|Darksol the Painbringer|
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:Like I said, I feel this is just an artifact of sloppy writing. It should just be interpreted as adding your charisma bonus (in addition) to your dexterity bonus to your AC. Thus, it also wouldn't be considered in the max dex bonus cap from armor (that cap only applies to dex bonuses to AC).Byakko wrote:
Paladin of Irori adds Charisma to Dexterity to AC.Sacred Fist adds Wisdom to AC.
Scaled Fist adds Charisma to AC.
All of these are untyped bonuses that apply to separate abilities
Thus the two Charisma bonus based ones would stack with each other.
Don't get hung up on the author's somewhat sloppy wording. You can't wind up with an untyped bonus from an ability score applied to the same thing twice, unless it specifically calls itself out as an exception.
Before you ask what the difference is, I'll point it out for you. The Enlightened Paladin AC bonus would be restricted by Maximum Dexterity Bonus options, because it increases the PC's Dexterity bonus to AC (which is restricted by Maximum Dexterity Bonus).
This means that if I were a level 4 Enlightened Paladin, and I were to have an 18 Dexterity and an 18 Charisma, I would count as having 8 Dexterity for the purposes of applying my Dexterity Bonus to AC (and for the purposes of how restricted that bonus is for wearing armor that has a Maximum Dexterity Bonus).
If it was, it'd simply be a Charisma Bonus to your AC, and it wouldn't interact with a Maximum Dexterity Bonus at all.
But it isn't, and it otherwise does.
We can say it's horribly written all we want, but it is what it is. Saying it's something else because it's "better writing" (even though Paizo clearly defined stuff such as Divine Grace as simply being a Charisma Bonus to Saves, and this is merely an archetype of that same class), or because "balance" (many would argue that the Enlightened Paladin AC bonus is worse than other AC bonuses, such as certain Oracles with special revelations, so the claim that it's overpowered is hardly the reason why), doesn't really detract anything from what it actually is.