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Craig Bonham 141 wrote:
But why prevent a 3pp from creating something for a niche market?
Simple, the Pathfinder name is on every book. This is a name currently on a card game, minis from several companies, comic books and more. They don't want their name associated with something like the Book of Erotic Fantasy.
That is fine by me. If I wanted to do something like that, all I'd have to do is to take off the PFRPG compatible logo and ask my lawyer for the appropriate language to indicate compatibility while keeping me out of legal hot water.
Might I also recommend Rite Publishing's #30 Evocative Vehicles. It doesn't have a great review, but I enjoyed it (to each their own).
From the depths of the desert sands, beneath the unrelenting sun, Great Pharaoh, blessed of the Gods, has collected these Objects of magic and power. Chronicled by the Scribe at the behest of our God-King, every item has been meticulously recorded. Some items protect the user while others aid the user in adventurous endeavors; they may be portable or stationary. It is the sincerest wish of Pharaoh that all find within this scroll items that bring Glory to their Names.
Within this 16 page PDF, you will find:
Don’t leave the pyramid without these exciting magic items.
I would like to take a moment and say that Marie did an exceptional job on this. She put a serious amount of work in on this and her efforts deserve recognition. Next I would like to recognize Kevin, the editor on this project, Steev, our resident Hero Lab programmer, and Richard, JBE's other editor. All three of whom really went above and beyond to make Treasury of the Sands something to be proud of.
But most of all, I would like to thank everyone that sent in a magic item to our open call. We received a number of amazing magic items and I wish we could have used them all. The ones that were published really knocked it out of the park. Thank you all.
Jesper at Blood Brethren Games wrote:
Incomplete is a bad word. Don't think of it like that.
Think of it a different way. When I came up with the Book of Beasts: Monsters of the River Nations, I skirted the line between being ok legally speaking and illegally using Paizo's material. Now, I knew exactly where the line was so I never crossed it.
Paizo, in the same way, knows exactly where the line is between perfectly legal and plainly illegal. So they can cut it closer than those that do not know where that line is.
So unless you understand what they did, how they did it, and why they did it, don't follow their example. Stick with the long version of listing everything.
Now to it the ARG's OGL being incomplete: it isn't. They referenced everything they needed to reference to be perfectly legal. If you're not sure exactly how that is so, you shouldn't try to emulate it. Heck, I understand what they did, how they did it, and I have a reasonable guess as to why they did it and I'm not going to try it, because it is too close to the line for my liking.
Jesper at Blood Brethren Games wrote:
That person would then be in violation of of the OGL, because Paizo's S15 in ARG is incomplete...
Section 6 requires you to do 2 things:
So if you used the ARG in something you were working on, you have to include what it says in the ARG's section 15. Even if you don't understand how they included B1-3 without all the rest, you don't have to look up B1-3's OGLs to find out what is in them.
I was talking with someone over email today about the Section 15, specifically whether you should just list the books you use or everything that those Section 15's as well. And I realized that this is something that has been discussed many times on these boards and others should hear it as well.
The OGL says:
OGL Section 6 wrote:
Notice of License Copyright: You must update the COPYRIGHT NOTICE portion of this License to include the exact text of the COPYRIGHT NOTICE of any Open Game Content You are copying, modifying or distributing, and You must add the title, the copyright date, and the copyright holder’s name to the COPYRIGHT NOTICE of any original Open Game Content you Distribute.
This means that every book that you publish, you must list everything in the section 15s of the books you reference. Everything. No exceptions. Period.
But that argument gets quickly countered with, "Just look at Paizo. Are they doing it wrong?" Here's the Advanced Race Guide's Section 15:
ARG's Section 15 wrote:
So why did they not list the mammoth long listings for Bestiary's 1-3 in this book. Why wasn't the listings for the Pathfinder Core Rulebook listed? Well, technically speaking from a pure OGL standpoint, they didn't have to list those four books in the first place. I mean, they own B1-3 and their contents (atleast the parts they didn't take from OGL sources). So if they don't list them, who is going to sue Paizo? Themselves? Not so much.
Everything Paizo needed to reference in their OGL is either in the d20 SRD or in the Tome of Horrors. Paizo could have left B1-3 off of their OGL. But they didn't. Why did they do that? I don't know, you would have to ask them to be sure. However, if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that they wanted to credit the authors from B1-3 that did not work on the ARG. Some of the authors for B1-3 may not have worked on the ARG. If those authors did not contribute to ARG worked on some of the races, they didn't need to be credited in the OGL. But I imagine that Paizo felt that they should be credited so they simply listed those books in their OGL. So now if you use an Oread or a Udine (just to pull two out of the air, no clue if they actually were the same authors in the two books or not), the original author for each is listed in your OGL.
