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My 150th was Glass River Rescue. Personally, I think its more about it being a table you know you'll enjoy opposed to anything else.
While all of the listed scenarios may be good, make sure your choice is something you have fun running, even if its something youve run a half dozen times already.
With it being 'Year of the Serpent' and all, the Aspis Consortium is bigger and badder than ever. Many people are seeing this as Cobra rising, and the Society is G I Joe (Im making Storm Shadow).
In an effort to make sure that my Joe gets to fight Aspis scum as much as possible, I am looking to compile a list of any scenario in which you deal with Aspis either through combat or social interaction and maybe even scenarios that tie in just for story purposes.
My list so far is under the spoiler tag (dont click it if "There's Aspis people in this scenario" is a big enough spoiler for you to complain about).
If I have missed any scenarios or are wrong about the Aspis involvement, please let me know.
Aspis Scenario List:
00-16 To Scale a Dragon
00-22 Fingerprints of the Fiend
01-29 Devil We Know 1
01-30 Devil We Know 2
01-33 Assault on the Kingdom of the Impossible
01-34 Encounter at the Drowning Stones
01-41 Devil We Know 3
01-48 Devil We Know 4
02-01 Before the Dawn 1
02-02 Before the Dawn 2
03-SP Blood Under Absalom
03-12 Wonders in the Weave 1
03-14 Wonders in the Weave 2
03-19 Icebound Outpost
03-20 Rats of Round Mountain 1
03-22 Rats of Round Mountain 2
03-25 Storming the Diamond Gate
03-26 Portal of the Sacred Rune
04-SP Race for the Runecarved Key
04-06 Green Market
04-07 Severing Ties
04-21 Way of the Kirin
04-23 Rivalry's End
05-12 Destiny of the Sands 1
05-15 Destiny of the Sands 2
05-16 Destiny of the Sands 3
06-09 By Way of Bloodcove
06-12 Scions of the Sky Key 1
06-14 Scions of the Sky Key 2
06-16 Scions of the Sky Key 3
PS. Yes, you are more than welcome to join in on making a Joe of your own to battle the Aspis. If you do so, I suggest working with other people you play with frequently to work out your own joe squad, instead of worrying about the fact that 958 people in the world already built Snake Eyes. :P
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Why do people get upset about traps? Do these same people get upset when monsters try to kill them?
Lately, if Im in the front in a 'you have the higest AC' sort of way, anyone wanting to thoroughly check for traps better be willing to go before me, otherwise I just Take 10 on Perception and if I dont see anything I throw that door open with no regard to my safety.
Of course, if Im trained in DD, I make sure to actually spend some time looking. :P
As far as adjusting the subtier, I would put the 'Uncle' rule into effect, probably.
Basically, they were playing up, but the loss of players adjusts them down. If they want to continue playing up with the newer smaller party, they can. If they complete the scenario that way, they get the rewards they should for the subtier they completed.
At any point between combats, they can collectively call 'Uncle' and switch to low tier, but if they do that, they get the rewards for that tier as if they completed the entire scenario at that subtier.
Not just the secondary either. They very well might have completed the primary by that point.
Totally agreed. Unless they decide to specifically write some language in there to address this (I wouldnt count on it, since its a fringe case), then yea, do whatever the rest of the players want, within the normal bounds of the PFS rules. Have fun!
Jack Amy wrote:
I dont know if there is anything in the Guide against this, but I see nothing wrong with these suggestions.
Thanks for the heads up.
To fix the bottom quote...
PFS RP Guild Guide, p. 21 wrote:
You may not assign a Chronicle sheet earned with a pregenerated character of higher than 1st level to a character that was already at the level of the pregenerated character or higher.
1) To quote from We Be Goblins, Free:
"Those players who have a Chronicle sheet allowing them to play goblin characters in the Pathfinder Society Organized Play campaign may play those characters in We Be Goblins Free! so long as they
Personally, I think this wording should be applied to all 3 of the WBG mods, as obviously the rules on goblins in PFS have changed over the years. So you dont have to be below the level of the goblin pregen to get credit onto the character. You can just play your own goblin as long as they are in range.
