Male African American SWAT Close Quarters Weapon Specialist | " Diehard "
Nice though Righteous Fury works differently in this game.
Righteous Blurb:
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VIII: Combat
RIGHTEOUS FURY
When rolling Damage after a successful attack, if any die rolled
results in a natural 10 (rolling the 10 result on a 10 sided die),
a particularly bloody and spectacular hit may be inflicted (this
also includes a result of 10 when rolling 1d5 for Damage). After
resolving the effects of the hit, one of two things may happen.
If the attack dealt Damage after being reduced by Armour and
Toughness Bonus (see Step Five, below), then the shot becomes
more severe. The attacker then rolls 1d5 and consults the Critical
Hit Table appropriate to the Damage type and location of the
original attack. The target suffers all effects listed. However, the
target does not count as having suffered a Critical Hit. In other
words, if he takes Damage during later Turns it will affect his
Wounds, not directly stack onto worsening critical effects. Talents
that modify Critical Damage (such as Crack Shot and True Grit)
do not modify the critical effects generated by Righteous Fury, and
these critical effects do not stack if a target suffers Righteous Fury
multiple times. Each roll is applied as a separate effect.
Alternatively, if the attack does not do any Damage once
reduced by Armour and Toughness Bonus, then the attack Deals
1 point of Damage, not reduced by Armour or Toughness. This is
the extent of the Righteous Fury effect for this attack; the victim
does not suffer a roll on a Critical Hit Table. This represents some
weapons simply not being potent enough to deal major Damage,
but still able to do harm through a “lucky hit.
Good news both of the effects crit, bad news is they don't TECHNICALLY do more damage just could make them for example drop their weapon ( Which is good).
As for Pete how far is the fight between Jack and the Brute from Pete? I'm considering whether I want him to Charge, double move or shoot from where he stands. I need to known the meters to decide on which.
Thank you I appreciate it, I settled on Hajar nar Jundi; Chosen of Osiris. Now it is time to work the mechanics to the ideal I expect him to somewhat be.
Checking in, Redelia wished to express you all needing a Rogue-like or Ranged Martial. I have the determination to take either role though Im not fully sure about what is available as far as Dreamscarred Press is concerned.
I have a plethora of ideas but I want to know my limitations as you will. I'm currently reading through the gameplay and Discussion Threads as we speak to better know the party.
So far Im thinking some variation of Sand Kineticist Chosen of an Old God.
Yeah it is unfortunately an issue of bad editing. It seems to flow into the ability text and thus get missed by almost all of the sites and guides that read over the abilities. So as MUCH as an Empiricist Investigator with Sleuth MAKES SENSE. It by the rules cannot be done. Though the trade is completely unbalanced.
With that mindset (Jingasa = Fate's Favored + jingasa) it would be like Paizo nerfing lay on hands, Channel or spells because Fey Foundling made dice healing 'too good'
It basically makes no sense as that is not a product of the healing but of the feat, which is only effective if diced healing is applied to you.. which only helps early-game and for Paladins ( And Paladin-like offshoots... like Warpriests) keep their ability to heal worth it late-game.
One simple piece of advice is to take down the key stats of each player when they level up and make it clear no character can have 5 higher in AC, to hit, max save, Spell DC etc than the next best player. That prevents combats that unfairly challenge everyone else but one character is able to cakewalk.
Set this expectation out right from the start, so that he can focus on optimising choices rather than sheer power. You may need to tinker with this if he is playing a fighter in a party of sorcerers or if he has several abilities that allow him to boost these core stats (arcane accuracy for instance).
It's a simple solution that doesn't penalise him retrospectively.
I have to point this out. If you take any advice DO NOT take this one. It is one of the worse things you can do as it basically sets the limit at the worse possible player and makes them have control over others while penalizing anyone who uses a modicrum of intelligence differently. A Fighter should not be within bounds of a Magus nor should a Monk to say a Evocation focused wizard.
A Paladin Will have outstandingly better saves than a Rogue, the examples go on. DONT DO THIS.
There is no such thing as flavor over power. Some of the most 'flavorful' choices are also powerful as all get out. [Insert Video of Angel Summoner and BMX Bandit]
Don't be a dick should be always prescribed but suddenly placing focus on one player is quite noticeable and may not make the best response. Whatever rules that are made should be universal, if people dont want to amp up for combat, then they will look inferior and accept that, if he doesnt want to do the same in RP situations the same will be true.
Its not even hard to be powerful in comparison to someone else and if you go the banning route it will end up something along the lines of " Alright you can play Base Fighter, Rogue and Monk " because anything else would cause a rift due to capabilities.
As far as advice, make sure you are well versed in the rules so that issues can be solved quicker, have any house rules established beforehand, do NOT adjust damage as it is very easy to figure out. Get on him about loopholes and 'abuse' . Simply ask what books a feat, spell or ability comes out of so you are aware anytime anyone wants something.