However, this leads many to confusion. Many feel, "Oh so I only need to list in my OGL what I used, not what those books listed." That is not true. You still need to list everything you used and everything those books used in your section 15.
As an example, in Shadowsfall: Shadow Plane Player's Companion (print on sale for $2), I used a dhampir and a fetchling as well as creating the umbral kobold and the wanderer. Because I used two races detailed in Paizo's books, I'd have to list either B2 or the ARG. But if I made a supplement that detailed the Umbral Kobold and made no mention of the dhampir or fetchling, I could leave them out if I so choose. But if I wanted to add in the Shadowsfall: Shadow Plane Player's Companion to my section 15, I could do that. Now, technically speaking, I should add in everything in the Sf: SPPC's section 15 as well. That is good form and a safe legal practice. Doing anything else is shaky, legally speaking and I would not recommend doing it without talking to a lawyer.
Jesper at Blood Brethren Games wrote:
What do I do, buy it. It's that easy. It's a business expense. I understand that the book is expensive and you don't want to, but frankly if you want to get the legal part right you can either a) buy the PDF and get it right or b) don't use it.
This week, we are giving you some free pirate booty. We at Jon Brazer Enterprises are giving away our Book of Magic: Pirate Spells for free for today only. Download this book of spells for your adventures on the high seas today. And do not forget to check out our other Books of Magic to enhance your world and your game today.
Another present to you from all of us at Jon Brazer Enterprises, we present to you the first piece of fiction released for Shadowsfall. Pawn Deception and Sacrifice is free for download today only. This exceptional short story, written by geek author Mur Lafferty. Introduces the dhampir character Valdia and shows the deadly Plane of Shadows. Only the truly brave venture into the darkness. Download this amazing story today.
It’s the holiday season, whether you celebrate Christmas or Hanukkah or Boxing Day or the Winter Solstice or Festivus or any others. Our present to you this season is a $2 sale on printer Shadowsfall books. As the days grow shorter, play on the Plane of Shadows, where high noon looks light twilight and a blood red moon shines on a good night. Grab the Book of Beasts: Monsters of the Shadow Plane and Shadowsfall: Shadow Plane Players Companion in print today for a holiday miracle of a price.
Order the Book of Beasts: Monsters of the Shadow Plane and Shadowsfall: Shadow Plane Players Companion, each for $2 today. Also be on the lookout for other One-Day Free Downloads throughout the month.
Thank you mention Shadowsfall, Caedwyr.
I should mention that Shadowsfall is not a standalone campaign setting. It's designed to be the plane of shadows for any existing campaign setting. It works with standard campaign setting without changing the familiar setting you already know and love.
Also rather awesome: Jon Brazer Enterprises' Shadowfall - essentially adventuring in the shadow plane.
Thanks for the mention EZG. Yea, the Shadowsfall: Shadow Plane Player's Companion and the Book of Beasts: Monsters of the Shadow Plane are the two main books at the moment covering Shadowsfall. the setting works with any campaign setting, allowing you to plug-and-play (as it were) the setting right into your existing campaign setting. Several other supplement for Shadowsfall, as well as fiction, can be found here.
Jon Brazer Enterprises would like to welcome our new line developer. From the Mile High State of Colorado, we are pleased to have Marie Small join us. With an amazing list of writing credits that include the Book of Heroic Races: Seedlings, Pathfinder Player’s Companion: Dragon Slayer’s Handbook, and Conflict PvP: Tactics & Teams.
Marie describes herself as an evil overlady with her own small army of minions consisting of a husband, two cats and four kids. She enjoy games of all kinds, reading, music, and creating art of all kinds. “I’m extraordinarily grateful to my husband for holding me to my promise to compete in RPG Superstar 2011. I’m also grateful to everyone who voted (regardless of whom they voted for), the judges, and the fine folks who have granted me the opportunities I’ve had ever since.”
We are really thrilled to have Marie apart of our team. Please join me in welcoming Marie to Jon Brazer Enterprises.
Beltane (Associated Domain: Sun)
IMO, Kingmaker affords the most role playing possibilities. The players get to determine how fast or slow they want to take exploration. If they want to spend time getting to know a (what is in the adventure) nameless NPC, that's their call. There's very little overplot that is forcing them onto the next area. Heck, the second module doesn't have much, if any, plot. It is really nice for players who want to do things like get married, create serious magic items, develop long lasting friendships with NPCs, advance age categories, convert a tribe of kobolds to good alignment, you name it. IMO, that AP is a roleplaying gold mine.
