I'm actually of the opposite opinion to the prevailing one. Pulling him aside is required at this point. "Hey, cut it out," may get the behaviour to stop (either for the time being, or completely) but it trivializes the behaviour. If sexism and racism could be addressed by bystanders just saying, "Hey, stop that," we'd have a much more egalitarian society.
Public shaming doesn't work, so don't make a big deal of it at the table. But at the end of the night, pull him aside and say, clearly but firmly, "You were making comments here that are sexist and hurtful. I did not want to interrupt the flow of the game or embarrass you publicly tonight, but next time I hear you speaking that garbage at my table, I will tell you to leave. There is no place for those kinds of words or sentiments in PFS. I will be speaking with the coordinator so that they know my concerns as well."
Brook no discussion or argument. "But it was in-character! But it was a joke!" - Doesn't matter. Response: "I have explained my feelings to you, and why your words were inappropriate. There is no justification that is enough to balance or excuse the things you were saying. If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you find somewhere else to play."
Why make it easier to get the things we want. Back when I first began playing D&D, I loved trying to figure out how to multi-class to get just what my character needs, but Paizo keeps putting out all these "combo classes" and takes away from the adventure.
Why not? If you don't like them, don't use them.
If it can be done, I'd love to see Iobaria or other parts of Casmaron explored in fiction, but that steps away from established canon to give authors a pretty blank slate to work with and may be difficult.
Ideally, I'd like Tim Pratt to write it. :)
Other authors I think you should investigate/approach if you have time, and if you think they might fit. I've read Sword & Sorcery from some of them before, and others I would love to hear their take on it. In no particular order:
Ahem. Sorry about that. I appear to feel strongly about Garth Nix.
The Fox wrote:
Again, I say this:
You can say "My character would prioritize all these other things before the Pathfinders," but if/when you do, don't be surprised if you cost yourself some prestige.
A little late on the reposting here this week, but this past Monday our latest column was an Asmodean Advice about effective choices in Summon Monster IV through VI.
Listen, just because he's the patron God of Cheliax doesn't mean he gives bad advice. I'm just sayin'.
Chris Lambertz wrote:
Huzzah! Three cheers for Chris and her quick solutions!
If players are spending half a session time stumbling around doing everything possible that might possibly award them the second prestige point, then they're doing it wrong. Generally speaking, clues to the optional objective are in the VC briefing, and if they're thinking about the justification for that briefing and not just creating a mental tickbox of what needs to be done for the first PP, the second will get done along the way.
I know people are going to get frustrated by this. John and the Campaign Management are trying to stimulate a cultural shift here, and not subtly - this is a major change to the way PP work, and will therefore rustle some feathers. However, once again, we're seeing a few vocal posters complaining within six weeks of the change. Give it a chance, see how it works, and then if you still don't like it after it's been in place for a while, offer suggestions. But at least give players a few months to figure out which way is up before kneejerk posting.
Could we get all the pregens in a single file, rather than one per class (or in addition to?) Ideally, a file that's all the level 1s, and a seperate one for level 4 and level 7, but even all 39 pages in one file would be great.
I'm trying to print off just a set of level 1s for an upcoming convention, and it's a huge pain in the butt to send 13 print jobs when I could make due with selecting pages in Preview or Reader and sending a single job.
Earlier this summer, the Ontario Pathfinder Society website relaunched with a slick new design and a better interface, thanks to the hardworking efforts of Toronto Venture-Lieutenant Michael Iantorno, whose degree in Fine Arts means that he knows a whole lot more about design aesthetics than I do.
In addition, we took the opportunity to launch a series of community-focused columns, written by members of our community with experience and/or passion for writing. Our goal is to publish a column every Monday, rotating through the different columns so as not to overwhelm a particular author.
The columns are:
5-foot Theatre: A column focused on useful tips for GMing in general, but with a particular focus on the challenges for GMs.
If you're interested, this link will take you to an index page for all the columns.
