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Titan Centipede sounds cool, my Bestiary is in the mail right now (GET HERE ALREADY!). It's for a solo game for a level 6 fist fighter who's pretty tough. I think he'd really enjoy getting to beat down a colossal creature.

With this product we're moving away from the 15 page collection of map reprints that the other map folios have done. This'll have six four-panel poster maps in it—two of cities and four of the wilderness region the AP takes place in. No reprinted dungeon maps at all.

I'll admit to never having used the dungeon maps, but I just hope that we don't lose some of the more useful (to me) maps in this transition. I used these map folios generally for player handouts, Fort Rannick and the Turtleback Ferry region being the most useful. Same with the Castle Korvosa and that town from LoF#1. So if it serves those purposes I'll be very happy.

What's the lowest CR colossal creature in 3.5/PF?

The only one that comes to mine for me is the Titanic Creature from MM2, which if like anything else in that book, is under-con'd (yes I'm an EQ veteran).

Sannos wrote:

I would love to see Undead book.

Might get your wish, I think this would be awesome too.

As for lycanthropes, we had to make some hard choices. While we weren't especially interested in doing a lycanthrope book - which would end up being more than 50% wereboar, wereshark, werecapybara, weresnail - we cherry picked the werewolf and included him in the upcoming Classic Horrors Revisted. This does not mean that another book on lycanthropes is impossible down the line, but it's just not something that rose to the top of the pile. Fortunately, you get the iconic lycanthrope in just a month or so here, so... yay!

I have two favorites, they're in fact really the only two 3rd party books we use.

Secrets of Pact Magic, which I am perfectly happy with and don't need Paizo to make another book of (though I'd love to see Pact Magic show up in Golarion).

and

Book of Erotic Fantasy, yeah it had some stupid stuff in it, but it also had a lot of great stuff. It's also the only book that really tried to add sex into the game, which is such an important motivation in life that it really should be addressed in campaign settings. Why so much violence is ok and sex is so taboo is far beyond my comprehension. I'd like to see Paizo do their own book addressing it, but it'd make a better 64 page paperback than a hardcover rules book. Also it's not high on the priority list, Psionics/Savage Species/Asia first

It's been stated that Alkenstar and Numeria (and possibly others) will never get expanded upon; that they were only put in there so Golarion could encompass every type of D&D game.

But why bother? If I want to play a game where Alkenstar would feature prominently, I'd have to pretty much make up the whole of the country, and if I'm doing that why not just make up a whole setting around it?

Not trying to just make a dig at you guys, but I really wanna see more stuff in places like Alkenstar and not just have them pushed aside because a couple of you don't like guns.

As long as there's still "Mind Switch, True" I'll be happy.

And I cannot, for the life of me, envision a new base class that'd bring with it the need to print 7 pages of reprinted material. If that comes to pass, we're doing something wrong.

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:

Aren't these guys from Dallas?

We were from Dallas, now we're in Ohio.

Joseph Browning
Expeditious Retreat Press

seekerofshadowlight wrote:

Please by all thats unholy don't call it an anti-paladin. I know you guys like the old school vib, I do alot myself. However it sounds like a cheap comic villain from the 60's

The class still isn't nailed down name-wise, but we are indeed favoring antipaladin right now. The other big option is, of course, blackguard... but since this class is going to be a full base class from level 1 to 20, naming it the blackguard replaces the 3.5 prestige class option, and we'd have to decide if losing compatibility with 3.5 for this class is worth it. And if neither of those choices is right, we'll have to come up with a brand new THIRD name for the class, which is a poor option since it would confuse folks who already understand the concept perfectly when the class is called antipaladin or blackguard.

Antipaladin appeals to me not only because it's got a LOT of tradition and nostalgia behind it and because it's something that everyone who plays the game immediately understands (unlike the growing pains we're going through with names like "oracle"), but also because it evokes the "antichrist" type vibe as well, which in popular culture brings up imagery from movies like The Omen, which ALSO helps define the class's role.

That said... we're also not afraid to retcon or let some stuff in "canon" go if we realize we let in something we don't necessarily like or isn't good for Golarion. I know this tends to drive canon trackers like Yoda up the wall, but there's really nothing to be done for it. There's too much being created for Pathifnder for one person to approve everything for, and sometimes things like wand rifles slip through the cracks and we have to sweep them back under the carpet and hope folks eventually forget about them. ;-)

Considering the low damage of thrown weapons (generally) over bows I'd allow it.

