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Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Belafon wrote:

Not going to Improve

-Marshalling for the special. The hallway is going to be crowded. Nothing to be done.

Challenge accepted. ;)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Ive had to explain on numerous occasions to one of my younger players that Pathfinder Society =/= police and that he cannot lawfully arrest anyone in any town just cause he is a Pathfinder.

Osirion

If the printer is able to get you some at the show, will it be a significant number, or something like a dozen or two, which will sell out as soon as they come in?

My wife and I had planned on buying a couple, so Im just curious i thats still gonna be possible.

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Im looking forward to showing people why mammoths dare not tread in certain places.

And seeing people.

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Neongelion wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
Neongelion wrote:
SCPRedMage wrote:
Actually, languages are still subject to the same Additional Resources restrictions as any other rules element, and the entry Rasputin Must Die only covers equipment and the oracle mystery, so none of the languages are legal options in PFS.
Well that really sucks. I don't see why it wouldn't it be an option since I'm willingly putting a rank in linguistics to get a language that no one on golarion speaks (some would call that wasting a skill point but bleh), but oh well.
I cant speak for anyone else, but personally, I wouldnt treat your character knowing English any different than someone who says their character made up their own language or that they are fluent in Pig Latin. Feel free to insist you speak it and run with that background if you want. The most anyone can do is look at you funny en-whay ou-yay alk-tay unny-fay. As long as it isnt providing you with any sort of mechanical benefit, just go for it. ;)
The only mechanical benefit I can see with it is being able to loudly curse at people in a completely alien tongue. Of course, then they cast comprehend languages. And then I was in deep trouble.

Yes, but thats really just a more limited version of "I cure at them in my made up gibberish language." They dont know what it means. In this case it would actually be comprehend languageable, but the chances of an NPC doing that to you are probably pretty slim.

:)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Neongelion wrote:
SCPRedMage wrote:
Actually, languages are still subject to the same Additional Resources restrictions as any other rules element, and the entry Rasputin Must Die only covers equipment and the oracle mystery, so none of the languages are legal options in PFS.
Well that really sucks. I don't see why it wouldn't it be an option since I'm willingly putting a rank in linguistics to get a language that no one on golarion speaks (some would call that wasting a skill point but bleh), but oh well.

I cant speak for anyone else, but personally, I wouldnt treat your character knowing English any different than someone who says their character made up their own language or that they are fluent in Pig Latin. Feel free to insist you speak it and run with that background if you want. The most anyone can do is look at you funny en-whay ou-yay alk-tay unny-fay. As long as it isnt providing you with any sort of mechanical benefit, just go for it. ;)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Ladies, Gentlemen, and carbon-based lifeforms of all ages,

You are invited to come join us for a weekend of fun and games at the first annual CarbonCon in Carbondale, IL!

We will be doing Pathfinder Society events all weekend long (7 slots at the con itself, plus a Slot 0 and Midnight Madness), including The Paths We Choose, Legacy of the Stonelords (2014 Gencon special), Bonekeep 3, and more!

Already played the new Gencon scenarios? That's fine, we are also doing the first eight levels of the Emerald Spire superdungeon through the convention. Want a convenient chance to play the other eight? Theyll be run at the first annual Cape Game Con (in Cape Giarardeau, MO) in October! That's right, you'll be able to take a character from level 1 to 13, through all 16 levels of Emerald Spire, in just two weekends of gaming (weekends are NOT back to back)!

Dont want to play PFS all weekend? That's fine, we have lots of other events going on as well, like:

-A cosplay contest (with possible cash prize)
-Pathfinder Adventure Card Game Organized Play
-Magic: The Gathering
-D&D Next (5e)
-Warhammer
-Yu-Gi-Oh
-Star Trek Attack Wing
-Call of Cthulu RPG
-Star Wars X Wing
-Marvel Dice Masters
-Pokemon TCG
-Vampire:The Requiem
-Hearthstone-fireside gathering
-boardgames
-A weekend long Pokemon (videogame) tournament
-Cards Against Humanity tournaments

Special Guests and/or Vendors include:
Troll Lord Games!
Castle Perilous Games and Books!
Fox Comics and Games!
Game Fuzion!
Card Masters Trading Cards and Collectibles!
Capybara Ink!
Sable Manticore!
SIUC Midevil Combat!
Ruthless FX!
Dagorhir!

