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Huh. I was at the Nashua Public Library one time and picked up his series on "Classics of American Literature" out of the free bin (Starts at $399.95 online, I just read). I'm in between Harriet Beecher Stowe and Emily Dickinson, but I still haven't finished Leaves of Grass, so I've been stuck in limbo for a while.
Kirth Gersen wrote:
I don't think so, unless it's some Free State Project thing that popped up recently. Otoh, I've heard about Vermont's secession movement for a while.
After the leafleting/paper sale in Lowell, discovered and stepped into a very cool ye olde usde recorde shoppe and picked up a copy of the Joe Ely album I linked above and The Fugs' self-titled sophomore record.
The discovery of a very cool ye olde usde recorde shoppe in my base of commie operations worries my wallet greatly.
Comrade Anklebiter wrote:
Wikipedia again: The Alabama claims
Going back to the quote from the US State Department:
"...Britain and France remained neutral despite their economic problems, and later in the war developed new sources of cotton in Egypt and India."
That was my understanding, too, that Britain developed Egyptian cotton BECAUSE they couldn't get American cotton. Anyone have any idea if it's true?
Bit from the Cotton page on wikipedia:
"During the American Civil War, American cotton exports slumped due to a Union blockade on Southern ports, and also because of a strategic decision by the Confederate government to cut exports, hoping to force Britain to recognize the Confederacy or enter the war. This prompted the main purchasers of cotton, Britain and France, to turn to Egyptian cotton."
Same page has it that by the 1840s, Indian cotton production was insufficient for British textile needs and, besides, it was inferior to the cotton produced in the American South and the Caribbean.
Page on Cotton Production in Azerbaijan indicates that cotton took off there in the 1860s, again, because of the collapse of American cotton.
I know, I know, it's wikipedia, but it looks like the American slaveowners could have sat back and collected mad bank off their cotton for quite a while if it hadn't been for that pesky war between the states.
Orfamay Quest wrote:
IIRC, one of the Adamses of the Adams Family's job during the Civil War was to run around the docks of [I forget which English port] and point out all the battleships that were being built for the Confederacy and raising hell about them. Don't remember if he caught them all or not.
He was responding to Citizen Coriat who, while responding to the alternate timeline premise, widened it out a bit and mentioned slavery in other times and places. Citizen Dunkerson responded about the Dark Ages. He was probably taken aback when you suggested that he had a rose-colored view of post-slavery conditions for black people because he thought he was just talking about the slavery retards technological development trope in general.
Or at least that's how it looks to me and I've been stoned out of my mind for most of this conversation.
Article that showed up on my Facebook feed when Comrade Samnell and a comrade in New York shared it at the same time!
It's pretty long, haven't read the whole thing yet, but it goes pretty well with the chapter discussing "black matriarchy" I just re-read in bell hooks.
Did some skimming of articles on the "New South" and its attempts to industrialize at the turn of the 20th century. Apparently, it was pretty much a bust.
According to a paragraph summarizing C. Vann Woodward's The Origins of the New South it largely fell apart because the Redeemers were too busy maintaining white supremacy. Another article pointed out that most of the industrial enterprises started then were owned by Northern financiers. The American Tobacco Company, out of North Carolina, seems to be the lone exception.
According to some article about "The Second Industrialization of the American South" on some commie website, there was another spurt of industrialization in the forties--mainly Cold War armaments manufacturing in urban areas like Charleston and Norfolk and, then, later, starting in the sixties or so, Northern companies started moving shop down South, essentially to bust the unions. That article made a great deal about most of Southern manufacturing being located in what the article calls "historically, either northern Butternut belt or southern yeoman upcountry locales," where, among other things, the population had been well-versed in anti-unionism. (Can't help but quote Vance Muse, the founder of the Right-to-Work campaign in Houston in the thirties: ""From now on, white women and white men will be forced into organizations with black African apes whom they will have to call ‘brother’ or lose their jobs." )
So, they got there eventually, anyway.
Well, while I agree that the conditions for the majority of black Americans under Jim Crow wasn't much better than under slavery, I think it's important to point out that poor education wasn't simply a condition of life for the slaves in the antebellum South. There wasn't much public education for poor whites under slavery, either.
Well, as a generality that one's way outta my league, but the American slaveholders seemed to have been a particularly anti-industrializing, anti-modernizing bunch. IIRC, there were a couple of voices for Southern industrialization that were repeatedly and pointedly ignored by the majority of the Southern elite, but maybe they would've been won over given time.
They appeared to not have cared too much for public schools, either. Don't think they had any until Reconstruction. In my recent readings, I keep running into a story about Oakland shipyard companies during WW II setting up schools to teach the sharecropper migrants to read.
We may not have gone full on fascist. Fascism can be seen as an attempt by the elites to create a nationalistic alternative to communism - keep the masses from turning on the bosses by firing them up with racist and patriotic fervor. I have a hard time seeing much communist appeal in a slave country. You can't begin to risk raising the consciousness of the workers at the bottom.