I mean CHICKENS can TALK! WHOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAA they don't even have lips! lol

Regardless of whether or not dogs can form words with their vocal chords in the real world, I would like to mention that talking animals isn't exactly rare in fantasy.

Personally with my animal companion I'm not increasing its Int to 3 or higher because I want to really delve into the tricks system with this character (and with the other companions he collects through the Animal Lord PrC), but any player of mine who did I'd let the companion speak.

I just want to make it clear I don't think Paizo is all hardcore about their IP, just wanted to make a message saying I hope they don't become so. After all if it wasn't for giving up a bit of copyright by Wizards, there'd be no PFRPG today (although 'technically' you can't copyright game mechanics anyway).

ChrisRevocateur wrote:

I hate a lot of this copyright bullcrap. I mean, if no one is making profit off of it, or reducing the likely hood that the profit that would otherwise be made from the intellectual material, I don't think there's a problem.

I'm currently eating a burrito for dinner. I can do that because I get paid to work at a job. My employer can pay me to work at that job because we produce a product that is ours to profit from. Copyright helps us to retain control of that product.

So if we at Paizo seem defensive about copyrighted material, try to keep in mind that we've got a pretty good reason. Copyright laws help us to not die of starvation.

(goes back to eating delicious burrito)

People should not still be milking money out of "Happy Birthday". Copyright originally lasted 7 years, the government granted you a 7 year monopoly on your work as incentive to continue to make new work, NOT to try and come up with one good idea and milk it for 100 years.

And going all nazi on copyrights like the RIAA did with their lawsuits is NOT good for business. Anecdotal evidence: I downloaded quite a few dungeon/dragon issues after playing a little bit of Age of Worms, it was my first experience with the magazines at all. I was pretty poor at the time, however thanks to those downloads I got hooked on paizo's work. And now I've bought every pathfinder book to have come out since then (and most of the PFS scenarios to boot). Illegal downloads are more often free marketing than they are lost sales.

People will buy what they can and will download what they can't. Pirates aren't out people with 50k+ salaries, they're poor college kids, teenagers etc. Don't go around letting people go crazy downloading your stuff, but don't go all fascist either, strike the balance (which is what Paizo seems to be doing now) and all should be well.

There does need to be copyright reform though, and badly.

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For Andorans, "manacle"-styled wedding cakes might be rather popular, with the cutting of the cake celebrating their shattering the shackles of their pre-married lives.

I don't normally browse the subforums (and just rely on the main forum list to find interesting topics) but seeing them now yeah they're pretty ugly.

Truth be told I'm not very fond of the forum engine being used anyway. I like ones that allow signatures/personal avatars.

Our group had a lot of fun imbibing the 'typical Varisian meal' from Curse of the Crimson Throne, I'd like something like this.

There are no plans for one yet, but I'd love to some day see one! As for the Pathfinder RPG, the OGL makes things complicated but not impossible to make a Pathfinder RPG game. It's actually more likely, I would guess, that we'll see a video game set in Golarion than a game that uses the Pathfinder RPG rules exactly. CRPGs aren't the only category of video game, after all.

But again, there's nothing like this in the works and no indication it'll happen anytime soon, if ever.

My basic concept for the game is:
PC definitely, 360 maybe

Takes place on the Isle of Kortos (the whole Isle of Kortos being a free roam sandbox to play in)

Deals with the Pathfinder Society and the shadow war between factions

Affects the world of Golarion in a significant (but not CS shattering way)

Co-op for up to 6 people via LAN or Internet

Coridan wrote:

(probably Bainbridge Island)

If you commute to Paizo from Bainbridge Island, you have to take the ferries and that is a big, time-consuming, expensive hassle.

I've heard people requesting more linkages between adventures, more of a sense of "something going on" in the campaign beyond the events of a given scenario.

Do you feel this way?

Do you wish your in-character actions had more of an impact on the overall "plot" of the campaign?

Should the campaign have an overall "plot" at all?

For recordkeeping sake, I loved the oWoD metaplot and how the Camarilla LARPs had an impact on it.

In 3 or 4 years when my boyfriend finishes college we'll be considering relocating and the two places at the top of the list are the Seattle area (probably Bainbridge Island) and Britain. If we go with Seattle you can expect me to just set up shop in front of the Paizo building reading their books until they either invite me in out of the presumable rain and hire me or call the cops =p

I could see an AP that works as a sequel to a previous module, that could go from 5th-20th or what have you.

