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Valegrim wrote:
Wow, you were up late last night (or very early this morning.) Smallville is one of those few shows I wish I had started watching when it came out. I missed everything so I fiqured.."oh well". I did get the Legion from i-tunes though so I can watch it again (also taped it in the vcr.) Powers in the game are coming along finally, took a week of vacation to work on the game, got my groove again I'd say. Very productive all in all. Starting to think about making the Cosmos Screen pretty soon. Don't have much to put on it yet though (as far as charts go). In my community, there is an after school activity for D&D at the Junior High and Senior High level. It brings some kids together to play but it isn't well organized. My daughter tried it out and here's what she got out of it... 1. The teacher held 2-3 meetings with everyone interested in order to lay down the basic rules, divide into groups and teach the basic mechanics of the game. 2. She was assigned the kids the teacher didn't want. She offered to DM because there were a lot of students interested in playing. She wasn't very experienced in Dming. 3. Once the group was on the way, the kids had the option of playing at the school when the teacher was playing his group or they could do it on another night at someone's home. 4. The teacher didn't get enough DM's for the amount of players which put considerable strain on my daughter. She elected to play here at home. 5. The kids formed their clicks within the group and shut out other players, trying to persuade the DM to dump the "unwanted" players. 6. Ton's of inner group fighting and backstabbing (mostly outside of the game). 7. After a while some of the other kids felt they would be better at DMing so they tried to break up the group (again the clicks mentioned above). 8. When they found out they didn't know the game as well as they thought they did they called the house asking my daughter (the DM they dumped) how to do this or how to handle that. 9. When the splinter groups fell apart, my daughter started getting calls from them wanting her to DM (since they were suddenly without one). This coming from the same kids that dumped her. 10. My observations are that most of the problems she encountered were age related for all involved, herself and the players. She hated the school thing so much that she did not return the following year. As for it being a good or bad idea in school, I'd say as an after school activity in which the instructer dedicates himself (herself) it's fine. In the classroom, I would say "NO". My daughter continued to DM for a few friends, but that didn't last because of schedules and her trying to mix different sets of friends. It also fell apart when she got a boyfriend (as he became much more important to her (depsite my preaching about how to treat others). Now she plays solo with him and they enjoy it a lot and play frequently. She has also developed the attitude that D&D is the ONLY worthwhile game as well (which I find rather disheartening, but that's mostly an age thing I'm sure.) On a side note my daughter's cousin (another girl) gave a speech on the game and borrowed some of my Greyhawk material as props. This game is really coming around now, I've used snippets of the book to spur on ideas and its working so well. Before I bought this book I had an idea of what I wanted to do, just didn't know how to do it. Now the Powers chapter is exceeding my expectations. The great thing is I get ideas rather than just implementing the material. An incredible boost to the Legion game. Thanks again and if anyone want to take a gander let me know. I don't watch Smallville (as I really don't watch tv at all), but I really enjoyed it. Definetly exceeded my expectations. Garth was pretty immature but that happens a lot with people of their age (rage of maturity levels). Rock was quite the thinker, leader, which I really liked as well, and I think Imra was best represented in appearance. I though Persuader would have a bigger role though. They made a reference to Brainaic 5, stated that there were other Legionnaires and invited Kal-El to visit someday. Loved the close-ups and emphasis on the Legion Flight Ring. I liked that they showed the Kal-El's influence over the Legion. Didn't care for the Legion willing to kill Chloe but they learned from Kal-El in the end that there is always another way to solve things; they made it their #1 rule (so good show of influence there). I really hope this episode flies, a spin off would really be the greatest thing. I'd give the episode an 7.5 out of 10. I don't watch Smallville (as I really don't watch tv at all), but I really enjoyed it. Definetly exceeded my expectations. Garth was pretty immature but that happens a lot with people of their age (rage of maturity levels). Rock was quite the thinker, leader, which I really liked as well, and I think Imra was best represented in appearance. I though Persuader would have a bigger role though. They made a reference to Brainaic 5, stated that there were other Legionnaires and invited Kal-El to visit someday. Loved the close-ups and emphasis on the Legion Flight Ring. I liked that they showed the Kal-El's influence over the Legion. Didn't care for the Legion willing to kill Chloe but they learned