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You are not eligible to get natural spellcasting at level 5 since the saurian shaman does not get wildshape til level 6. (there's a faq)
Also, I found wild speech very useful- with a limited number of uses of wildshape and with planar wildshape costing 2 uses, I was reluctant to drop dino form to talk to the party.
Quick wild shape also helped.
The polymorph rules says all constant effect except armor bonuses still work in altered form.
A rod of extend will increase the duration of greater magic fang, barkskin, and longatrider. Use these every day.
When you get wild shape at 6th, you already count as 8th level for dino forms, so you already have all the beast shapes you will ever get.
From the description of how Polymorph works in the Core book:
While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form.
You also lose any class features that depend upon form, but those that allow you to add features (such as sorcerers that can grow claws) still function.
While most of these should be obvious, the GM is the final arbiter of what abilities depend on form and are lost when a new form is assumed.
Your new form might restore a number of these abilities if they are possessed by the new form.
I like Wild Speech.
Also, it seeems the latest FAQ about uses per day would prohibit getting the smite from planar more than once a day, regardless of how many times you use planar wildshape.
Sounds like a cool document.
Have you considered putting a skills modified section?
Does it include CMB and CMD?
And thank you for the work you have put into this- it is an AWESOME idea!
Druids are divine casters, not arcane.
Have you looked at the PRD (pathfinder rules document)?
I mention this as it includes the rules for the magus, an arcane class that uses weapons and armor and might be something you'd want to play.
Gestalt really helps for this.
If you're going mythic, there's a rank 1 ability under hierophant that lets you take one form using wildshape and not count its use against your number of wild shapes per day.
There are some complications with this.
Amulet of Mighty Fists works, giving a bonus to all natural and unarmed attacks, and can be enchanted with up to a +5 total equalivent of abilities.
Magic Fang does not affect unarmed attacks, only one natural attack.
Body Wraps are a bonus to one attack a round (actually 1 attack per 5 of your BAB) which must be activated which means, according to the polymorph rules under which Wildshaping works, that they cannot be used while wild shaped.
Rule (from description of polymorph effcts):
I suppose you could have yourself wrapped after you wildshape as long as you're not shaped as a fire elemental and the wraps are sized correctly for your new form.
Of course, to use monk abilities with natural attacks requires two feats (weapon focus and feral combat) per natural attack, though it has been FAQ'd to allow all flurry attacks to be taken with the same limb or weapon.
A multiclassed monk/druid would need help to get the CL 20 needed for GMF.
At that point, your bonus would be:
+5 from GMF
All for about 1/3 of the WBL of a 20th level character.
edit: And I'm wrong about the gmf as Rudy2 comments.
from the prd:
Wild Empathy (Ex): A druid can improve the attitude of an animal. This ability functions just like a Diplomacy check made to improve the attitude of a person (see Using Skills). The druid rolls 1d20 and adds her druid level and her Charisma modifier to determine the wild empathy check result. The typical domestic animal has a starting attitude of indifferent, while wild animals are usually unfriendly.
To use wild empathy, the druid and the animal must be within 30 feet of one another under normal conditions. Generally, influencing an animal in this way takes 1 minute but, as with influencing people, it might take more or less time.
A druid can also use this ability to influence a magical beast with an Intelligence score of 1 or 2, but she takes a -4 penalty on the check.
1) So the feat brings back the wording of wild empathy to say you can use wild empathy on oozes at minus 4 to your wild empathy ability, as if it were a magical animal.
2) So cast call animal, use wild empathy, then use handle animal to give you an ooze pet. It's not a companion, but should work well to get a pet.
3)Anthropomorphic animal, which can be made permanent for a cuddly ooze/humanoid cohort, means you get to do the ooze voice.
Had you considered doing this character as a druid?
Wild shape is the ultimate natural attack combat style, you have access to all druid buff spells, and can go dragon shaman if you want to feel draconic.
Feats give access to casting wildshaped, talk in wildshape, get permanent claws in standard form, etc.
In regards to making a quaterstaff, the craft skill is not a trained only skill and the cost of a quaterstaff is -.
The same is true of clubs, wooden stakes, and slings.
Meaning you don't have to use improvised weapons if you've got a few minutes and access to wood, leather, and stone.
For your melee types, redcaps are CR6.
The irreligious ability makes them not too tough, needing an 8+ on the die or be frightened away.
They're 2400 xps each, so fairly cheap for your army.