I haven't delved much (or at all) into alternate history books, but I distinctly remember reading the back blurb of one where the Confederate States of America (who had won the war) were overthrown by a Marxist-inspired slave revolt. Maybe with W.E.B. DuBois as president? But I might have that part wrong.
I made fun of Comrade X a whiles back when he posted an article by Adolph Reed and claimed that none of us were "left."
Had never heard of him before, but this article popped across my feed and with the tagline "Identity politics is...the left wing of neoliberalism," you know I had to check it out.
Arturius Fischer wrote:
I can't honestly remember someone saying that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery at all, but many claim that wasn't the MAIN focus.
People attribute to Lincoln a lot of morality and heroic ideals he really doesn't deserve. But then, so much taught about of the civil war is pretty ridiculous. It wasn't about slavery at all, and Lincoln, while not liking slavery himself, (that is for himself) actually fought politically to keep slavery as it was.
I didn't have much to do with it, personally (see: long-standing opinion that environmentalism is boring), but most of the CAJE comrades double as 350 members and they successfully lobbied the City Council of Lowell, Mass. to divest from fossil fuels this evening.
Yay. I guess.
No, no, no. Long-standing opinion that divestment is a fraud notwithstanding, I'm quite proud of them.
Oh, reminds me: Lone-Working-Class-Black-Woman CAJE member's son, who was the subject of our court solidarity work, was recently pulled over by the cops for something or other, threatened with a punch in the face after he refused to talk about his on-going case and was then asked, "What's up with all those protesters at your trial?" Hee hee!
Mr. Comrade got paranoid for a bit, but I was all like, dude, how much weed do you smoke in the park behind the Nigerian Princess' loft complex? Don't you think if they were watching you, they'd already have picked you up?
Still, it's nice to be noticed.
The paragraph where he talks about NASCAR and how most Americans only know about civil engagement from watching Judge Judy--he's reusing material from a separate Facebook Bernie Sanders debate with My Maoist-Inclined-Independent-Red-Historian-Rival-for-La-Principessa's-Affect ions-(Since-Vanquished)!
In general, though, I've found that info-dumping socialist internet articles onto a fantasy role-playing game website to be not as much fun ever since I started actually meeting more and more authors of said socialist internet articles.
Like, this one:
I met this guy a couple of months ago at a public meeting La Principessa and her comrades held at the Astoria Historical Society about Greece and SYRIZA a couple of days after Tsipras (the Greek Bernie Sanders?) stabbed the masses in the back. And he had the exact OPPOSITE position that he argues for in this article. As a matter of fact, within the following month, I watched him get into an epic Bernie Sanders Facebook debate with one of my NH comrades and one of my southern comrades, whom Comrade Kaufman went on to denounce as a "sexist piece of shiznit" because the former admitted to having frequented a Hooters a couple of times.
I mean, with endless entertainment material like that, I hope you all can forgive me for being lax in my posting of late.
And, actually, #BLM activists didn't protest him, per se. They just disrupted two of his appearances, one in Seattle, which I posted about above, and an earlier one at some progressive Democratic confab with that guy who used to run Baltimore.
Apparently, Boston and Worcester #BLM activists were going to do the same thing to Hillary in New Hampshire, but they were spotted by her security team, whisked into a private meeting, and made to look like chumps.
Yeah, the Hillary spin-machine's been pretty slick on that one.
Back in the sixties, Bernie was in SNCC; Hillary was campaigning for Goldwater. Closer to the present, Bernie's got something like a 100% approval rating from the NAACP; Hillary's husband was the guy who put together the finishing touches on the New Jim Crow.
Not that I'm a fan, but still...
Set up a table at Lawrence, Massachussetts' Bread and Roses Festival and ran into Sister Linda Horan who had just come from the New Hampshire Labor Day Breakfast. Last week, Sister Linda announced via Facebook that she has terminal lung cancer.
Quotes from Facebook:
"At the Labor Day Breakfast, NH AFL-CIO President Glenn Brackett presented my dear comrade Linda Horan with the NH AFL-CIO’s Solidarity Award for lifetime contributions to the labor movement. Richly deserved.
[Clenched fist salute]
As for the levees, without more information, I can't even find anything to debunk. I can point at the wiki entry claiming funding, rather than environmental problems:
Obligatory far-left post:
Hint: The war in Iraq was expensive.
They pop up occasionally in Aptheker's American Negro Slave Revolts. Mostly in the colonial years.
I remember one being mentioned in the very D&D-named Great Dismal Swamp of Virginia/North Carolina. Also, the Black Seminoles of Florida, which apparently were a sore spot in relations between the American Republic and the Spanish Empire, got a lot of mention.
Most of them didn't seem to last very long, for the obvious reasons. Of course, the biggest one in Brazil didn't last more than 100 years, either.
I saw your Facebook post, Sam. Lemme know when you blog about Genovese.