from Kal-El in the end that there is always another way to solve things; they made it their #1 rule (so good show of influence there). I really hope this episode flies, a spin off would really be the greatest thing. I'd give the episode an 7.5 out of 10. Valegrim wrote: haha; no worries prissy little snotling of a gal; somebody is gonna get thirsty and wish fer some drink or rub me bottle to dust it off; or whatnot; always happens; doesnt usually take to long; lots of leering little boyz out there wishing fer naughtly little things; this prison canna hurt the likes of me AHHAHAHAHAH. That reminds me of my 4th edition joke. Did you ever hear it? One of the participants (PC) is approached by a fair maiden and encouraged to win. Being the fetching lass she is, she shouldn't have any problem gaining his interest. Once he falls for the bait, the lady's real man-at-arms comes along and issues a challenge to the PC, after all who is he (the PC) to be courting his ladyship. Turns out she intentionally set the PC up in order to gain some attention from her man-at-arms whom had been not showing her the proper attention up until now. I'd make the guy a scoundral as well as a nobel of your choosing. Perhaps he cheats in some way when facing the PC at whatever challenge is presented. This allows opportunities for roleplaying as well as taking that roleplaying to the arena. Erik Mona wrote:
Yea, I figured you knew. Any respectful Minnesota Gamer would. Remember the soldier they had? Kinda stood out. Wow, that was a long time ago. I really liked that store as well. Kinda sad to see it go the direction it did. The owner always treated me well though. He had a good memory for recalling customers even when I had moved away from the Twin Cities and returned every 3-4 months he remembered me. There's a lot of Heathy and I talk but mixed in you'll find real Legion stuff. Just look for the posts by Set, Valegrim and DM Freehold or my longer posts. If your looking for ways to beat up on Mon'el look at Heathy's posts. Your really going to read the whole thread? Its coming up on 30 pages I think. drunken_nomad wrote:
Purchased it along with the others we have been discussing. After reviewing it a 2nd time I was 100% positive that its the real thing. I'm going to the bank tomorrow to put a large check in and start my savings account (finally). Paying for the comic did come out of that money, but I was starting out with $2,000 anyway, so I'm not that much worse off. I put the comic in a plastic sleeve with cardboard backing and taped the plastic together with the comic inside. It goes directly into the safetey deposit in the morning. As far as ebay, I'm going to wait awhile and see if any conventions come up in my area. I guess the CGC organization frequently appears there and I'd like to talk to them. If that doesn't work out I'll eventually send it to them for review. Hoping to sell it at a convention if I feel the offer is worthwhile. I'll be curious to see if either of the comic stores want it and what they would offer. I'll use ebay as a guide to what it is worth to some people. I'm sure once its graded I'll let you know what the CGC grade level is. Probably sit on things for awhile though. My daughter started playing 3.0 at about the age of 7 and then moved on to 3.5 when it came out. She easily understood the mechanics. Difficulties we encountered were... 1. Keeping careful track of XP 2. Not crying when something bad happened to her character. This lasted until about the age of 12 I'd say. As for play style, the only thing I changed at the ages of 10-12 were reducing the amount of adult conversation (adult oriented jokes). We always glossed over any kind of character intimatecy within the game and quite frankly, that hasn't come up for years anyway. Now my daughter is 16 and DMs for her friends. The only thing she does that I find annoying is she will only play modules and does virtually nothing with the characters in between. She doesn't seem to be able to DM without a module in her hand, but that's her call. Thanks for your help drunken_nomad. I plan on either going out today or tomorrow and looking at these issues one more time, then if everything checks out I'll buy it. Any recomendations of what to look for to be 100% certain that it IS INDEEED what I have been saying it is? This is what it should look like Yes? I'll double check the cover picture Double check the issue # Double check the contents of the story (origin of Spiderman right?) Make sure it says Marvel (LOL) Make sure it says 15 cents on the cover Date should be Aug 1962 Do comics say First Printing on them? I looked at a 1968 issue of Adventure comcis and that was not stated by the date in the credit area. Anything else I should look for to verify the authenticity? Valegrim wrote:
In my defense, I would just like to say that the idea of rolling a d20 and having a challenge score is only 1 small part of the system, the rest is mine...so...(insert rude noise) and be nice, I'm special. I've been poking around ebay and it seems that most do the CGC thing. I guess that means they get it appraised by this organization. The pictures they showed were all in the same type of clear hard plastic with the CGC label at the top as well as the numeric value they gave it (not dollar value but a type of score, such as 1.8, 2.5, 3, etc. I have the money to buy all of the comics we have been discussing without placing any kind of strain on things at home. I don't know anything about ebay and do not have an account with them as I have never purchased or sold anything over the internet before. The gaming store told me to have it sent into CGC for appraisel and to put insurance on it. At this point in time, this is my plan. I don't need the money that badly so I could easily buy it and sell it months or years from now. I'm not really a Spiderman fan so the comic wouldn't hold any type of value to me other than as a investment of some kind. I thought perhaps going to a comic convention after the CGC has looked at it would be a good idea. I'll be watching ebay quite a bit now so if I think that they make to low an offer at a convention I could also pass on it and save it for another convention, ebay, store, or private person. I expect stores won't pay you what its worth though. I have no need for store credit as I have already bought them out of their Legion comic supply anyway. I really appreciate the pointers and if you have more to offer let me know, I plan on buying Sunday or Monday and would love to hear if you have any more advice to offer. Ok, when I went to his house, I actually looked at the cover carefully as well as each page. I took notes and wrote down the damage I saw on each issue. drunken_nomad wrote:
Hi there, just got back from the guy who had comics for sale. After looking at what he had, here's what I found: I would say the the comics were in FINE to GOOD condition based off what I've seen for evaluating comics on the internet. I didn't buy anything because I decided to do some research first. The highlights he had were as follows: The Avengers #19, Aug. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Fantastic Four #42, Sept. 1965, He wants $5.00 for it. Giant Man and Incredible Hulk #69, July 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Giant Man and Incredible Hulk #66 Apr, 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Spiderman #23, Apr. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Spiderman #29 Oct. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Spiderman #30 Nov 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Amazing Fantasy #15, Aug 1962 (apparently the first appearance of Spiderman from what I understood). He wants $200 for it, I'd say condition is Good, the biggest flaws were a slightly rolled spine and somewhat loose cover but not to bad, the outer right edge was chewed (maybe 1/8 all the way down, otherwise in decent condition. This is the worst of the comics in regards to condition, all of the others on this list were better. Superman #155, Aug 1962, He wants $5.00 for it. Giant Superman Annual #5, Summer 1962. He wants $5.00 for it. Ironman and Captain America #59, Nov. 1964, He wants $20.00 for it. Ironman and Captain America #58, Oct. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. Hawkman $43, Sept. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. Daredevil #4, Oct. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. The Flash - Giant Issue #4, Oct. 1964, He wants $7.00 for it. Batman #149, Aug. 1962, He wants $5.00 for it. The Shadow #3, Nov. 1964, He wants $2.00 for it. Strange Tales: The Watcher, #134, Jul 1965, He wants $5.00 for it. I'll buy a price guide to help me figure out what these comics are worth if I were to turn around and sell them. Regarding the prices for the various conditions in a comic price guide; are these what I could sell them for or if I sold them to a comic store or should I expect a lot less? If so, where else should I go to sell them? Right now I'm looking for some advice to get me started on things. Does anyone know of any websites I can visit which will tell me what the value is of these comics based on the condition? He had some others for sale as well but their condition was worse POOR to FAIR, they were all other types of comics, such as Aquaman and Aqualad #32, Bugs Bunny 1959, Woody Woodpecker 1955, Mouse Musketeers 1957, Loony Tunes 1959, Herbie #5 1964 (not the car but some other sort of character I'd never seen before), Fightin Army #44 1961, Tarzan 1959-1960, Disney's Word of Adventure 1963, Bonanza 1962, Tonka #966 1968 (how can a comic be up to issue #966 in 1958, unless he meant issue #96?), 1962 MN Twins Yearbook. I didn't think any of these were worth anything though. They were all very cheap, most $1.00, a few at $5.00, and the Herbie at $7.00. Any input would be appreceiated. Thanks much! Hi there, I beleive I mentioned this on another thread but here goes. Recently I talked to a gentleman about buying some comics from him. Today I went to his house and looked at the comics themselves. Here's what I found... Now I only noticed one of these comics had Legion in it and even that was pretty minor. However I'm thinking there might be some value to some of the comics here and therefore would like to get some input from you folks. I would say the the comics were in FINE to GOOD condition based off what I've seen for evaluating comics on the internet. I didn't buy anything because I decided to do some research first. The highlights he had were as follows: The Avengers #19, Aug. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Fantastic Four #42, Sept. 1965, He wants $5.00 for it. Giant Man and Incredible Hulk #69, July 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Giant Man and Incredible Hulk #66 Apr, 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Spiderman #23, Apr. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Spiderman #29 Oct. 1965, He wants $20.00 for it. Spiderman #30 Nov 1965, He wants $10.00 for it. Amazing Fantasy #15, Aug 1962 (apparently the first appearance of Spiderman from what I understood). He wants $200 for it, I'd say condition is Good, the biggest flaws were a slightly rolled spine and somewhat loose cover but not to bad, the outer right edge was chewed (maybe 1/8 all the way down, otherwise in decent condition. This is the worst of the comics in regards to condition, all of the others on this list were better. Superman #155, Aug 1962, He wants $5.00 for it. Giant Superman Annual #5, Summer 1962. He wants $5.00 for it. Ironman and Captain America #59, Nov. 1964, He wants $20.00 for it. Ironman and Captain America #58, Oct. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. Hawkman $43, Sept. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. Daredevil #4, Oct. 1962, He wants $20.00 for it. The Flash - Giant Issue #4, Oct. 1964, He wants $7.00 for it. Batman #149, Aug. 1962, He wants $5.00 for it. The Shadow #3, Nov. 1964, He wants $2.00 for it. Strange Tales: The Watcher, #134, Jul 1965, He wants $5.00 for it. I'll buy a price guide to help me figure out what these comics are worth if I were to turn around and sell them. Regarding the prices for the various conditions in a comic price guide; are these what I could sell them for or if I sold them to a comic store or should I expect a lot less? If so, where else should I go to sell them? Right now I'm looking for some advice to get me started on things. Does anyone know of any websites I can visit which will tell me what the value is of these comics based on the condition? He had some others for sale as well but their condition was worse POOR to FAIR, they were all other types of comics, such as Aquaman and Aqualad #32, Bugs Bunny 1959, Woody Woodpecker 1955, Mouse Musketeers 1957, Loony Tunes 1959, Herbie #5 1964 (not the car but some other sort of character I'd never seen before), Fightin Army #44 1961, Tarzan 1959-1960, Disney's Word of Adventure 1963, Bonanza 1962, Tonka #966 1968 (how can a comic be up to issue #966 in 1958, unless he meant issue #96?), 1962 MN Twins Yearbook. I didn't think any of these were worth anything though. They were all very cheap, most $1.00, a few at $5.00, and the Herbie at $7.00. Any input would be appreceiated. Thanks much! Rathendar wrote:
I agree, I was thinking about doing that tomorrow. I can find a price guide in a neighboring town easy enough. I's just getting antsy because I'm hoping I'll find something nice. Saturday I'm suppose to meet this gentleman I spoke with over the phone. He has some Marvel and DC silver age comics for sale. He said his collection (30 comics total) included Spiderman, Hulk, Superman, along with some others. Now I'm fairly familiar with when DC comics started, but I'm less familiar with things like Thor, Hulk, and Spiderman. Did these comics start in the 1960's? All the comics he has for sale are from the 60's. I'm trying to get an idea how old they might be before I get there as well as value. He described them as "Not mint but not junk either" anyone have an idea what they think some of these issues would be worth at poor to fair condition? Rathendar wrote:
Okie Dokey, sounds good. It took me basically a year to settle on the basic game mechanics. I spent the greater portion of the year trying out different ideas, eventually found myself coming back full circle and utilizing some d20 ideas mixed with my own. The Champions/Heroes really spurs on the creative thought process which is exactly what I needed. Down the road I'll probably be looking to playtest it more extensively. If your a Legion fan and this intrests you get back to me on my Legion thread under Comics. Crimson Jester wrote:
Thanks much folks, I shall check it out. Is this book available at gaming stores or only online? Yes, happy new years Legionnaires. Here's hoping for another 50 years of Legion comics. Oh, and remember, we are starting the new year off right with Legion appearing on Smallville, January 15, Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad will be present. The one and only Persauder of the Fatal Five will be there to try and do something e's probably not suppose to be doing. Krome wrote:
Thanks, I thought people would look at me as if I was really strange (that is if they could see me, which they can't since its a computer screen they are looking at, unless of coarse you want to consider the avatar, then it's a representation, which could be considered the same as looking at me. I guess its a matter of perception.) One thing I forgot to mention is that we roll for music as well. For each game we have set soundtracks or other categories of listening music. The winner of the die roll gets to choose what they want for the night. If we play D&D, we roll d20, high person wins. If we play Top Secret/S.I. we roll d% and the person with the lowest roll wins (as that is how the game mechanics work). If you roll a Lucky Break of 01-04 you automatically get to play your theme song during game set up and if you roll a 00 (zero), you get to pick out music for two games in a row. If you roll a bad break (95-98 you can't roll for the next game and if you roll a 99 you can't roll for the next two games. Legion is based on d20, so I guess we will have to go with a high roll as well. Heathansson wrote:
No, it didn't have anything special about it, too bad, that would have been pretty neat. Bond tried to impersonate Scaramanga by having Q make one, he then atached it to his chest and met Scaramanga's contact, Mr Osato (I think was his name). They saw through the disguise if I recall correctly. Q was rather grossed out when Bond requested it. Oziap wrote:
So what exactly is pwning? "Get your free Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license right here on Paizo. We offer a 30 day free trial. If your not completely satisfied with your Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license we will send you your own stuffed Kobold Cleaver which you can proudly display in your living room as your own. If you order now, during this limited time offer, we will throw in this unique Kobold Cleaver snare for free. Lets go to the street and see what random strangers have to say about this wonderful product. Eileen: "Tell me sir, have you ever hunted a Kobold Cleaver with an Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license before?" Random Stranger: "Why as a matter of fact, yes I have, in fact I have one now." Eileen: "And tell me what was the result?" Random Stranger: "Well, uhhh....you know, tracked the critter down just from my back yard. Eileen: "Really from your backyard, tell me what did you use for bait?" Random Stranger: "Well the Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license does come with a Heathy sniff and bait special. Darn critter thought the Heathy statue was the real thing. Came up, sniffed it, tried to pee on it, when Wham! it fell right on top of him." Eileen: "Would you reccommend the Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license to your friends?" Random Stranger: "Absolutely, in fact I bought one for each member of the family. We hunt Kobold Cleavers together, fun for the whole family." Eileen: There you go folks, the words of a random stranger on just how good Eileen's Kobold Cleaver Hunting kit and license really works." Heathansson wrote:
Yes, he had 3 nipples. Wikipedia says:
Heathansson wrote:
Wasn't a very efficient weapon actually, only held one round. "Get your free Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license right here on Paizo. We offer a 30 day free trial. If your not completely satisfied with your Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license we will send you your own stuffed Kobold Cleaver which you can proudly display in your living room as your own. If you order now, during this limited time offer, we will throw in this unique Kobold Cleaver snare for free. Lets go to the street and see what random strangers have to say about this wonderful product. Eileen: "Tell me sir, have you ever hunted a Kobold Cleaver with an Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license before?" Random Stranger: "Why as a matter of fact, yes I have, in fact I have one now." Eileen: "And tell me what was the result?" Random Stranger: "Well, uhhh....you know, tracked the critter down just from my back yard. Eileen: "Really from your backyard, tell me what did you use for bait?" Random Stranger: "Well the Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license does come with a Heathy sniff and bait special. Darn critter thought the Heathy statue was the real thing. Came up, sniffed it, tried to pee on it, when Wham! it fell right on top of him." Eileen: "Would you reccommend the Eileen's Kobold Cleaver hunting kit and license to your friends?" Random Stranger: "Absolutely, in fact I bought one for each member of the family. We hunt Kobold Cleavers together, fun for the whole family." Eileen: There you go folks, the words of a random stranger on just how good Eileen's Kobold Cleaver Hunting kit and license really works." Heathansson wrote:
Me thinks you should practice your batting skills on KC! He being a naughty kobold again. Kobold Cleaver wrote: Oh crap. You do realize that this thread is practically inviting the psychotic cat haters from 'Frakkin Cats' thread to come here and rant? Which is why I put a disclaimer within my original post, to keep the riff raff out. "Other than getting rid of the cat or doing other harmful things to her, does anybody have any worthy suggestions on how to clean my house?" After all, I'm sure the Paizo bunch are nothing less than honorable posters who would NEVER take a thread beyond the original posters request of intent. You wouldn't do that would you kobold cleaver? Cuchulainn wrote:
I like the shirt, where did you find it? Actually, very awesome if you ask me. So if this were implimented, does this mean I would have to pay a onging fee (hourly, daily, monthly, whatever) to use my microsoft word program, play spider solitare or chess on my computer, make my own screensaver, type of gaming information, play my i-tunes etc.? It would no longer be a....you paid for the program now you can use it, instead I essentially rent the service for a few hours a day?
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