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That is assuming you agreed with the 'at will' being too powerful. I certainly didnt, and my group has houseruled some of it back (such as sorceror claws).

That is another discussion entirely, and one I agree with. And if this is a houserule at your game, my thought no longer holds any water.

Anything a PC sells with a value under 4000g is sold. with ttl value of 4000g = 1BP

City items sell on an Economy check:

RAW wrote:

To sell these items, make an Economy check (DC 20 for minor items, DC 35 for moderate items, and DC 50 for major items). A failed check indicates the item doesn’t sell. Success indicates that the item sells and you can increase your kingdom’s treasury by 2 BP (for minor items), 8 BP (for moderate items), or 15 BP (for major items). You can make one Economy check per city district during each Income phase.

As a minor item the potion mentioned would give you 2BP

I am familiar with that passage, but you are leaving off the sentence directly before it, the one "these items" refers to:

You can attempt to sell items that cost more than 4000 gp through your city's markets to bolster your kingdoms Treasury; these can be items you recover during an adventure or they can be magic items currently held by any of your cities.

You will see that, as written, the only items that can be sold cost more than 4000 gps.

((Also note, the potion can be rolled up as a major item.))

I had a semi random thought. Note, I read through Book of Nine Swords once, and never liked the feel of it, so my understanding of it is limited.

If stances allow a constant ability, such as the Crusader getting to heal every time they hit, Book of Nine Swords might be too powerful for Pathfinder.

Stop frothing, and hear me out.

In the Beta, the spellcasters had many "at will" abilities. These were considered "broken"/too good/etc. and were reduced to 3 + relevant attribute modifier times per day. (Even the speak with animals ability was reduced to a number of rounds equal to 3 + Cleric level. Spurn Death, for the Healing domain, can only be used a number of times per day equal to 3 + Wisdom modifier. And that is a d4 + (1/2)Cleric level per use, and can only be used on someone with negative hit points.)

There are a few "at-wills" left, but they are almost always information gathering abilities.

With that design philosophy, maybe the Book of Nine Swords is a bit too powerful for Pathfinder.

Disenchanter wrote:

2) Was the Tenement supposed to act as a house?

Yes. Tenements act as houses for the purposes of fufilling the requirement; they're basically a good way to build cheap houses since the unrest only hits you on the turn you build the house.

Okay. It makes sense now. Just note that it isn't written anywhere that a Tenement acts as a House for building prerequisites.

Disenchanter wrote:

3) From the way it is written, it looks like magic items that cost 4000 gp or less can not be sold. Is this the intent?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here...

If you're wondering about buying cheaper magic items, remember that all cities have a base value and that cheap magic items can be bought if they're under this base value without having to roll them up. If you're talking about PCs selling unwanted items, they can always sell items to a city for gold; this doesn't affect your city's Economy since you're only doing this to sell off items for your PCs.

Or I might still be confused by the question...

Okay, let me try this one again.

If you have a magic item slot open, and roll a 3rd level potion for the random item. It is worth 750 gp. In the Income Phase, it says that items that cost greater than 4000 gp can be attempted to be sold off.

As written, there isn't anything to cover selling items of a lesser value - other than the PCs buying it up to open the slot.

1) Why is the Tenement an option?

I get that not all options have to be optimal. That isn't what I am getting at. What I mean is, all it does is make the city worse. It doesn't even make sense to use it to "upgrade" to a House since the upgrade ends up costing you the same amount over all.

2) Was the Tenement supposed to act as a house?

3) From the way it is written, it looks like magic items that cost 4000 gp or less can not be sold. Is this the intent?

noretoc wrote:

I agree with Beckett, from experience playing a crusader. The Bo9S is a bit to powerful for pathfinder. I would use it with caution, especially the crusader.

This always confuses me, since crusader is the least damaging of the three.

Like ok, you think ToB is powerful. You're wrong, but alright. But then you say Crusader is the worst part, and my brain just starts to glaze over a bit.

