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DanyRay,
Hardcovers are usually Free, or their own package typically. For instance, Ultimate Campaign, Gamemastery Guide and the NPC Codex are all free. But there is not as much crunch in there.

So to answer your question.. I do not have one other then It will likely be $14.99 or $9.99 As it does have some PRC's and other spells and magic items in it that it will count for some crunch.

But this is a guess and I could be far far from wrong.

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Sara Marie wrote:

I've got the auth up and running! As usual, if you notice anything funny with your generated order, please let us know so we can get it straightened out! A few people may have seen the preorder of the Strategy Guide erroneously added to their April order and then received another confirmation email showing it moved back to the sidecart. We straightened that issue out and those people should be all straightened out.

cheers!
sara marie

If we preordered the Inner Sea Gods Hardcover is there a chance that we will get it with the subscription orders?? As in the above post it seems like it might?

Thanks!!
I am hoping it will?

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Eric Clingenpeel wrote:
WeekendWarriors wrote:
Are these going to be sanctioned for Pathfinder Society?
Since Hero Points are PFS legal, I highly doubt these will be. (Which is a shame, since they look pretty cool.) Also, with the exception of the occasional chase scene, the AWESOME condition cards, and the meh buff cards no other cards are PFS "legal"

I agree that no other cards as far as the crit and crit miss decks are not legal nor are hte plot twist cards legal. But you say that Hero Points are legal for PFS and that is not true either.

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Matt Thomason wrote:

Much as with the APs going "out of print", I suspect the truth is there's only one printing/production run of these, so if they sell fast it exhausts the stockpile.

At that point the question has to be asked - is it selling well enough that there should be a second production run, or did it sell so well that most people that wanted it now have it, making a second run unprofitable?

That doesn't solve the issue of people still wanting it, but at the end of the day there has to be profit for it to be viable, which means running off another however-many-thousand are needed to meet the economics of printing these things.

I have never known them to do a second print run of a flip mat. It has always been a single one. It is an economics thing as in if they did do a second run... will they be stuck with a stock pile of them that will not sell then? So because of that they will not do another print one that has already been printed.

Now on the other hand they have been known to do another type of the same type of flip mat. Such as yet another type of deep woods mat again. :)

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Soluzar wrote:
I gotta ask. How can this be out of print? I was hoping to get one of these for when I run The Elven Entanglement. Everywhere I look it's out of stock. How could something being used (on both sides) in a current season PFS scenario be allowed to go out of print?

Just because it is in a PFS product or even an Adventure path or some such by Paizo... it does not mean it is protected against going out of print. If anything it is more likely to go out of print because it is in a product.

But you can always buy the PDF and get it printed out somewhere and then laminated. It will be almost the same as the original hard copy.. not quite as it will not fold.. but almost :)

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roysier wrote:

WTF, I pre-order thinking this is going to be a 55-figure set just like is says. Now it's announced this is only a 45-figure set, man I hope Paizo going to refund me because a full CAse is now overkill with too many duplicates. I've sent a request for a refund already I guess I'll see what happens.

I was really excited about this set now I'm pissed over purchasing under false pretenses.

You have pre-ordered this not a purchase yet. Secondly.. this is not false pretenses. They are informing people well before hand that they have changed the structure of the case and amount of figures in this set. You STILL get the same amount per case as far as before. Instead of a 55 figure set it was lowered to 45. This does not decrease the amount of actual figures in the case we get but it does increase the amount of commons and uncommons overall we get per case.

This also reflects a price increase of Wizkids products without actually increasing the overall price itself. So be upset if you like but please do not call it false advertising please as you were not mislead at all and it is a simple thing in cancelling the preorder if that is what you want to do.

I wish you luck.

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onesacker15 wrote:
I just bought a copy of this Adventure deck from Amazon along with Adventure Decks 3 and 4. According to the packaging on Adventure deck 2, it was the second printing. I was really disappointed to find that the cards were noticeably different. The packaging was hardly the same and the worst part was the back of the cards. The second printing's card backs seemed very faded and dull compared to the first printing cards, which were bright and vibrant. These cards could easily be distinguished within a deck if mixed with the other original cards. It is really disappointing that Paizo is not able to keep the different printings consistent.

