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Dragnmoon,

Separatist Archetype for cleric allows you to choose a domain/subdomain not normally available from your deity.

Actually it just says Domain, but something tell me I am getting late into this argument, so I won't get into any more.

I don't see a single thing more to the argument than that. It simply boils down to a GM not only deciding he doesn't 'like' the concept, that he'd prefer to arrogantly insist his understanding of pharasmin canon is superior to the player's. Furthermore that he'd prefer to ruin that player's game rather than make it fun for him.

What am I missing?

I could have missed something from this entire thread, but What is allowing a cleric of Pharasma to take the Undead Sub-Domain?

Undead Sub-Domain is not one of the Sub-Domains that a cleric of Pharasma is allowed?

So what did I miss?

Don't forget, you can add an armored kilt to that haramaki for +2 armor with 0% spell failure. Counts as medium, though.

Has the armored kilt been added in another book? The only version I know Of is not legal for PFS play.

I guess this is just destined to turn into a Pharasmin dogma debate thread.

How have I thrown Pharasmin canon under a bus? She grants the frikkin' death domain. Undead is a SUBdomain of a domain she grants. In Paizo's own canon. She virtually grants the undead domain even without using the archetype.

Where's this link that ties undead domain intrinsicly to the creation of undead? Why is it so impossible to study the nature of your foe so you understand them better, to be able to destroy them better?

Has this been brought up yet?

And it is PFS legal

But while I'm on the topic of domains and subdomains, there's something else I want to talk about—Pharasma. Turns out that nonevil goddesses of death sort of wreak havoc on the domain system—especially if they're as stringently anti-undead as Pharasma is. Because pro-undead spells always seem to sneak onto domain spell lists when you start talking about death and souls and stuff. It's easy enough to simply not prepare domain spells that create undead, but it still feels kind of disappointing to me that Pharasmins "miss out" on some domain spell options. For those of you who want a more Pharasma-friendly version of the Death domain and the Souls subdomain... behold!

Pharasma-Friendly Death Domain 3rd-level domain spell: Replace animate dead with speak with dead. 6th-level domain spell: Replace create undead with antilife shell. 8th-level domain spell: Replace create greater undead with symbol of death.

Pharasma-Friendly Souls Subdomain 3rd-level domain spell: Replace animate dead with speak with dead.

The church despises the undead as abominations to the natural order, and all priests follow this belief without question; creating undead is forbidden, and controlling existing undead frowned upon.

An Oldy but a goody!

The Original intent of the Original PFS coordinator was to allow scrolls and Wands to be bought at Higher caster level, But a misunderstanding between myself, Mark (Yes that Mark) and Joshua led to a weird chain of events that it was not clarified in the guide and not added PFS.

And it is all My Fault!!!! *cries*

Here is the original post by Joshua

Here is a description of the weird chain of events that led to it not being added.

I have always felt bad about this one... :(

Michael Brock wrote:

Dragnmoon is correct.

I always knew this day would come. I just thought it wouldn't happen until December 21.

It has happened many times!!

Mark

Joshua J. Frost

Ryan Bolduan (Venture-Captain, Minnesota)

Neil Shackleton (Former Venture-Captain, Canada—Ontario)

Diego Winterborg (Venture-Captain, Denmark)

So Bite me!... ;)

But I have to ask: do the GM has any level restriction with the chronicle? For example: I play Feast of Ravenmoor (level 3 module) as a GM and I'll give the chronicle to my level 7 character. Or I play Tomb of the Iron Medusa (level 14 module) and I give the credit to my level 5 character. Is this still correct?

The character that gets the GM credit need to fall into the level of the Module.

Using your Example the character getting GM credit for Feast of Ravenmoor would need to be levels 2-4, or Tomb of the Iron Medusa levels 13-15.

If you don't have a character of the levels of the Module you can "hold" the credit until you do.

