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The article I posted about it in the US Education thread said this was the third time charter school teachers in Chicago have threatened to strike in eight months. Different school each time, I believe. I remember one where they were planning on going out in conjunction with the CTU; posted about it at the time. Don't remember at the moment what the third one was.
Two other labor articles:
Although I just saw a headline that they went back to the table.
And one about the Indian autoworkers that Comrade Longears mentioned earlier:
Also, since it keeps coming up, I have no interest in continuing the conversation via private message, and while I shouldn't speak for him, I doubt Irontruth does either.
Private messaging is for things like him saying we should get a drink while I'm at socialist summer camp in Minnesota and me replying thank you, but I am not going and returning the invitation if he is ever in New England.
How is that passive aggressive? It occurred to me while I was composing the post, after I stated the question, so I included it.
Well, part of the problem might be that you are reading into things that aren't there.
For example, I never cited your agreement with Rahm on winning elections as approval of his handling of police killings. We've been in enough police brutality threads together that I don't need to be told that you disapproved of them.
I did ask, and am still asking, given his record and what he has done to win elections, why we should listen to a word he has to say about winning elections and coupled it with your earlier dismissal of Sanders as the white male progressive's candidate. I suppose the answer is because Rahm won and Sanders didn't, but I don't see any benefit in winning elections to make sure that the official covering up for police killings (or, for that matter, shutting down schools, attacking unions, etc.) has a "D" after their name.
I like to think that I am aggressive aggressive.
Well, the f-word and r-word are direct quotes from the man.
"Circle jerk" was me; the exact phrase turns out to be "masturbatory agreement session."
Other than that, I can't see what's not nice or well-mannered about the discussion, but, since Paizocon's going on, I will just nod my head in agreement and smile along with the opinions of a yuppie racist piece of shiznit (Rahm, not Irontruth) until it's over.
Someone let me know when it's over.
Again, discussing what Rahm did to win elections while discussing Rahm's opinions on how to win elections seems pretty pertinent.
Going back to your original question, which opinion of yours was I assuming? That Bernie Sanders is the white male progressive's candidate or that we should listen to a word Rahm has to say?
You mean the discussion where you referred to some non-military actions of Obama as his "worst" and Comrade Fergie said there was worse stuff and you said, "I'm a pacifist, do you want a circle jerk?" and then pressed him on which American occupation/bombing he liked best?
Bringing up what Rahm Emanuel did in order to win elections when discussing his opinion on how to win elections is a non sequitur?
Also, Comrade Jeff, if you're referring to me, I wasn't "talking up" Brand New Congress. I was discussing what I knew about them when Comrade Fergie brought them up.
As I mentioned in my first post on the subject, we had a debate with them. I guess I didn't spell it out, but I completely disagree with their perspective and provided a small example of how "progressive left"/right-wing alliances lead nowhere.
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Bernie Sanders is the white male progressive's candidate, but we should listen to what Rahm "Liberals are f&+&ing retarded--oh, and I covered up the killing of Laquan MacDonald for 400 days so I could get reelected" Emanuel has to say?
I must admit that I, for one, don't understand at all where you "identity politics" Democrats are coming from.
Yeah, it doesn't look like they came close to hitting their goals. (Not that I'm in any position to look on down on people for being small.)
That the BNC plans to run Tea Party Republicans pretty much crosses them off my list
That struck me as curious, too. I chased down the citation. It's credited to an article called "The Future of Bernie Sanders's Grassroots Army" by D.D. Guttenplan in The Nation.
Oddly, there is no such article. There is an article of that tile by Clare Foran in The Atlantic, but the article by Guttenplan in The Nation is called What's Next for Bernie Sanders's Grass Roots Army.
The latter profiles, among others, both BNC and the WFP, but the only mention of the Tea Party that I can find with a cursory ctrl-f is:
Or as Waleed Shahid, a talented young organizer I met on the Sanders campaign in Philadelphia, put it: “The biggest lesson to be learned from the Tea Party’s playbook is that they don’t work for the Republicans ; they make the Republicans work for them.”