Onesacker,

the first printing of the cards was from a printer in China. The Second printing was one from here in the United States.

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James Jacobs wrote:
If it's an April Fools joke... I'm in DEEP $W*$#(* because that means I need to scramble to come up with an Adventure Path in about 10% of the time I normally have to build an AP and its support products.

My saying it was an April Fools Joke was the joke... as I knew the posting of the "Star Chambers" Map Pack wasn't. Looks like it went off well hehe :)

That was fun!!! :)

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Bardadin wrote:
Yeah, I really hope this has nothing to do with the card game. I subscribed to the module line to get RPG adventures, not some kind of hybrid product...

If it was part of the card game sometimes they would give you the option to opt out of it for that product if that is what you chose.. But why would you opt out IF it is still a module? Even if it is a hybrid, it would still work as an adventure but also give the options as another something for the card game TOO.

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It is an April Fool's Joke :)

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Seg a subscription sometimes does that. It is not being dishonest or underhanded as you have control over your account completely. It is up to you to be proactive though and check the customer service boards for the monthly releases as well as your account to see what is shipping in YOUR subscription shipment. I do it often usually around the first of the month so I know what is going to be shipped with this month's shipments and can make sure to account for the money I will need.

If you did not want the desert map was to ship after the map pack that you selected. They also ship automatically unless YOU say otherwise. So be more proactive in check what is or is not shipping and the times. Meanwhile contact customer service and you would be surprised on how they help you out.

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Scott,
I do not want to get in to a debate with you on editions by one company over another and bringing it up saying Paizo has piggybacked on a company using their OGL and or such is tantamount to said edition wars.

As far as customer service (and what I base most of Paizo's success on) is a lot in this industry. When a company is transparent in their business practices their fan base responds with their money. WotC has not been very transparent and that is one of my main complaints on their message boards. Not to mention a lot of others I have seen there. I have worked in their customer service and trust me it is not because I used to work there that I am seeing a lack of customer service. Just going to their web site one can see the anger and disappointment all over it by others.

As far as the rest of your post, I have answered it already and will not go further in to that. Again I have reviewed the product and it stands firm. I have also mentioned my reasoning here as well. Encounters was their draw in "The Sundering" to rebuild the Forgotten Realms. So it is very much relevant to D&D Encounters for that very reason. Whether you agree or not the fact remains the same. It is what WotC has decided. Not myself.

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Scott Betts,
I could tell you that I worked for both TSR and then WotC when TSR was sold, in customer service for them. I worked for them for 9 years. I know about their customer service practices. The developers used to be all over the forums and at that time in the chat rooms as well. So while you might think that WotC has always had a bad report with their internet fan base, I disagree with you. the community used to love them and that all changed when their CS reps started to quit with how WotC was treating them, which was not good.

As far as You disagreeing with me, I fully expected that. I spoke from my own experiences from experience and my background. Also from seeing what my local game stores sales are. If you think that the brick and mortar stores are failing I will respectively disagree.. there are striving stores out there that sell more then just RPG's.

I am not going to continue to debate with you though as all this is leading no where. You say that WotC will come back and that very well could be as they have not put out new product for a while. But in all the years TSR and now WotC has been in business with D&D, it has never dropped below Number 1 in sales, ever until two and a half to three years ago now.

While they might come back I do not think that they will stay. My opinion. So I am done debating with you though as I have been nothing but respectful and I do not want to lose patience with you when I am sensing some vitriol in your typing. As I could be wrong, I am erring on the side of caution and dropping out of your debate. I left my review both in here and as a review on the WotC site and here on the review page. Meanwhile.. I will continue to enjoy Paizo's good customer service and stick with them and maybe even think about going back to WotC once again. But they will have to earn it from me once again.

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Thanks Liz,
Also.. is there a way to get a picture of the cover as well?? ::so saying this in a hopeful manner:: :)

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TritonOne wrote:
I don't believe that it is unreasonable to have a collection plate and encourage players to contribute to reimburse the DM for the cost of the adventure. It's the polite thing to do.

