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Maybe its along the lines of not wanting to make the GM upset, since the percentage of the population that runs games rather than just playing is likely relatively small, so scaring off a GM, especially a quality one, is a bigger deal than scaring off a single player. *shrug*
Personally, I dont scare players off by accusing them of cheating. I scare them off by killing PCs.
EDIT: It's also interesting to me that every time a thread comes up about a GM whom a player thinks might have gotten something wrong and the word "cheat" gets mentioned even once, throngs of people jump in with "Whoa whoa whoa, let's not throw around the 'c-word' so lightly!", but when the accused isn't the GM, "cheating" can be the entire focus of the conversation (and even be in the title) and no one bats an eye or cautions anyone against using such a strong word.
It looks like its a double standard, but I think those are entirely different situations.
If the player has foreknowledge of the scenario and abuses it, it's likely going to be at least somewhat obvious. And whatever they do during the game, their actions are all there, layed out on the table for all to see.
With a GM on the other hand, assuming none of the players have foreknowledge, the players have no way of knowing what is by the book and what the GM might have made up on the fly. So they may think something is fishy because of what happened, but cant ever get confirmation on it unless they either read the scenario themselves or ask other people questions about it.
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I agree with Fromper. Unless its something that simply wouldnt work in the given situation, it shouldnt be disallowed.
For example, for Stealth, I use soft shoes or 'pants that dont swish when I walk'. Silly? yes. Any reason for you to keep me from using it? No.
On the other hand, if I said I had a 'Nature Handbook', which gives me +2 to Knowledge: Nature checks, and I want to use it on the Knowledge check at the beginning of a fight cause something jumped out, I would definitely understand if you wanted me to take an action to reference the book before getting the bonus.
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+1 to Sean.
Also keep in mind that unless he has something that lets him do Grapple and Trip in the same turn (qhich is quite possible, but just in case), then this would be a two-turn thing for him to do. A trip can be made in place of a regular attack in your full attack progression. A Grapple is a Standard action, and therefore cannot be used in place of an attack.
Ah, gotcha. That makes more sense than what I said.
Nice ideas kinevon, but nosig is correct, too. Their movement isnt done just cause they are now prone, but if they get inside your reach range, they can stand up without fear of being hit.
Also, and I could be reading this incorrectly, but it looks like kinevon is saying that it is a matter of table variation on if the GM will allow you to use your standard action to stand up. If I am reading that correctly, than that is incorrect, kinevon. It shouldnt be a TV issue, as you can always do another move action instead of a standard, so no GM should be disallowing that at all.
Rizzo Mouser, Ratfolk Magus, here.
I took the Unnatural trait (gives a bonus to AC vs animals, but their attitude starts one step lower for me), and it has come into play every time Ive played him so far, lol.
Kristen also made her Ratfolk character, a Rogue, and made special minis for us. Regular ones for when we are not swarming, and then a pair on a base together for when we are.
Earl Gendron wrote:
Kreighton Shane, Marcus Farabellus, and Aram Zey...are they specifically called out as being VCs anywhere? All I ever remember seeing with their name is the 'Master of...' title. I wouldnt think that would automatically make them VCs, its just a position outside the VCship still within the heirarchy.
Mad, might I ask if you showed up shortly before the game was supposed to start? That tends to be the most frequent time that new players show up, and in situations like that, I cant say I would handle it much differently.
Once the game was done, if the player was interested and time permitting, I would be more than happy to assist the new player in building their own character, but it definitely can be a LONG process.
If you showed up a half hour or so before the game was supposed to start, I dont really know why they couldnt have helped you work on a character then, even if it might not be ready to go in time.
As for building your first character, like others have said, just follow the OP Guide, and you should be fine. One thing to take into consideration if you just arent sure which way to go, is that as long as you havent played the character at level 2 yet, you can completely rebuild the character, so you wont be forced to stick with an option that you think isnt going to work out how you want it to.
Good luck with your character creation!
I may be reading too much into this, but just in case Im not...
Just an FYI, if thats an indication you would kill your companion for a meal cause you feel like having a steak, I would be marking it as an evil action on your chronicle sheet. Do it a second time, and Id mark the character dead for being evil.
These first three posts are the best thing I have read on these boards in awhile.
Go forth, Thunderlips, and show the world the might of your influence!
Cary's Anok wrote:
Maybe the stores could offer 'lay-away' plans worked out with GM's who run at those stores all the time, and the players who WANT to get a good book, to be legal, but cannot plop down $30-40 bucks in a day just to play a game.
This is a good suggestion, but not one that is necessarily right for this conversation. That's something more of a store-by-store basis, and something youd need to discuss with them specifically. Paizo cant force the retailer to offer layaway, though Id imagine some stores would do it.
As the target of the specific casting of Phantasmal Killer in question, let me break down for you how this exchange went.
Seth: I *do something*
Disregarding the fact that she is my wife, she is one of the best GMs I have ever sat under. She does not go out of her way to kill PCs. She just wants to make you work for your victory, which is something all GMs should do.
Preston Hudson wrote:
Looks like the citation from page 38 clarified the ruling for out of tier chronicles to add GM credit as well allowing for the option to apply to a brand new level one character with the gold reduced to 500 for a scenario and 1398 for a module.
Slight correction: the character does not have to be brand new. It just has to be level 1.