But I admit I haven't read it thoroughly yet.
Saw that one floating around, but hadn't read it yet. Favoriting for the Rahm hate.
[Note: I think that candidates can run under multiple parties at the same time. For example, in NY, I can vote for Bob the Candidate of the Democratic Party, or Bob the Candidate of the Working Families Party.]
I think New York's got something special called fusion voting, but I'm not clear on the details.
EDIT: Interesting random bit of wikihistory:
In the case of Occupy NH, it didn't even work out well in the short run.
It was, of course, only the Libertarians who voiced anti-union sentiment within Occupy NH.
Make of that what you will.
We had a three-way debate with a representative from BNC last...summer, I think it was? Us, the BNC, and someone from the Greens.
It was billed as a "debate" but everyone pretty much agreed on what was wrong, just not what to do about it. The BNC guy distinguished himself from the rest of the room by saying that people should even run on that platform in Republican primaries in deep red areas and that the "progressive left" needed to seek common ground, where possible, with the Libertarians.
At least, that was his opinion. I don't know if it is reflective of the organization as a whole. "Progressive lefts should seek common ground, where possible, with the Libertarians" is a perennial theme here in New Hampshire. It turned our Occupy into a real clusterf*&&, what with long, tedious debates about whether or not we supported unions, e.g. I don't think the BNC speaker was in New Hampshire when Occupy went down, or else he probably wouldn't have said that.
It isn't. I found it remarkable that a town I consider a summer playground for the international elite was described as "working class" by the state Dem Chair. Then I went and looked it up. It's all there in the original post.
Still not sure I believe it. I mean, every watering hole for the bourgeoisie needs its proles to serve them drinks and clean their boats.
EDIT: The town's wikipedia page has a median household income, as of 2000, at $42.853. The page "New Hampshire communities by household income" based on a more recent survey (2010-2014) has it at $62,200.
I'm sticking with my gut instinct that Buckley massaged the truth on that one.
I was having a hard time envisioning Wolfeboro, NH as a "working class town" as described by the NH Dem Party Chair in the link above, but I looked it up and, apparently, the year-long residents only have a median household income in the $40k range.
During the summer, though...well, here's an article about the international elites who have historically vacationed in Wolfeboro...starting with Chiang Kai-shek?!?
(Synergistic weirdiosity: I've been reading about Chiang Kai-shek recently.)
EDIT: No box stores, $5 million homes and a private high school that costs $57k a year? Sounds working class to me.
Finished Jhereg in the wee hours of the morning after some overtime. Have to admit, I was a bit wary of it at first; kinda felt like a mobbed-up gamer novel, like something TSR might have published. But I warmed up to it by the end and am looking forward to reading the next one in a bit.
Got a copy of The Tragedy of the Chinese Revolution from the interlibrary loan system. It's the third edition, revised from the one on the internet, so I am starting over, although it's largely the same, just the author moves a little bit further rightward with each edition. Also, it has a map on the endpapers, which helps a lot.
Anyway, I had this to say in the 5th sentence of page 55 thread:
"I am reading a copy online; had a xeroxed copy a couple decades ago but it's long gone."
Which is why I chortled when I read the following in the Introduction to the Second Edition:
First published in England in 1938, this book has led an eventful life of its own. The plates and surviving copies of the original edition were destroyed in the Nazi bombing of London in 1940. A pirated edition published in Shanghai had a much wider circulation, copies of it turning up in many different parts of the world in later years. In India in 1944 I came across a condensed version circulating in mimeographed form. It has remained in all this time the only detailed, documented account of the original Kuomintang-Communist alliance, and of the way in which Russian-directed policies drove the Chinese Communists and the great masses of Chinese who followed them into a tragic debacle. As such, it has been cited in numerous bibliographies and mentioned in many a footnote, while actual copies of the book became increasingly rare. As events again and again brought reminders of the pertinence of early Kuomintang-Communist relations, it became a much-sought-after work, pursued through advertisements in book journals and by direct inquiries, of which many have reached me through the years. It has not been possible for a long time to meet this demand and I am grateful to the Stanford University Press for making this revised edition available now."
