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That's not how it works. Flurry is a special full-attack action. TWF requires a full attack.You cannot execute two full attacks in the same round.
So just because you're an expert in reloading a light crossbow does not make you an expert in other types of crossbows.
What's he's done is legal, but it doesn't even optimize the weapon (which is sub-optimal to begin with).
If he chose light crossbow when he chose Rapid Reload he's going to be eating AoO's reloading a heavy crossbow as a free action with Crossbow Mastery.
So Crossbow Mastery makes him a master of all crossbows, but he's still has the greatest level of expertise with the Light Crossbow, hence no AoO's when reloading.
This is fine rules & fluff wise. Sub-optimal yes, but still totally fine.
He still needs point-blank master to avoid AoO's when firing. Which is nuts. They should have just rolled that into Crossbow Mastery as far as I'm concerned.
Kazumetsa Raijin wrote:
Well the whole point of this thread is to Flurry with something besides a Light Weapon via Weapon Finesse and preferably good crit range.
A scimitar is a 1 handed weapon that is not normally finessable (Dervish Dance also gets you DEX to damage). Same threat range as a katana, 1 less damage on average from dice.
Ever witness the All Blacks perform the Haka before a Rugby match? Pretty intimidating stuff right? Not so much if the TV is on mute or if you just hear the chanting from the kitchen while you're grabbing another beer.
In all seriousness I don't know why it's and, and not or. But it is what it is. If a player could describe a reason why it should be one or the other; I'd allow it.
I've had good success with my half-orc with a bite attack (I took toothy alt. racial trait). You increase your total number of threatened squares by 8; which is only going to benefit you with Combat Reflexes.
If a foe steps inside your reach you can bite them.
A common schtick I use is attack with glaive, 5 foot step and bite at -5. Then the next round I bite at -5, 5' step and attack with glaive.
I don't think vital strike works with spring attack, which is a shame.
Thank you. But when I clicked the link it wouldn't load. However, I quoted your post and then was able to copy & paste the link into an address bar.
I have a DPR calculator of my own that I use - but I've been looking at ways to improve the appearance and overall ease of use. Your layout is something I will probably borrow aspects of & incorporate into my own sheet if you don't mind?
What is it they say? Something about copying is the sincerest form of flattery?
I have no eye for presentation...
EDIT: Isn't Manyshot multiplied on a crit? That's part of what makes it so good? Did you mean Vital Strike?
I personally dislike melee DEX-to-damage builds, and will never play one myself. I also admit to being biased against them when I GM.
Why bother being biased? A DEX to damage build doesn't really need you to be actively working against it to be less relevant in combat than a STR build. They accomplish that inherently.
Invisibility makes it more difficult for the Guard to perceive you. Arguing intent in this instance is a slippery slope.
Your reasoning for a DC 15 check is, reasonable.
It would also be reasonable for me to say that creatures that primarily rely on sight; such as the Humanoid races, put so much emphasis on what they see, they don't utilize their other senses enough. You've heard the phrase "seeing is believing"?
In the case of invisible creatures it's not unreasonable to say that because they cannot be seen, they are much harder for Humanoids to detect.
Hence the reduced modifier for an invisible creature who is also moving...
No, what Sslarn is referring to is the fact that in the parenthesis after the feat name it says "Dragon Ferocity (Combat)" or "Dragon Style (Combat, Style)".
So really: Something designated as a Style Feat = Style in its name > Listed in the style feats section.
@Grooven: Hero Lab is not the authority on Paizo Rules.
It's expressly stated that a MoMS can in fact take the 3rd feat in the chain without taking the second feat, so long as he/she has the base "Style" feat.
The issue is (as others have pointed out) in a lot of instances the 3rd feat won't do anything for you without the second.
dragonhunterq quoted the rule. It is as unambiguous as anything Paizo has ever written so I don't think there is an argument for the other side... The usual argument regarding the MoMS is regarding the Elemental Fist feat and it's pre-requisites which is not what you're asking.
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
I agree that's the crux of the issue. I believe the Agile property is a more recent addition to the rules than Doubleslice; which, if I recall correctly is in the CRB.
If the intent was for DoubleSlice & Agile to work in concert I think they would have added a Special line: "If you have taken the Doubleslice Feat, you may apply your full DEX to off-hand damage". Or something like that.
