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The good side of the evil AP, is to see the official stance of Paizo, to how to conduct the way my players actually play all the other APs.

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xavier c wrote:
so?

So the book show most gods as "white", even if the Inner Sea region is not only Avistan, and have parts of Garund and Casmaron.

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thejeff wrote:

I certainly don't think that's Paizo's intention. I guess the question might be more "How high of a priority is it?"

Other than deities, do you think they're do a bad job?

No. In my personal opnion, they are doing a good job, knowing that they must feed their families. I just am trying to help, by pointing to some still remaining stereotypes, like the lack of a good outsider with black features. It don´t even need to be a new outsider type, just a regular angel or deva illustrated somewhere. It´s already a good thing that the iconic paladin is "black" (in truth she is garundi, but very few people notice she isn´t mwangi) or the investigator (the truly first iconic mwangi), and the recent adventures are a lot better portraiting non whites (Mummy Mask´s illustrations gained a lot of credits for Paizo around here).

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Lord Twitchiopolis wrote:
Draco Bahamut wrote:
So, what you are saying is that Paizo don´t want money from black people ? I am ok with that.

Now I'm almost certain that you're trolling.

Such a statement is like saying that Marvel doesn't want whites to enjoy Black Panther.
It's saying that you can only enjoy something if you have a direct relationship with the thing.
I can tell you now, that idea is a false one.

Yes, I am a strait white male. But when I play Pathfinder I don't have to be.
I can be a strong minded Asian woman who has developed control issues due to living in her sister's shadow.
I can be a asexual white man with a god complex.
I can be an elderly dwarven woman who believes in the duality of nature.
I can be an aged bisexual male half orc who thinks that everything has a right to freedom.

I don't play Pathfinder to be who I am, I play to to be someone I'm not.

No, i am not. I am really ok with that. It´s just that in my city, "black" is not a minority, and many people refuse to play fantasy RPG games from USA because there so minor role for the black people. I am the local Venture-captain and i try hard to make more people experiment the game, and that work would be easier if there is more black cultural elements. If that is not Paizo intention, than i can rest and quit to try to sell this game as inclusive for our needs. But i well aware that my city culture is VERY away from what a "american" game should worry.

I don´t know very well about USA black people (beyond movies), but i guess they would play more if there were more divine significance in being black than just a barbaric people that have to learn the civilized way so they can go to heaven.

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Fourshadow wrote:


Actually, I liked Andoran long before I knew it was so America-esque. I find Darkmoon Vale very intriguing and have since its appearance. I just wish we could get dream wolf stats!

Maybe it will come out in the Occult Bestiary.

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I find it funny too, how many pseudo-england or pseudo-denmark we did see across campaing settings ? A pseudo-"America" is new. Or at least, doing the same to themselves as they have done to others. It seems legit.

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Morzadian wrote:

It's not a simple issue that's binary is nature (black or white), How allegorical is the Pathfinder campaign setting supposed to be?

Do we ban Amiri because she goes against the ideas promoted in contemporary feminist theory?

Do we hold Paizo responsible for such actions? And what do we do about it?

Do we bombard their twitter accounts like critically minded feminists did to Joss Whedon during Avengers 2?

Paizo is just a role-playing game publisher not justice's hand for all of the world's woes. They do have a policy of inclusion not exclusion, and they do that admirably, although they do have to cater to the interests of a broad range of people, and make products that sell.

Not everyone views Pathfinder as a vehicle for social progression, and its fine that people do, but I think the history of D&D/Pathfinder and its community is strong enough to have many versions of the Pathfinder game.

Create some african gods and submit them to a 3PP publisher, accountability starts at home, rather than always expecting other people to do it for you.

Edit: I have studied post-colonial theory while at university, and queer theory, my senior lecturer, Adam Geczy wrote a book about it, so I have some idea how complex the issue is. It's not an easy fix and can be divisive even among people within the same community. Paizo are doing their best in the often turbulent socio-political climate we exist in.