Also, attacking dwarves with even smaller bearded men just sounds cool, especially when you compare movement rates.
Throw in advanced template or class levels to add to individuals like leaders or slingers and they might make your treant led army very dangerous.
I could even see a roleplay moment when the treant realizes what kind of monsters he's brought to the battle.
Here's a section of what I use for your viewing pleasure:
• Create Water: Creates 2 gallons/level of pure water.
• Air Bubble (UC): Creates a small pocket of air around your head or an object.
Refering to the original question, yes, a druid played well can be extremely powerful.
How does banning a class past a certain level help?
I've seen a particular player dominate several games, regardless of whether he plays a fighter, a cleric, a sorcerer, or a goblin rogue.
Players make the difference as does play style and table variation (especially house rules, money, and gear).
Personally, I love playing druids, so I admit I may be biased about bannig them.
to derail abit
A Druid isn't impossible to challenge: Earthglide doesn't work through worked stone.
Actually, it matters where you get the earth glide ability.If it comes from the ability of the earth elemental, there is no restriction about worked stone.
If your earth glide comes from another source, worked stone may or may not be prohibited.
Here's some quotes:
from the bestiary description of the earth elemental:
from the prd description of the spell:
from the stone oracle:
from the deep earth sorcerer:
from the earth school wizard:
from the kobold bloodline:
from the grey disciple:
from the universal monster ability:
Of course, this is up to individual DM's to determine if they want to limit earth glide so that all the user's have the same rules.
And if you want to open another can of worms, ask what happens when an earthgliding druid pins a foe and wants to move him undergroud and leave him there.
Would it be possible to do a variant of the switch hitter ranger using daggers?
If you went with quick draw and point blank shout instead of combat expertise and butterfly's sting and went with weapon focus (dagger) and the river rat trait as was mentioned, you'd be using feats and a trait that would work for both combat styles and would add together.
You'd be trading the higher threat range of the kukri for a dagger that would work with both ranged and melee.
Your build seems to already be leaning towards magic use more than the standard ranger with the archetypes giving up all but one favored enemy and one favored terrain, so concentrating on a single wepon might fit the build.
Obviously, you wouldn't have the range of a long bow weilder, but you could still use the bow for long range , drop it for middle range with thrown daggers, the melee with the daggers as well.
By the way how will your ranger spells work with dual wielding?
Also, elementals can talk. This means they can cast spells without the Natural Spell feat.
Yes, they can speak, however you still need the natural spell feat for access to your spell component bag, which would unavailable to a polymorphed character.
It should be up to the GM whether "roughly humanoid" equals "has normal humanoid hands and can use weapons".
These are the feats that have been mentioned:
Benefit: You take no penalty on attack rolls for using a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage.
Normal: You take a –4 penalty on attack rolls when using a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage. You cannot use a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack.
Special: A rogue with this feat can use a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage with a sneak attack.
Sap Adept (Combat)
Prerequisite: Sneak attack +1d6.
Benefit: Whenever you use a bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal sneak attack damage, you gain a bonus on your damage roll equal to twice the number of sneak attack damage dice you rolled.
Sap Master (Combat)
Prerequisites: Sneak attack +3d6, Sap Adept.
Benefit: Whenever you use a bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal sneak attack damage to a flat-footed opponent, roll your sneak attack dice twice, totaling the results as your nonlethal sneak attack damage for that attack.
Prerequisite: Intimidate 1 rank.
Benefit: Whenever you deal nonlethal damage with a melee weapon, you can make an Intimidate check to demoralize your target as a free action. If you are successful, the target is shaken for a number of rounds equal to the damage dealt. If your attack was a critical hit, your target is frightened for 1 round with a successful Intimidate check, as well as being shaken for a number of rounds equal to the damage dealt.
The thought is, using these feats, scout + charge (or move after 8th level) = opponent is flat-footed, so takes 2 x sneak attack damage, plus bonus damage equal to number of dice, from an attack with a bludgeoning weapon used to do non-leathal damage, with no minus to the attack.
The effects from enforcer are just a bonus.
Skirmisher (Ex): At 8th level, whenever a scout moves more than 10 feet in a round and makes an attack action, the attack deals sneak attack damage as if the target was flat-footed. If the scout makes more than one attack this turn, this ability only applies to the first attack. Foes with uncanny dodge are immune to this ability. This ability replaces improved uncanny dodge.