There will be a silent auction running through most of the convention. Bring in items you would like to have auctioned off. $2 entry per item, which will be donated to The Fallen Heroes Fund. You take home the final price of the item.

We will also be doing a canned food drive for the Good Samaritan Food Pantry. Bring in donations to receive tickets for a special raffle!

Interested in getting into the convention for free? Sign up to GM at least 3 events, and get a free weekend pass! (Please let me know you wish to GM, so that I can clear you) But hurry, most of the PFS slots are already filled!

And while you are signing up, dont forget to prepay for your convention T-shirt! S-XL for only $15. 2XL-$20, 3XL-$25

There will be tons of fun and loads of prizes to be had, so make sure to come join us! You can sign up for events* on Warhorn.

Sign up for the Slot 0 and Midnight Madness games for PFS is at this site.

***Slot 0 and Midnight madness games do not count towards the GM 3 to get in free.***

For more information about the con, visit us at our website or find us on Facebook!

I hope to see you all there!

--
--Seth Gipson--

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Kristen Gipson wrote:
(I couldn't break out of a grapple from Black tentacles.).

This is one of my favorite PFS memories. The 'almost-a-TPK cause no one could break out of the Black Tentacles that was cast from a scroll' encounter. :P

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DrakeRoberts wrote:
James Apostolou wrote:

May take Ten on Job rolls or gains the Improved Day Job feat. (Must Pick One)

Did this change, because I know at one point we were told we could take 10 on job rolls?

Yes, you can Take 10 on a Day Job roll.

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Akerlof wrote:

--It makes organizing harder for the next month.I had to convert a 5-9 last week to a 1-5because too many people wanted to play level 1s. It's going to get worse now because the people who thought they couild just rebuild an existing character will now need to play level 1s as well.

Do you mean you planned to run a 5-9 and instead had to do a 1-5? Cause otherwise Im confused on what this could mean, sticking within the PFS rules.

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pickin_grinnin wrote:

I do have a problem with that, which is why I have decided not to get involved (after locating the local games, talking to the folks that run it, buying the books, etc.).

I just want to play the regular game. I was looking for a way to get involved in playing without having to join a weekly group, since I don't currently have the ability to commit to going to a game at the same time every week (due to work), and the PFS sounded like a great way to do that. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will work out well for me.

Im sorry if this comes off abrasively, as I dont intend it to. Im just confused.

So your current options for gaming are:
1. Not play at all, because of your work schedule.
2. Play PFS periodically, a campaign where the vast majority of things published by Paizo are legal and there are millions of potential character combinations.

And you choose the first? Im sorry, I just dont understand how someone who has been into this scene for 40ish years would rather not play at all instead of playing in a campaign where your options are nearly limitless.

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Duncan7291 wrote:
I've learned exponentially more gming than ive ever did playing.

This. This. A thousand times this.

Anytime I have players ask how they can become better at the game, my response is:

If you want to become a better player, GM.
If you want to become a better GM, play.

Sitting on only one side of the screen means you miss half the experience!

Edit: And I forgot to say thank you for stepping up, and congrats!

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

This is a good use of 2PP. ;)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

I think this is a fantastic idea, but I would like to make one request.

If you are going to help with Stonelords since you have the PaizoCon/PaizConUK version now, and wont bother updating it with the Gencon version, dont bother doing it at all.

I say this as a GM who ended up using incorrect stats for monsters in last years special, because whoever made the document didnt update it. This surely sounds like Im complaining about the quality of free stuff, but when neveryone is supposed to be playing the same thing, YES, it does matter.