So, what you are saying is that Paizo don´t want money from black people ? I am ok with that.

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Hello again Mr. James Jacobs,

There is an Azata dedicated to sports/competitions/tournments or such things should be under other race ? If not, who would be the best outsider races for a sports overseer outsider ?

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Non-white <> Black

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Lord Twitchiopolis wrote:
Draco Bahamut wrote:
The problem is that the book themselves seldom show ethnic african divine beings, as if there was a hidden code that black people can´t be good gods or angels.
Pretty sure that the iconic paladin is black....

That the iconic paladin is a black woman that follow a white goddess, can say lot about the situation, but she is still a mortal. I wanted to see a true divine holy beign that have a face of "african" people.

Like the orishas from the earlier link. There was a really missed chance in Gozreh not looking black ...

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Tim Statler wrote:

I don't recall seeing any evil black gods or devils/demons either.

As for divinity, Old Man Jutumbi (sp?) is at least a demi-god.

Beyond the white-skin = good, black-skin = evil ? There is a villain in Legacy of Fire.

Jatembi is a wizard, often associated with evil outsiders.

African religions have a really bad reputation in USA (as far as i know), so i coundn´t really blame Paizo for not taking risks.

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The problem is that the book themselves seldom show ethnic african divine beings, as if there was a hidden code that black people can´t be good gods or angels.

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I got some vibes of Harsk/Ezren on the comics. Tea buddies.

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*hide in shadows* bump *moves silently*

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At last !!! *jumps in joy*

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Mudball is a nice spell for goblin rogues

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My Summer subtype is Beach, and my base form is flip flops and boardshorts.

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There are 31 iconics today and there will be 37 iconics by the end of the year. If there were a comic book line for all of them and they wanted to keep divided by six-persons parties, then there would be 6 comics lines for parties and a solo adventurer comic line. What would be your choice of parties compositions ?

We already have Seoni (Sorcerer), Valeros (Fighter), Kyra (Cleric), Meisiel (Rogue), Harsk (Ranger), and Ezren (Wizard) in the core party.

We could name Sajan (Monk), Amiri (Barbarian), Lini (Druid), Setyel (Magus), Lem (Bard), and Seelah(Paladin) for the alternative party (they lack a trap-springer and a full arcane caster, but the first party was power hungry and got both). Seelah mighty have trouble adventuring with Setyel, but would be interesting story-wise.

Then we have the APG party: Alain (Cavalier), Damiel (Alchemist), Feiya (Witch), Alahazra (Oracle), Balazar (Summoner), and Imrijka (Inquisitor). They only would need help with traps.

Now the trouble comes. Between the Ultimates Iconics, the Advanced Class Iconics and the Occult iconics, we have to make three parties that lack a lot of essencial roles.

I would make the Hybrid Party with: Kess (Brawler), Shardra (Shaman), Enora (Arcanist), Quinn (Investigator), Hakon (Skald) Adowyn (Hunter), and have all bases covered.

The the hardcore outcasts party: Hayato (Samurai), Oloch (Warpriest), Crowe (Bloodrager), Zadim (Slayer), Reiko (Ninja), and Lirianne (Gunslinger).

Name Jirelle for a solo comics.

But a party made of the Occultist, Medium, Kineticist, Spiritualist, Psychic, and Mesmerist seems to lack a true melee type, or a dedicated healer. Can they survive ?

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And if we could have an action to lend a action to the next round ? Like a 2 act now to do a 4 acts next round ?

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Kudaku wrote:
If low magic translates to "magic items are super rare, fighting everything in the Bestiaries, casters are allowed for play" the Automatic system by itself isn't enough to balance a party of casters with a party of non-casters. If low magic translates to "magic items are super rare, predominantly non-flying humanoid enemies, no spellcasters allowed" then the Automatic System can probably pull it off, though you'll be spending a lot of time resting and healing between fights. The Automatic System makes low magic/no-magic campaigns easier to run but it won't necessarily do all the work for you.