Hmmm....

I don't see anything about the Crusader being the worst part.

I see Book of Nine Swords is a bit too powerful for Pathfinder.

And I see that this is from experience with the Crusader.

If anything, this reinforces that the rest of the book is too powerful, if the Crusade is the least troublesome class.

But I've been told I don't have a grasp of the language... So maybe I'm missing something.

Here's what's grating on me, and causing friction with players:

1) Let it go. Unless the player is actively ruining the other players (including GM) fun, let them be.

Each person can enjoy different things about the game. Hack 'n' slashers can play with rpers, if they can be respectful enough of the others time in the game.

The player doesn't have to play the game the same way as the rest of you.

2) This is more problematic. If this character alone is getting a reputation of being problematic, have any future NPCs refuse to interact with the group while this character is around. (This might backfire if it is a player problem bubbling to the surface, rather than a character problem.)

3) Let the campaign sit. If the group won't let NPCs interact with them, leave it all up to the group to continue. When they can't get any further without help they should become more welcoming of NPCs. (Again, this could very well backfire if it is player problems, and not character problems.)

4) I understand your point of view. But you might consider letting the players roll. If that is what they are looking to do, maybe that is the way it should be done. Either that, or roll a bunch of times before the game, and go down the list as needed. This hides the fact you are making rolls for them and just proceed on.

5) While you went through a lot of work, you might have gone through too much work. If the effort of achieving ones plans out ways the perceived reward of completing the plans, it is more like a punishment than a reward. (Also, I've found the more work the GM goes through for something, the less likely they are to budge on the thing. So in your example, I would know - if I was aware of the work you went through - there would be no getting around the "fun tax" of all your taxes, and probably would have told you "nevermind" from the start. Nothing personal, and no insult meant. Just trying to illustrate what might be going through the players minds.)

6) I got nothing for you. Not only have I not tried online gaming (yet), the groups I have played in have those very same problems in person.

7) This tells me you are a source of the groups problems. Note, I didn't say the source. As I noted under 5) (I've been replying as I read, so I didn't know this was coming), I've seen this kind of thing before. I'm not mocking it, or even trying to belittle it. Just when I, as a player, find GMs that fall into the the mindset of "I worked damn hard on this, and we are going through it" mentality I feel it is time to move on. On this path lies railroading. Some people (like myself) can't play under this style of GMing. Maybe your players are reaching that point.

After all that, if you haven't figured out on your own, a group chat is in order. Everyone needs to know what is expected of them from others, and the group needs to decide if it is worth trying to keep the game alive.

I wish you luck, because I have yet to see a group recover from this stage.

In other words, if you pull it off let me know how! ;-)

there are quite a few of those sheets on the wotc site, they have maintained all the archives. they dont have them for the core books though.

there is a pathfinder sheet on drive through prg that is supposed to be pretty nice. its from lpj

(i dont know how to do the linky things):

Linkyfied for you

Kingmaker Kingdom Sheet

Just to inform people, it is a FileFactory link.

To download/view the file you have to scroll all the way to the bottom, and just above the "Share" button you will see two image buttons, the one on the right says "DOWNLOAD NOW with FileFactory Basic."

Click on that and wait the 30 seconds or so, then when it reloads and tells you it is ready, scroll all the way to the bottom again and this time the link text on the left reads "Download with FileFactory Basic."

Click on that to download/open the file.

All other links/images with the word Download in them are ads/links to other websites.

