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Otherwise, there's really no ambiguity on whether or not a weapon is being used one handed or two handed.

You are not getting the heart of the question. While is clear when a weapon is used one handed or two handed, the PA feat reads

This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls

Emphasis mine. To restate, it specificall calls for a THW, not a weapon wielded with two hand (with would also qualify light weapon wielded two-handed). So, by the RAW a thw, however is wielded, qualify for the extra damage.

Not allowing TWF for unarmed specialist of the non monk type whould be not only extremely limiting, but also stupid.

If you start describing whatever spells as made of fire and it then does not deal fire damage you are breaking the most important rules of the game, the one even more important than the rule 0. It's a rule that is so much given for granted than no one think of it as a rule, but is embedded into one's playing.

I'm talking about the fact that "things have to make sense". If i'm seeing a black horse made of fire I may not know that is a Nightmare, but i can use my intelligence to deduct that it's maybe a bad idea throwing fireball at him and I would be best served if I used something like Polar ray or the like.

Reflavoring is good, but it still have to make sense and must be universaly understendable and must not rework the fundamentals so much that it become unreicognisable. Magic Missiles are famus for being a force effect, you can't describe them as a phisical icicle.

I hope you learned the lesson Lama, don't ever come to this board asking for advice if you arent willing to take 5 differents dips in 4 different classes that are the far opposite of the one you actually wanted to play.

Really, i'm all for optimization, but why is so hard to understand that if he is asking for a rogue because is a new player, you should stop throwing at him contrived build made of 3 differents classes and obscure feats taken from some god forsaken adventure path?

I don't want to sound snarky, but all we have learned from this is that dazing spell can win an encounter by itself. And that is not a news for anyone.

My take on this is, GM puts WBL gold on the path of the players, and then it's theyr business how they use it. If they blow up everything on consumables, they better be ready for hard fight or maybe the should lower their target for the next mission if they are not up to par with the task.
There is no point in playing if you playing good or bad doesn't affects your PC. Good play must be rewarded, and bad play leads to bad consequences, like death of loss of gear. That's the adventurer's life.
No risk, no satisfaction in getting the reward.

Guys, did anyone of you missed the school lession on stacking? In a D20 system, the more you have of something, the more strong it is to have an additional point.
Case
Level 5 wizard casting deep slumber CD 19 (13+5 int +1 headband)

Fighter level 5
Base will 1 + WIS 0 +1 cloak= +2
chance to stay awake: 17+ on a D20, equal 20%
+2 on the save thanks to iron will
chance to stay awake: 15+ on a D20, equal 30%
out of 8 times you would be killed, you will now live 1. Increased lifespawn of 1/8, or 12,5%

Monk level 5
Base will 4 + WIS 2 +1 cloak= +7
chance to stay awake: 12+ on a D20, equal 45%
+2 on the save thanks to still mind
chance to stay awake: 10+ on a D20, equal 55%
out of 11 times you would be killed, you will now live 2. Increased lifespawn of 2/11, or 18%

That's the reason scaling is quadratic and not linear in D&D. And that's the reason you either get a crapton of AC or you don't get them at all.

I use a not-so-quick rule for selling. You can sell by default at 50% in 30 second of real life time, and I the mighty GM will take care of where and when you did it. Or you can actually roleplay the selling. This means you could actually try to barter with other used equipment (+1 longsword for 2 +1 shields) or you can try to roll a diplomacy for a better deal at the shop or eveng pay like 50 gold permission to have a table at the everyday morning market in street in the hope someone passes by and whant that thing. Or maybe some other thing i havent thinked of.
In the end the WBL will be adjusted in the times that come, if the players are smart and propositive and find a way to get more gold, they will have the benefit of being more rich than the standard for one or two levels. After all, if they put the effort to do this means they like it, and they deserve to have theyr cake. I'm the DM in the end, so i'm still the one who will end up eating it anyway ^^.

If anyone is counting, i'm for the fee side. It makes sense, both rp-wise and mechanically-wise, and that's all i really need to decide.

blahpers wrote:

To the few in this thread that suggested that the RAW for this was ridiculous: Really? This is where you draw the line? A world of jabberwocks that literally burble and whiffle, suicidal football-headed goblins, miniature Flying Spaghetti Monsters come to warn us about the Elder Whatsits From the Void Between the Stars, and blue magic-munching camels, a guy with two shields is just too much?

C'mon, lighten up a little. It doesn't stretch the bounds of believability any more than, well, 90% of what a monk can get away with (and I'm all for PF monks). Let the fighters and rangers have their fun.

Yes, really. Because the guy is supposed to be just a guy. A trained soldier, perhaps, but just a guy.

Some of us play in campaigns with none of that stuff. Often not even monks.

I'm sad for your games then. If you play to be the pizza guy, why play a fantasy game at all?

Shocking grasp at level 1 is a waste of a spell slot. Shield and Color Spray should be your weapon of choice for the the first 2-3 levels. Shocking starts to be actually good only after you stacked some caster level, like from 4-5 onward.

With Spell Specializzartion you are going to see Maximized Intensifyed SG a first level spell, wich is awesome. With a spell storing weapn, you can go in a single round for a full attack + stored SG (60 dmg) + casted SG (60 dmg + attack) and a quickned Intensifyed SG (10d6, still a 1° level spell). That's 10d6+120+6 attacks if hasted, 4 of witch are at max BAB. Pretty dang hard to beat that as of pure damage when you consider a 30% chance of critting for double damage on each of his attacks and spells.

And if you are worring about resources expended, this are 3 first level spells, like 3k worth of pearl of power. You can have easly like 10 of those at level 15.

I think I get what you say though you messed up the math. Flurry of Bows let you TWF with your weapon. Normally, you take a -2 couz your fist are light weapon. If you Flurry with a bow, you are not TWF with a light weapon so the penality is not -2 but -4.

Tecnically i'd say yes, if there wasn't a specific table for Flurry attacks that includes the penality. Since is a specific table i think you should use that one in any cases.

Ranged Spellstrike (Su): At 4th level, a myrmidarch can
use spellstrike to cast a single-target touch attack ranged
spell and deliver it through a ranged weapon attack. Even if
the spell can normally affect multiple targets, only a single
missile, ray, or effect accompanies the attack.
At 11th level, a myrmidarch using a multiple-target
spell with this ability may deliver one ray or line of effect
with each attack when using a full-attack action, up to
the maximum allowed by the spell (in the case of ray
effects). Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast
are lost. This ability replaces spell recall and improved
spell recall.

My question is, how he does use a bow? he still need the one hand free to cast per spellstrike. Or i am wrong?

Edit: I double-psted by mistake, ending up with 2 identical thread. I deleted the other post, but I can't seem to be able to delete the thread. So, if by chance a moderator passes by, please delete the other thread. And also please don't bash me too much ^^