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Fact is, my eidolon is not optimized - he may look it, but the 30 minutes I spent creating him are not doing him any good.

You guys have the economy of movement thing going on, and with 6 vs 2 it is even more out of whack than the 4 vs 2 was.

But let's reset again and see what happens....

Hey, we don't even have a Wizard ;)

Now we see what it's like with pwoerful characters against a powerful summoner. It's a CR8 encounter (CR9 considering equipment) and that was pretty fair.

And at least Felicitas wasn't really optimized or anything. I took slightly over 30 min making that character.

It's CR8, gear is minimal. You took longer than 1 hour actually, we had to wait for you, remember ;>

And I am definitely not feeling the powerful summoner vibe - Oh No!

I run away

Gods, I liked playtesting against the pregens more. Damage output of these guys is crazy.

I am strongely considering that my guys really need more spells active before the encounter starts.

And what is worse, effectively there is even more of you!

6 against 2 is horrible odds.

I run away

Gods, I liked playtesting against the pregens more. Damage output of these guys is crazy.

I am strongely considering that my guys really need more spells active before the encounter starts.

Yeah yeah, move on already

Summoner is blind = flat footed and you get +2 to attack him

Yeah without that +2 it would not have critted, no worries though.

Kitty is up

Darkjoy wrote:

Eidolon at oopp34 with 53 hp

Pally dealt 59 dmg

See the dice hate me today

archer is up

It is really annoying that you guys win becomes my roles are sucky!

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Eidolon delays - give me a moment after each action to decide if I break delay

Glitterdust has ended more encounters than I can count ;<

thrasher save 1d20+8

eidolon save 1d20+2

defeated, argh no, no!

thrasher save 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12

eidolon save 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (9) + 2 = 11

singer is up

Thrasher moves to pp2 and casts stoneskin on the eidolon

Fire elemental will strike at the druidic lion

1d20+12;1d8+2
1d20+12;1d8+2

Burn DC is 16

looks like 1 hit - please save vs burn

Thrasher at pp2 with 89hp

Elemental at mmnn1213 with 16 hp

Eidolon at oopp34 with 53 hp

Thrasher moves to pp2 and casts stoneskin on the eidolon

Fire elemental will strike at the druidic lion

1d20 + 12 ⇒ (12) + 12 = 24

1d8 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4
1d20 + 12 ⇒ (5) + 12 = 17

1d8 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 9

Burn DC is 16

It seems as if you dealt 57 dmg to my elemental - not enough

you did 44 dmg to elemental - it has 16hp remaining

you did 18 dmg to eidelon - it has 53 remaining

It seems as if you dealt 57 dmg to my elemental - not enough

OK

The fire elemental will strike at felicitas

1d20 + 12 ⇒ (6) + 12 = 18

1d8 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8 Burn DC is 16 if I hit

Eidolon sees kitty's hesitation and elects to move to oopp34

Initiative order should then be

singer
druid
eidolon
paladin
archer
kitty
summoner
elemental

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Please wait until I decide if I break delay

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druid / kitty time?

Remember my delay.

singer speed is only 50ft

with double move 70ft so that won't work as well ;<

singer speed is only 50ft

Whatever singers action, he will keep singing his merry tune?

Kolokotroni wrote:

Darkjoy wrote:

Kolokotroni wrote:

Singer up

Singer moves to EE15 and casts glitterdust centered on the eidolon (10 ft radius would thus include the summoner)
DC 16

EE15, and you can spot the eidolon how?

lower right corner of EE15 and lower right corner of LL4, I do believe i can draw a straight line between the two, which means i can see the square, and thus have line of effect to any corner in it including the middle of the eidolon.

On my map this cannot be done, will check.

Sorry, coop and or barn interfere from all corners at ee15

Darkjoy wrote:

Kolokotroni wrote:

Singer up

Singer moves to EE15 and casts glitterdust centered on the eidolon (10 ft radius would thus include the summoner)
DC 16

EE15, and you can spot the eidolon how?

lower right corner of EE15 and lower right corner of LL4, I do believe i can draw a straight line between the two, which means i can see the square, and thus have line of effect to any corner in it including the middle of the eidolon.

On my map this cannot be done, will check.

Singer up

Singer moves to EE15 and casts glitterdust centered on the eidolon (10 ft radius would thus include the summoner)
DC 16

EE15, and you can spot the eidolon how?

elemental at mmnn1213 with 60

summoner at jj3 with 89hp

eidolon at kkll34 with 71hp - delays

Eidolon will delay - until after kitty makes her move.

fire elemental moves mmnn1213 and attacks archer

1d20 + 12 ⇒ (8) + 12 = 20

1d8 + 2 ⇒ (7) + 2 = 9

If it hits you need to save against burn, DC = 16

Thrasher summons a large fire elemental at nnoo45

Kolokotroni wrote:

Darkjoy wrote:

kitty does have protection from energy active I believe, please adjust.

yep i subtracted the 17 from what was left in the wiki and 48 is left.