I think that it is unreasonable to take donations from the players, no one, not even the GM should have to pay for an adventure for Encounters. It has not been this way for years and now all of a sudden it is ok to charge us as a GM and or as you suggest as a player. One has to ask why is it ok? Someone mentioned (in this thread) that WotC is a large company and because they are they can charge more for their products. I find it sad that this is the mentality that is being perpetrated in today's society and some people are buying it. TritonOne I am not saying this is you nor am I accusing anyone that they are wrong to think it, I just think that as a company WotC needs to be able to put this to rest. They are a large company and D&D Encounters is a media tool for them. By making it free for everyone then it promotes their product further and encourages people as a whole to buy their product to participate with books and such at a later time.

Encounters is and always has been a gateway to D&D as a means if introducing the game to the masses and possibly making it so that they would want to continue to play the characters that they started in Encounters in their own home game, with books they are buying from WotC to do so. WotC no longer is doing that in many ways and missing out on huge opportunities to do so. People are starting to become bitter towards WotC and D&D in general with each set of D&D Encounters that come out. This to me is very sad and I am reading about their sales going down because of it.

With the advent of D&D Next I am sure we will see a major spike in sales once again and maybe even garner the coveted #1 spot in overall RPG sales once again... but how long until they drop to 2nd, 3rd or even 4th place again based on their customer service and lack there in that they have shown of late.

Their own forums are rife with people that are upset with WotC as well. The fact that WotC does not come on to their own forums in threads there (other then blogs and such) shows they are not as caring as they could/should be. This is my based on my own experience.

It is something I would love to see change with them, but I will not hold my breath waiting for this. This is all based on my own experience and observances. One may not agree with me but it is what it is. I even see some of the same type of vitriol turned toward Paizo here as well... but I also see everyone from the CEO's down to the shipping department on here speaking and chatting with us and answering questions. This goes a long way to perpetrate a great community and one that is encouraged to buy Paizo products because it is showing they actually care about what the customers say. WotC cares too.. I know they do, but it just seems to not be seen as much as it could be in their customer service and the seeming lack of listening to what their customer base wants instead of just assuming it.

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Cool!

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Scott Betts wrote:
Deanoth wrote:
0 sets of maps.
Except for the, like, five full-color maps on the DM's screen, right?

Ok let me clarify. No encounter maps!! Zero of them in this product. The occasional city map does not give maps for an encounter.

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This product page does not talk about Encounters.. but it is ALL over the WotC page about encounters. Even to the fact that they have a special page dedicated to the players reporting their events for it. So like it or not it IS a vehicle for organized play. I do not like the fact that GM's have to buy the product to run this for encounters. This should be free. If you did not like the previous means of getting the adventures for Encounters might I suggest you actually GM one of them if they go back to that type of venue.. which they should instead of just playing? It was WotC that made it that way... not the stores.

And by the way.. I HAVE talked about the quality of this adventure several times and like it or not this very much HAS to do with D&D Encounters for me too as well.. which both are mentioned with me.

So repeating some of what I said earlier with some more depth for you. I do not agree that this adventure is comparable with an AP in any way other then maybe a page number. The books are sub par compared to what you get with an AP in quality as far as materials. The paper is thinner and prone to ripping and creases. The binding is stapled. The quality of writing to me is not nearly as good as an AP as it seems all over the place.. there are NO ENCOUNTER maps what so ever. While having the maps on the GM screen are nice, they are not for an individual encounter which sucks in my opinion. It is one of the many many reasons I buy an AP is for the maps in them. The adventure does not tie together very well. It jumps alot and does not explain where some of the encounters should take place. While this is a sandbox style of adventure it just seems to be all over the place. With very little in the way of timing or if the players do "A" then "B" has already happened, Or should happen next. If "B" happens then "F should be encountered at "J", or something along those lines.

As far as the rules systems involved, While the adventure is written generically, If they want to use the 5E rules (Which they do) then all players should have access to them. But since the Beta version is no longer available then technically they can't use them unless they thought ahead of time to save them or get them from another player or the GM.