Hopefully the typo in "Bogot" is not in the actual book. The city should be "Bogota" with an "a" at the end. (I'm Colombian-American). It will be interesting to see how the country is portrayed in the cybernetic future.

Every other product page I see for this says "Bogotá"

So looks like just a problem here.

Thanks! I had downloaded it the day 4.1 was released, and didn't know there was an update after that.

There wasn't, Most likely you Downloads page did not refresh and when you downloaded it you downloaded the prior version.

No Author yet?

That goes for the other ones you just added as well.

Ack! I've been outed :)

Good to see Russ get a scenario, hopefully this will lead to more and a Module in the future!

That was fixed in the new guide Vs 4.1

You can re-download the guide for the latest version.

I have not added to this thread in awhile but I have 2 new things to add.

First

We have out grown our current location, Dragon's Lair, and we are now adding a second location for play starting in March!

Top Deck Gamers

2379 NE Loop 410, Suite 110
San Antonio, TX 78217

To help decide which location is best for you I have set up the Below Map

Pathfinder Society San Antonio Locations

Second

Not only do we use the Obsidian Portal mentioned above for passing news and tracking information we also us the below Warhorn site for Scheduling.

Pathfinder Society San Antonio Warhorn

If you have any questions you can either send me a PM here or an email.

And 2 more.. 2 that seem to bring up a lot of questions.

Seasons 1 and 2 (Scenarios #29–#56 and #2–01 through #2–26): These scenarios all include two faction missions. For characters using the standard advancement track, one of these should be considered the faction mission and the other the success condition for the scenario, maintaining the 2 Prestige Point maximum.

I know what you guys where trying to say with this, to keep the same theme going, but it has just been to damn confusing.

Change to

Seasons 1 and 2 (Scenarios #29–#56 and #2–01 through #2–26): These scenarios all include two faction missions. Completing overall scenario goal for these scenarios does not give you a prestige point. Characters using the standard advancement track get 1 prestige point per faction mission competed.

Also

Additionally, except for specific examples cited in this guide or the Pathfinder Society FAQ, the Craft skill is not legal for play and crafting of mundane items is not allowed in Pathfinder Society.

Saying Craft skill is not legal for play is just not true, it invalidates many Missions and scenarios using the craft skill for a success condition which both don't meet the criteria "specific examples cited in this guide".

Change to

Additionally, except for specific examples cited in this guide or the Pathfinder Society FAQ, crafting of mundane items is not allowed in Pathfinder Society.

the Craft skill is not legal for play and was removed from above.

ooooh I got one...

Current Reading

Any spell cast by a PC during the course of a scenario that is still active at the end of a scenario ends when the scenario does.

Change to

Any spell cast by a PC or NPC during the course of a scenario that is still active at the end of a scenario ends when the scenario does.

I can certainly understand why that would be a tough sell for some people, especially in this economy. You might want to consider exempting VCs who live far enough away, as you do for foreign VCs. Or else maybe adding one or two other cons in other areas to your list.

IMO I would rather they did not.

Being a VC requires a lot of you own Personal Time, Sweat and tears.

You have to be willing to Travel as a VC even in your local area because it is usually bigger then just your local City.

You have to be willing to maybe Provide Scenarios and Support for those Games.

You have to be Willing to provide all your time during the Local conventions.

You have to be Willing to be the Faceman for Paizo and travel around to other Gaming stores in your area just so they know who you are and see what kind of support you can provide.

And there is Much, Much more!

All of this requires your own personal money and if you can't afford or find the time to go to either Gen Con or PaizoCon, then most likely you can't afford or find the time to be a VC.

All that and PaizoCon and GenCon are both the 2 Big Cons for Paizo and they like being able see their VCs when they are all together.

All that said, if you can't do the above or Afford the above that is not a Bad thing, you can still do much for your city and Paizo just as a Coordinator.

I finally broke

You have been Broke for a loooong time.. ;)

LazarX wrote:

No... class archetypes are archetypes for those specific classes ONLY. You can't take ninja archetypes for rogues or vice versa.