That said, despite that I am only running one scenario during the whole con, and it isnt one of those listed above, I appreciate all the help people give by doing this.

Osirion

You might be best off deciding if the tourney is supposed to be a free for all or team matches or 1v1 or whatever first.

Also, you seem to have wandered into the Pathfinder Society Organized Play section of the boards. Youd likely get better answers by posting your question someplace else. :)

Good luck with the game!

Edit: Nevermind, youve got a star, you are probably aware of where you are posting. :P

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Ive got a dozen or so characters, 4 more with numbers and GM credit that I havent built, and about 4 more ideas.

Meh, dont worry about it. :)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Your 6 options are correct, and just use your best judgement for counting encounters, keeping in mind, that roleplaying encounters are encounters, too.

When in doubt, ask somsone you trust. :)

One more thing to keep in mind is that a PC only gets the gold for the encounters they do as well, so if the run away from the final encounter, they get no gold for it.

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I believe Mike has gone on record stating that a GM character doesnt have to be created til you are actually going to play it, and until then chronicles (including race and the one being mentioned here) can be applied or removed as necessary.

I dont have a link though, and I could be wrong. But Im pretty sure.

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Vest of Surgery- 3000gp, chest slot. 1/day, make a DC 20 Heal check to treat deadly wounds, and it heals 1d4 ability damage.

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Cracked Dusy Rose Prism Ioun Stone: 500 gp, +1 Init.

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Alchemist: Formulae Alembic- 200gp item that allows you to heat and then drink a potion, giving you the insight in how to copy it into your formulae book.

Basically, it turns the potion into a scroll for purposes of copying it. Slotless, and definitely worth it. :)

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Since Babau's come up a lot thanks to Season 5, an amusing way to help keep them from killing you (as quickly) if you cant get rid of the Darkness is to put up an Obscuring Mist or similar spell.

It doesnt help you kill them any faster, but since you have 20% concealment when they are adjacent, they cant Sneak Attack you. :)

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Chris Mortika wrote:

My apologies, Seth. I truncated.

No worries. :)

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BigNorseWolf wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Water ball escape plan: Aqueous orb deals 2d6 non lethal damage but gives you cover: which means no attacks of opportunity as you move. You can scoop up unconscious party members, macguffins, and people you're trying to rescue (and yourself) in it. (non lethal damage isn't as lethal as most people think it is: you need to burn off all of someone entire hit point total before you deal real damage to them: not their current hit point total)

Emphasis mine.

Unconscious people would immediately begin to drown. That aside, it is a good use for the spell that I had not considered before.

Unconscious characters must begin making Constitution checks immediately upon being submerged (or upon becoming unconscious if the character was conscious when submerged). Once she fails one of these checks, she immediately drops to –1 (or loses 1 additional hit point, if her total is below –1). On the following round, she drowns.

So you still have 3 rounds to get them out of the waterball, possibly more if they can make a check or two.

Hmmm, I seem to have misread that rule.

Not to be an evil GM or anything, but the RAW on this is stupid. :(

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The Fox wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:
That's one reasonable interpretation of the news, trik. Right after you, Seth articulates another reasonable interpretation, which is stricter: to be grandfathered in, you need to have played an Aasimar or Tiefling.
I don't think that is what Seth said.

I most certainly did not say that.

I said it needs to already BE an aasimar or a tiefling, and that it needs to have agt least 1xp dated prior to August 14th. Aside from that, I dont care where the exp came from.

Now if Mike and John rule it has to be player credit, I'll abide by it until I can get them to change their mind.

:)

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Fromper wrote:
It's ambiguous, because it doesn't mention level 1 rebuilds at all, which are a legal part of the campaign. Not does it mention GM credit or pregen credit characters that haven't been played as their own PC yet.

It doesnt need to mention any of those things. Not mentioning it means there is no special circumstance for it, so you apply the rules as normal. Credit can be used to make a character using any legal stuff you want, as long as you own the source material. Simple.