In this case, the Skill Unlock Heal would help mitigate the Healing Problem a bit. But i guess this sysmtem work a lot in a ambient where the players don´t wish to keep buying and upgrading their itens so much.

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Skill Unlock Heal seems to heal a lot.

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Can we translate this for non-english-reading players ?

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Hoorray ! Loved them ! Congratulations everyone involved. Thenk you very much.

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With so many classes and archetypes and thousands of feats out there, it woundn't be cool to have a ability identification mechanic ? We already have spellcraft for spells, but what tour stance on class abilities/feats identification ? They do it all the time on anime, bit i really don't know if players should identify a orc fighter among orc barbarians on distancie, or have to explain what that brawler is doping exactly.

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Devir is not serious about the Brazilian's Rpg Market. It's a shame that others serious publishers Like Galapagos couldn't take Pathfinder translation.

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Vic Wertz wrote:

Out now:
•French (Black Book Editions)
•German (Ulisses Spiele)
•Italian (Giochi Uniti)
•Portuguese (Devir)
•Spanish (Devir)
Coming Soon:
•Chinese
•Hebrew
•TBA (and this isn't just a "someday there will hopefully be more" thing, it's a "contracts are currently in process" thing).

Sorry Mr. Wertz, Spanish's Devir and Portuguese's Devir are completely different monsters. We still are waiting for any Pathfinder RPG product to be lauched.

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Brazil don't have even a 4th star GM yet :(

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The Silver Crusade is a good exemple of how good should behave in the Pathfinder Society. They know that the Pathfinder Society is a loose sword, but it can be guided to do good deeds, so they try to make the best to all missions. What a paladin would do in the army in the present day ? He would fall day one ? He would try to fight the system ? Or he would fight each day knowing that the world is not perfect (and never would be), but he would try to do his part ?

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4) Pacifist Healer
5) Bardic Healer
6) Druidic Knight

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N N 959 wrote:
None of the Investigators I've GM'd or teamed with have been combat focused. So I look forward to seeing one in action.

I am doing a combat investigator for a Carrion Crown campaing i am playing.

Its a Half Orc Investigator with a Great Axe. S16 D12 C12 I16 W10 C08

He is basically a product of a ante that a half-orc raised by orcs couldn't graduate in Lepistadt.

So far has been fun, but still 2nd level.

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I guess rules bloats hurts compulsive optimizers most, as they NEED to have the perfect characters and if there are too rules, they can't consider everything and they fear other people are doing better characters then them and they can't allow that.

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Hmmm. Already checked both boxes, and still don´t work.

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Hmmm. All my pre today events are checked on the left, so i thought left was regular. Thanks a lot.

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When i try to report a scenario, i am getting a error message:

Quote:

IMPORTANT

One or more characters cannot play this scenario due to being the wrong character/scenario type.

What i am doing wrong ?

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I mostly GM only Adventure Paths and Pathfinder Society and i am quite pleased by adventure paths. I am a really natural sandbox type GM, my own adventures take forever because i have a easy time making the world alive and reacting to everything the players do, so i barelly have any plot focus and adventure paths really help me to have any sempblance of focus.
And still, my players have gamed in sandpoint almost 4 mounths before going to any dungeon.
I even took two sessions in Reign of Winter before the first road event just by roleplaying in town.
I only learned to focus on the written adventure by GMing Pathfinder Society, and i really adimit i could run any scenario for months just by the huge amount of background information that i can turn in roleplaying.
I really love Paizo work because they publish a lot more they need in background of everything.
My players really loved Sandpoint, to the point they knew lots of NPCs on first name basis, and even unnamed NPCs became important like town guards or random street kids. I never had this level of inspiration to run a town since i used to play in Dragonlance and Solace was our hometown.
Yeah, there is lot of combat, but every combat has meaning. Most people should really rush eveything so adventures don't take forever, but if you don't, there is a lot to do in slowtime.