2) The intent of the 'newly created" level 1 PC, at the time, was not that the PC hadnt been locked in at 2 yet, since that rule hadnt yet been established. It was exactly what it sounds like, a character with 0 chronicles applied so far.
Edit: Along that same line, I have been making suggestions for the past couple years to try to help make the credit system as easy as possible by making everything the same as much as possible, so if you see any differences in the guide for how someone takes credit for a pregen vs a regular character or as a gm vs as a player, please let me know so I can suggest those changes too.
Sure you can. That's actually what this thread started off being about.
Chess Pwn wrote:
You should reread that post then, cause you obviously didnt see the differences in what I posted between the two main paragraphs.
If you show up with your own level 4 character, one that you have gotten 9 exp on and you built yourself, then no, I wouldnt boot you from the table. If you showed up with a level 4 PREGEN character and stubbornly refused to play anything except that PREGEN character at a table of level 1 characters, YES, I MIGHT boot you.
As far as people wanting to play a level 1 at a table of 5s, Id suggest a level 4 pregen, but aside from that, if they want to take the risk to their character, I wont stop them.
And again (like I said in the other post), there are exceptions to every rule.
"I want to play this character" when I suggest you could play the level 1 version instead (cause I bring pregens with me, too) sounds more like "Cause I want to be the center of attention at the table" than anything else. The rest of the table can live without that.
That said, read my last post. That clarifies it a bit.
No, the 'rule' should not be different for pregens, but the circumstances are different, IMO.
If the player is wanting to play their own level 4 character while everyone else plays level 1, then I dont think anyone could or would hold that against them, presuming they are willing to hold back a bit so the level 4 doesnt absolutely dominate the scenario. This could also be affected by what kind of character they are playing. A level 4 bard playing with a bunch of 1s isnt likely going to impact the scenario that much more than a level 1 bard would anyway.
If the player is wanting to play a level 4 pregen while everyone else is going to play a level 1 character, thats a bit different. I would be asking the player to please play a level 1 pregen and if they refused and dont have a good reason (if they have a character in tier, they could just play that) for needing that level 4 beyond 'I just want to', I think that counts as being a jerk. Seems like the only reason then is that theyd want to stomp the scenario and be the star, both of which the rest of the table can live without.
That said, if you want to play a level 4 and everyone else is cool with it, then I likely wouldnt actually boot you, but Id express my feelings of how poorly the table will go to the other players before asking them their opinions.
Obviously there are going to be exceptions to any rule, so dont take these examples as a hard and fast way to handle it. PFS should be about making sure people have fun. If one person is going to take away from that (which might be the case here, depending on the circumstances), then you might have to ask/tell them to sit this one out.
Chess Pwn wrote:
ChessPwn, you are correct, the GM cannot force you to play a level 1 pregen if you want to play a level 4 in a tier 1-5, even if everyone is playing a level 1 character.
However, the GM also doesnt have to sit you if you refuse to play the level 1 in favor of the level 4. I certainly wouldnt sit you if youre refusing to play the level 1 after I requested it since everyone else is in that tier.
Playing the pregen isnt necessarily the final option or just cause you dont have something in tier with you.
I GMed a table of Severing Ties which had a newer player at the table who was going to play his level 2 Paladin. I explained some very broad basics of the scenario (lots of lying, etc) and told him that depending on what they did, he would very likely need an atonement at the end of the scenario, which would really hamper his character if he could even afford to have it done at that point.
I suggested he might be better off playing a pregen and applying it to a different character. He grabbed the Reiko, the Ninja. I almost sent him back for another one (lol), but he had fun with it, got his credit, and didnt have to atone at the end of it.
I have a question about the quest. Since they are replayable for the players, shouldn't each time a GM runs the quest count as another table credit? I ran the quest for 4 different slots during GenCon but only received table credit for the first.
I could be mistaken, but I dont believe all of the sessions have been reported yet. That aside, yes, you should receive one GM table credit for each 4-hour slot you GMed the Quests during.