However, I'm in part basing my conclusion on the historical precedence of martial characters routinely getting the short end of the "balance" stick. The Devs probably feel that DEX for initiative, AC, Reflex Saves, ranged attack rolls, melee attack rolls (with a 1 feat investment), and full off-hand damage (with 2 feat + magical property investment), would be "unbalanced".
Do I buy it? Not really.
Rushley son of Halum wrote:
Reach is a cube. This is a fact. Anything else breaks the entire operation of reach weapons or at best over complicates them.
I don't think you understand the grid based system. Pathfinder has omitted the rule from 3.5 that specifically permitted reach weapons to threaten the second diagonal; a square that is clearly 15 away according to the Pathfinder rule set.
That being said, the Developers have chimed in and made comments that moving from 15 to 5 on the diaganols should provoke because at some point the creature is moving across the 10' barrier.
Nefreet and Gauss have clearly got a grasp on things and done a very good job of explaining it for the uninitiated. Too bad they can't clear it up for the willfully ignorant.
Alexander Augunas wrote:
Thank you for posting that link. I've read your guide to challenging encounters and your blog looks great so far.
And I agree with Ciaran: Ninja does sound great for a Solo adventure.
How many players? It could be fun to actually play it out. Have the slavers make their play when they have the players isolated and alone.
If they've been sailing with the party for a few days or weeks the Slavers will have a good idea at the PC's strengths and weaknesses; use magic on the fighter, brute force against the mage etc. etc.
Most players I know would be okay with this if they have the prospect of recovering their gear (or better gear)...
If the party is low level, simply give some of the slaver captains masterwork versions of the PC's favoured equipment.
Yeah it sucks to be poisoned and enslaved, but it's great to eventually kick the slaver's butt and take his valuable sword.
The O.P. wrote:
a2) Can anyone else think of a one-handed wind instrument?
The voovoozela? You know, the super annoying soccer horn? Get an Adamantine one and club people with it. 2-hand that bad boy for 1.5x STR and 3:1 Power Attack damage when one of those hooligan fans cheering for the other team gets in your grill.
At the start of each session we go round the table giving the GM our passive Sense Motive & Perception scores. The passive score is our skill modifier +10.
That's the DC the GM uses for all of his various checks... I suspect he just uses the highest passive scores if our party is together, methodically moving through an environment...
It works pretty well too as he can just roll behind the screen without giving anything away by asking "Hey Krodjin, what's your Perception modifier again?", and then spark a chain reaction of every PC: "I'm rolling Perception!"
Malachi Silverclaw wrote:
We have the correct answer from the original rule. What's to discuss?
true. I think what's happening is people new to thread read the title, read the first post, and then post a comment without reading the posts further down the thread or referencing the rules.
I must admit - I'm guilty of doing that myself from time to time.
We have the correct, true, and unambiguous rules interpretation... We're done here.
(Fantastic referencing in your earlier posts by the way).
Okay, thanks everyone for clearing that up! So that means I could use Two-Weapon Fighting, Rapid Shot, and Quick Draw to throw three daggers in a round?
Yes absolutely - but you do take the TWF penalties and the Rapid Shot penalties. So if we assume a Fighter level 6 with the feats you listed and Impr. TWF, he could make 5 attacks at BAB +6/+6/+6/+1/+1, but with the penalties it would be +2/+2/+2/-3/-3
None of those numbers factor in ability modifiers, weapon focus, Point Blank Shot, Deadly Aim, or anything else; just -2 for TWF & -2 for Rapid Shot
Can a Medium creature use a Large lance while mounted; if they use it two-handed?
If so why? If not, why not?
It seems that the Lance is a more appropriate comparison than the Bastard Sword as the Bastard sword is a one-handed weapon, albeit with special properties. The Lance & Earthbreaker are both two-handed weapons that can be wielded in one-hand under certain, specific conditions.
Question: If a Two-handed Fighter Archetype takes Thunder & Fang and makes a charge whilst wielding his Earthbreaker in 1 hand, does he or she still receive the 2x STR modifier to damage granted by the 3rd level class ability Overhand Chop?
Overhand Chop(Ex) wrote:
T&F lets you wield an EB as if it were a 1-handed weapon, but it's still a 2-handed weapon. Does the FAQ on wielding 2-handed weapons in 1-hand apply to Overhand Chop?