I notice neither ability says you have to make a melee attack.
Merciful make any weapon non-leathal and adds a d6 of damage.
Getting back to the blunt requirement, sling is a simple blunt ranged weapon.
I can't tell you from my own experience, but I've read several times that a two-handed weap rogue will out damage the two weapon rogue by hitting more often and using power attack when hitting is easier.
Prerequisites: Str 13, Power Attack, base attack bonus +1.
Benefit: When you are wielding a two-handed weapon or a one-handed weapon with two hands, and using the Power Attack feat, you do not suffer Power Attack's penalty on melee attack rolls on the first attack you make each turn. You still suffer the penalty on any additional attacks, including attacks of opportunity.
You can charge (or move), swing a two-handed weapon with power attack, and take no minuses to attack.
Another option would be to get pounce, which would let you make a full attack on a charge, though that would take dipping into a class that lets you get pounce.
The previously mentioned sap adept line of feats would add more to the initial effect of your sneak attack which could be done by two handing a Merciful blunt weapon, such as a mace or staff.
Taking improved unarmed combat (possibly from a ninja talent) would let you get style feats such as the dragon style ability to charge through other people allowing more opportunities to charge.
Hell, now I want to make this character.
Dueling is a straight cost enchantment.It isn't a matter of the +4 or +5- it just adds 14,000 gp to the cost of the magic weapon.
So it could be +1 Dueling and cost 16,000 gp or be a +5 Dueling and cost 64,000 gp.
Crusader's flurry gives the monk quality to your deity's favored weapon, allowing it to be used in flurries.Besmara's favored weapon is the rapier, as is Cayden Caylean's.
With monk levels. I might suggest using mantis style- a stunning fist followed by the rest of your flurry of rapier could be effective.
Another option would be go light armored and use the ever popular glamered armor, to have your light armor look like a loincloth.
I didn't realize you were talking about such a thick piece of rope.
Now I can't picture how you could possibly use a 50' length of 1 1/2 thick rope in combat, but I'm remembering an old Palladium book (I think) that gave a list of weapons from around the world.
One description concerned a chain or a weighted chain which was used not as a flexible weapon, but in the same manner as a staff. (I pictured lots of spinning.)
How much would 50' of cable weigh?
Lasso: This thrown weapon is a length of rope with a simple open knot on one end that allows you entangle a foe like you would using a net. The DC to cast a spell while entangled with a lasso is 10 + the spell level being cast. An entangled creature can slip free with a DC 15 Escape Artist check as a full-round action. The lasso has 2 hit points and AC 10. It requires a DC 23 Strength check to break it. On a successful hit, the lasso tightens; to use it again you must spend a standard action sliding the knot to enlarge the loop.
Why not just give prof(exotic weapon):lasso?
Otherwise, the first bit that I see is- why a bullrush that knocks down?
The redcap has this ability:
Just to make sure I understand this, the choices are:
From the fluff description:
The redcap has a +19 stealth, but the fluff describes a clanging noise is heard when running, but says nothing about a noise during a normal move. (Note the normal move of a redcap is 60'.)
Also, past 8th (when you count as 10th for wild shape), this feat can get you into a fast and combat worthy wild shape as a swift action (Dienonychus).
Quick Wild Shape
So your round is standard action summon, quick wild shape, and still move.
You'll have these:
Allosaurus for when you need a T-Rex substitute
A huge, swift hunter, the allosaurus measures 30 feet in length and weighs 10,000 pounds.
Deinonychus medium, 4 attacks and pounce
Elasmosaurus for swim and reach- also works well with vital strike with strong jaw
Compsognathus for stealth and scouting, with a minor poison that's based upon your level-see polymorph rules
From the PRD:
Flame Blade (Mythic)
Source flame blade
The blade's damage increases to 2d6 points of fire damage + 1 point per caster level (maximum +20). The blade threatens a critical hit on a natural 18–20 as if it were an actual scimitar.
Augmented (3rd): If you expend two uses of mythic power, the blade threatens a critical hit on a natural 15–20, and bypasses hardness, fire resistance, and fire immunity.
edit:This seems to me that you count as using an actual scimitar, so improved critical would work, giving you a crit range of 15-20 without augmenting.
Totemic Summons (Su): At 5th level, a saurian shaman may cast summon nature's ally as a standard action when summoning reptiles and dinosaurs, and these summoned creatures gain temporary hit points equal to her druid level. This ability otherwise functions as the dragon shaman's totemic summons ability.