"The irrationality of a thing is not an argument against its existence, rather, a condition of it."
– Friedrich Nietzsche

"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses. It is an idea that possesses the mind."
– Robert Oxton Bolton

"It is better to be violent if there is violence in our hearts than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence."
– Mahatma Gandhi

"There are some that only employ words for the purpose of disguising their thoughts."
– Voltaire

"We are so accustomed to disguise ourselves to others, that in the end, we become disguised to ourselves."
– Francois de la Rochefoucauld

"Nothing is easier than to denounce the evil doer; Nothing more difficult than understanding him."
– Fyodor Dostoevsky

"No man or woman who tries to pursue an ideal in his or her own way is without enemies."
– Daisy Bates

"I know indeed what evil I intend to do, but stronger than all my afterthoughts is my fury...fury that brings upon mortals the greatest evils."
– Euripides

"No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities."
– Christian Nestell Bovee

"To follow by faith alone is to follow blindly."
– Benjamin Franklin

"Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it."
– Ayn Rand

"A fool's paradise is a wise man's hell."
– Thomas Fuller

"Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles..."
– Mark Twain

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."
– H.L. Mencken

"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible."
– Stuart Chase

"Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit, because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure."
– Tacitus

"Many persons have a wrong idea of what constitutes true happiness. It is not attained through self-gratification, but through fidelity to a worthy purpose."
– Helen Keller

Debating how to stop online piracy

I tried to read the joint submission linked in that article... But I couldn't get through Part I. It was too painful.

If only I had known online movie piracy would take my job at the manufacturing plant... Yeah, sure... We were building diesel train engine parts... But the creative community organizations have "proof" that movie piracy cost America jobs outside of the copyright holder businesses... I mean yeah... Had I actually committed online movie piracy, I could have saved myself $12 a piece for those movies that really should never have been released... But had others paid for them instead, I would have gotten a raise and everything!

And for those with faulty sarcasm meters, the previous paragraph was nearly all sarcasm. Everything besides losing my job (no sympathies, please) and being able to save $12 on crap like AVP: Requiem. (I think they named it that since it marked the end of the franchise...)

Though I have only seen a few replies that mention the actual differences, it sounds like they would be enough of a difference to warrant the expense 9yes, that's sarcasm. $10 is hardly expensive. ;-) )

Thanks, all. I will buy the PDF. :-)

Yes, the "expense" is needed.

Some threads that might help you notice those changes:

Biggest change so far, "what is it"?

Things you might have missed.

There are lots of little things, as well as a quite a few big things, that have changed.

Disenchanter wrote:

"James Jacobs said so" is valid enough (Even if based on questionable logic - Profession requires civilization, where literacy is usually a marker for civilization). "What I see as a 'berserker,' or 'rager,' doesn't hold up" doesn't work. Even if it is based on what we are told of human history.

Incas did not have a formal writing system, and were certainly civilized. Khazaks did have a formal system, but would be considered steppe barbarians for centuries.

Literacy =/= civilization.

I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise.

That is why I used "usually a marker." Just as language is usually a marker for sentience, but isn't universally excepted.

Google reportedly opening VP8 codec. If this becomes open source, web sites can release video that isn't in (royalty required) mpeg-2 or h.264 codecs.

Blu Ray to release 128GB disc format. This format will not be compatible with current players, but isn't necessarily to become the new standard anytime soon.

If you'll look back, you'll see that I wasn't the one who focused on Toril and Golarian. Disenchanter did. I just said, "if you want to play that game..".

And if you look back at what I, and Brian E. Harris continued with, was saying you will see that we pointing out that you have no basis for claiming the themes do not uphold Profession as a class skill when the games are played on fictional worlds that do not have to conform to your understanding of our own history.

"James Jacobs said so" is valid enough (Even if based on questionable logic - Profession requires civilization, where literacy is usually a marker for civilization). "What I see as a 'berserker,' or 'rager,' doesn't hold up" doesn't work. Even if it is based on what we are told of human history.

in this example

Warhammer: 12gp
Masterwork: 300gp
+1 enhancement and flaming quality = +2 equivalent: 8,000gp
Total: 8,312 gp

Would this be market price, to buy the weapon or the cost to create

To answer your question directly:

The market price.

Block internet access during the game, possibly with an exception for the PRD site - 90% of distraction problems solved at a stroke.