If you mean a Quest GM, he was the (2-star) son of Del Collins, 5-star VC from SC. Del can give out his first name if he wants.
I'll admit, I was a bit worried there might be people who had a problem with his age, but I didnt hear any complaints and at least half of the people who he GMed for jumped back in line to play again, so he must have been doing a good job. :)
Jon Cary wrote:
To address the dice further... As soon as someone (I think you, maybe) pointed out to me that we had people with no dice, I 'borrowed' a few sets from the Kids Track area and kept them on the end of the info desk, and once Kristen had finished with the dice and minis inventory at HQ, I had her bring them over for us to use, too. So by Thursday evening, we had about 10 sets of dice to use for people without them, though that probably isnt enough for something like this.
I wont presume I will be doing the same thing next Gencon (if Im able to go), but I will be discussing a few ways to make sure the Quests go even more smoothly than they did this year.
I really like the ruyle cheat sheet idea, too!
Thanks for the feedback!
I didnt play a single game of PFS all weekend long while at Gencon, but I want to give a shout-out anyway.
Im the guy in the orange who mustered the Phantom Phenomena quests for pretty much the whole time, and aside from a few slight hiccups, the GMs assigned to running the quests did an amazing job. We passed out probably 200+ new player numbers over those 4 days, and passed out more than 100 chronicles. It was great to see so many people finish one quest and jump back in line immediately to get to another.
During the Friday night special alone, we sat 21 separate tables worth of players to run through these quests, and thats just from 700-1030 when we stopped seating people.
You gals and guys did a fantastic job and should be proud of the way you showed off the product and got people interested in the game! Not to start a edition war, but we even had one person say they werent going back to 5e after playing through one quest ccause the preparedness and expertise of the GM they sat under with us was so much better than with WotC.
Thanks for making my weekend as enjoyable as it was!
This is only my fourth Gencon, and my third volunteering to help Paizo. The first two years I chose to GM to pay my way, this year, Kristen and I are taking a more behind the scenes kind of role and working HQ.
First off, if you are here and want to say hi or play PFS for free, come see me tomorrow night, Saturday night, or Sunday at the red bannered info desk. I'm mustering the Phantom Phenomena quests almost all con long. I'll be the guy in orange with black hair and glasses.
Gencon,at least at this point, is not about gaming for me. I would love to get to play in the Android Netrunner National Championship, but being here and working for Paizo is definitely worth the effort I put in. That is not to say that the rewards are worth it. I don't take a week off work every year for the rewards. I take a week off work each year to to come here and see friends I haven't seen in too long and meet new friends.
It's only Thursday night and I've already met many people, almost all of who have been a joy to help. Players are having a good time, which means I'm having a good time, even if I'm not participating in a game myself right now.
Thanks to Mike for all he has done for PFS. It definitely would not have been the same without him.
Thanks to Paizo for making this annual trip affordable enough for Kristen and I to attend every year, even if it means we spend most of the con as Paizo-tutes. :p
Thanks to my fellow volunteers for helping me in any way you have.
Thanks to all the cool kids I've met and gotten to hang out with. You guys rock.
And thanks, especially, to my wife, Kristen. I definitely wouldn't have trips as fun as I do without her being here too. If you believe Bob, she's the one who does all the work for PFS for us (that just makes me the pretty face, I guess?)
Everybody have a good con!
Gary Bush wrote:
Please do not see my assistance in offering advice for how to get your suggestion some attention as support for the idea itself. If Mike/Paizo chose to go this route, I wont stomp my feet in protest, but overall, I think its a bad idea, as it opens for more abuse than the current system allows and puts more work on people who are already spending a lot of time dedicated to the campaign.
That said, I do know several of the other VOs who have posted in this thread already. Most of them disagree with you as well, it seems.
Nothing personal, I just dont see this as a necessity.