Michael Donley wrote:
As Sammy stated and Dylos reiterated, yes, the GM can do this. The GM can do all of the exact same things a player can with their credit now, which was updated, thankfully, with the updated Guide.
Victor Zajic wrote:
Not entirely true. You can also apply it to a level 1 character and get 3xp, 4Fame/PP, 1398gp, and the item access and boons and get all of that right away.
If you apply it to a level 1-2 character and want to wait til 3 to get the full benefits, thats fine also.
I doubt it very much. Getting into the hall on Wednesday to shop is, I think, part of the Gencon VIG program, and people pay good money for that opportunity.
Now if it was a subscription pick up or something, then who knows, but I bet they wouldnt be allowed to sell anything, though it would definitely be nice.
Yes, but thats really just a more limited version of "I cure at them in my made up gibberish language." They dont know what it means. In this case it would actually be comprehend languageable, but the chances of an NPC doing that to you are probably pretty slim.
I cant speak for anyone else, but personally, I wouldnt treat your character knowing English any different than someone who says their character made up their own language or that they are fluent in Pig Latin. Feel free to insist you speak it and run with that background if you want. The most anyone can do is look at you funny en-whay ou-yay alk-tay unny-fay. As long as it isnt providing you with any sort of mechanical benefit, just go for it. ;)
Ladies, Gentlemen, and carbon-based lifeforms of all ages,
You are invited to come join us for a weekend of fun and games at the first annual CarbonCon in Carbondale, IL!
We will be doing Pathfinder Society events all weekend long (7 slots at the con itself, plus a Slot 0 and Midnight Madness), including The Paths We Choose, Legacy of the Stonelords (2014 Gencon special), Bonekeep 3, and more!
Already played the new Gencon scenarios? That's fine, we are also doing the first eight levels of the Emerald Spire superdungeon through the convention. Want a convenient chance to play the other eight? Theyll be run at the first annual Cape Game Con (in Cape Giarardeau, MO) in October! That's right, you'll be able to take a character from level 1 to 13, through all 16 levels of Emerald Spire, in just two weekends of gaming (weekends are NOT back to back)!
Dont want to play PFS all weekend? That's fine, we have lots of other events going on as well, like:
-A cosplay contest (with possible cash prize)
Special Guests and/or Vendors include:
There will be a silent auction running through most of the convention. Bring in items you would like to have auctioned off. $2 entry per item, which will be donated to The Fallen Heroes Fund. You take home the final price of the item.
We will also be doing a canned food drive for the Good Samaritan Food Pantry. Bring in donations to receive tickets for a special raffle!
Interested in getting into the convention for free? Sign up to GM at least 3 events, and get a free weekend pass! (Please let me know you wish to GM, so that I can clear you) But hurry, most of the PFS slots are already filled!
And while you are signing up, dont forget to prepay for your convention T-shirt! S-XL for only $15. 2XL-$20, 3XL-$25
There will be tons of fun and loads of prizes to be had, so make sure to come join us! You can sign up for events* on Warhorn.
Sign up for the Slot 0 and Midnight Madness games for PFS is at this site.
***Slot 0 and Midnight madness games do not count towards the GM 3 to get in free.***
I hope to see you all there!
Do you mean you planned to run a 5-9 and instead had to do a 1-5? Cause otherwise Im confused on what this could mean, sticking within the PFS rules.
Im sorry if this comes off abrasively, as I dont intend it to. Im just confused.
So your current options for gaming are:
And you choose the first? Im sorry, I just dont understand how someone who has been into this scene for 40ish years would rather not play at all instead of playing in a campaign where your options are nearly limitless.
I've learned exponentially more gming than ive ever did playing.
This. This. A thousand times this.
Anytime I have players ask how they can become better at the game, my response is:
If you want to become a better player, GM.
Sitting on only one side of the screen means you miss half the experience!
Edit: And I forgot to say thank you for stepping up, and congrats!
I think this is a fantastic idea, but I would like to make one request.
If you are going to help with Stonelords since you have the PaizoCon/PaizConUK version now, and wont bother updating it with the Gencon version, dont bother doing it at all.
I say this as a GM who ended up using incorrect stats for monsters in last years special, because whoever made the document didnt update it. This surely sounds like Im complaining about the quality of free stuff, but when neveryone is supposed to be playing the same thing, YES, it does matter.
That said, despite that I am only running one scenario during the whole con, and it isnt one of those listed above, I appreciate all the help people give by doing this.
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You might be best off deciding if the tourney is supposed to be a free for all or team matches or 1v1 or whatever first.
Also, you seem to have wandered into the Pathfinder Society Organized Play section of the boards. Youd likely get better answers by posting your question someplace else. :)
Good luck with the game!
Edit: Nevermind, youve got a star, you are probably aware of where you are posting. :P
Your 6 options are correct, and just use your best judgement for counting encounters, keeping in mind, that roleplaying encounters are encounters, too.
When in doubt, ask somsone you trust. :)
One more thing to keep in mind is that a PC only gets the gold for the encounters they do as well, so if the run away from the final encounter, they get no gold for it.
I believe Mike has gone on record stating that a GM character doesnt have to be created til you are actually going to play it, and until then chronicles (including race and the one being mentioned here) can be applied or removed as necessary.
I dont have a link though, and I could be wrong. But Im pretty sure.