Male African American SWAT Close Quarters Weapon Specialist | " Diehard "
Certain ammo and items are still an issue because of rarity limits, do not forget that. So far they havent had armor so it hasnt been a problem. For Pete he has a sword and a shotgun which usually will hit multiple times in the body. Avg of 6 successes.
Male African American SWAT Close Quarters Weapon Specialist | " Diehard "
Its a good tactic but requires kinda what I'm doing now, one suppresses and sees if it works then people regroup move up. Another does similar so the first can move up. Get better angles and stuff like that. man... My luck is going to roll bad eventually.
Go on and get a little closer I got you though Im rushing next round.
You seem to forget Imbicatus, a simple Demon (which those who pointed out this issue in that playtest) Will neuter any Warlock ever. Not to mention Deliquescent gloves wont work because that is a separate and additional energy, which is applied to resistance just the same.
Male African American SWAT Close Quarters Weapon Specialist | " Diehard "
If anyone would like a More in depth explanation.
Pete's plan basically works out like this. We know the target is 100m from here.
Pete is also very aware it may be a trap, and is relying on that fact. Any place but the path will create an unneeded amount of noise and thus alert them. However, likely what they did not plan for was someone like Mark to be able to sneak through the brush without alerting them. The path will obviously be watched.
We will activate the trap on our terms, Jack and Bob are hearty and can take a hit much like Pete. Doing so will alert us to their presences assuming we do not find them first. Worse happens, Anna is there to bring up the rear and do on site medical aid. Pete is also there to create covering fire/finish the job otherwise. While that happens Mark can gather intel/sneak up close to point out the rest of the enemies possible positions. Shoot from the brush/trees flanking them from another position with Pete and Jack. Roger covers the back line, having a shorter range but preventing our group being snuck up on and proper coverage.
Distance wise I see it like this. Jack up front near the clearing, Pete 5m behind him, Mark off to the right in the brush 10m from Pete advancing, Anna and Roger 10m behind Pete. Anna and Roger 6 m from each other on opposite sides of the path.
Name: Jessica Ramirez
Nationality: United States
Role: Medical Assistant (I'll have to buy the comrade skill at a later date >_>)
Demeanor: 1d100 Slow
Size: 5'3" Black Hair, Brown Eyes, Olive Skin
Huh. So my duo is Quiet (me) and Slow (her). In this case though, slow is described as:
This character is does not jump to decisions quickly, and often spends a long time processing problems or
challenges before taking any action. In the end, his decisions may be wise or they may be foolish, but his
plodding pace might make his squad-mates wish he would simply make his choices faster.
So....thats going to be interesting.
** spoiler omitted **
Backstory will have to wait a bit more as I'm still deciding where to go with it haha ^_^
Pleasure doin' business with ya Ms. Campbell.
No seriously good application. As far as backstory, don't stress it too much, just something that makes sense. Heck my own backstory is a monstrosity of my own.
Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23
Water is the bane of... most things actually. And Illusions only work as well as the area they are in. Much like how Invisibility wont work underwater or if there is a door or sand etc.
Yes, it literally is required to be any type of good with a Kineticist and is built into the class as such. This is why we complained about an Expert with Bow > Kineticist and why Overwhelming Soul was basically trash. It is expected. This is how they 'balanced' having Con as a stat to 'cast'
I agree, this is a talking situation. Now while I normally would say Evil doesnt necessarily mean disruptive, this particular character seems to be doing so solely for that reason.
Im not so sure on pulling it off. Suddenly NOT using Enlarge Person when it gives you reach, Str bonuses and a Bigger axe, when that was your go to is very VERY noticeable. The same can be said of dropping armor but not casting shield. As I said these are noticeable and do not assume the players are not adults. We as humans make note of extreme changes. It would be the same if the Wizard known to Fireball things.. suddenly cast Burning hands... because.
I'll give you the full story in another post, i just wanted to get this idea out separately from that.
So are you saying the other pet classes, including the big poster child Druid, were fine in comparison?
If so that is being disingenuous. The reason being that comparatively it and the Summoner had real similar areas of expertise. However the Druid has Divine Spells and 9th level casting along with more spells.. and the Summoner had a better pet and some arcane spells ( Other spells they had to access with summons or Gate/Planar Binding )
If you say the Eidolon or Spell List was broken, the same could be said about the Druid and has been. The real reason was kneejerk reactions and legacy protection. People don't bat an eye at the Druid because its always been there, like the Wizard. However , every time something new comes in and does something similar or better in a specialized area, there is rave and rants.
