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RPG Superstar 2013 Marathon Voter, 2014 Dedicated Voter, 2015 Marathon Voter. 725 posts. No reviews. No lists. No wishlists. 1 alias.


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Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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So my personal favorite item out of all of them was the Movable Rod.

I don't think it's been submitted for critique, so I guess it's inappropriate to comment too much on it, but I thought it was a really clever submission.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Did everyone get their map in by the deadline? Even all 4 of us alternates? Grats us! :-)

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It's a tradition dating back to the very first year.

It's fun, but it's a tiny sample and not predictive. Just something to do, really.

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Jeff Heikkinen wrote:
Owen K. C. Stephens wrote:
It is indeed safest to not make any public statements about your work until after voting is over.

Very well.

What about commenting on the other entries, just the way any other person on the boards might? I've had a couple of people tell me in PMs that this is against the rules, but I've gone over the rules and FAQs and I don't see any rule this violates. The e-mail informing me I'd made the top 32 also encouraged getting involved and being part of the community, which is what I'm trying to do with those particular comments. If there's any problem, though, I will happily delete or edit them.

As far as I know, it's not explicitly against the rules, but in past years some voters have said such comments bias them against the contestant, even when the comments are wholly positive. If they're even slightly critical, the dislike increases. Best not to for that reason alone.

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I disagree rather strongly about whether someone "should" or "should not" need validation to keep at it. People need what they need, and it's different for everyone.

I have no doubt whatsoever that in some cases it can make the difference between someone continuing in a creative endeavor and giving up. I've seen it happen any number of times, with people that went on to become professionals in whatever particular field.

I've been around various creative worlds for most of my life, to a greater or lesser degree. Music, film, writing. I've encountered the idea that 'if you need validation, you aren't going to make it anyway' in each of them, but in my observation I've seen it proved wrong over and over again.

There are some people who are going to make it no matter what. Most people who are going to hit it really big are apparent early on. They have an intense internal drive that's integral to their personality. Those people may not "need" validation (though they quite often crave it intensely).

But the business isn't just superstars, there's a lot of rank and file pros that make the industry work. And some of those people actually do benefit from validation. It really can be the difference in making it or giving up. I've seen it over and over.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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The top 100 list helped me last year.

In the three years of player voting, my progression has gone like this -

2013: Didn't get culled.
2014: Made top 100
2015: Alternate

That top 100 was important to me, it let me know I'd entered something the voters liked and that I should keep trying. I'd enter anyway, but I was more motivated to work at it this year by knowing I'd come close last year.

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Scott LaBarge wrote:
And a question about Round 2: Once our maps are up and public, are we allowed to talk about them, explain what we were thinking, etc.? Or is it like Round 1 and we have to maintain radio silence about our own item? I would think that since everyone knows whose is whose, there shouldn't be any problem in speaking up (judiciously), right?

The rules prohibit you talking about your own entry at all until voting has ended. Don't say anything about it or you'll be disqualified. Yes, this really happens.

The rules allow discussion of other entries, but voters frown on it pretty strongly. I'd say it's not a risk worth taking, but it's not even a risk - talking about other entries will hurt you, even if you're favorable. Don't do it.

Idle chatter amongst other contestants in here is fine, but don't talk about the entries.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Still enjoying the comfy chairs in the Alternate Courtyard.

Wait, did you say cocoa?

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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I plan to comment on every item in the thread now that I have my map entry done.

There sure are a lot of them! Wheeeee!

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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I plan to comment on every item in the thread now that I have my map entry done.

There sure are a lot of them! Wheeeee!

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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I don't know if you guys noticed, but it's really hard to get across a lot of cool ideas with a map and a key and no description.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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This would go a lot faster if I could actually draw.

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Oh my gosh. I'm an alternate!

I'm truly surprised. And quite happy!

:-)

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I honestly have no expectation of making Top 32. I might make top 100, which would be nice, but I don't have any anxiety about it.

So all I'm looking forward to now is to see how many of my favorites did make the Top 32! Woo!

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GM_Solspiral wrote:
mamaursula wrote:
I was young and inexperienced. My next concerts were Aerosmith with The Black Crowes opening and Rush with Primus opening (which I have seen several times, those silly Canadians.)
Black Crowes pro tip: the smaller the venue the better saw them in an auditorium and they were excellent, they sucked in an open air arena... I also detest bands that "jam" as much as they do in concerts. Tom Petty made sure I got my money's worth in that concert though. He may be my favorite live performer.

I saw them a number of times as Mr Crowes Garden in tiny clubs, way back in the day. Then would go back to their house after for the party. At least I mis-spent my youth right, even if I can't hear anything any more. ;-)

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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I just voted for your item. Yes yours.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Thunderfrog wrote:
So is anyone feeling good enough about their item to say "I'm totally in the top 32?"

I'd be genuinely surprised. Maybe top 350 ;-)

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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I agree there were some posts that identified some items a little too well, but the problem is starting to get overstated a bit.

I'd say it was a handful of items that could definitely be identified from particular posts. The vast, vast majority of posts just weren't that specific. And even then some of those were merely neutrally checking off an item -"I saw the one with the longest name ever!", which gives no indication whether someone is voting for or against it. It's just a milestone of sorts.