I don't think that's right. Alternate classes count as their base class.. if the alternate class still has the ability an archetype for the base class has to replace, there's no reason the alternate class couldn't take it.

Example:

Ninjas can't take rogue archetypes that trade out trapfinding because they can't trade it.

Ninjas can take rogue archetypes that trade out say, sneak attack, because they still have that to trade out.

Or another way to say it..

Is yes alternate class is just a Super Archetype, but just like Archetypes you can take 2 if they do not replace the same abilities.

That said, there may not be many of them. Because alternate class touch soo much of the Base class it does not leave much room to fit an Archetype.

As for the trips to Paizocon or Gen-con, could a suitably giant con in the southeast suffice, say Dragon-con in Georgia or Mega-con here in FL.

I don't speak for Mike, but in the past those 2 Cons where non-negotiable.

As a VC you had to be able to go to one of them.

Only those VC outside of the US where not required, not sure about Canada.

pfft .. I work in healthcare with insurance .. it's already shattered

hmmmm, that explains a lot... ;)

This topic has been discussed ad nauseum and you are more than welcome to read those threads, but I don't think those of use that lived through those discussions care to revisit them.

*Forces those memories upon Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome*

Muhahahaha, you shall never escape them. You will be tortured with them over and over until your sanity shatters!

I just realized we are talking about a Ranger here and the Archetype Deep Walker.

So that is another problem all together..

Rangers are limited to what Companions they can take and Deep Walker does not open up the limitation (Like Beast Master Does).

So even if Paizo added more Companions like you are looking for, as a Deep Walker Ranger you could not take them.

Perhaps you could talk it over with the Pazio guys, they might all ready have something suitable that I don't know about.

Give me a moment and take a look at all my books and see if there is something.

Edit:

Not much out there.

Closest I would say would be a Dire Bat.

You can also take Vermin Companions which have that feel

This is more of a Pathfinder RPG request then a PFS request.

Mike can't add anything to PFS that is not already in the game.

If there is a specific type of Companion you wish added to Pathfinder the place to go is those forums.

If there is a Specific type of Companion that has already been stated for Pathfinder by Paizo that has not been authorized for PFS, those you can request be added.

Is there one?

Thanks Mike

and having the chance to GM Dragnmoon in a mod after he has run many games for me at cons.

It is almost like I am your official Convention GM. ;)

Thanks, I was also curious about getting more involved and in venture-captaining, There's one in my state, but over 50 miles away.

I took another look at the VCs, and there are at least 2 that are closer togther then myself and my VC.

The Ohio VCs... so distance does not fully factor in.

Edit: And he is looking for one in your area!

Is there a link to this on the PFS Pazio Page?

I tried the About page and just get a blank page.

If not can you add one?

eah! my wife has an interesting twist on her Aasimar - she gave her an "8" dex, then in game explanes that she is 5 months "with child".

a Year from now will her character still be 5 month's pregnant.. ;)..

Thanks, I was also curious about getting more involved and in venture-captaining, There's one in my state, but over 50 miles away.

50 miles is actually fairly close.

Mine is 60 - 70 miles away and only has a few more gamers then me and I am not sure I could convince Mike to let me be a VC.

That said my VC is willing to travel, which should be a pre-reg of a VC.

Edit: I don't speak for Mike...

deusvult - I personally think that the once-per-faction rule that used to part of PPP was reasonable ... but I guess it was causing some other issues?

One of the issues, was that the rule was only supposed to be used to make a Legal table, so the only time you could "replay" was when there was 2 or 3 players at the table and you needed another to make the table legal but he already played it, it allowed for that player still to get credit.

There was evidence that the rule was being abuse and not used in that way.

so the replay rule was very limiting but I think people where "working the system" to remove that limitation.