So in short, I have discussed this at length. While you do not agree with me, I am hearing this from my local store, I am hearing this from the players involved in Encounters there and D&D players all over my area. I have been playing D&D since 1974 and still go to this day in playing. I do not like the way WotC is going with organized play and feel they are missing the mark. Organized play is a great vehicle for promoting their product and this is not a great promotion for them if they keep it up they are going to loose people. They are going to loose stores wanting to run "The Sundering" and even to carry their product... as they are burning bridges with the local store owners in general. To me that is sad. Again this is what I am hearing from several local stores and the people that go to some of them. While I am NOT speaking for them... I am just going by what I hear and my personal opinion.

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137ben wrote:
You are getting three sets of stat blocks, and they don't count against the 96 page limit. So there is actually more content in it than a Paizo AP.

0 sets of maps. Comparing this adventure to an AP is like comparing a tomato to an apple. They are the same color at least. Technically they are both a fruit. But that is where it ends.

I own this product. I own the first one, I own the latest one "Scourge of the Sword Coast". I think that WotC is just coasting on it's own laurels with these products. Where D&D Encounters used to be free, come with maps and such and be the same for each and every table week to week for organized play, makes this so confusing for people that some in to the store to play this and expect to be able to play at a different table if the one they usually play in is full. If they play at a different table then they are not going to be at the same place their previous table was at. This to me makes little sense for organized play. I am not sure what WotC is thinking of.

But as a stand alone product this is not bad for a generic and D&D compatible adventure and this is what it "feels" like to me.

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Scott Betts wrote:
Deanoth wrote:

Quote:
Paizo has Pathfinder Society scenarios that are pay to play... but that has been from the beginning and if you have a game event PFS (Pathfinder Society) provides them for free if you have 4 or more tables. Plus you can extract the images from the PDF's of them.

Legacy of the Crystal Shard is designed for 12 sessions of play. Purchasing 12 sessions worth of Pathfinder Society PDFs would run you $48, and you wouldn't get the screen or physical copies of any of the material.

So please, let's not pretend that this is somehow beyond the pale for tabletop RPG organized play.

Did you READ my post at all??

Deanoth wrote:
and if you have a game event PFS (Pathfinder Society) provides them for free if you have 4 or more tables. Plus you can extract the images from the PDF's of them.

There I added the part you cut out. They (paizo) does give them for free and since most of the events that my local store runs have 4+ tables.. we get them for free as we did the encounters before. Now we have to pay for the Adventures from WotC which is sad.

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Scott Betts wrote:
goldomark wrote:
32$ for that!?
Why is that surprising? You get 96 pages of material - the same as a $23 Pathfinder adventure path book - plus a four-panel DM screen (which typically run between $10-20 if purchased individually). In other words, it costs pretty much exactly what you might expect it to cost.

It is an expensive product. You compare this to one of the adventure path books. It is not NEARLY the quality of the adventure path books. For one the AP's are full color inside with pages that are of high quality and stock. The binding on the AP's is glued and not stapled and the AP's are 12 bucks cheaper and come with a PDF if you so want them. A PDF that can have the images extracted from them.

The screen that comes with it looks nice but it lacks in utility for the GM. It has a picture of the city and environs that is not as good as it could be with a fairly detailed legend but in tiny print. It has no tables or anything like that.

The last thing is that this series was designed for Dungeons and Dragons Encounters. Being it was designed for D&D Encounters which is organized play makes this an expensive design. It means the GM's that are volunteers in the past and now, have to PAY for the adventure instead of the many years of having WotC give them to us for free. Paizo has Pathfinder Society scenarios that are pay to play... but that has been from the beginning and if you have a game event PFS (Pathfinder Society) provides them for free if you have 4 or more tables. Plus you can extract the images from the PDF's of them.

So to me this adventure is very very disappointing!! I can not understand what WotC was thinking when they went this way. Organized play should not have something like this. Sandbox adventures really do not fit well with organized play. It is hard for people to go from one table to the next if the table they were at last week is full this week. Only to find out they are at a different point in the adventure and have to be filled in as to how that table got there. It is way to confusing!!!