Sorcerer who focuses on summoning spells would be a good choice as well.

Any links or anything?

Responding to the concern over the novels affecting canon and such...I think what Paizo should do is have the novels be historical novels. Instead of books taking place during the current year, have them take place during the Whispering Tyrant stuff and other events like that.

I obsessively follow canon as far as it relates to Golarion's planes. It's the sort of thing I'd offer continuity checking for free on.

As far as other areas of canon, I try to keep up on it, and if I'm writing about something it's just standard to cull the various books that touch the subject and make sure I have a solid grasp on them before I do much more than brainstorm. Anything less seems unprofessional to me.

Missing an obscure reference is fine, and people miss those little things and it's understandable. But there's a difference between little things like that and either rewriting canon from a point of ignorance on prior material, or simply not reading the sources because it would take away time that you could use to write (and I've heard both positions rationalized by others before, which obviously I don't agree with).

I'm a big canon nut on both Star Trek and Star Wars and a bit of Vampire the Masquerade. When I run historical games I do a ton of research as well to get things right. If someone says "We're playing a game in 1915 France" and doesn't even know World War I was going on is not living up to their DM responsibilities.

I was psyched when the Campaign Setting started as this is the first CS I'll get to be in on all the changes from day 1.

I'd like to see a more organized and regular system for the 'minipaths' that have popped up over the last two years.

Right now we have Falcon's Hollow series, Entombed with the Pharaohs series, Last Baron series and I think one more that is escaping my memory.

I love having the minipaths, but I'd like to see them be a bit more regular. I propose once or twice a year a 3-part miniseries that could expand on things not big enough (or maybe popular enough) for a full adventure path but something the fans are still clamoring for.

Examples would be:
Alkenstar
The Shackles (we need us some pirates)
A prequel trilogy to The Demon Within
Viperwall

just as a few examples.

What do others think?

Plus it allows to world to feel alive, and though it can be daunting to new players, it will also help keep players in to see what happens next.

There were always complaints about the 'metaplot' of the old white wolf stuff. Then they got rid of it, and most people still play the older setting because it was more interesting.

Devils are tools used to obtain power. Chelish peoples seek to control and use devils, and not be beholden to them. When a Chelish person makes a contract with a devil they expect to be on the better side, and try to summon devils they are capable of controlling.

Chelish people see themselves as superior to everything, they really are the Nazis of Golarion (especially considering their original flag =p)

Frostflame wrote:

Well true her pitfiend couselor is a little bit of challenge, but it would make a great Adventure Path to bring about the downfall of devil empire of Cheliax

While this would indeed make a compelling adventure path... it's not one we're ever likely to do. At least not anytime soon. We don't really want to "break" any of our nations so that they obsolete what's in the campaign setting hardcover, and don't want to cause any huge changes to regions until we're absolutely sure we've played out all the possibilities for gaming in that region. And the chances of playing out the possibilities are honestly pretty slim for all of our nations.

For example, a great thing for Kingmaker would to have the 'best ending' be one where the PCs unite the River Kingdoms into a single nation and then have a single nation there canonically. Golarion is desperate for a Camelot.

We have just finalized our group for our first session tomorrow. I don't have all the names in front of me but we have a

Human Spirit Binder (from Secrets of Pact Magic)
Human Rogue (going to Master of Masks)
Hellbred Paladin
Tiefling Sorcerer
Halfling Ranger (going Arbalestier from Master at Arms)
Half Orc (or Dwarf) Cleric of either Torag or Milani
Half Elf Bard (going Urban Savant from Cityscape)

We've decided that Tartini's "The Devil's Trill" will be the theme song for the game =p

Choices A and B are hardly exclusive.

Choice A) I love modern's versatility, humans of modern day certainly don't fit into one of 11 classes, we mix and match our lives. I myself have a bit of a soldier in me, a bit of an animal handler, and quite a bit of nerd. In d20 modern I mix a bit of fast, smart, charismatic, wildlord and soldier. d20 modern needs a lot less work than 3.5, but I'd love to see better systems for vehicle use and wealth.

Right now my group is running an Urban Arcana game where the setting invading modern earth is Golarion rather than Greyhawk and are having a blast. The Pathfinder Society is a ton better than 'Department 7'.

That all being said, I'd love a PFModern regardless of mechanics. Just try to keep the versatility of plugging the system into any time era.