Fromper wrote:
If someone GMs on August 1, puts the credit on a new PC number, and writes up the character sheet as a tiefling on August 10, but doesn't actually play that character for the first time until August 20, is that a legal tiefling?

Perfectly legal, because the character was created before August 14th.

Fromper wrote:
If it is, then why wouldn't it be if the same exact thing if they first put the character stats (including race) down on paper on August 15? How would anyone know the difference? More important, why should anyone care?

Because as of August 14th, it is no longer legal. Unless that person tells anyone, no, noone is likely to know the difference and many wont care. If the person can live with themselves for not following the rules of the game, then so be it. Cheaters gonna cheat.

Fromper wrote:
Unless campaign staff clarifies otherwise, when I'm GMing, I'll just assume that any character with 1 xp before August 14 is legal to be an aasimar or tiefling. Needing to know or care when and how it became that race just seems like an unnecessary complication, which is why I'm hoping that's how Paizo will tell us to handle it.

And that's your perogative.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Water ball escape plan: Aqueous orb deals 2d6 non lethal damage but gives you cover: which means no attacks of opportunity as you move. You can scoop up unconscious party members, macguffins, and people you're trying to rescue (and yourself) in it. (non lethal damage isn't as lethal as most people think it is: you need to burn off all of someone entire hit point total before you deal real damage to them: not their current hit point total)

Emphasis mine.

Unconscious people would immediately begin to drown. That aside, it is a good use for the spell that I had not considered before.

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Cylyria wrote:
This is what aggravates me more then the perceived OPness of the 2 races. Paizo itself made the ruling on SLA's and put out the books they you to required to own to use the varients of those races, and then they get banned? This kinda seems off to me.

Mike and John did not make the SLA ruling, that was the rules team. The goal for PFS is to change as few things about RAW as possible. Since the rules team made the SLA ruling, PFS has abided by it.

And no official reason has been given (publicly) for why the Aasimar and Tiefling are getting banned, but they were a problem long before the SLA rule change.

Would you want to get blamed for something at work that someone in another department did? Cause thats what you are doing here.

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Sleeves of Many Garments: 200gp for an entire wardrobe? That can end up saving you a bit of gold, though I dunno if its supposed to come with the jewelry for various outfits or not.

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Selter Sago de'Morcaine PFS wrote:

I'm not finding them in the PRD.

The PRD only covers the hardcover books. If you want a really good site for searching for PFS-legal stuff, look at Achives of Nethys. The Open Road symbol next to something means its legal. And the person running it keeps it pretty up to date.

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Fromper wrote:

The wording of the original blog post could already be interpreted that way. It could also be interpreted as meaning that the PC has to already be one of those races before August 14, so disallowing rebuilding into it. That's why we need a ruling from Paizo.

To quote the Blog post itself, specifically, "The exception is any aasimar or tielfing character with at least 1 XP; these characters are grandfathered into the campaign."

The blog post says in very plain English that the character must be an aasimar or tiefling prior to the cut-off date.

Can you please explain how this is so confusing? Cause all it is sounding like to me is that you disagree with how its being worded, so you are declaring it 'too vague to tell' until we get an answer from Mike or John. That isnt likely to happen, IMO, and you may end up hurting yourself and others in the long run cause the first official answer you will likely get is Guide 6.0, which will probably come out only a week or so before Gencon.

Im not trying to keep anyone from playing those races. If youve got a level 1 now that you think you might at some point want to be an aasimar or tiefling, then 'start' the rebuild now. Like I said earlier, a character sheet that has the name, race, and PFS number on it is likely good enough for me, as long as you do that before the cut off date.

How will I know if you did? I wont. Thats the purpose of the honor system. Unless you try to rebuild it in front of me, or dont have a chronicle dated before August 14, I'll let you play it. :)

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Doctor Castor wrote:

I even had a nice

** spoiler omitted **
for it.

Get out.

:P

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

Thats perfectly fine.