So long story short.. this is NOT worth the money!! I have said as much on the WotC web site as well.

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I was wondering what the cover had too. H2Osw I am sure it will fit the iPad Air easily. based on what was in the picture.

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It did not break it.. but caused some problems with some people that use Hero Lab and 7.1. But yea they said they are submitting the issue to Apple to get it fixed and it should not take long.

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Nope.. I have an iPad v2 running 7.1 and it is running well. The best place to go though for help is not here but the Lone Wolf Development site. They are the ones that could help quite a bit. http://forums.wolflair.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43.

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Tels wrote:
I dunno... getting angry and frustrated and posting a thread titled roughly, "Paizo get your house in order!" seemed to have worked pretty well...

It may have elicited an answer or two but it did more harm then it did good. So while you may think it worked, by getting one answer or two and angering a lot of people in the process is considered "worked pretty well" then I feel sad for this community and the way some people think. Very sad indeed.

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The Crusader wrote:
I'm not condoning the tone or text of the OP, but this guy's frustration is a lot of people's frustration. Could you not simply post a "FAQ: Status Pending List" so everyone knows their topic of interest has not been forgotten, ignored, dismissed, misunderstood, etc.? It seems like that would mollify most people.

The FAQ is a service that is pretty much organized by Paizo for us as fans. A service that is voluntary on their end. They post things to the FAQ when they have time over and above their regular duties. We as the community have started to take this for advantage and seem to come to expect them to take care of it immediately. This is not how it works though.

We as a community need to learn patience and above all a little thick skin as well. Stop blaming Paizo for not doing something that is a voluntary thing, one that is purely a good thing for us and helps us out. It is not our right to have the FAQ, it is a privilege. While some might be frustrated that their questions and or problems are not getting answered. We are told by Sean at least the one in question is in the hopper so to speak, waiting it's place for discussion among the Staff to put in to the FAQ.

If you are not satisfied with "We will get to it when we have time..." then come to the community and ask it of them and see what they say about it. They might have some advice on the rule question of an interpretation of the rule that you might not have read.

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Detect Magic would not in any way work with the Hidden Master ability though. In ANY way. It is a 0 level spell for one... for two it (the Hidden master ability) specifically STATES it is not detectable by any means and includes spells meant to specifically to overcome invisibility.
From the book directly: " While invisible in this way, she cannot be detected by any means, and not even invisibility purge, see invisibility, and true seeingcan reveal her." Two of which are very powerful indeed. In this case the ability specifically overrides anything said about supernatural abilities in general.

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Rubber Ducky Guy. Hidden Master invisibilty is not detectable by Detect Magic. See Invisibility, Invisibility Purge and or even True Seeing will be able to detect it. So Detect Magic being a 0 level spell will certainly not be able to.

Especially since it does say that it can not be overcome in anyway.

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Palladium actually got bought out early last year.. so yes it is still going and churning product out.. under new ownership though.

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Steve Geddes wrote:


I'd presume everyone agrees with you that Paizo shouldnt take the fans for granted. In my opinion the big disconnect is whether that actually happens. I see claims that the staff are rude or disrespectful (or even abusive) and I just can't see it.

The exchanges I've seen put forth as putative examples are all where the staff have been blunt, uncompromising or unwilling to engage. I dont think any of those things are rude, disrespectful or abusive though. Nor are they indicative of taking someone for granted, in my view.

Well Said!!

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Memorax,
Please do not equate one posting made by one staff member as a way to make it sound like all staff members are a bad seed and that they seemingly ignore their fan base. Implying that their fan base could make or break their bottom line and using Palladium as a model for what a fan can do to a company... all wrong. Fans can loose confidence in a company and stop buying their product that is for sure. There are several companies that can attest to that some even still in business though slipping from the darlings of the fan base swiftly.

Palladium did NOT die from their fans. It died from poor business ventures that did not pay off... and then they asked their fan base to buy a $50 product to save their company and it did not happen. So If you are referring to the fifty dollar product you are absolutely right... but if any company did that they have a loosing prospect at best. It is just a matter of time before the business ended like Palladium's did.