Here's a fact Both Summoners and Druids have obvious selections that can wreck face with minimal effort and still do whatever they were on top of it. Druid tended towards Big Cat, Dinosaurs, Flying pet.. Summoner was Pounce Beast, Big hit Guy or Shiva-expy. This wasnt new, Druid was doing it before a long time ago. Druid had Spells like Strong Jaw and Animal Growth.. Summoner gets Haste and the Evo Surge line of spells.
The issue now is.. you can still very much do that now its just restricted behind flavor for no reason and forces things you might not care for. Druid still gets to do what it was doing. Instead the UnSummoner could have been an expansion on options and cool things you could have done with your Summoner instead of this travesty they have currently.
Well thats an easy answer.... its because this is a feat.. and therefore a possible martial option and therefore must not be allowed. Clearly. Sorcs are MAGIC and therefore get a pass.
I get the narrative but those abilities can be taken with the Eldritch Herigate feat line too
But see thats a feat based on a CASTER.,. so its fine.
Well thats an easy answer.... its because this is a feat.. and therefore a possible martial option and therefore must not be allowed. Clearly. Sorcs are MAGIC and therefore get a pass.
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Kudaku wrote:
Endoralis wrote:
Note there is a HUGE problem in the feat... One handed weapons dont use Dex to hit. And that it exists in its current form.
True, but swashbucklers can get dex to hit with one-handed piercing weapons. Since Slashing Grace lets you treat a longsword as a one-handed piercing weapon, you'd get dex to hit and damage when wielding a longsword.
So what I'm hearing is this is piazo's way of increasing pro-multiclassing views, they force you to have to take a level of Swashbuckler.. to do anything.
And even then you cant do it with more than one hand... And lord help you if you use your other hand to buckleswashes or.. pull out a potion.
I imagine the time it took to release this errata was utilized as an informal second playtest of the material from the ACG.
I know in my local PFS scene many, many characters were created with a one level Swashbuckler dip, and the amount of Dex-to-damage builds increased practically exponentially.
Those builds, comments, and questions made their way here to the forums where the Design Team was able to see the impact of what they had wrought.
Just like the original Warpriest playtest goes to show, when the majority of players quickly choose one option over others, it's a pretty good sign that option is out of balance with the rest.
Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23
Darius smirks, " I dunno Zin' he might need immediate medical attention.. Why dont you get closer and on that... Oh wait scratch that, Otherwise you might get a few more pricks than your aiming for in holes you never thought existed. "
He looks at the body closer, and the trap to see if the tiips of the crowsbows are poisoned are ladden with something.
You can take your hand of the weapon as a free action anytime you need to cast. The only thing you will be losing as a Magus is use of Spell combat but otherwise you'll e fine, Two handed Scythe to the face for maximum damage.
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
Nacht's insectile legs buckle down and shoot him off in a burst of speed landing right next to the middle cultist and slicing at his head. He had little care for the child but he was sure one of them knew something. So only one needed to be alive.
Male Half Elf Paladin (Holy Tactician) 3/Skald 5 (Level 8)| HP 74(82)[98]/74(82)[98] | AC 21(20) T 11(10) FF 21(20) | Fort +15(+16) Ref +8 Will +13(+15)| CMD 19 | Init +0 | Perception +13
Oh Im not discounting any of the others, Derlin was quite good as well, Bran played his character appropriately.. and we already know about You Ibuki. Valtyra is a wonderful character she has secrets more than the rest even against Yvell.. the poor girl. Next level his realization might blow his mind.. when he suddenly gains Sense Motive.
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
After dispatching two of the creatures, one with a double slice that rends its head off, one of Nacht's arms are caught by a slobbering mouth.
Fort Save Disease:1d20 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10
He feels something course through him but it does nothing but stir his fury. Looking upon the beast Nacht seeks to paint the walls with it's bodyparts.
Male Orc (Half Elf) Inquistor 8/ Alchemist (Grenadier) 2/ Warder 1 (lvl 11) | HP 102/102| AC 26 T 13 FF 24| Fort +18 Ref +11 Will +17 | CMD 27 | Init +9 | Perception +23
Darius look as it seems one of.. normal proportions seemed to be there as well.. one like him though clearly not of the same bloodline. " Here we have one of my kind.. quite good. Are you with this Bulldozer and Unnamed Oni-kin? You seem to be interested in the 'Beast' as well? " Darius' razor wit came once more, he was no enemy but no friend to those he just met.
" This should be an interesting trial to say the least.. "
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
Nacht had completely remembered how the language of that other being , the excited one was and spoke, this time.. much less broken.
A cacophony of fast paced clicks comes from Nacht.
" Soshite, anata no gengo ga watashi no kuchi no naka de haruka ni yoi nagaremasu. Watashi wa, sore ga iwa rete iru ka o oboete iru to omou. Watashi wa hoka no ningen no supīchi ni kore o konomu. "
Nacht simply nods to this being and to the other being, the oe who spoke German.