Paizo Design Team wrote:
I'm so twisted up on how this all interacts right now. Now I'm second guessing everything.
You could do this with any class so long as the GM builds the adventure for such an endeavour... A bunch of Barbarians breaking out of a Prison (as an example) would need an entirely different set of challenges than Rogues, or Sorcerers, or Paladins...
But you could tailor it so that it is a fun time regardless of the class.
But the 1.5 value is referred to as "Strength Bonus" so they question is which instance of strength bonus is getting doubled, not how they stack.
You are overthinking this. The common terms/rules for multiplying tell us that multipliers are not multiplied by one another, so why would we assume that you multiply and already multiplied bonus?
Unless it's specifically called out we revert to the base number, or in this case the Characters STR bonus.
All you need to do is get sneak attack and your core Rogue will out damage your core Monk.
If you can't, I'm afraid it's a user error and not an issue with the class.
Also consider that you are sacrificing a lot for concept here. You could one-hand a Scimitar with Dervish Dance and not have to worry about getting an Agile weapon or STR bonuses.
I prefer a Golarion that includes some Elven warriors that use a Curveblade opposed to a Scimitar.How boring would it be if every DEX character used a scimitar?
For sure it's mainly just theory crafting and spitballing... Heck, you could take a level of Dawnflower Dervish Bard to get Dervish Dance without Weapon Finesse (I think), but that would mean you wait until ECL 4 to get BAB +1. That just hurts too much.
Double the buffs for self only would help offset the list BAB, but man, can you imagine having to play that up from level 1? It may (stress may) be an interesting idea if you can jump in a 6th level or something...
Playing an Archer would violate your second rule. But, if you want to play an Archer that stops at level 12, you only have 2 options;
1) Zen Archer
No other class is worth it because waiting until end game to get Improved Precise Shot won't work in a "dungeon" type environment.
So, between the choices above the Zen Archer gives you more ability to customize. The Ranger has to spend EVERY feat on Archery, the Zen Archer gets just about everything as a class ability and the only archery feat you need us Deadly Aim.
River Rat: the +1 damage with daggers goes a LONG way. Considering that it apples to ALL attacks made with a dagger, including off-hand attacks, it is certainly better than "half a feat".
A character with 10 STR who takes this trait does the same damage as a character with 12 STR (+2 to 1 ability score is worth a feat & 1 skill point/level, according to the Human alternate racial trait) and Double Slice.... So that's 2 feats right there...
I've done the math for a 3/4 BAB character up to level 12 and Daggers w/River Rat provides more DPR than a Kukri - even on a High STR build. Considering that Kukri's are a Martial weapon and most Rogue's would need to burn a feat on it, that puts us at 3 feats...
The ISWG is one of the best pathfinder purchases I've made. Some of the player companion books expand on the info for specific areas. If you know the locale you want to run your campaign in, I'd suggest buying the player companion for that area.
Varisia may be one of the most, if not the most described areas. If you're starting there you will be able to find info from a lot of sources... Maybe too many sources (depending on how much time you have for reading).
Where are you thinking of basing your campaign?
Ever considered the possibility that the Characters are fine and the Player is the D!ck?
The only easy resolution is to not play with Q.
Everything else will require a lot of effort and sacrifice on your part, and by the other players, and at the end of the day Q won't change. They never do.
Alexander Augunas wrote:
Ranged attacks and cover:Shooting into melee? That's-4
Ally in the way? Now your at -8.
Determining who has cover relative to you is often overlooked by both players and GM's.
Nothing simplifies combat for an Archer more than letting him full attack round after round without taking cover into account.
Sean K Reynolds wrote:
Thanks for calling us lazy. Thanks for the snark. That really encourages us to explain any FAQ answers we give. Yet another reason to provide only a minimalist answer in a FAQ, so that people can't nitpick, make fun of, and criticize our reasoning.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but perhaps you need to look at this another way. If you did explain the rationale behind your decisions, perhaps it would reduce the criticism you received.At the end of the day we're your clientele. We pay you for the products and services you provide.
If there's a 'balance' reason why a racial trait shouldn't work with a racial weapon I'd like the professionals to explain it to me. Saying "oh, it just says 'sling'" does come off as a cop out.