It isn't as easy as brock makes it sound.

That doesn't mean it is difficult... Just you have to do a little research before hand with your router to figure out how to do it.

For example, on my D-Link DGL-4300, under the Advanced section under the Web Filter tab, you can enter a list of Allowed Web Sites (examples: PRD, and Pandora) and when you enable the feature only those sites will be allowed, and all others will be blocked.

But, each router is different - and some might not have the feature built into the interface. (And for those, I'd recommend looking into dd-wrt, openwrt, or tomato firmware.)

Are the stats for the war razor correct? (Mainly the crit threat range.)

If so, it becomes a four times more expensive dagger, without range or multiple damage types.

Of all the arguments you could have made to support your position, I have no idea why you chose one that is so easy to knock down.

What is my position?

I mean other than neither side can agree to the common ground to work with? And that the best "official" reason is based on feelings of the class, and no particular mechanical or fluff reason?

Disenchanter wrote:

Some think the classes should simply be a group of thematic mechanics

Notice the key word there - "thematic"? It's very important. The Barbarian class isn't just a random assortment of character abilities, it has a theme.

And that theme (whether it is a raging primal fury or a special type of warrior from a simple society) does not support a profession.

And you know this by studying life on Golarion? Or maybe you spoke to someone who lived on Golarion?

Or how about Toril?

Or any other fictional world that doesn't have to conform to your understanding of what our history is?

So the ball is in the other court.

Which ball, and what court?

As Laurefindel aptly summed up near the end of the previous page, people have different ideas of what the Profession skill covers, and what classes are supposed to represent.

For some, the Professions skill is just an abstract rule to represent a way for a character to make a living that isn't covered by Craft, or Perform. For others, it represents the ability for the character to handle itself in a professional, businesslike manner (and a more modernized version at that).

Some think the classes should simply be a group of thematic mechanics that a group can incorporate into their game any way they see fit, and others think the classes should be based around some theme/fluff ideal and that the mechanics should reflect that.

Given that Pathfinder removes the illiteracy "ability" of Barbarians, and other changes that stray from old themes/fluff, it can be easily believed that classes and skills should be seen strictly as mechanics. (I'm not trying to pass this off as the correct way. Just pointing out it is easy to see why people can think that way.)

But then in this thread, James Jacobs stated it "felt right" (semi-paraphrased) to leave the Profession skill off the Barbarian class skill list.

And that could very well be why this thread has gone on so long.

The biggest obstacle for this would be to come to a consensus of what size the containers are, and just how big each item is.

Currently, container capacities are in cubic feet/inches (if it can be found at all) and items are in pounds (with many weights "upped" to represent "encumbrance").

You want the fight to be memorable?

Forbiddance plus Symbol of Persuasion plus Wind Wall plus Silence.

If laid out correctly, depending on terrain, the fight can be staged where the party enters the silence area (negating most magic) while the Cleric is protected by Wind Wall (reducing many ranged attacks) forcing the party to close - into range of the Symbol of Persuasion.

That should be pretty memorable, one way or another.

It has been asked before, frequently enough that some might come of as a bit snarky in reply. So bear with us.

If you are using a Windows operating system, you can install version 8 of Adobe Acrobat Reader, not 9. If memory serves, you can then right click on the image to extract it and the copy you get won't have text.

If you are using Ubuntu, the pre-installed Document Viewer can already do this with a right click > save as.

I'm not certain about Mac.

Well, there is already purple with silver numbering, so purple with gold might not be the most likely choice.

And given we are still waiting for the Legacy of Fire set, and there is still Council of Thieves after that (if the AP order is kept)...

Hobbun wrote:

So what printing is the book on now? I just ordered mine this week and should be receiving it tomorrow. And is there any errata updates in the current books being sold now, or is it still too early?

Depending on the vedor's stock, it should be either first or second print.

If you ordered through Paizo, it should be the second printing.