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The notion is coming from a desire to make sure the person didnt change after the cut off, which is reasonable.In the case of how the blog was worded, though, I agree that it is unnecessary.

If Mike and John were goign to require that kind of thing, they could have just as easily made the cap 4xp, to make sure the character is locked in on its race.

They didnt do it, and unless the Guide says something else about it indicating that IS going to be the case, no other restriction should be put on the player. If they say it was an aasimar or tiefling before the date and have at least 1xp chronicle dated before the date, you should take their word for it. That's how the honor system works.

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Chris Mortika wrote:

The Fox: That won't work at my table, no.

--

Seth, the difference is that GM credit can be held on an unformed blob of PC, while player credit cannot. If someone plays before August 14th, she has indicated what race the character is. If someone runs a game, he hasn't necessarily done so.

So, let's say it's July, and your wife plays a human rogue for two sessions. You've GMed both of those sessions. Away from the table, she then rebuilds the character as a Tiefling, but doesn't play again until September. You also assign that GM credit to a PC you haven't yet played, but which you're imagining is either going to be a half-orc or a Tiefling.

August comes and goes. In September, which of you can start playing a Tiefling without a race boon?

I think the rule should require one player-XP to set the character as the chosen plane-touched race before the August 14th deadline.

That seems perfectly reasonable to me, though I dont know if that is how Mike or John are going to work it into the Guide. :/

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The Fox wrote:

Okay, I will use this post to declare that my -8 is now an aasimar and my -9 is now a tiefling. The time stamp at the top of this post should suffice.

I assume that I can use the rebuild rules to change class, abilities, feats, skills, and equipment still without need a racial boon, right?

Corrrect!

You may want to print that post out, though, so you have it handy if questioned. :)

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TriOmegaZero wrote:
The Fox wrote:
So if I declare one of those characters to be an aasimar and another to be a tiefling right now, I should be good later?
Yes, but it looks like for some GMs you may want to print a timestamped character sheet to prove it to them.

Yes, you should be fine, though TOZ' suggestion might not be a bad one.

If nothing else, I would definitely have something written down onto the character sheet, though how much it takes to qualify as having 'made' the character is likely a table variance issue, unfortunately.

Personally, Id be fine as long as you had the race, character name, and number on it. Others might want the whole thing fleshed out. :/

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The Fox wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
The Fox wrote:
John Compton and Mike Brock wrote:
The exception is any aasimar or tielfing character with at least 1 XP; these characters are grandfathered into the campaign.

So are we to read this as

Quote:
The exception is any aasimar or tielfing character with at least 1 XP of player credit; these characters are grandfathered into the campaign.
No. You can use GM credit. :)

We are getting mixed messages here from various VOs and 4-star GMs.

I have a couple of characters that are only GM credits at this point, no plays on them whatsoever. I also have a character that only has pregen chronicles. It is unlikely that I will play them before Aug. 14. Which, if any can I build into tieflings and aasimars?

Before August 14th, any of them.

After August 14th, none of them.

After that date, they will not be legal to use unless with a race boon, so unless you have already made the character* before that point, you wont be able to choose them.

Unless there is something I have missed, there should not be any difference in how this is handled for GM credit to player credit on an actual character to player credit earned on a pregen. :)

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The Fox wrote:
John Compton and Mike Brock wrote:
The exception is any aasimar or tielfing character with at least 1 XP; these characters are grandfathered into the campaign.

So are we to read this as

Quote:
The exception is any aasimar or tielfing character with at least 1 XP of player credit; these characters are grandfathered into the campaign.

No. You can use GM credit. :)

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Fromper wrote:
No, it's not common sense. It depends on the exact wording of the grandfathering rule, which we haven't seen yet. The quick summary of changes presented in the blog post didn't specify how rebuilding rules would apply.

Youve already seen the grandfathering rule. They said any Aasimar or tiefling with 1xp or more before August 14th will be grandfathered into the campaign.

