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First off I am going to start of admitting that my request for allowing the Story Summoner Archetype (The Harrow Handbook pg 25) for Unchained Summoner is based on selfish reasons. It is an Archetype I have always been interested in and once the Harrow Deck was allowed it was the only Archetype that actually made the Summoner interesting to me. In my opinion it is one of the more story rich archetypes around the harrow deck and has links to my favorite module The Harrowing. Just as I was about to start playing the PC I made (Started off with GM credit) PFS changed to Unchained Summoner.
That said here is why it is not legal for Unchained Summoner. According to the Blog "Society Unchained" the unchained summoner qualifies for all existing summoner archetypes, save those that modify the eidolon's type or base form. Which the Story Summoner does with the following:
Evolve Base Form (Su): Starting at 8th level, whenever he gains a level, the story summoner can change his eidolon’s base form to a new base form. Once chosen, this base form is set until the story summoner gains another summoner level. This ability replaces transposition.
Now this particular class ability still works with unchained summoner but you would be limited to what base form you can change to by your subtypes available forms which for some would mean you can't change at all. So in itself it works fine with unchained summoner and does not break the unchained summoner class.
So in itself it is not an archetype that does not work with Unchained Summoner. But there is another reason why I am making this request. There is another Archetype that is legal for unchained summoner that does the same thing but allowed you to do so more often and starting at level 1, the Morphic Savant from Monster Summoner's Handbook pg 16. Here is the ability in question:
Eidolon of Chaos: A morphic savant’s eidolon must be of a chaotic alignment (if using the summoner from Pathfinder Unchained, the eidolon must have the azata, demon, or protean subtype). The morphic savant’s eidolon has three base forms: biped, quadruped, and serpentine. Each form has the same feats and skills, but has its own set of evolutions. When the summoner meditates and regains his spell slots for the day, he can select any of the three base forms of his eidolon. The eidolon has 1 fewer evolution point than normal for an eidolon of the morphic savant’s summoner level, and has 1 fewer skill point per Hit Die. This ability alters eidolon.
Yes it is a different ability but it also allows you to change your base form of any of 3 forms at the beginning of the day starting at first level. It is also not limited to the Subtypes base forms as the archetype gives you the base forms not the subtype, so in the case of the Azata and Protean you actually get more base forms.
I would love it if you would reconsider allowing story summoners for unchained summoner based on above and would love to hear input from others against or for.
Jeffrey Fox wrote:
If this is the case I am not a fan of this change. My personal experience with who actually uses PreGens most of the time, this only hurts new players and keeping them.
The new Source Added with the Additional Resources update on 10 June 2016 is:
Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Heaven Unleashed: Deity: The empyreal lord Andoletta is a legal divine patron.
I am still hoping to get an answer on this, I know we have plenty of ideas on how or if this can be done, but I think we will need an answer on this. Been holding off on building a Vigilante until I have a better understanding on how this works in PFS.
How are we to handle changing the area of Renown for the Vigilante class?
It normally takes up to a week to begin with to build up renown in a new small community, there are no mechanics for it.
Can Vigilantes gain renown in a new area outside the scenario during downtime or between scenarios?
Do they pick a location when first built and keep that from scenario to scenario and can never change it?
What UndeadMitch said.
Not all Modules can be done in Campaign Mode (with a non-PFS character). This Mode was only created when the Modules started getting longer with The Dragons Demand. So sadly you can't apply PFS credit to a PFS character.
Below are the Modules that allow that method of play:
The Dragon's Demand
All Adventure Paths that have chronicle sheets can also be played the same way.
All other Modules to get PFS credit need to played with a PFS character using the same the normal rules for PFS.
First Questions is answered in this this FAQ:
Second Question, you can wear Barding without the armor proficiency but you get the penalties for not having that proficiency.
And last questions, Armor Proficiency, Heavy had]s the prerequisite of Armor Proficiency, Medium which has a prerequisite of Armor Proficiency, Light so you can't take heavy until you have medium and you can't take medium until you have light.
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I know this is a free product an most likely at the bottom of your list but what are the chances of us seeing this update soon? I would love to update my Advertising flyers for PFS and my PFS web pages with the current seasons logos.