Totemic Summons (Su): At 5th level, a dragon shaman may cast summon nature's ally as a standard action when summoning lizards, and summoned lizards gain temporary hit points equal to her druid level. She can apply the young template to any lizard to reduce the level of the summoning spell required by one. She can also increase the level of summoning required by one in order to apply either the advanced or the giant template, or increase it by two to apply both the advanced and giant templates. This ability replaces a thousand faces.
With saurian you won't wild shape till 6th level, but I disagree with the 'slow wild shape progress'.
I would recomend wild speech.
You might want to think about using the magus as a base rather than a fighter.
With these arcana,
Broad Study (Ex): The magus selects another one of his spellcasting classes. The magus can use his spellstrike and spell combat abilities while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class. This does not allow him to cast arcane spells from that class's spell list without suffering the normal chances of arcane spell failure, unless the spell lacks somatic components. The magus must be at least 6th level and must possess levels in at least one other spellcasting class before selecting this arcana.
Wand Mastery (Su): Whenever The magus uses a wand, he calculates the DC for any spell it contains using his Intelligence modifier, instead of the minimum modifier needed to cast a spell of that level.
Wand Wielder (Su): The magus can activate a wand or staff in place of casting a spell when using spell combat.
You could mix casting into your combat round, including flameblade.
nate lange wrote:
it doesn't seem like the flame blade actually has an 18-20 crit range
You are right.
The basic spell does not get any of the properties of an actual scimitar.
Thw wording of the spell goes back a few versions, where it was important to note that the druid could use the spell effect without any minuses for non-proficiency as the only sword a druid was proficient with was the scimitar.
Didn't I see a thrower build awhile back that carried a pouch of large (or huge) size sling stones so his projectiles would count as ammo?
(I'm not saying it was legal or anything, but drawing ammo such as slingstones is a free action. It may be that ammo from a creature several sizes larger than the PC might not still be considered ammo.)
Take 5-Foot Step (from the PRD)
You can take a 5-foot step before, during, or after your other actions in the round.
You can only take a 5-foot-step if your movement isn't hampered by difficult terrain or darkness. Any creature with a speed of 5 feet or less can't take a 5-foot step, since moving even 5 feet requires a move action for such a slow creature.
You may not take a 5-foot step using a form of movement for which you do not have a listed speed.
Whether the square requires 10 ft of movement doesn't change the fact it is a single square.
So I would say that no, moving 1 square in difficult terrain to end up adjacent to an enemy does not provoke, but does count as a move action.
I'm not going to read 2 pages of posts, but consider this spell:
Quench is often used to put out forest fires and other conflagrations. It extinguishes all nonmagical fires in its area. The spell also dispels any fire spells in its area, though you must succeed on a dispel check (1d20 +1 per caster level, maximum +15) against each spell to dispel it. The DC to dispel such spells is 11 + the caster level of the fire spell.
Each creature with the fire subtype within the area of a quench spell takes 1d6 points of damage per caster level (maximum 10d6, no save allowed).
Alternatively, you can target the spell on a single magic item that creates or controls flame. The item loses all its fire-based magical abilities for 1d4 hours unless it succeeds on a Will save. Artifacts are immune to this effect.
High enough level caster is doing this twice a round (with quickened), consider it can be from a earth elementel traveling by earthglide with tremorsense (with cave domain) or a fire elemental.
Add a second druid (cohort or another PC) and picture 40d6 per round, no save or SR.
You get no skills or skill bonuses particular to the shape from wild shape.
And you take size adjustments into account for CMB, CMD, attack bonuses, and AC mofifiers.
except for the dire ape bite damage while also using a weapon.
1d6 + (1/2 str bonus of +6) so 1d6 +3
Of course, if you were Fighter 10/druid 6 with shaping focus, you could use large earth elemental shape for a +6 size bonus to your Strength, a –2 penalty on your Dexterity, a +2 size bonus to your Constitution, and a +6 natural armor bonus.
Instead of 1 bite, your secondary attacks would be 2 slams at +16, damage of 2d6 + 3. (slams don't use limbs as far as we can tell)
Orfamay Quest wrote:
The difficulty comes when your halfling druid uses this to go Elasmosaurus and then uses the tail attack in halfling form.Is it still a huge tail attack with a reach of 20 ft or does the tail match the size of the halfling?