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Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
For those intent on subjecting themselves to Monday's PotUS debate, do you have any recommendations for alcoholic libations? (Sorry DB, no puff-puff/bubble-bubble for me)
I've taken a fondness for Downeast Cider. Don't know if you'll find that in Florida, but the seasonal pumpkin spice is alright--and even got the thumbs up from Comrade Who Was Published In Jacobin and he usually goes on violent anti-pumpkin spice rants this time of year--but I like the Cranberry Blend.
Also, we ended up getting a dozen to The Communist Manifesto lecture, but most of them came because of Facebook and only one because of the $43 worth of leaflets that I made.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
It is, however, cheaper than leaflets.
Sorry, one more:
I remember selling socialist papers with articles against all that shiznit, so I'm afraid the argument of "historical revisionism" doesn't hold much water with me.
Not my fault the rest of you took two decades to catch up.
Welcome, one and all, to the Comrade Anklebiter's Fun-Timey Revolutionary Socialism Thread, now, on fire!!!
As regards the other thread, I have no idea who Gandhi would vote for, but I'm certain Robespierre wouldn't vote for Hillary.
Anyway, debate went pretty well. Mr. Comrade killed it and Young Gay Comrade opined that "it was the best meeting he'd ever been to."
Later we collected all the comrades and kids went to Comrade Who Was Published in Jacobin's house and watched The Lion King.
I don't know.
It depends on whether you can stop taking a question like "I wonder if it makes any difference to black people who live in hellhole cities that the Democrats have controlled for decades* whether Democrats' racism is more subtle than Republicans" and turning it into "Are you saying Stephanie Rawlings-Blake orders police to murder black people?!?"
Two more articles that came across my feed and caught my fancy,
Repost from one of the convention threads, for fun:
And, again, my two favorite quotes because they come from politicians I've been in the same room with (you get to hear all the Massachusetts Democrats when you're in Teamsters Local 25):
"Faced with Sanders’ disproportionate attention to a nonbinding document, commentators have said it is important because Democrats have made it matter by focusing on it. But many aren’t.
"'I’ve never read the platform,' Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Mike Capuano said. 'It’s a tempest in a teapot. I am not beholden to the Democratic platform. I don’t know anybody who is.'
"'But it’s important to some people,' Capuano added.
"Former Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank, who helped write the Democrats’ 2012 platform, told Slate: 'I don’t remember what was in it.'"
Sorry, guys, been away.
Accusations of whitesplaining and sexism to defend Hillary's record on welfare reform and the crime bill in the '90s. Truly Adolph Reed (don't worry, a black man despite the name Adolph) was correct when he called identity politics "the left wing of neoliberalism."
The "super predator" comment coming from her speech, as First Lady, supporting the crime bill needs no documentation, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. She lobbied liberal lawmakers to pass it, says every article I've ever looked up.
She bragged in her 2003 autobiography that when she and Bill left the White House, welfare rolls had been slashed by 60%. She continued to champion the welfare reform bill until 2008. I can go get links substantiating those, if you like. If not, I'll just skip to another article from The Nation.
I don't know, maybe you'll think that one's sexist, too.
She, to this day I believe, but you guys would know better than me, considers Bill's term in office, along with Obama's, to be part of the legacy that she is running on.
But that's about economics, Comrade Anklebiter, what does that have to do with race? Well, hypothetical interlocutor, almost everything in the United States has to do with race, but, if you read the Michelle Alexander piece above, you will discover that one of the main reasons that the economy seemed so good under Bill, why unemployment seemed so down, was because they were finding all the black people they could and throwing them into jail and prisoners don't count as part of the unemployed.
I see there's pages and pages since I last popped in, but it's my Friday afternoon, I'm gonna get drunk and read Das Kapital.
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
I've been playing phone tag with La Principessa for about a week now, so I don't know any of the details, all I know is she texted me this morning that she couldn't talk this afternoon because she was going to the solidarity demo and when I get back from yelling at the school board committee member in Manchester who didn't want free books about Nelson Mandela and Frederick Douglass because it was pushing a political agenda of "multiculturalism," I find that the lockout is over.
That's my girl!
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
As that meme indicates, we Marxists aren't much better.
I saw occasional mention of Jane's job at the university and said university's closing.
I like how you describe his disastrous attacks on welfare and his role in creating the mass incarceration state as his "behavior" as if it was no different than his sexual infidelities.*
I think your accusations of sexism are nonsense. Hillary reinvented the role of the First Lady and used it to support the crime bill and welfare reform, the latter a pretty odd position for someone who's calling card is her lifelong service to women and children.
Yes. The article is from February and isn't trying to say that black people should vote for Trump.
However, before Comrade Jeff whipped out his "whitesplaining," I don't believe Citizen Moonrunner was arguing that people shouldn't vote for Hillary, just an honest assessment of the Democrats and the Clintons.
I think this article provides that.
Yeah, and IIRC, the Clintons tried to woo them back with their own Southern Strategy of executing mentally disabled black men, dismantling welfare and calling black youth "super predators."