Anyway, I'm also going to start the second Brigadier Gerard collection today.
More breaking local labor news:
I think I read about them declaring bankruptcy earlier in the year.
The plant is the infamous "Seabrook" nuclear power plant that so many leftie activists in the area that are ten to twenty years older than I got arrested trying to prevent being built.
Ironically, we're probably going to have to go protest it being closed.
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Heh. I was just putzing around on the Jacobin website and I saw an advertisement for the launching of a new, spin-off journal, Catalyst. I follow the link and was delighted to read
"Catalyst is a beautiful print journal published by Jacobin and edited by Robert Brenner and Vivek Chibber."
Random Leftie Article of the Day
The only science writer that I have more than two books by, I had the pleasure and honor of meeting Professor Gould a couple of times in the nineties, usually while getting his endorsement for various anti-racist demonstrations at Harvard.
Yesterday was the Boston Rally for Public Education. Four thousand attendees, according to the Boston Globe but I can't see any more articles this month.
Leftist Bingo-wise, it was nice to see our Progressive Labor Party friends from Worcester, Mr. Comrade was invited to address an ANSWER rally today by the comrades at the Party for Socialism and Liberation, the International Socialist Organization was out in force, as were we, along with the comrades from Solidarity and the Revolutionary Communist Party. Didn't see any of the Democratic Socialists of America comrades, but there were, apparently, two AT&T Mobility picket lines within walking distance of the education rally, so I assume they were there (we went to the one in Nashua before getting on the bus in Lowell).
Anyway, a beautiful's summer day, on Boston Commons, surrounded by hundreds of teachers in summer dresses, rompers, and short shorts? Yeah, that was a pretty good day.
And, last for tonight, another installment of
Tales from the Shopfloor
This actually happened a couple of weeks ago, but I keep forgetting to write it up, so I will now.
There was a union sister whom I had to represent a couple of times, years ago, when I was still a steward. Think I posted about her once, but anyway, she had a history as an amateur stock car racer so, unlike a lot of UPS part-timers, had no anxieties about becoming a driver, so she very quickly went full-time (it's much easier to go full-time if you're willing to drive). I ran into her the other day, while going in, and she told me that she had been bumped off road (seniority stuff) for the summer and was working the twi-mid shift until they put her back on road. "How long have you been here now?" I asked.
[Sigh] "Five glorious, glorious years."
"Oh, come on, you're already full-time, you must be making bank, you're doing alright."
"They've fired me twice."
"Well, I notice you're still here. What'd they fire you for?"
"Well, the first time it was for [makes scare quotes] 'assaulting a customer.'"
"What?!? You gotta tell me that story!"
So, apparently, she had just made a delivery to a construction site and was driving away when a guy yelled out at her "I'll give you ten thousand dollars if you suck my dick!" So she looked for a parking spot, pulled her truck over, got out, went up to him, and punched him in the face.
I laughed, apologized for laughing, asked her what the union said, etc. She talked about the constant low-level sexual harassment that she puts up with, etc., and the long and the short of it was the union talked it down from termination to a five-day suspension.
"So, hold on," I said, "Go back to after you hit the guy in the face, what happened then?"
"Well, all his buddies swarmed around and started yelling."
I assumed they were yelling at her so I was surprised when she said,
"That's probably what saved my job. He was so embarrassed, when the cops showed up he refused to press charges."
"Yeah, they all swarmed around and started yelling 'That's what you get! That's what you get for yelling at women! Hit him again! Hit him again!'"
Anyway, sexual harassment aside, I thought that was a pretty heart-warming story.
So, I was very pleasantly surprised to discover that, in fact, the retail workers at AT&T Mobility at the Pheasant Lane Mall are, in fact, organized into the Communication Workers of America.