If you end up with the first printing, you can always download the errata. This should also be updated when the third printing is done... But I don't want to make promises for Paizo.

More Specifically, are they NPC classed or Hero classed? And what would be the best way to switch between the two?

I can tell you that 3.0 was worded as "followers can be warriors, experts, or commoners," and 3.5 removed that wording. As far as I know, Pathfinder hasn't added any specific restrictions.

Some believe the change (3.0 to 3.5) was done to allow Hero classes, but your millage can vary greatly depending on who you ask.

As for switching classes, just do it. If the abilities shift too far, such as a warrior becoming a sorcerer (unlikely, I know - but bear with me), add the changes gradually and play up the character picking up tips and lessons from player characters. This works very well if there are characters of the same class in the group.

Disenchanter wrote:

Surfacescapes, a student academic group, plays D&D on a Microsoft Surface (Silverlight requested)

At at only $12,500 for the commercial unit and $15,000 for the developer's unit it's really affordable.......or not.....

But more portable, and potentially more useful, than The Sultan gaming table.

((I also can't find their pricing scheme anymore... If my memory serves, a Sultan for a "typical" group would be about the same cost as the Surface.))

Apple continues to prod Adobe.

Apple changed the iPhone OS sdk to bar any application that accesses APIs through any sort of translating intermediary layer, just days before Adobe was to release Packager for iPhone.

Rumor has it, this will spark a lawsuit.

((Not to mention what it may mean for other app makers...))

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Barbarians can't hold down a job because of their anger management issues. Their tribe, culture, and all that other stuff isn't really of consequence.

You can't have someone smashing up your store whenever a customer cops an attitude.

I noticed your note you are joking, but this is the best post to springboard off of.

Sure you can.

You can't tell me these guys make a living off of craft, perform, or survival can you?

And I find it hard to believe that the Pumphreys are a modern phenomenon only.

Yeah sorry about the links, my bad.

No need to apologize. You didn't do anything wrong. If you haven't noticed yet, if someone posts a url that isn't linked, someone usually makes it a link for others.

My post wasn't meant as a commentary to you.

Low Fantasy Setting for Pathfinder with a variant class system (single customizable class)

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Character Class Analysis (basic chicken-scratch notes used for the low fantasy setting)
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Exposition, Narrative, Insane Clowns, and Daggers You Really Want:
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Home-brewed extra from a campaign I never got the group together to run (scheduling stuff):
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A weird alternative to spell casting:
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But yeah, the orc double axe, the double flail, and even the double sword are a stretch.

Not as much of a stretch as some might think. Currently (possibly to change with the Adventurer's Armory) the closest thing to a three section staff (mind volume, not a great video) is the dire flail. I have a feeling that there have been more examples of double weapons in fiction, film and video games before Phantom Menace... But I can't think of where right now.

Energizer battery charger contains backdoor

I take it that it is safe to assume that you and your DM are using some version of Windows?

If so, it won't help you to know that Document Viewer in Ubuntu (a Linux distribution) doesn't have a problem pulling the map without any markers on it, except the compass rose.

In case this information helps others, right click the map and select save as.

If anyone is absolutely desperate, than can make an Ubuntu Live CD to boot off of, and then extract the images you want... But that is really too much to go through for something like this.

I think we have different definitions for "bland". I consider "bland" to be quite a negative quality. And I wouldn't consider the iPad bland in the least bit.

I see. I didn't mean bland negatively. It neither is "extra spicy" (everyone should try it) or "horrible tasting" (everyone should probably avoid it). It is just, bland. In the middle.

Disenchanter wrote:

Eh, there might be a time when the roles are reversed. I'm eagerly waiting for the real life equivalent to Shadowrun-esque cranial cyberdecks and vehicle control gear. I'll become an instant fanboi (maybe even squeal like a schoolgirl) of whatever company produces those.