Thomas Seitz wrote:
That's a good one. I even get it.
And I don't know what the f&+* you people are all worked up about.
Here we are in the dog days, before Hillary's even ramped up the campaigning, Trump's doing better than he has been for most of the election but, as of today, Hillary's still projected to kill Trump in the electoral college.
Bunch of Chicken Littles.
Anyway, abbreviated version of the story:
I was working with Surly Italian Teamster who is a vocal Trump supporter. He was trying to pin something, I forget, that Hillary had done on me ("Tim, I'm not a Democrat, I'm a communist" "What's the difference?" is a common refrain in our conversations) and I murmured, once again, that I wasn't voting for Hillary.
I'm guessing he's never heard of Jill Stein (nor Gloria La Riva, Monica Moorehead, Mimi Solstynik (sp? I forget), Jeff Mackler or any of the other commies running although, alas, not in NH), so he started telling me about the Gary Johnson clip above. "Oh yeah, I saw that, that was cool." "Cool? Are you out of your mind?" "Yeah, let them all in!" "Let them all in?!? Are you f#*!ing crazy?"
So we went at it. Him: What part of "illegal" don't you understand; insult to legal immigrants; immigrants cause wages to drop, etc., etc; Me: It's a racist law, workers of the world, unite!, organize the unorganized, etc., etc.
I got around to good ol' "We destroy their countries and they come here and pick tomatoes for your Big Macs and I don't give a f$#~ if they 'broke the law'" when he interrupted with "We destroyed Mexico?" I should have gone into NAFTA, which he might have liked, but I was still a bit buzzed from the parking lot, so instead I said "The largest number of undocumented workers come from Honduras and Guatemala" (which isn't actually true, but they're growing fast). I then went into a pretty good, tearjerking description of the overthrow of the democratically-elected Manuel Zelaya presidency in Honduras, and the death squad reign of terror against indigenous, trade union and environmentalist activists since then and Hillary's role in the sad affair.
It was pretty good, too, because he shut up for a minute and said "Hillary did that?" "Yeah, she legitimized it when she was Secretary of State." "That f%+&ing b~**#," he said (I decided I'd try working on his male chauvinism some other time), "Those poor people."
"Yeah, that's right. Todos somos ilegales!" I shouted giving the clenched fist salute. "What does that mean?" he asked. "Nobody Is Illegal!" I replied. (It doesn't.)
"You're f@**ing crazy!" "Join us, Tim!" I yelled as I headed back to my work station, "Join La Raza!" "Get out of here!" "Vive le Galt!"
Scott Betts wrote:
None of those things have anything to do with your responsibility as a citizen of the country. You have one job - to make a rational voting decision.
But Scott, I thought you said
I remember, because I marked my calendar.
I'm not crazy about Jill Stein, but I think, after her marching with my comrades against armed racists a couple months ago, and her actions in North Dakota, and how much liberals and Democrats talk shiznit about her, I'm going to break down and register to vote.
Anyway, I don't get the whole vaccine thing. Everybody's bending over backwards to excuse Hillary's lifelong dealing with union-busters, public education raiders, militarists, Wall Street, etc., etc. but Jill Stein's so despicable because she pandered a couple of times to hippies.
Citizen Snowblind, since the "Jill Stein is anti-vaxx" smear was released and been so widely disseminated, Citizen Stein has made repeated "I am pro-vaccination" statements. I don't really want to go looking for them, but I remember one of them was on The Young Turks, if that helps.
Took a break from Martin to read a short pamphlet by one of my South African comrades.
Just tell him Trump's dating Jodie Foster and everything should be fine.
Lengthy, wordy meme I saw on Facebook on some Australian Maoist page that I am typing here because I am very bored this Saturday evening (shoulda gone to Worcester):
What Your Leftist Ideology Says About You
COUNCIL COMMUNIST--You and the one other council communist who lives seventeen miles away have decided to form a worker's council, just like your hero, Antonio Gramsci, before he became a tankie.
POST LEFTIST--You don't exist to be understood, which is great, because your vocabulary sounds like a thesaurus achieved consciousness and then just never stopped talking.
ANARCHO-COMMUNIST--Your parents thought you were goth for the longest time because your entire wardrobe is black.
ORTHODOX MARXIST--You're a time traveler from the 1920's because that's the last time your politics were relevant.
TROTSKYIST--You've forgotten what's it like to not campaign for social-democrats. You think the best way to achieve full communism is by voting for liberals, and talking about Kshama Sawant. (Hee hee! at me)
MARXIST-LENINIST--You don't know who fought in Laos but you know they were right and if you disagree, you're a revisionist. You have no more than 30 friends on Facebook, and at least 20 of them you met at CPGB-ML event. (Hee hee! at Limey)
THIRD WORLDISM--You spend your days trying to get across how much you hate Unruhe. You are incredibly edgy. There's a 5% chance you have a Soviet flag in your room and a 95% chance you have either an RAF or Iranian flag in your room.