Cold Napalm wrote:
The good news is we all survived and succeeded in the adventure. But we were sweating it for a bit.
Glen Shackleton wrote:
Another option (the route I took) is to attach yourself to the nearest Venture Captain as a VL. That way you have a good resource for advising you in getting things rolling and, once things start to grow you can always apply to be a VC.
And if you do it the way Glen did, you swear up and down to the VL that recruits you that you have no interest in being a VC, but that you're happy to build the community until such a person emerges.
Then, six months later, you take the plunge anyway. :)
I'll also just point out that one may be doing their players a disservice by not at least telling them they should have the books. A lot of the emotion that's coming out of some of the recent threads is based on situations like, "I've been playing for three years, and when I went to a con the GM told me I couldn't play my favourite character because I didn't have the APG. What's that about?!"
If you're just joining this conversation, here's a quick summary of the last 100 posts or so.
A: But the GMs have to have all the books, right? So I shouldn't need to?
B: No, the rules say you have to have them and bring them to the table.
A: But that's a lot of books, and they're heavy.
B: It's not fair to make the GMs carry them FOR you. And it's the rule, so it doesn't matter anyway.
A: But why can't I just print out a copy of the relevant abilities from Herolab and just bring that? Herolab is better anyway, because it does all the calculations for you and there's no danger of calculation errors.
B: Yes, but it's the rule, and you have to have the book.
A: Okay, but the PRD has a lot of the rules. I could just bring a printout of that.
B: No, because the rule, you see..
A: Yeah, but what about d20pfsrd? I could print out that reference, and...
B: No - the rules say -
A: But I don't LIKE that!
Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop presenting alternative strategies for players that are not within the rules as laid out in the Guide to Organized Play. As I posted earlier, you have four options:
If you want to argue to change the rules, then start arguing to change the rules. However, it's worth pointing out that that argument has been going on in this other thread for some time, and it seems unlikely to bear fruit.
Why is this conversation still happening?
1) If you GM, you can use the PRD to help you in preparing, in case the scenarios reference things that you don't have access to. You are not responsible for knowing or being able to look up on-the-fly anything that is not in the Core Rulebook.
2) If you play, the onus is on you to provide access to non-Core material that your character uses, in case the GM doesn't have it and doesn't have access to the 'net from the game space. You can do that by bringing the book, bringing a legal copy of the PDF on a device of your choice, or by printing out a page from a PDF that you own and that shows your email in the watermark. If you don't want to have to bring a book, then don't use stuff from that book.
As an aside, neferphras, I challenge you to refrain from playing in favour of GMing for your local community or home group over the next few weeks, and then revisit this thread and re-read what you're asking GMs to be responsible for. I expect that your attitude will change significantly, and you might understand why a lot of people in this thread are seeing your request as unreasonable.
The Tango is totally a lawful evil dance.
I see your point, MoR, but let me extend my argument slightly to make a connection that may (or may not) be relevant.
There were two points I was trying to make (and re-reading, I'll admit that it wasn't even close), and here they are laid out more explicitly
1) I'm concerned about the willingness of my GMs to stick around - regardless of the "rank" of the GM - which is dependent on their ability to have fun. Some GMs don't find it fun to watch a single player dominate the scenario, and the reasons for that are irrelevant. They're either frustrated by the ease of play, or invested in their NPCs, or whatever. If a GM isn't having fun, then there's only so many times they'll come back, and I can't afford to lose GMs. Regardless, as Andrew Christian said in the other thread, if a player shows up with an option that a GM doesn't want to have to deal with (for whatever reason), then the shortest possible, and very antagonistic conversation, looks like this:
GM: Hey, I don't want that option at my table. Either don't use it, or bring a different character.
In short, it is an impractical argument to say "you can't ban options that you don't want to deal with." It's a great ideal, but you can't stop it from happening, because you can never force someone to be a GM.