I have question about felicitas though, is she wild shaped yet? Her combat statistics seem to imply she is but doesnt seem so yet.

she did wildshape this round, also the protection of fire seems to be already reduced from jumping through wall of fire. Initially it was 84 (7*12)

NO, the druid had not wildshaped at the start of round 3.

Darkjoy wrote:

kitty does have protection from energy active I believe, please adjust.

yep i subtracted the 17 from what was left in the wiki and 48 is left.

I have question about felicitas though, is she wild shaped yet? Her combat statistics seem to imply she is but doesnt seem so yet.

NO, felicitas is not wild shaped at this time, notice the small icon for her

kitty does have protection from energy active I believe, please adjust.

Kolokotroni wrote:

I can play i guess we can see if brod is available.

Sadly, I am not, work beckons.

On a parting note, Darkjoy is correct on Doggie's hp, he should be at 71. Kitty and Yasha have the right HP though.

Doggie's hp breaks down as:
8 (max first)+ 4.5x7 (31.5)+ 3x8 (Con, 24) + 8 (toughness) = 71.5

The other two have the correct total:
8 (max first)+ 4.5x5 (22.5)+ 3x7 (Con, 21) + 6 (toughness) = 57.5

Actually eidolon has d10's and 7hd. I rulled that everyone gets ful hp from first die.

you are jumping right into round 3 , just before kittys charge.

Just remember to keep pressure high on summoner, while not letting doggy charge. Felicitas/Kitty/doggy and to a lesser degree Paly are MAD ( Mutually assured destruction) considering charges. If Doggi must charge before you can get to summoner let it charge Paly, since he can best avoid attacks/ stand the punishment.

Azmahel, go study already

link to wiki and stats

Darkjoy wrote:

Kolokotroni wrote:

Ok give me a map

wiki is all set up, scroll upwards.

ah so same map same situation?

Yes we are at round 3, the moment where things got fubar-ed

Kolokotroni wrote:

Ok give me a map

wiki is all set up, scroll upwards.

remember: paddock and sty are now difficult terrain.

Ok give me a map

wiki is all set up, scroll upwards.

Initiative order was Singer, Felicitas & Kitty, Naylisk & Yasha, Archer, Thrasher & Eidolon.

If neccessary i think i can run the whole party, will just have to be careful as the current statistics contain buffs, though I think i would likely replicate most of them, but not all depending on the situation.

Want to give it a try?

Why not, probably will be some crying anyway (if PCs die)

Darkjoy wrote:

Kolokotroni wrote:

So the playtest yesterday lead to a pretty handy win for the party over the summoner, though I think at least part of that was the summoner trying to wait for the perfect moment to strike and getting nailed in the process.

Any thoughts on doing another today?

Yes and the HP were off, Kitty would have been toast if I had caught that mistake sooner.

perhaps a little less cat and mouse today? Since it was you that wanted to test the 'soft' side of things.

Soft side has nothing to do with it, at round 3 you were drawn out and 1-1 summoner + eidolon is a meatgrinder.

So that little hp oversight killed the playtest - mistakes were made again.

But we will see how things go today, oh yeas we will

Azmahel will not be joining us today (or so he says ;>) so we need to establish who drives who - and who will actually play today.

So the playtest yesterday lead to a pretty handy win for the party over the summoner, though I think at least part of that was the summoner trying to wait for the perfect moment to strike and getting nailed in the process.

Any thoughts on doing another today?

Yes and the HP were off, Kitty would have been toast if I had caught that mistake sooner.

Azmahel, did you notice that you were the only one that jumped through the wall of fire?

Other people respect the wall of fire, why not you?

Dark Heresy? I love Dark Heresy!

Insanity points, corruption points, you've got to get them all :>

Yes I threw a grenade into a crowd of people to kill the bionic assassin, yes it killed the peons and the assassin escaped, but it was NECESSARY.

Fear is my ally, so if my companions soil their trousers because they look at me when they shouldn't, because I have the fear aura thingy up....sucks to be them.

It's easy to be a homicidal maniac with a mandate from the inquisition in Dark Heresy, it's fun too! Sadly, your homicidal maniac is quite squishy......

Darkjoy wrote:

I am sorry to announce that playtest #2 was slighlty botched as well. Yesterday I discovered that the hp for the eidolon are off, by 10 points. It should have 71hp not 61 (stupid addition mistake on my part).

I'll see if I can correct it at the wiki.

I get to 66,5: 7*5.5+7*4

Remember It gets companion HD not full on first.

I made a blanket ruling on first dice in the a man and his dog thread. But even with that ruling in place, Kitty's hp are off too.... with full die at 1st your kitty has only 54hp and only 51 with 1/2.