I want to make a character for society play and was wanting to use the eastern weapons starting on page 130 of Ultimate Combat. I looked in the additional resources for your character area and it only talks about which firearms are allowed. So can a character use the eastern weapons or not?

From additional resources for UC

All material from this book is legal for play except as noted below.

Since they are not "Noted Below" the answer is yes.

At any point will you guys be introducing private massaging?

I think Richard Pett is working on that right now, though it may include tentacles and losing your sanity in either order... ;)

I'm confused by the wording on beacon of good. It says that any pathfinder caught selling their wayfinder is kicked out of the faction and needs to pick another one. But how can they sell their wayfinder? Since they used prestige points to pay for it, it has no selling price.

May I ask where is this From? I believe it but don't remember ever seeing it.

A Basic wayfinder can be bought with gold for 250gp with no Prestige Points.

Also I thought the title of this thread was Bacon of Good...mmmmmmm bacon...;)

I thought that changing factions after your first scenario cost prestige. Will I be able to change it after I go through the first three intros at no cost (since the intros won't give me prestiqe right)?

This is just a reporting thing.

For the Intro scenarios the person who reports the scenarios can always go back and change them later in the system to actually match the Faction he picked after they are over. It does not affect you as the player at all.

The player still does not pick a faction until the end but the coordinator/GM/reporter can put in a place holder in the system until they are complete and then change them.

You can train a craft skill for day job purposes.

They are also used many times for success in Faction missions and other checks during scenarios.

What the line is supposed to mean is that you can't use Craft Skill to craft Items other than those mentioned in the Guide *Alchemist and Poisoner*.

I would love to see some table interaction/consequences between tier levels and, if not, would rather the tiers tasks be different. This would eliminate the (as JP Chapleau put it) "you're in the same room, but you're not but you are, but you're not, but you are". Not only would it separating the tasks/encounters, based on tiers make the challenges more level appropriate, that same separation would make it a different scenario dependent on what level you played it at instead of "the same with different monsters... GRR!"

You have to be careful with this, as it was as a GM it was a pain in the ass to prep for the specials.

my experience at PaizoCon and GenCon was so bad last year and such a pain to bring that many Minis to prep for so many tiers that I decided I will not do them anymore even though it hurts my chance to become a 5 Star.

If I had to prep for fully different encounters for all the tiers as a GM there is no chance in hell I would run one again.

If there are any changes to specials make it easier on the GMs.

I received the print version in the mail over the weekend.

The map is much easier to read in the print version then it is in the PDF, though I still think the grid marking need to be subdued more.

Miss chance is a game term though. When you have concealment which gives you a miss chance you are concealed.

It that was not the intent that sentence about bypassing miss chance would have no reason to exist.

My Point was the word "concealed" in True Strike does not just mean 20% chance.

Concealed is a 20% miss chance that True Strike negates.

The word Concealed and the Condition Concealment are 2 different things.

Dragnmoon wrote:

Tim Statler wrote:

I would have to say yes.

If that is the case then a Rogue can use Sneak attack against Concealed targets with their True Strike attack?

Making sure before I get a wand of True Strike.

I would say no, since True Strike only negates the miss chance, not any of the other benefits of concealment.

Makes sense..

I would have to say yes.

If that is the case then a Rogue can use Sneak attack against Concealed targets with their True Strike attack?

Making sure before I get a wand of True Strike.

Does True Strike negate the miss chance of Invisibility?

Relevant rules

You gain temporary, intuitive insight into the immediate future during your next attack. Your next single attack roll (if it is made before the end of the next round) gains a +20 insight bonus. Additionally, you are not affected by the miss chance that applies to attackers trying to strike a concealed target.

Even once a character has pinpointed the square that contains an invisible creature, the creature still benefits from total concealment (50% miss chance).

What I meant by brought up and never got answered was that It never got answered by Paizo *Now Mark and Mike*.

From the last time I brought this up I already know what people think it is, but in my mind at least it is not clear in the guide.