2) I'm concerned about the fun of the other players at the table. It is often the case that if one person is dominating the game - or even dominating a specific aspect of the game like combat - means you've killed the fun of others at the table. This doesn't represent the best of Pathfinder Society, and I think it's the GM's responsibility to keep that from happening.
I've been biting my time since this conversation started in the other thread, but I've got some thoughts I'd like to share.
First, I see Andrei's point. It hasn't come up for me as a GM, but as a player, if there's a 7th person seated at the table I'm sitting at, I'll get up and leave. Past experience indicates that for me, at least, 7-person tables aren't fun. They're legal, but I don't like them. Don't tell me that just because I'm a Venture-Lieutenant I'm setting a bad example by choosing not to participate in a legal table.
I look at it from this lens: I'm responsible for making sure that PFS puts its best foot forward. If a new player shows up with a level 1 rogue, and proceeds to do nothing for an entire scenario because someone's got an Animal Companion that destroys the experience, they're not coming back. To be clear, I wouldn't blanket ban anything that's legal, but I'd take a close look at table composition and have a conversation with anyone who was going to abuse an overpowered option at a table, to the detriment of everyone else's playing experience.
Luckily, in Toronto, we don't seem to have a lot of players like that. I can't think of any that I've encountered at public PFS so far.
Oh, hell. The most important part of my post and I missed the negation in the sentence. That's extremely embarrassing. I've edited my original post above.
For the record, the sentence should read "First, and I cannot stress this enough, I believe strongly that any VC or VL would never take a legitimate concern like this and chalk it up to a second X chromosome."
It's been quite a while (nearly 2 years, if my search-fu hasn't failed me)since a Golarion Day post in the blog, and I've been itching to ask about it. Now that the Gen Con crunch is over, I thought it might be a nice time to bring it back up. I really loved the idea that once a week, there'd be a little post - a few hundred words - about a specific element of the Campaign Setting, and it's been sorely missed by more than just me. Is there any chance we might convince the staff to start that part of the blog up again?
It's possible that this thread belongs in Website Feedback. Mods, feel free to move it if that's a more appropriate place for it.
GMing this game two weeks ago was my 60th game, and therefore my 3rd star. To celebrate this, I built some 3D terrain. Normally, I'd put this link in the discussion, but there are mega-spoilers in the images, so I kept it here instead.
Matthew Morris wrote:
Wait, didn't General Sheridan defeat the Shadows and unite the galaxy before leading a fleet back to Earth and overthrowing a corrupt Earth President and his totalitarian regime?
Seth Gipson wrote:
Ours are nicer than theirs. If you don't like your VL shirt, you'd hate the VC one. ;)
Spoiler for Adam:
Jeffrey Fox wrote:
As I said, it's not hard, but time-consuming and more paperwork.I'm with PFCBG on this one.
I'm also not convinced it won't end up Cantina time. Consider down the road: Alice's Aasimar is three years old, Bob's Catfolk is two years old, Carla's Low Azlanti is a year old, and David has a brand-new Nagaji.
Finally, the GtOP is already 50 pages long. How much longer do you want it to be?
When my players are... I no longer feel bad for DMs who hate on whiny players, also i have results about the entire party of wizards thing
Also, knowing how your character works is not the same as mastering all the content in the CRB. It's reasonable to expect that a player who plays a human wizard has read:
* The HUMAN section of the Races chapter
The Ontario Pathfinder Society is pleased to announce that we'll be present and running games at Phantasm: Gamer's Equinox this year.
Because it's a new presence for us, and we're expecting mostly unexperienced PFS players, we're choosing to be very flexible about what offers. Rather than pre-registering for individual scenarios, we'll be mustering on-site based on player attendance, experience, and demand. GMs will be present with a number of scenarios available to play, and we'll do our best to accommodate everyone.
If you're a very experienced player who's planning on coming to the convention and want to make sure that you'll have a table you're eligible to play at for credit, please send me an email at email@example.com so I can make sure that we have a table ready for you.
Hope to see some of you there!