Case in point. I couldn't care for any of that. But then I'm almost at the age where sitting on my front stoop and yelling at the neighbour kids to get off my lawn is going to become mandatory. So I may just be a little too set in my ways. :)

Greg

Oh, I am quite aware it wouldn't be for everyone. I had no plans to try spreading my excitement for those things. ;-) And I certainly would go into it knowing they are very much a bad idea in their early generations.

You seem to be attempting moderation and rationality here, and are ascribing reasonable behaviors to people. I'm not sure they allow your kind on the Internet. You might want to consider adding some words like "r0xx0rs" or "suxx0rs" to your post before they come to kick off the net.

Or, more importantly, we don't want to end up like planet Miranda (from Serenity/Firefly). Keep passions up, lest we die out.

It will still be a few years before the technology is robust enough in mobile computing devices to handle Paizo PDFs in their current state, Mok.

Paizo PDFs are just too image heavy.

Well said Ken!

<snip>

Please stop trying to just pick fights for no reason.

Please?

It amazes me how the community here works. You see a lion in a grumbly and foul mood. You stab at it with pointy sticks. And the whole time tell the lion how wrong it is for lashing out at the people stabbing it with pointy sticks.

Kray-zee.

As a side note to Steve Jobs killing someones dog. A good friend of mine has a wife who is an Apple MILITANT (I got beaned in the face with a dinner roll for suggesting that a certain Apple product was not as good as it was being made out to be, one evening while at dinner with them). Several of years ago we had to tote here new ginormous extra big i-makewebpages Apple monitor into her new home office (which 4-5 years ago was remarkably hard to find locally. things sure have changed.) A couple of days after it was installed she moved it back to the back left corner of her desk and I am not sure if the desk tipped (it was one of those glass topped desks mounted to the rest of the desk with suction cups) or if she hooked one of the feet of the thing over the edge, but about an hour later the monitor took a swan dive off of the side of the desk and did in fact kill her cat (the cathode ray tube imploded on impact with the cat and the floor). The funny part was I think she was more upset about loosing the monitor than she was about the cat. But I still laugh when I hear arguments about Steve Jobs or Bill Gates killing someones dog. I guess cat death does not incite quite the same reaction.

love,

malkav

That is just too funny! I don't care if you just made it up, that is hilarious.

Disenchanter wrote:

GregH wrote:

Basically what I'm coming away with all the reviews is that there is no killer feature that will insist that everyone gets it, and there is no major set back which will deter everyone from getting it.

I'm glad you said it first. ;-)

I've been getting a similar vibe. A vibe that if you stripped away the Apple brand, it would be a really bland device. And that if anyone else had produced it, it probably wouldn't do half as good.

Well, that's not quite what I said, but given our respective filters, that's probably as close to agreement as we'll get. :)

Oh? I honestly don't see the difference in the statements... But you guessed that. I'd like to discuss it further, but this likely isn't the thread for it.

I don't agree with your assessment that the iPad signals a new fork in the traditional computer evolutionary line... But it certainly is the best announced fork.

Eh, there might be a time when the roles are reversed. I'm eagerly waiting for the real life equivalent to Shadowrun-esque cranial cyberdecks and vehicle control gear. I'll become an instant fanboi (maybe even squeal like a schoolgirl) of whatever company produces those.

As for open versions of apps/software/etc., I have been thinking about that a lot since I'm toying with some ideas. One avenue might be instead of downloadable apps, going with mobile-friendly web applications. That would probably be the best bang for the buck if someone wanted to hit as wide of an audience as possible, hardware-wise.

I would agree since from what I have been reading about the iPhone OS 4 event, Apple flat out refuses to allow Java to work on the iPad (and I am assuming other Apple mobile products by extension) and that is the "goto source" for platform independent apps.

Basically what I'm coming away with all the reviews is that there is no killer feature that will insist that everyone gets it, and there is no major set back which will deter everyone from getting it.