We held a picket line in front of the store, in the mall. Air conditioning, food courts, bathrooms, lots and lots of eye candy, from now on I think I am only going to picket lines in malls.
Best parts: a Spanish-speaking grandmother shouting "Huelga!" and pumping her fist in the air; hearing a resounding chorus of "U-nion! U-nion! U-nion!," looking up and seeing four barely pubescent boys on the top level shaking their fists at us (they later came and joined the picket line); four eighth-grade girls doing pretty much the same thing; and, finally, one of the customer reps apparently had some kind of beef with one of the clerks at the Foot Locker across the way, because they kept yelling stuff at each other in Spanish and making various gestures that I didn't recognize.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
Yeah, that's true, but I don't think they think of themselves as fascists. I guess they're pointing to republican (small "r") roots.
Anyway, after a couple of days, Mr. Comrade went rooting through all of the right-wing videos about what they, apparently, are calling "The Battle of Flagstaff Hill" (where we rallied at the base of the Soldiers and Sailors Monument to the Union dead; after they went marching around the city, we dispersed, they returned and then filmed themselves taking the hill making it look like they had driven us off or something). Got a better chance to hear what they were yelling ("Go get a sex change, you communist!" was probably my favorite) and marvelled at how many of them (the Kekistanis) are, apparently, internet trolls who hate SJWs because they ruin their messageboard fun. Or something.
I remember seeing a video of him talking up Corbyn during one of the Labour Party elections.
And, of course, he was a Bernie supporter.
Also, I usually get robocalls from him every Teamster election.
Danny DeVito's pretty awesome.
Well, I'm not certain if there are even any actually striking AT&T workers in the area because the phones in New Hampshire are FairPoint (strike 2015) and Massachusetts is Verizon (strike 2016), but there's a picket line in Nashua and one in Boston (at retail locations, I believe) so that's where we'll be heading at three.
The DSA kids were having a Theory Work Group on Sunday about union organizing in the Granite State, so I sent them a message telling them they should have it at the picket line. An hour later, they had created a %7D]%22%7D]Facebook event page for the strike. I was pretty pleased with myself (they have a bigger mailing list than we do) but then Mr. Comrade was upset. "We should have done that, we should be the ones mobilizing people for picket lines!"
"People's Front of Judea," I replied, thinking of BNW.
Back to Voting Rights from a couple of pages back.
Readers of my Fun-Timey thread might recognize Professor Sue and the awesomely-named Vladimir Saldaña. Fahmina Zaman I've never had reason to mention; she hangs out with our commie crew sometimes, was a Democratic state delegate last year, and, most importantly, takes some of the most titillating cosplay selfies that I have ever seen (the green woman from Guardians of the Galaxy, that one-eyed woman from Futurama, Velma from Scooby-Doo etc., etc.). I don't know any of the others.
Anyway, this has been brewing for a while. No expert myself, but apparently, at-large elections were one of the mechanisms for defending segregation and were one of the verboten forms of political organization in states formerly affected by the Voting Rights Act's special scrutiny.
To be honest, Soundgarden was, along with Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers, one of the many nineties band teenaged Doodlebug was too snobby for (although I remember digging Badmotorfinger before they blew up), but quickly after being a communist I learned that there were much more important things to be sectarian about.
Anyway, show Chris and Tom Morello did for us three years ago:
[Clenched fist salute]
It really isn't worth answering.
Irontruth [to Guy Humual]: You're judging Obama by his worst actions.
I mean, I remember when Irontruth was hitting Citizen Moonrunner with non sequiturs for a laugh, but...
(Whatever happened to Citizen Moonrunner? Did he get banned again? LazarX, K(e)rensky, all my favorite politrolls are disappearing!)
Over the weekend, the third defendant, Cesar Alex Carrillo, was deported to Mexico on a voluntary departure order which, allegedly, gives him a better chance to get back into the country.
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