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For as long as I can remember, Citizen R. has wanted to see criminals die, or, at the very least, be severely punished.
Andrew R wrote: Should be a line drawn hard and clear none of this sometimes adult, sometimes not but ok to cross the line BS Agreed, Citoyen R. A line should be drawn hard and clear that laws against high school students boinking each other are stupid.
"Devil's Advocate" wrote: It's a strange issue, and it reminds me of a debate my class had back when I was taking criminal justice and politics about how back in the day, a middle eastern diplomat had come to the use for some sort of diplomatic council and brought his wife. Without realizing why, the US arrested him as he entered the country because his wife happened to be 13, (even though they hadn't had sex, and more importantly hadn't had sex in the US), sent her home (now without her guardian and legal protector and now with no where to go) while they tried to figure out what the heck to do with him. How strange. In New Hampshire, I believe, the law still says girls can get married at the age of 13 as long as they have their parents' permission.
He should have flown into MHT.
thejeff wrote: Is also seems that the younger girl's parents didn't forbid them to date or raise any strong objections until she turned 18 and could use the courts.
If true, that seems like a horrible way to handle it.
This Revolutionary Tribunal agrees, Citoyen Jeff.
"Devil's Advocate" wrote: I'm not sure this is a corner case at all, as much as just an uncommon one, with extra hot buttons. From the parent's perspective of the younger child, (removing the fact that both are female or that it is homosexual), it seems perfectly reasonable that they should have the full right to protect their daughter legally. Arguing that because it's a gay relationship goes a long way to show that the younger individual is regardless of her age, mature and competent enough to make a choice for herself, which then leads to well why would she then not be if the partner where a male? People might say that they don't think it would matter, but the past evidence of very similar cases (just switching up the genders) has shown pretty strongly that they (as a general community) simply do not. Agreed.
Quote: what would be the difference if the other partner was male? That's basically what it comes down to, how is this any different than if an older male had been having sexual relations with an underage/younger female, and in what way should the remove the parents (of the younger girl's) rights to legally defend their child, (whom they are legally accountable for)? The law either applies equally, regardless of gender, nationality, race, or sexual orientation, etc. . ., or it doesn't. It's not about getting all the perks but none of the responsibility, which is exactly what arguing that "because they where gay it's ok" is doing. Agreed.
It is the opinion of this Revolutionary Tribunal that sodomy is an imaginary crime, and that laws against high schoolers boinking each other, whether they be straight or gay, is the acme of stupidity. We find the defendant NOT GUILTY!
Quote: I think a lot of people are also jumping on the assumption that the parent's primary (or only) motivation is because they have an issue with their daughter being homosexual and are using this as an excuse to break that up. But the truth is that parent's of children are at least equally if not more concerned with their daughters having heterosexual relationships than they are with homosexual one, its very common that they disallow (or attempt to) their daughters from dating until they are _____ years old, period. From what little I have read, the parents of the younger girl never complained while 17-year-old Kate was boinking their daughter and went and filed charges when she turned 18. These are unconfirmed accusations, as far as this Revolutionary Tribunal is concerned, but, if true, the offending parents shall be sentenced to a Fun-Timey Reeducation Through Labor Supercenter to produce vibrators and Massengill for the lesbian masses until they admit they harbor counterrevolutionary attitudes.
Quote: My understanding is that it was primarily oral relations, which again means
Ahem.
474. You have all been sentenced to the same Galtan concentration camp.
Yes, those were good times...
Nicely worded, citoyen. Even I can agree with that.
BigNorseWolf wrote: LazarX wrote:
And while Vatican City isn't a major temporal power.
Thank you very much short french conqueror dude! On behalf of the French Revolution, je vous en prie.
Robert Hawkshaw wrote: Unskilled Troll is Unskilled wrote: Well, you sure came to the right place for an intelligent, well-informed answer to the question.
Oh wait...no you didn't. You came to a website about gaming to ask an extremely data-dependent question, which is well outside the expertise of anyone here. Here, let me provide you with a link to the sum total of the knowledge of the community residents on the topic:
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If you need further information, I recommend checking this website:
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I'm actually finishing up an LL.M. with a focus on international tax law and tax havens specifically so.... :) I, too, am a lawyer with a vast experience in expatriating rich people...
Vive le Galt!
Kill! Kill! Kill!
This one is a bit more highbrow, and probably runs more to Lord Dice's tastes, but there might be some lazzaroni in it, I'm not sure.
My Italian geography isn't so hot.
If I ever catch that elusive Pimpernel...
Srly, though, politics aside, that book is wicked fun. I think there's a series, kind of like the John Carter books. Except with guillotines.
