There is already a discovery for that: Celestial Poisons from Champions of Purity--a VERY fine book that one!

It allows poisons produced by the Alchemist to get past undead and evil outsider immunity to poisons.


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What?! Only 6 CS/PC per year?!?! That absolutely sucks. I enjoy my monthly Pathfinder fix immensely.

Stupid Starfinder...didn't like it to begin with, even less now that it has gotten in the way of my Pathfinder.

Yes, I am aware that I am coming across as a petulant child. :)


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I think Flamedancer is much better than Flamesinger. Flamesinger does give the Fire Music feat for those who like it, but it takes away bardic knowledge and lore master. It also does away with Inspire Courage to give fire damage to the party's weapons... However, I think IC is perhaps the most important part of the Bard's features.


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I will 2nd the call for the Lamplighter Investigator--easily my fave archetype. Mine is 7th level and when I roll for Initiative, I don't just roll the d20. I get to add Inspiration to the roll without expending any (obtained at 3rd level). At 12th, I will add both my Dex modifier AND my Int modifier to Initiative rolls.


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Problem is, none of the paper back titles get errata.

Thundercaller is most definitely broken.
I still like Sound Striker--actually my favorite Bard archetype. No, not looking for maximum damage output. Just something cool to replace some class features I rarely use.


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Sir_Andrew wrote:
what does the firebranded gunslinger do and what does it replace?

In general terms, these are replaced: Deadeye deed, dead shot deed for emphasis and special talents with Dragon Fire rounds. Damage scales at the cost of 5 total bonus feats. Gets bombs as alchemist (-4 levels) instead of gun training.

I think it is interesting, though I have never been eager to play a Gunslinger.


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There is an alchemical equivalent to holy water for use against constructs (of metals, stone and earth) and creatures of the earth subtype...yes, it is very cool. "Deadground Dust" with a cost of 70gp, 1lb weight and Craft DC of 25 (alchemy).


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I really like the Salamander bloodline for Bloodragers, not so much the Sorcerer's. The 1st two powers for the Sorc are focused on Craft checks. It isn't until 9th & 15th level that it gets like the Bloodrager's Salamander bloodline (such as a serpentine tail while raging).


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Thank you!

Is it November yet?


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I have not seen any mention of a new juicy Bard feat called 'Wind Song'. It allows a Bard to center a performance up to 120' away! Talk about a ranged Bard! I thought it very cool, myself.


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Gross! Clean that up!

Very useful, thank you.


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The Fire Singer loses too much for my liking: Bardic Knowledge and Inspire Courage being the deal breakers for me.
Now the Storm Caller! Wow. I could see it easily working with the original Summoner as well. Very nice. Limited summons, but they include Lightning Elementals!


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Nope, no Starfinder for this household. Eagerly awaiting my PDF! Excited for the new Kineticist stuff and the Flame Singer in particular. I am certain there will be a lot of fun new additions to the game in this one.


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Elegant Egotist wrote:
serithal wrote:
i think a kineticist archetype that has you focus on two elements from level one would be cool but you only get two elements and can't composite blast till level 7
If you're not opposed to 3rd party, N. Jolly already did that in Kineticists of Porphyra 2, it's called the fusion kineticist.

Doesn't belong in this thread, thank you.

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