But Paizo is not even close to that. As lisa has mentioned before with a Quote from President Lincoln, “You can please some of the people some of the time all of the people some of the time some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.” Paizo has done a great balance in please most of the people most of the time. So lets not talk about couched innuendos please.

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XperimentalDM my impression from Sean's response is that it is not in the FAQ and unanswered at this time. But they are aware of it and it will eventually get answered though.

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Vivianne Laflamme wrote:
That was a lot of words that somehow managed to not include an apology for acting abusively and rudely.

He answered your question and actually addressed your concerns. Yet you will not drop it and just plain let it go. You forget that text does not convey emotion here and I am thinking you just plain misinterpreted what was said to you exactly and the way it was said. You and one other person only read it the way you did. So just please, please let it go already.

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Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Relevant post in the other thread.

Very WELL said :)

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BigDTBone wrote:
Deanoth wrote:
BigDTBone wrote:
HangarFlying wrote:
Vivianne Laflamme wrote:
However, it reminded me of a short exchange I had with a Paizo staffer the other day. I feel that Mr. Reynolds's comments towards me were abusive and disrespectful. That thread was eventually locked, but for unrelated reasons.

Just because someone properly uses periods to end their sentences instead of exclamation points, smiley emoticons, or "lol" doesn't mean that they're being abusive or disrespectful.

Seriously, if you took SKR's response to be abusive or disrespectful, you need some time away from the keyboard in order to get a fresh perspective.

It may not have been abusive but it was incredibly condescending and therefore disrespectful. In addition to having nothing to do with what she asked.

It was neither condescending nor demeaning. It was an opinion that you or the OP did not agree with. You forget that text does not convey emotion very well and I think that you and the OP both seem to have take it a step further and found insult and or as close to one as you imply in the quote above, where there was none.

I think in part that he was/is a moderator and or staff member at the time seems to inflame some peoples colorful thinking on what a post says or means. One of the things I was told to do when I was a moderator for TSR/WotC for 9 years... was that we had to step away from the keyboard for a while if we got hot headed. Sean was OUR boss back when I was hired and for several years. It was a tough job and we had to have thick skins. Speaking from experience, it takes A LOT to get Sean hot headed and to speak out of turn in an insulting tone. So I trust that he was not being insulting when he made the post in question.

So, with the above being said I am taking it as text being taken out of how it should have been, as a non-insult and, misconception. I suggest if you

...

I am not TOO close to Sean in any way. I like the guy and I consider him a friend yes.. but I am not defending him as you might think. I am merely taking about how I was trained and by him. I know how he talks, both in person and in general on message boards and even in chat boards.

Dealing with customers face to face is so so much different then dealing with them on a message board and or a chat site. I am not saying your customer service has no merit here but myself having been in the customer service industry wit face to face customer service, I have almost the same experience as you in some ways. I was in it for about 18 years with another company and dealt face to face with customers and such myself. I was a supervisor for said company where I was in charge of training and managing a team of people too. So while that helped me in dealing with people on a message board it in no way prepared me for what I was up against.

I would say that we can debate/argue this until we are blue in the face. You are not going to agree with me and nor will I see your point of view in it being an insult or demeaning. Yes it was his company, his own work and or even that he might have had his emotions on his sleeve... but he is always one where he speaks from sincerity and honesty and with out prejudice in regards to dealing with people in both the gaming industry and it's customers. For without customers there would be no need for him as both author and or player of said games.

Yes we are all passionate and such about the games we play and or who we may buy them from.. if we weren't then we would not even be having this discussion. With that being said, it is time to let it go and let Paiso moderate the way they want. We all need to remember their job is NOT as a moderator.. but one of Author and designer. They come here because of us, to show they are as human as we are and to show too that they are unlike most other companies and be part of the community aqnd not above us.

I hope that Vivianne and BigD can be accepting of them as humans, chalk it up that text does NOT convey emotion well if at all and that it is to easily misinterpreted that your emotions might have been on your sleeves as well and seeing something not meant to be there nor intended by either yourselves and or by Sean.