Those who speak Japanese:
" And your language flows much better in my mouth. I think I remember how it is said. I prefer this to the other being's speech. "
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
Nacht's eyes narrow as they follow the pathing of Jean's hand before a chitinous one met his grip and squeezes hard.. He doesnt stop until Jean looks like he is going to tell him to stop. As if he is not aware of human strength thresholds.
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
Nacht's gaze shifted back down to this one who called himself Jean or "John". How long had it been since he had seen such a thing. As a matter of fact this seemed, familiar somehow. The words and the situation rung a bell to his core but he could not recall a thing. It felt.. comfortable. One of the arms seems to lose its hardened feature but instead bulk up and grab Jean by the collar to lift him up uncomfortably close to the face, he points to the rest of the group speaking to Jean.
" Dis-moi qui le reste d'entre eux sont et pourquoi vous venez tous ici . Si je suis pour vous aider , je ai besoin de savoir pourquoi je devrais et avec qui . Je tiens à tuer le Nécromancien mais ce est une question tout à fait différente . "
He seems to find the French language slightly uncomfortable to speak, not due to lack of fluency however.
Those who speak French:
" Tell me who the rest of them are and why you all come here. If I am to help you, I need to know why I should and who with. I wish to kill the Necromancer but that is a different matter altogether. "
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
If the creature could tear up it would have. It nestled its own head in two hands the others come out as if praising the dark ceiling. He raised his head soon after and looked to the German being.
It picked up and shoved the longspear back into the loud being's other hand and nodded to the German being.
" Hilfe , ich helfen kann. Ich will gehen . Ich habe hier unten , so lange . Menschen sind die Menschen nett. Meine Erinnerungen sind schlecht. Ich , ich kann immer noch töten recht gut. Wird Nekromanten zu töten, ist er verantwortlich ... Ich denke . "
Reaching in it folds in a flash it draws out hidden weapons, A longsword, a wicked pick, a Hammer, a Gladius. It nods once more to the German being as a sign of recognition. The holds the weapons at ease.
" Ich bin Nacht "
Those who can speak German:
" Help, I can help. I want to leave. I have been down here for, so long. People, people are nice. My memories, are bad. I, I can still kill quite good. Will kill Necromancer, He is responsible... I think. "
Male Fleshwarped Half Elf Verminous Hunter 4/Medium 4 (Level 8)| HP 59/59| AC 31 T 22 FF 24 | Fort +9 Ref +14 Will +8| CMD 30 | Init +9 | Perception +12 (+18 Wasp Focus)
The creature looks at the invading group and was curious yet confused sensation and slight panic. Were they hallucinations like before? Cruel games played on his mind by foul memories of torture and pain. Two of its arms seem to flick away at them like a fly as if they were not there. The voice was deep and harsh with a hint of clicks and snaps much like a beetle or ant.
" Es scheint, dass Beute wurde in die Magier ging Den? Geh weg Schattierungen , ich möchte nicht noch einmal belästigt werden. "
Those who speak German:
" It seems that prey has walked into the mages den? Go away shades, I wish not to be bothered once more. "
The creature is posed but mutters once more in some.. variation of clicks, snaps and whirs. Clearly insectoid in nature, it shakes its head violently.
Male Half Elf Paladin (Holy Tactician) 3/Skald 5 (Level 8)| HP 74(82)[98]/74(82)[98] | AC 21(20) T 11(10) FF 21(20) | Fort +15(+16) Ref +8 Will +13(+15)| CMD 19 | Init +0 | Perception +13
" Having him bathed in purifying flames would be just but equally cruel. Dolga I must tell you before we leave, one thing. The flame and gold would not be what the Technic League would come to this town for, but what MADE the flame surely would.nLuckily you have strong-heated persons like Bran with you, and a such shall be safe, we will come to your aid if need arise. Until then, we have other tasks to complete. "
On the outside Yvell nods to Auehda in a agreeing fashion. " The wayward priestess is a key figure in this entire thing and now that she has failed in her mission would likely being going through morale break. We can take that opportunity to appeal to her much like her rat-follower. In which case understand what all is going on. I also need to take responsibility for the Jinkins from before, we shall wipe them out if need be. *Sigh* I never thought I would be saying such words with.. such a group, not that I am complaining. You all are much more... comfortable than a platoon of soldiers. " The half-elf seems to be musing upon something great in his mind.
The phase ends after some time and Yvell shakes his head with a smirk, " Unless someone has any other ideas, Let us not tarry. With no immediate threats we can learn of the artifacts below and sell what we can to our leisure. I'm sure your Father will be interested in the many stories we shall tell, correct Auehda? " Yvell gives a twinkle in his eye heading towards the junkyard, negotiations and education would be abundant.