I can go either way, just looking for some clarification.

I am fully willing to make my own call on how I think the guide reads without a clarification.

I am going to keep my opinion on how I think it works out of this post this time because My OP was not about How I think it should work but wondering how it does works.

Edit: Also my opinions for some odd reason get construed as argumentative when I don't mean them to be so I am taking a conscience effort to avoid that when I don't need to bring it up..;)

Mike made the following comment in another thread that reminded me of something I brought up a while back but never got an answer for and I think it is a good time to bring it up again.

Yes, if you complete the requisite number of encounters as outlined in the 4.1 Guide, then you would receive a Chronicle minus the gold not earned from not finishing encounters, as well as items marked off the Chronicle that were not recovered in the course of play.

That brings up the following questions...

If you don't complete the requisite number of encounters as outlined in the 4.1 Guide do you not receive a chronicle sheet?

And if you don't can you play the scenario again later to receive the the 1 allowed player Chronicle?

Do you report non Competed Scenario?

Do you still get GM credit for non Competed Scenarios?

I really don't think Mandatory Audits at conventions is a good idea or really feasible. I do think voluntary ones are. The idea is to help players, especially new ones, find mistakes on their PC and in the process learn more about the rules, not make them feel like they may be a cheater.

For Gencon last year Lone Wolf had a few computers outside the PFS room for people to make their PCs on Herolabs, Herolabs is an excellent source for making PCs with errors at a minimum.

By posts I have seen by Lone Wolf they seem very willing to help support conventions and I think they could be helpful for conventions like Gencon but at a slightly larger scale.

I bet, though I can't be sure, that Lone Wolf would be willing to give some kind of incentive to players, like a Herolabs discount or free secondary license *I got a free secondary license at PaizoCon from them last year* to players who build their PC on Herolabs at the convention.

This would require them to have more PCs near the PFS games and more Lone Wolf volunteers at the systems to help people with the program. Of course this would also have the bonus of possibly selling more Herolabs for them.

The same rules apply. You may only have one of a particular Chronicle on any character at any given time. For instance, you can't put five sanctioned tales Chronicles on one character, you can't put five GM credit Chronicles on one character, and you can't put multiple of the same convention Chronicle on one character.

This is a non-issue.

Thanks Mike.

Though I am afraid I am about to dip my toe watery quagmire I have some questions about Boons from Conventions.

Some of the Boons don't seem to mention that only one of them can be added to a Character and I am wondering if that was intended?

As an example I have 5 free vanity Boons and there is nothing on the boons from stopping me from adding all 5 to 1 PC, or another example I have 3 Trained eye Boons (+2 [un-typed] Bonus to perception), same thing I can add those 3 to one character and get a +6 to my perception.

Is this a non-issue?

or

Something not intended?

I don't see anything unclear. It states "starting the Tier 12 scenarios/events." Events include modules, specials, interactives, and any other event that allows play of a 12th level PC. No where is Eyes of Ten singled out. In the future we may have other Tier 12 scenarios. What is exactly unclear about it?

At least in my head, Scenarios/Events does not Cover modules, they are 3 distinct things. Many times in the guide the distinction between Module ans scenarios is brought up, this rule if it covers modules goes away from that.

In fact the same section separates them.

That line is not consistent with that distinction.

Edit: Example

Upon reaching 13th level, a character may no longer play Tier 12 adventures, but may play any number of Tier 13 and higher events, scenarios, or sanctioned Pathfinder Modules, advancing 1 level every 3 XP as normal.

The way the guide is written makes it seem we are supposed to think of them as different.

Yes, you can play level 12 modules in place of the Eyes of Ten. The line you bolded is to prevent people from gaming the system to finish the last two scenarios of Eyes of Ten at 14th level.

If you hit 12th level, and you play Ruby Phoenix Tournament or Academy of Secrets, you advance to 13th level at the end of the module.

Got ya, You may think about in the future editing that to make it more clear.