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BigDTBone wrote:
LazarX wrote:
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Vivianne Laflamme wrote:
However, it reminded me of a short exchange I had with a Paizo staffer the other day. I feel that Mr. Reynolds's comments towards me were abusive and disrespectful. That thread was eventually locked, but for unrelated reasons.

Just because someone properly uses periods to end their sentences instead of exclamation points, smiley emoticons, or "lol" doesn't mean that they're being abusive or disrespectful.

Seriously, if you took SKR's response to be abusive or disrespectful, you need some time away from the keyboard in order to get a fresh perspective.

It may not have been abusive but it was incredibly condescending and therefore disrespectful. In addition to having nothing to do with what she asked.
Perhaps the poster hasn't noticed yet, but SKR is no longer with Paizo. It's a bit late in a day to start a call for an official lynching.
That being the case it is very strange that he chose to insert himself into the conversation at all. That decision was made by him, so now he is a part of the conversation. He made that choice, not Vivianne.

So Vivianne is the picture of a poster on a thread that lends itself to a furtherance of promoting cohesion of a thread and contributing to said conversation with either constructive criticism or in a positive way to keep the thread going without flaming anyone or anything or derailing said thread right?

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BigDTBone wrote:
HangarFlying wrote:
Vivianne Laflamme wrote:
However, it reminded me of a short exchange I had with a Paizo staffer the other day. I feel that Mr. Reynolds's comments towards me were abusive and disrespectful. That thread was eventually locked, but for unrelated reasons.

Just because someone properly uses periods to end their sentences instead of exclamation points, smiley emoticons, or "lol" doesn't mean that they're being abusive or disrespectful.

Seriously, if you took SKR's response to be abusive or disrespectful, you need some time away from the keyboard in order to get a fresh perspective.

It may not have been abusive but it was incredibly condescending and therefore disrespectful. In addition to having nothing to do with what she asked.

It was neither condescending nor demeaning. It was an opinion that you or the OP did not agree with. You forget that text does not convey emotion very well and I think that you and the OP both seem to have take it a step further and found insult and or as close to one as you imply in the quote above, where there was none.

I think in part that he was/is a moderator and or staff member at the time seems to inflame some peoples colorful thinking on what a post says or means. One of the things I was told to do when I was a moderator for TSR/WotC for 9 years... was that we had to step away from the keyboard for a while if we got hot headed. Sean was OUR boss back when I was hired and for several years. It was a tough job and we had to have thick skins. Speaking from experience, it takes A LOT to get Sean hot headed and to speak out of turn in an insulting tone. So I trust that he was not being insulting when he made the post in question.

So, with the above being said I am taking it as text being taken out of how it should have been, as a non-insult and, misconception. I suggest if you are taking something as an insult.. turn yourself in to a devils advocate and respond from the opposite perspective then what you would normally do and see how that looks and how your response could be colored by a misconstrued thought on how things were said and how they were meant to be read.

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The one thing the OP here has to keep in mind is that the tone of the postings are not emote capable. Another words TEXT does NOT convey the posters emotions very well if at all.

What might sound like a tone of someone accusing another and it is simply an explanation of someone's thoughts and feelings. Not an accusation.

Having been part of the thread where Liz made that comment about basically "Be Nice" (it was a thread where the title was less then optimal for a conducive commentary by others). That thread was flame bait from the beginning and was doomed to close. So yea it should have been closed and had it not been the weekend it probably would have happened early on.

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Snow Crash wrote:

Curious as to everyone else's take on things.

There have been a few APs that I have been very interested in ....until I read some of the plotlines.

I like my gaming to be fairly stock standard fantasy genre stuff.

Reign of Winter and Mummy's Mask both had me very excited. Until I read about travelling to Earth during WW1 to find Rasputin and Giant flying Pyramids.

I was just curious as to other gamers expectations.

Do you want more of the crazy ...out there ideas like the above or do you feel they're just getting a little too weird and would you prefer more standard stuff.

curious as to others opinions on the matter.