Apparently my group has been way off with the Ee-yo-mi-day

And West Texas is the armpit of hell...literally.

Take it from a resident.

NJ rox though, best state in the country followed closely by Arizona and then Washington State.

In Dallas now. We're - sorta - half way home! Daigle, your homeland is hot, the hats are strange, and we keep getting glares. I expect you to do something about this if you ever want us to go through with Spicy Tex-Mex Flavored Paizo South!

I'd think if he was found out he'd be in trouble. Binders call on a lot of forces outside of the hiearchy of hell.

That said I encourage your player to go for it. Don't forget to DL the Pathfinder RPG update off pactmagic.com.

I'm pretty darn certain those boxes weren't just sitting around waiting to go out while nothing else was. They were constantly packing and shipping boxes for a solid week and a half to two weeks. The faster shippers were just a bit lower on the queue because the hope was for everyone who preordered to get theirs on the 13th or as close to as possible.

...you can keep your Spell Compendium spells. PF obviously couldn't add them in because they were closed content.

Always having hated generalist wizards I can't comment much on the other stuff.

From what I remember playing through this, we as a group were given a choice of several different missions and did them in whatever order we wanted. Heck we didn't even do the Wererat one.

Having read this whole thread, it definitely seems like your DM is focusing too much on the book, one of our DMs has done that with an AP and it killed the AP pretty quick for us. You as a DM HAVE to be willing to work the AP to your PCs (and make sure the PCs are a good fit for the AP). APs are an interactive novel, with your characters as the starring role, it is very story and event driven rather than character driven.

In a game like that the focus is on the DM to supply the plot and adventure and keep it fun, rather than a player driven one where the DM is more reactionary to the actions of the players.

I guess at this point I will wait and see. The book looked good and the setting interesting. Yet I rather not buy it and find out that Paizo will release an updated one.

I'm betting it's the psionics stuff. Mostly because there's a sticky thread they put up a WHILE back with "What do you want in Psionics" and it's got eleventy-billion posts to it.

I'm looking forward to seeing a new Wilder and new Thrallherd (my two favorite Psionic classes) and the return of Mind Switch, True (my favorite....uh 'villainous power I would never use to maintain my own immortality'...yeah...)

The vast majority of the book is fluff. It's information on the setting and not rules specific.

The rules that ARE in it however, feats, PrCs, etc are either fine to use or easily converted. In fact most of the stuff in it is legal in the Organized Play which uses the PFRPG rules.

Don't know how much will be updated, but the Pathfinder PrC is updated in the core rule book.

might be more interesting if one cover went to subscribers and the other went to retail.

As I posted in the CoT player's guide thread I wasn't nearly as thrilled with the CoT PG as I was with CotCT or Legacy of Fire's.

I'd really like to see the PGs go to the Companion line. The physical product is a bit sturdier to pass around the group than a print-out (and less risky than passing the laptop to my clutzy friends). This PG just seemed well, half done. A lot of the great stuff for players that was in the Westcrown article would've been really nice in there (for example the Wiscrani slang terms), and I would've loved a LOT more info on the city.

The CotCG PG (hell that whole AP) is the standard I hold all APs past and present to. The theme and setting of CoT (as well as using this new bible-sized book you just sent me) have me really excited but the PG was just...eh.

The more I think about it, the more I'd rather player's guides went back to the Companion line. The Westcrown article AND the Tiefling article could've been added to the player's guide, along with some new feats, equipment, and a some more traits to fill it out. What would've gone into the back of the CoT 1 I don't know but I don't care much for the PDF only player's guide.

I was wondering how Cheliax might view Pact Magic. (Using Secrets of Pact Magic)

I have a character concept for CoT - basically a middle child in a lesser noble family who was sent to a school of wizardry. Unfortunately for him, he has no arcane talents whatsoever, and despite his hard work studying and efforts he could not cast even simple cantrips.

In steps a mysterious benefactor who teaches him pact magic (possibly a sympathetic professor). Using pact magic he binds Forash and summons a lesser sky devil to pass his final exam.

Thus instead of turning into a 1st level wizard, he became a 1st level Spirit Binder.

Unsure how to recommend to the DM how Cheliax might view it if it was ever found out, I think I'd like it to be something he'd have to keep hidden from the authorities as it'd be more interesting but can't find the justification for why Cheliax/Church of Asmodeus would disallow pact magic.

Thoughts/Suggestions?

Needed more campaign traits (like 4 or 5 more) but otherwise cool.