There's also a tendency, quite natural, for people to think even vague comments are referring to your particular item. Heck, there were plenty of snarky comments that may have been directed at mine. Don't think I didn't have fleeting thoughts that they were. But the odds are very strong that they weren't.

Having said that, there were a few items that were both clearly identified and an opinion offered. That sort of thing is out of place and should be called out when spotted. Let's just keep the amount of it in perspective.

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The less discussion is permitted, the lower the community interest will be.

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I hope all you Champion Voters are voting for my item every time.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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There's a firearm, of all things, that I vote for a lot.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Chris did say in the other thread that this year's cull was deeper than in past years. They felt since it was later in the voting period it made more sense to cut deeper.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Marathon voter and still convinced the level of the average submission is the highest it's ever been.

The great items are still rare, but there's a lot more decent stuff than in years past.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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If you vote long enough, you'll eventually have to vote for that item you swore you'd never vote for. The matchup gods come for us all!

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I dunno, I kinda like that they considered some wielders will have more than 2 hands.

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There's a few items that have neat abilities and are well thought out, but they're for circumstances that just don't arise in most games.

I still upvote them against messy items, but I doubt they have much of a real chance. :-(

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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The reason to cull is to get rid of items that no voters will vote for. At a certain point, it's a waste of voting to rank items that will remain stuck on the bottom.

There's a few of those this year. The incomplete entries, mostly, and maybe some blatant joke items. But I'm not feeling the need for a cull as urgently this year. Far fewer "wasted" matchups in my opinion.

Still, maybe a small cull 7-10 days in is a good idea. Cut the real problems and keep the rest.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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An item that makes me wonder why it doesn't already exist. That's what I want to see!

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James Raine wrote:
I THOUGHT I WOULD BE SAFE FROM CAMPING ITEMS BUT NOOOOOOOOOO

I was kinda impressed when I saw people had managed that this year.

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Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
Clouds Without Water wrote:

I'm downvoting things that are X, but can be used as a magical weapon +1.

They need to be magical weapons first and foremost. Otherwise they're wondrous items you tacked a few extra words onto.

If you look at the PRD, staffs that can be used as a weapon list the weapon bit after the other powers. Rods that can be used as magic weapons list that before the other powers. Usually, but there are a few niche cases.

Or are you talking about items that are not usually a weapon, but the description says they can be? If so, that is a wondrous item in my opinion. I think the confusion may be that items in this category were being rejected in previous years as being a magic weapon, not a wondrous item.

Staves and rod are not what I'm talking about.

I mean things like 'This pencil, which has many magical properties related to being a pencil, also functions as magical stabby +1"

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I'm downvoting things that are X, but can be used as a magical weapon +1.

They need to be magical weapons first and foremost. Otherwise they're wondrous items you tacked a few extra words onto.

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We need more polearms!

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You know, it's true. The weaker stuff this year isn't anywhere near as bad as the worst of previous years. The average quality has gone up.

Most of my keeps are armor, which I did not expect.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Ugh. First obvious joke item.

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Highest price seen so far is just over 1/4 million gp. I'm sure I'll see higher!

Edit- Star Voter!

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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My first was wondrous vs wondrous, but since then they've all been the new types.

I have seen something using the technology rules, so at least one person ventured there!

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Rings with filigree!

Heh.


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I read this whole thing over the last week, first post to the last.

Bravo to all of you, enjoyed every bit of it. Like a really good book with great characters. Nice RP.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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Gossiper's Gourd is the most interesting of the Top 32 to me, and it's even more interesting to see it wasn't on anyone's exit poll.

Historically the contest hasn't had a lot of room for "roleplaying" items, but it seems like the Gourd bubbled up in voting. It was well done, and it filled a certain roleplaying need.

I ended up voting for it more often than not, but I assumed it had no chance of making the Top 32. There were a few other "roleplaying" items I did the same thing with. I'm happy to see one of them get selected. To me that's as it should be. The game isn't all dungeons and combat, after all.

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I'm not raging against the judges and the public, but after all these years I am coming to accept I'm just not very in tune with either. That's fine. I'll just root for the ones I want and hope for the best.

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Garrett Guillotte wrote:
Did the torc of'); DROP TABLE rpgsuperstar; -- really make the Top 32?

"Litttle torcy tables", we call it.

Marathon Voter 2013, Dedicated Voter 2014, Marathon Voter 2015 aka Clouds Without Water

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43 is prime. That should settle it.

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I just voted for YOUR item with less than 10 minutes left. You're welcome.

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One of my favorite objects is one with several snarky comments about it on the other thread. I've voted for it 4 times now. So there.

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I survived the cull! Woohoo!

So at least there's that.

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When I see an entry at 299 or 300 words, I automatically start mentally editing our the unnecessary words. You know, to give them a buffer. Heh.

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*Another* item similar to one of my discarded ideas. Though better than what I had in mind.

That's 3 of those now.

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Samuel Stone wrote:

Good news: My item made it past the cull

Bad news: I noticed an error. It's an exceedingly minor error to be sure, but it's an error nevertheless.

My item has at least 2 errors I noticed when I voted on it. One very minor and one that may matter.

Sigh.

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There have been complaints in this thread that I thought were metaphors, only to find out they were quite literal.

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