I think that it is fine and no they are not on drugs.. other then headache medications from posting titles like yours though. Is there such a reason for such an antagonist title??

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Hobbun I have used it with many AP's Itself and they all extracted perfectly. As far as the interactive maps.. the few I have used them on... they have worked well... though extracting from the AP file itself was easier in some ways. So, I would use it if I were to make a suggestion! :)

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Thank you for trying :)

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The White is gorgeous!!! :) One of the better sculpts I have seen. When I first heard of this one I was seriously considering passing on this one and now that I have seen it I am for sure getting it now!!!

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PDF Image Extraction Wizard works well too and it is what I use for PFS scenario's and PF Adventure Paths.

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Any news on these????

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N. Jolly wrote:

Okay, this existing amuses the hell out of me because it validates the existence of class guides. I honestly don't think Paizo is the best people to be commenting on their own mechanics with their grasp of the rules, but I am interested to see the suggestions.

What I will say is that I hope this book comes with some crunch, or else I doubt I could see myself picking it up.

First, this book is more or less designed for beginners. It is a book to help develop the best strategy for a character in a group setting. It will contain very little if any "crunch". They have basically said this since the beginning.

Secondly, I think that Paizo commenting on their own product is best because they designed it. I am not sure what makes you think that Paizo would be bad on their own mechanics but who better then the ones who KNOW their own rules best??

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Ok, How does Goblin Attack figure in to the 10 specials/exclusives being ran for the elusive 5th star. Considering they are basically only ran at conventions and now are part of the /5th star VO only line up??

Does running any of them count towards the bonus?

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Michael Brock wrote:
I wanted to make sure the last GM reward was going to be available before it was announced. Four and five star GMS, as well as VOs, should now have the six, one hour goblin attack quests in their downloads.

I have it but for some reason I can't download it... I go to my downloads page and click on it and it leads to a blank page?

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I ordered the Darklands Flip Mat... why has this not shipped yet?? I did not select it to be shipped with my next subscription order or anything yet it is being held back??

I was expecting to get this before this Friday (Feb 14th) and it should have been easily if it was shipped at the time of the order. I NEEDED this for a convention this weekend!!!

I am really upset :(

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Saying "I'm a right-wing, family values kind of guy and I have no problem with that moderation" referring to a deleted post attacking gay marriage, for example. The implication being that even though you might agree with post in general it was over the top.

This would start a whole other debate. I would say that left, moderate, independent, and right are all about family values. I really don't like when it's used to imply that if someone doesn't agree with person X's values that person Y's values are not valid. It's meant as an attack and it should be removed. It's not necessary. All of those qualifiers just add fuel to the fire. The moment anyone calls themselves "liberal" or "conservative" everyone now has an image in their mind of what to expect. The moment someone mentions their faith, a lot of different things will run through people's minds.

I know many conservatives who are atheists and support same sex marriage. I know many liberals who are very religious and who also agree with a lot of what Rand Paul has to say about economics. Whenever I see anyone try to pin a label on something when it isn't needed it's taken too far or out of context later and the discussion breaks down. It happens so often that I cringe when I see it.

Like it or not, "family values" has become a key word in the US. Used along with by someone describing themselves as right wing, it's perfectly clear what is meant. It's been part of conservative Republican propaganda for 30 years.

Now it's worth trying to reclaim that phrase to mean something other than traditional male dominant nuclear family and opposition to homosexuality, abortion, sex education and probably some other things I'm forgetting, but that's an entirely different project.

TheJeff, I do not disagree with you that the terminology of "Family Values" does need redefinition, but it does not need to be done here in these particular forums though.

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Aspasia de Malagant wrote:
thejeff wrote:
Lumping homosexuality in with "murder, rape, and other unholy evil acts", is offensive. I don't care if you claim it's Traditional to do so.
Taken completely out of context of course, a casual observer would come to that conclusion. This is what we are discussing here, the total and complete bias against any dissenting view. Welcome to the pep rally...

You are not antagonistic in any of your postings though right? Casual observers abound on these forums so you might want to rethink that philosophy about casual observers that "might take it that way" and then being upset when a mod edits/removes your post.

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