Steve Lau/Dragnmoon has a post around here, thought it was stickied, with a link to a Google document with a bare bones listing of all PFS legal deities.
They un-stickied it when they added it to the PFS FAQ.
Hmmm, My File for the most recent guide I name Guide to Pathfinder Society Organized Play 7-0 not Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide 7-0. That would cause all type of alphabetical order problems!
Tabletop Giant wrote:
I do that on occasion, well not theme music, but sound effect from Syrinscape. I love using the wilhelm scream.
Edit: I would like to add that I don't do this in open rooms, and mostly as a GM.
Steven, at least based on Nefreet's experience, there are a number of people who believe Hero Lab is infallible and will argue that HL is correct even when shown the book.
That is a people problem not a program problem.
Edit: And what exactly are they arguing? Because you can't use HeroLabs as a source for an argument, which is once again not a problem with HeoLabs but the person not following the rule that they need the authorized rule source.
I am very perplexed how HeroLabs can cause arguments. It is just an interactive character sheet. In fact if you allow the print out of the character sheet from herolabs you have no reason to not allow the digital version since they are the exact same thing. What you see on the paper is what you see on the iPad just different format. Before the iPad version came out I used to add my most common buffs and print a bunch of versions of my character sheet out with those buffs included. Like I said, what you see on the iPad version is what you see on the character sheet.
I am not saying it does not have bugs, it does, none though that should be cause of an argument since they are minor bugs. I will go back to what I posted before on HeroLabs:
Most of the time it is reliable but on occasion there is a bug with it. If you know the software and the rules in question you can catch it and know how to work around it. In general you won't have problems but when yo do you need to know the rules don't let the program be your only knowledge source. Don't buy new software and expect to use it right away with out expecting issues (mostly user generated issues due to being unfamiliar with the program) and pissing people off. Learn the software first and use it in an environment that will allow you to. That way people/GMs who in general don't trust programs really have nothing to complain about.
Now If they are using HeroLabs as a source for the rules, that is a different story. You just tell them they can't and please pull out an approved rule source. I have done that in the past and will continue in the future. I know that HeroLabs biggest problem is not in it's ability to implement a bonus to it's character most of the time that is correct, and when it is wrong it is user error. It's biggest problem is not getting the actual text correct because they like short handing or re-wording the stuff they put in, that is the main reason you should never use it as a rules source, which you are not allowed to anyway.
Andrew Christian wrote:
Here is the a few things about electronic devices
Table Space - If all you have is a Huge Laptop I would recommend not going digital because table space can be a premium and you are taking way too much of it. This is especially true for conventions.
Power - Power outlets can be an issue, know where you are playing prior to bringing that laptop. If your play area has plenty of outlets that you can sit right next to this should not be a problem. If the outlet is all the way across the room and you have to run an extension cord, Don't Do IT!!!!. I can't emphasis this enough, you are causing a trip hazard and a danger to others. And the Organizer will most likely tell you to unplug. In this case leave the laptop home. I would recommend never to bring laptops to conventions because you can't control where you sit. This is less an issue with tablets since they in general have a longer battery life.
Unreliability of the software - Know the rules and know the Software. All software can and will have it's problems. HeroLabs as an example, most of the time it is reliable but on occasion there is a bug with it. If you know the software and the rules in question you can catch it and know how to work around it. In general you won't have problems but when yo do you need to know the rules don't let the program be your only knowledge source. Don't buy new software and expect to use it right away with out expecting issues and pissing people off. Learn the software first and use it in an environment that will allow you to. That way people/GMs who in general don't trust programs *Cough*Nefreet*Cough* really have nothing to complain about.
Always, Always, Always! have a paper backup of your PC just in case everything goes to s!%% with your electronic device. Not only that, Thems be the rulez.
GM Lamplighter wrote:
Hmm... here, in FtF games with the local group, people fill out their entire Chronicle before it gets signed, because that's the rule. People can't "purchase items between games", because they have to do so with a GM present, because those are the rules. In practice, they make the notes on their ITS with the next Chronicle# filled in, and it gets done at the beginning of their next session.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That!, especially at conventions. But you have every right to enforce it, though it would be near impossible to do so at large conventions.