Edit: After rereading my initial post on the first page, Id like to clarify that I support the idea of finding a way for players to not need to bring all their books, but without the use of the pdfs. What I am not supporting is the idea of a sheet for each character that would need to be signed off on by a GM and/or VO. I like the idea of less paperwork, not more. If some other idea comes up, I might support that, but that would depend on what it was.
Gary Bush wrote:
The main problem with this idea (and I think someone else might have suggested this before) is that VOs arent in all places that players are, and allowing this sort of thing could be seen as unfair to those who dont.
Personally, I do like the idea, but iirc thats why it was shot down last time.
I applaud you, good sir.
I dont know who the organizer of your area is, but around here we keep a relatively up-to-date list of everything everybody has played and GMed for credit. Its in a Dropbox file that is linked on our Facebook page, so everyone has easy access to it. This does a couple things for us:
1. Helps in the scheduling of game days, as we can plan scenarios to do our best to make sure all/most regularly attending people will have something they can play during the day.
2. Gives everyone an easily accessable record of everything played so if they dont remember if theyve played something before its only a few clicks away on their smartphone.
Im not saying its a necessary thing to do, but it has seriously helped the scheduling around here. If you are not the only person having this kind of problem locally, you might want to suggest it to your organizer, though it will take a lot of help from your community, as you dont want to put all the effort of figuring out who played what onto the organizer (if I were in their shoes and someone didnt want to make the effort to put their stuff on it, I wouldnt go out of my way to schedule stuff they can play).
Another option is just talking to your group and/or organizer about what scenarios you would be interested in playing. I started a thread on my groups FB page where people should comment with scenario names they wanted to play. Anybody else who wanted that one shoul Like the comment, so we knew which ones were most popular at the time, so we could schedule things people actively wanted to play at the time.
A third option is to see about having modules or AP chapters being added into the rotation. If you havent played many of those, it can seriously boost the number of options available.
A fourth is to GM more often. If you are currently playing 4 sessions a month and are able to knock that down to 3 (or even 2) by helping out with GMing more often(not knocking the effort youve made so far. youve obviously done at least 30 tables, which is great!), then you will slow your march towards having nothing to play at any given time.
I hope you find some of those helpful, because I strongly oppose mass replay and oppose it being opened up further than what it is, sorry.
I couldnt count on it for events like Gencon, but if you do the multi-table events locally (where the crowd is smaller), you might be able to convince the OverGM and table GMs to go along with it.
I overGMed the Season 2 Special last fall and I allowed (with the table GMs okaying it, too) a cleric at one table to use their turn in combat to fix the blindness of a character at another table.
Might not let things go with Bardic song or Channel and such, but something like that to help with someone's save or suck condition I think is fine.
Edit: I think that same cleric may also have raise dead on someone at another table, too, but I cant remember if that actually happened.
Steven Huffstutler wrote:
Harsk is pretty decent, I'll grant you, but for high level Enora is the best there is.
30-something from Runecarved Key, and at least 1 from a charity auction, was the last count I heard, 2 or 3 of which have not been played, or only recently were created.
The GMs for those tables also received boons later on, so I think the grand total was somewhere around 45.
I know 3 people with them, all of which are still alive (though one has died once). The two that are local are too high of level to play through this one, I believe, though they did get to play them through the other two.
I was thinking that it was able to be run at the convention, but that it couldnt be advertised as the Free RPG Day module except at participating stores.
That said, I could be misremembering what all was decided last year, so before you run it I would definitely check with Brett, since he's your local VC, just in case he remembers it differently.
Hope everyone has a good time!
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Is there something keeping anyone who isnt a VC (such as yourself) from organizing and/or running tables at your local stores, since the VC is busy organizing the convention?
Kristen and I would like to welcome a new member to 'Venture Team' of southern Illinois: Carl Harris.
Carl Harris is a five-star GM who will be serving as Venture Lieutenant for both PFS and PACG and Kristen and I both feel he will do a great job. He's been helping us run our game days since before we got promoted, and is the person who originally got our region jumpstarted in PFS (with lots of help from the VO team from Cape Girardeau, MO).
Congratulations, buddy. You definitely deserve it!