That said, you are welcome to believe what you want, but please dont go around telling other people there is no reason for them to be posting, and that we are merely guessing at the answer. Preston and I have both posted an answer. You have nothing to show that can counteract it, so by trying to discredit us, you only make the situation worse.

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N+1)Bring your own method of healing.

N= last number used, whatever it would be.

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Fromper wrote:

My point is that pointless speculation is pointless. This thread should be the initial questions, followed by a response from Paizo. I have no idea why the rest of you even bothered to post, yet I suspect we'll see another 3 pages of pointless speculation, unless Mike or John comes along to give us the official answer quickly.

And ironically, the first two posts after Jiggy's are people giving a definite answer as if they know for sure. Unless the secret VO forum has an answer that hasn't been shared with the rest of us (and why would they hide that information?), Seth and Preston are just guessing, too.

The point of posting is that there is no need for an official response from Mike or John. As of August 14th, those options will no longer be legal for play without a boon. So you will no longer be able to retrain into them. It would be no different if you tried to retrain into a class or archetype that got removed.

No, we are not just guessing. Its common sense.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

The table doesn't ignore me when i talk to it.

FIND GARY BUCCI

I loathe that commercial.

15. Dont interrupt another table to ask someone else's opinion on a rule, cause you dont like how your own GM is handling something.

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As Preston said, after the deadline, questions 4 and 5 are a no. The races will no longer be legal as open access, so unles you have a boon, you wouldnt be able to change to it.

As for the others...
1. yes
2. probably? I cant see why not.
3. yes

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Kyle Baird wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
I am furious.
focus?

Rage?

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kinevon wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
I have a demon-spawn Ninja/Paladin. He's lots of fun to play, and the guy you actually WANT at the front of the party. Quiet, tough, good perception, and can actually disable the traps he comes across.
Unless there is something I am missing, your Ninja/Paladin still cannot disable magical traps, other than by faceplanting...

True enough. That's where the HP comes in. ;)

Actually, Im particularly fond of the character concept, cause he's a guy who definitely knows how to unlock that door for you so you can sneak in and steal what needs stolen, but wont do it, cause that would be morally and legally wrong. :P

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UndeadMitch wrote:

You know what I really like about this decision that hasn't been mentioned?

How many years has it been since the Lantern Lodge was founded in Tien Xia? Three years, give or take.

How long does it normally take Pathfinders to graduate from training to field work? Three years, give or take.

We had the group of field commissioned Kitsunes, Nagaji, and Wayangs (Triple-Race Boon) and now we're getting a wave of recruits fresh out of training from the Lantern Lodge in Tien Xia.

I wonder if that was intentional?

>.>

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pH unbalanced wrote:
Fromper wrote:
Imbicatus wrote:
Mark Stratton wrote:


How do you calculate that you lost 18 play options?
I'm guessing the variant heritages of Aasimar and Tiefling. Qlippoth-spawn vs Oni-Spawn and soforth.
I disagree. Default and oni-spawn are the only tieflings that ever actually got any play, so the other 7 don't count.
Demon-spawn is awfully good for Battle Oracles and Paladins -- I've seen a fair number of them.

I have a demon-spawn Ninja/Paladin. He's lots of fun to play, and the guy you actually WANT at the front of the party. Quiet, tough, good perception, and can actually disable the traps he comes across.

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Jeff Merola wrote:
Seth Gipson wrote:
My apologies for not having read all 150+ posts in the thread before posting. :P

Apology accepted :P

And I apologize for accusing you of misrepresentation.

Accepted. It happens.

Osirion ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Illinois—Carbondale aka Disturbed1

BigNorseWolf wrote:
Jeff Merola wrote:
Wow, that's some impressive misrepresentation of my position in this thread. I'm saying that I'm of the opinion that they shouldn't be removed from the list of standard legal races to begin with.
Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to the fog of internet conversation.

This, more or less.

The first sentence really was in jest. The rest was honest inquiry.

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