I'm glad you said it first. ;-)

I've been getting a similar vibe. A vibe that if you stripped away the Apple brand, it would be a really bland device. And that if anyone else had produced it, it probably wouldn't do half as good.

The only consistent thing I have seen is that a consumer shouldn't waste their money on the case, even though the iPad really needs a case...

Tekzilla iPad review.

Note: This episode is recorded before the iPhone OS 4 event.

I don't have to worry about viruses because every app is controlled by the app store.

Careful thinking this way.

If the iPhone OS ever becomes a major target (read: big market share) you will have to worry about viruses, and the app store controlling apps only makes it somewhat more difficult for virus writers.

There are many other vectors for delivering malicious code.

Marc Radle 81 wrote:

Cartigan wrote:

Marc Radle 81 wrote:

Here is a review of the iPad by USA Today:

iPad USA Today

There shall be no referencing iPad reviews for 6 months. Right now it's a huge tech journal writer circle jerk with the famous John Dvorak declaring it a "success where Microsoft failed" MONTHS BEFORE MICROSOFT'S DEVICE COMES OUT. If I read one more bloody iPad ass kissing story...

Wow ...

Additionally, all the hero worship puts aside any and all glaring problems with the device so using the current "reviews" as actual reviews is counter productive.

This article might make you feel a bit better.

Surfacescapes, a student academic group, plays D&D on a Microsoft Surface (Silverlight requested)

But wait for tomorrow... (now watch me be wrong :-)

No, you are right. The event is talking about a limited form of multitasking. Limited as in only certain services can be run in the background, not as in certain apps.

It looks as if the new iPhone OS will come pretty darn close to what most people want.

All Apple has to do now is lead the charge on innovating wireless security to prevent blindingly simple man-in-the-middle attacks, and the future of portable computing would look bright.

For those that have used iPod touches and iPhones, this has always been known. You've always been able to listen to your music and run other apps at the same time (if the 3rd party app allows <- i.e. not Apple's choice, some apps disable the music playback.)

Perhaps, but I listed it because I wasn't aware of the iTunes multitasking ability, and it coming from a "known Apple hater" (as I'm sure some consider me, although I would prefer skeptic, or even paranoid skeptic...) can shed different light on it.

I wasn't aware of any multitasking aside from iTunes.

Well, the Ars Technica article mentioned Mail and iTunes. There might have been others, but I didn't catch them.

This appears to be a very comprehensive revivew:

Ars Technica reviews the iPad

I'm only ~1/4 of the way through it (it's 18 "web-pages" long...)

Greg

I mostly skimmed it, but it appears to be comprehensive, no holds barred, and relatively unbiased.

I'd recommend it to anyone curious about the iPad.

A couple of things I noticed that others might want to know without diving into the review:

• Battery charging can be mildly problematic.

Ars Technica claims only more modern computers will have the power to charge the iPad via USB, and then you probably shouldn't be using the iPad at that time.

• The processor is only single core. (According to ifixit)

Not a big deal, but some have been trying to track down details on the CPU.

• It is faster than many smartphones, but slower than the ASUS Eee 1005pe

If you are looking for performance above other things, netbooks might be your best bet.

• No multitasking is a bit of a lie.

It looks like Apple specific apps can run in the background, but no 3rd party apps can. So some multitasking is available.

Disenchanter wrote:

Under "Creating Magic Weapons:"

PfSRD wrote:

Creating magic double-headed weapons is treated as creating two weapons when determining cost, time, XP, and special abilities.

It looks like you are required to keep both ends identical when enchanting double weapons in Pathfinder.

I don't see anything in that quote that would indicate they must be identical.

That is because you didn't give me a chance to correct myself.

I just logged in to post that I mistakenly remembered earlier edition(s) having it written as "must be enchanted separately," which would have meant that Pathfinder wanted it to be looked at differently.

Both versions of 3rd have it the exact same way. So my earlier ruling is wrong.