Don't look at me.
I hope you don't mean Ms. Corday. Although, she did have quite a charming head...
Srly, though, yay!! When you get a chance we demand baby pix!!
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thejeff wrote: Derailing history would be part of it. I'm not sure how any heroic PCs could get more than a casual look at tsarist Russia and not decide to overthrow him, which as 13-14th level characters in the real world, they could with ease. Along with dealing with the meta of players knowing the history.
If it's just a drop into Rasputin's house, fight your way through some guards, kill him and go, then no big deal, but also why bother having it on earth.
All I know is that Grigori Yefimovich better stay the f##$ out of Galt.
Doubleplusungood! Down the memory hole with you, Citizen Meatrace!
TheWhiteknife wrote: If someone really wants "one nation, one law" then I would imagine that they cant wait to see President Obama stand trial for violating the War Powers Act. I'd rather he be placed before a Revolutionary Tribunal of His Victims.
Up against the wall, m~*&~+~~&$~*!
Vive le Galt!
If education and shaming don't work, there's always Jenni.
Citizen Meatrace, on the other hand...
But I would.
Vive le Galt!
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I told you I was watching, Citizen Sissyl.
Sissyl wrote: We really need a Galt AP, where the Good, Brave people of Andoran put a stop to the Wicked, Murderous and Smelly revolution in Galt. ;) I'm watching you, Citizen Sissyl.
What?!? You underestimate me, Citizen Games!
Kajehase wrote: The first performance of Mozart's The Magic Flute took place on September 30 1791 in Vienna. Meanwhile, in Paris, the National Constituent Assembly was dissolved and replaced by the Jacobin-dominated Legislative Assembly. One of the things that makes the French Revolution so much harder to read about than the American Revolution is that the cast of characters changes so drastically from year to year. Now, part of that, of course, is because of the Final Blades (Vive le Galt!), but, also, there's this:
So, the Estates-General had morphed itself into the Constituent Assembly, and then Louis XVI tries to do a runner, and they vote to dissolve the monarchy and proclaim a republic. They set up elections for a new Legislative Assembly and then, on, like, the last day, Robespierre gets up and proposes a strict term-limit bill barring anyone who sat in the CA (including himself) from sitting in the LA!
So, you're reading along in the book and, all of a sudden, you have to be introduced to a whole new set of characters, and their backstories, and plotlines, etc., etc.!
It's very confusing.
Kajehase wrote: The first performance of Mozart's The Magic Flute took place on September 30 1791 in Vienna. Meanwhile, in Paris, the National Constituent Assembly was dissolved and replaced by the Jacobin-dominated Legislative Assembly. Although the majority of those Jacobins split with the society and went on to be known to history as the Brissotins or the Girondists who were later overthrown by the remaining Jacobins on the road to the Republic of Virtue.
Vive le Galt!
Proclaim a Republic of Virtue.
Alright, I know, I know, I'm partly guilty here, but maybe we should take it to another politroll thread.
I didn't come up with this awesome thread title just to get it locked again. Hmm, let's see, why don't we take it to one of Grand Magus's threads and get that locked instead?
By the way, Citizens Gersen and R., have you provided music links yet?
[Sharpens final blade]
By the way, I dig your new avatar, aristo-scum.
To the lampposts with you, Comte de Dice!
Or better yet, drop it.
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Ooh, you've beat me at my own game. Again!!!
I'll get you yet, you grain-hoarding, goblin-kennel-keeping aristo!
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In my day, interminably bizitching about your missing shower curtain ad nauseam usually led to a date with Razor Jenny.
Ooh! You defiant little....
[ahem]
Ex-comrade Inaros, in the name of the Executive Council of the Presidium of the Revolutionary Tribunal and with the power accorded to me by the Galtic Committee of Public Safety, for the counterrevolutionary crime of not providing even one measly music link, you are hereby sentenced to be taken out behind Razor Jenny and spanked until you see the error of your ways.
Vive le Galt!
Have you posted a music link yet, Comrade Inaros? [Sharpens final blade]
ATTENTION, POLITROLLS!!!!
If you would like to avoid a meeting with Razor Jenny, post a musical link--it doesn't have to be metal--before posting yet another political argument.
Failure to accede to this instruction will result in you standing roughly a foot shorter than you did before.
Vive le Galt!
I notice that Citizen Aretas has already posted a Megadeth link, so the ball is in your court, Comrade Jeff.
We knew how to handle emigres back in 1793, I tell you.
me.
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You need me to take anyone out to Razor Jenny yet, Comrade Thorn?
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