EGOISM--You fight capitalism every Friday night by going to the bar with your friends. You sit in silence, because all of you know that language is a spook.
MARXISM-LENINISM-MAOISM--You never leave your house without a copy of the Little Red Book. You're pretty much universally hated, as you're too much of an ultra for Marxist-Leninists and you're too much of a tankie for Anarcho-Communists.
DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM--You either like Eugene Debs or you killed Rosa Luxemburg. There's no in between.
HOXHAISM--You are tired of all these bunker jokes, but you're more tired of the terrible internet connection you have from inside your bunker.
LUXEMBURGISM--You either fully appreciate that Luxemburg had an ideology in her own right, or you're wrong and think her entire belief system can be summed up in "I'm not an anarchist and I hate Lenin."
JUCHEIST--You're really into Warhammer 40K, you have a terrible understanding of dialectics, Marxism, and politics in general. You and the Maoist can't stop arguing about quite literally everything.
TITOISM--Everyone seems to have forgotten you exist because you haven't been relevant since 1953. You also happen to be a middle-aged Serbian man.
ANARCHO-SYNDICALISM--You think the Wobblies almost led America to revolution. You either think Big Bill Haywood was the Messiah or you think he betrayed the revolution (the one that was totally going to happen guys). You think Catalonia was the best thing that ever happened and your blog is filled with black and white gifs from the Spanish Civil War. You can't name a single anarchist from that war besides Buenaventura Durruti.
Follow up from Comrade Slaad's post:
EDIT: Oh, and a commie article (well, a thumbnail anyway):
Late to the Aleppo game, but maybe you guys are being too hard on Gary?
Guy Humual wrote:
She's slacking, actually. She was arrested at least three times during the 2012 cycle.
Maybe she's slowing down with age.
Our events this month:
In which we debate the Berniecrats over at Brand New Congress.
In which we finally convinced Maoist-Inclined Independent Red Historian Rival for the Affections of La Principessa (Since Vanquished) to lecture in Lowell.
You can preorder his book, Specters of Communism: Blanqui and Marx here.
(In case I haven't mentioned it before, he took his favorite D&D character's name, "Enaa," as his middle name. As I've had occasion to mention, the Far Left is made up of a bunch of nerds.)
I don't know too much about it, either, just that something like a thousand Native Americans from something like sixty nations across the country have been demonstrating since April (I think), BLM sent a delegation, it's being called the largest Native American demonstration since the showdown with the American Indian Movement in the early seventies, etc., etc.
Based on the responses, I'm guessing the MSM hasn't been covering it, but that will probably change since a judge ordered parts of construction halted earlier today and, according to the headlines, Obama gave a speech about it an hour ago or so.
Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Looks like that ratio held out perfectly.
Finished Chomsky; am up to schedule on Marx and Trotsky; spent last night aimlessly flipping around between Edmund Wilson's To the Finland Station and Perry Anderson's Lineages of the Absolutist State before settling on Flashing Swords! *4: Barbarians and Black Magicians mostly because, having already read the Jack Vance and Michael Moorcock stories, I'm half done before I even began.
I love books like that.
Anyway, tons of black union workers also benefited from "the American Dream" particularly in industries like steel, auto, longshore, etc., etc.
Most of those jobs are gone, too. I wonder why people don't write books about "Angry Black Men" and what's happened to them in the last 40 years and what they've done to "adjust."
Oh yeah, they do.
Hey, I'm feeling kinda woozy here.
(I'm pretty sure I signed a post Hunter S. Anklebiter once.)
(And did he write any novels other than that one Johnny Depp discovered? I thought he was a gonzo journalist not a novelist.)
Aaaand looping back around to my habit of posting links, it seems Trump has now repeated a comment that one of Clinton's mentors was a KKK member.
I liked the "super predator" quip and wondered why no one (that I saw) mentioned his full-page ad in the Daily News antics calling for the death penalty back when the Central Park Five were being tried.
I liked Comrade Fergie's analysis of the Michael Kimmel quote, googled around some, and found a NYT review of Angry White Men saying much the same. Maybe I'll get around to reading it after finishing Undocumented, maybe not, but it still strikes me as a historical irony that the phrase "white skin privilege," invented by Maoists in the mid-'60s to get privileged student radicals to throw in with the Black Panthers and the NLF, came to prominence at a time when, thanks to neoliberal deindustrialization, it is worth less than it ever has in the country's history.
As for anti-vaxx, well, since the last time I posted about it that didn't include Jill Stein, a bunch of my friends went and had kids. Two of them bowed to the will of their headstrong wives and didn't vaccinate. One of them is married to a Rand Paul fan who's holding her nose and voting Trump; the other is married to a raw foods vegan who does, indeed, believe in crystals and recently founded a New Hampshire chapter of Black Lives Matter. I think she's voting for Hillary, but I could be wrong.
I quipped that they should get their kids together and one of the fathers, studying to be an RN, said "I don't think that's such a great idea."
"Then stand up to your crazy wife!" I didn't reply.