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Brazil is still here !

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In Brazil we face a harsh reality. Most potential players can't read english, a lot of potential GMs don't read english good enough to GM. There is not a portuguese translation of the core yet, but maybe there is one. So core is a natural choice for us. But most or actual regulars are collectors that bought books only to play in pathfinder society. So is a tough choice until we have more GMs.

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I call using mass combat rules to resolve that.

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I really hope is the new Blakros.

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BretI wrote:

Strange, there is a review of the product already yet it shows as not available for another five days.

Do subscribers get it before other people?

Yes, some more than others.

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As a Trunau native, i kinda wish Oloch was a Iconic for this Path.

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These sneaky sassy skies.... Allways needin' a good ol' dose of watching.

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Nog64 wrote:


While I agree having the Orishas as Gods would be interesting, and I do enjoy Paizo giving us the options to add already existing mythical concepts in Pathfinder (Archdevils, some Demon & Empyeral Lords, a whole host of creatures, etc), I think that it would not be wise for them to try and add those Gods into the list of "official" deities. Unlike some of the existing pantheons that have been added to Pathfinder (Egyptian Gods, Great Old Ones, etc), there are living adherents to the Orishas today, in the form of Santeria, Voodoo, Candomble, etc. I haven't asked any followers of those religions personally, but my inkling is that they wouldn't much appreciate their gods being used to make money for a bunch of non-followers here in the States. I suppose I could be wrong though. On a tangential note, I also want to see La Santa Muerte be a psychopomp for Pharasma (and given that the religion is about as close a CN religion as I've ever I doubt many adherents would see it as a point of pride or otherwise not care).

They are worshiped in the city where i live, and this not keep them of appearing in a lame kung-fu-like capoeira movie in the past. Or even battling vampires in a old soap-opera.

But today i want to have the Orishas made to be spirits for the new medium class to ride.

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Put something for players that wanna play as Oloch, the iconic Warpriest.

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I don't know any lodge playing in the Amazon rainforest, but someday i want to play inside the closest thing we have of the darklands, the Ccavern complex inside the Chapada Diamantina park here in Brazil. Or maybe Iguazu Falls.

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This is the thread to determine what is written on the book or what is a reasonable way to interpret what is written on the book ?

Let's take a look on the consequences of both views:

Hypothesis 1: [evil] spells are really minor evil acts.

Expected (by me) pratical consequences: Some roleplaying interactions about not casting these spells, some players will describe the horrible corruption of their characters while casting these spells, others will simple ignore as they ignore all the minor evil actions all the murderhobos do in the curse of their days.

Hypothesis 2: [evil] spells are just a type of spell, without aligment implications

Expected (by me) pratical consequences: Wizards will cast Infernal Healing without guilt. Roleplayers still will roleplay the drama of their characters of having to cast [evil] spells but without any real mechanical consequence, neutral characters become more powerful because they can cast anything.

Hypothesis 3: [evil] spell have dire consequences on characters aligment

Expected (by me) pratical consequences: Paladins can't cast any [evil] spell. Neutral characters have to take a lot of care with what and how much they cast. Infernal Healing gets forbidden by a lot of gms. People will game the aligment system by casting [evil] or [good] spells. Wizards will troll their gms slaving angels just to prove a point. Roleplayers will still be brooding.

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You know that giving too much medicine can kill too ? Everything can be good and evil in the right circunstancy. There is evil ways of casting Cure Light Wounds. The Mythologic Prometheus is a example of evil healing.

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Maybe Paizo could introduce the mechanic of corruption to counter the mechanic of redemption.

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Yes, is a nice house rules that i am exposing here so GMs can make a better informed decision about their own house rules.

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The signing of the contract is the casting of the spell.

This is like taking a loan at a bank and giving to a child hospital, while it is a noble act, the bank still is taking interest over the money you took, you should have got it another way.

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