Back when I played Exalted regularly, I use to download the PDF from drivethru, take it over to Staples and get them to print and spiral bound the PDF. It cost less than buying the print book and I will always have the PDF as a backup if anything happened to the print book.
To this day, I still wonder why people that want a print book don't do that more.
Dude, I can't even play 3.5 anymore. Yea, I played 1E back in the day as well. I looked at OSR clones not long ago, thinking maybe I can convert some of my monsters into those systems and I was like, "yea, I left that a long time ago, I can't go back." 30-ish year old game design ... just not for me.
Today at JonBrazer.com, we are posting a few Favored Class Options for Non-Favored Races. What do I mean by non-favored races, I mean races that do not get the same amount of love as humans, elves, dwarves, or even gnomes. So today, we are sharing with you few of the options you can choose for your character. We even are sharing with you a few options for the Time Thief, Psion, Soul Knife, and Malefactor classes. Why, because we love them as well.
Read more at JonBrazer.com
Goblin Bait wrote:
I just want to say thank you for mentioning us and remembering that we put out high quality material.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
The ones who freelance for Paizo tend to send their best stuff there,
I wouldn't say that. I submitted to Paizo what they asked me to write. I was told to write this idea, with this word count. That is what I did. Did I do my best work within the word count constraint, absolutely. Do I feel I could have done better work without that constraint, absolutely. But they have space requires they must work within so word count is limited. Its just a reality of modern publishing. And, when I am writing for them, they are the boss so I aim to please.
But when I am writing for myself, especially for a PDF release where space is much less of an issue, I can take the time to do as much as or as little as I feel the idea requires.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
Its because we 3PP don't always want to go in the same direction as Paizo. I put out two supplements of vehicles since the Ultimate Combat rules came out. How many supplements of vehicles has Paizo put out since they developed those rules? Outside of the skull and shackles AP, that answer is ZERO. Is it because all their own rules suck and they abandoned them? No. Its because Paizo wants to go in a different direction. I, on the otherhand, choose to use them to make my own vehicles that are alot more creative than the basic wagon, cart, boat, and airship they included with the rules.
But that is the direction I choose to go in. I could pitch that idea to Paizo until I am blue in the face. But if they are not interested in going that direction, then there is no amount of awesomeness they will buy.
Might I recommend the Book of Beasts: Legendary Foes from Jon Brazer Enterprises, my company. While it is not a module, it is in the level appropriate range you are looking for. It starts at CR 15 and extends up to 25 as well as 3 demigods which are CR 28 and 29. It focuses on monsters but includes NPCs and traps as well.
Jeremy Smith wrote:
Congrats good sir.
I went to your profile here, looking to PM you, but you've (apparently) opted out of PM.
*goes to setting to double check* Nope, I can receive PM. And I do have a number of PMs in my inbox and sent messages.
I clicked on your website link, and spent several minutes trying to find a contact link... no dice.
On the About page on my website right next to my name, it says "contact" with an email link that to me.
I am sorry you feel that way. And you are correct, it was a shameless plug and I did forget to put a:[/shamelsss plug]
tag after the post as I should have. For that I am sorry as well.
However, my sincerity is nothing short of complete and total. I got ridiculed plenty when I was young because many of my fellow classmates believed I was gay. I have had a decent number of conversations with my parents where they were upset at me for not telling them that I was gay. It basically comes down to the person I am pings everyone's gaydar (forgive me if that is a pejorative, I have not kept up on the terminology). Heck, a gay friend of mine in college once called me the "closet hertosexual." I understand the bigotry and the rejection that many in the LBGT community experience because to this day I get it as well, despite being straight. So yes, I am a straight ally of the community. From where I sit, your fight for equality is my fight as well.
So whenever I heard about last year's GenCon "Queer as a Three Sided Die" seminar where no one could give an example of a transgender character anywhere in a single published roleplaying book, I was stunned. But then I realized I could use my "powers of publishing" for good. So I went to work. I asked two different transgender friends of mine for what they would like to see and the core idea of what I wrote is theirs. I don't want a transgender gamer to say again, "I have no one in my favorite hobby that I can identify with." Never again.
One of the few things I can do to help advance the cause of the LBGT community is publish material to speaks to them. So that is what I do. It is not my first nor will it be my last. If you do not want such a product promoted here, I can understand that and will respect that in the future.
Good day everyone.
I just wanted to let everyone on this thread know that in the Book of Beasts: Legendary Foes (released yesterday) we included Libet Deity of the Inner Self. Libet is a true neutral transgender demigod. One of the cult members described in the write up is a LN half-orc monk cleric that underwent a polymorph to change genders.
Everyone at Jon Brazer Enterprises are big supporters of the LGBT community and we want you to know that we stand with you.
Dale C. McCoy, Jr