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Locking this one up. While it may be unintentional, these sorts of threads often dissolve into edition warring and sniping and general bad feelings all around. It might be a better idea to start out by not comparing to groups or individuals who are actively choosing a different system or style of play, even if they're being not-so-friendly about it (though, if those are baiting or abusive posts on our messageboards, please flag them). It may also be more a more productive thread if it the topic involved something more specific. We welcome all kinds of gamers here with all sorts of preferences. Let's be cool to each other, please :)
Removed some sniping posts. Guys, we're kinda side-eyeing this thread. We'd rather not have a thread derail into a mass of back and forth accusations about how flawed other posters are, how their play style is "bad", or bringing up previous posts/dragging out other post histories. Everyone games differently, not everything works for every group, and we're OK with facilitating different views on paizo.com. Please be cool to each other and stick to discussing the topic, and not posting baiting dissertations about how "wrong" the other person is (or to ignore their posts), which not only derails discussions, but can be hurtful to others.
The Advanced Class Guide update is here! A couple days later than I would have liked, but we're getting closer to a regular update schedule. You also may have noticed that searching now links to the correct pages (this was fixed some time ago, but it looks like in the chaos of everything, nothing got posted). There are some issues that will be remedied before the Monster Codex is added. I know I mentioned the iScroll issue in our last update, but want to be sure that the replacement/alternative method for tables is as completely sound as possible before there's a public change (which is why it's been omitted right now). Some of the suggestions here are great and are up for consideration when this update happens :)
Removed a few posts/replies. We're really giving this thread the side eye right now. There's some serious derail in the last few pages surrounding topics that have not gone well on our forums in recent history (including recent controversy in the video game industry, racism, rape and so on). I'll remind all posters in this thread to keep in mind our Community Guidelines prior to posting. It would be a good idea to keep contentious terms (see: "feminazi") and tangentially related topics out of this thread. This is not to say "do not discuss them", but simply that they're likely better off in a thread concerning them specifically. Please be cognizant that these topics are likely to illicit very strong feelings from all sides, and avoid baiting posts and personal insults where possible if you'd like to have a constructive discussion. Thank you.
Removed a few posts and replies to them. I don't think that digging up past disagreements and contentious threads that are generally unrelated to this topic is going to end up going all that well here. Please understand that comments made towards other people within our community are weighted the same, whether the person is from Paizo, a 3PP, or otherwise, and we'd really rather not have this thread turn into a pile-on or a space to dredge up old negative feelings from all sides. Let's move forward and be cool to each other, please.
Didn't get a chance to post yesterday, but just wanted to drop by and say I did it! We followed up the race with a nice afternoon in Capitol Hill with great food, patios and I even picked up a seasonal pint of ice cream from Molly Moon's (nectarine blondie!). This week is a well deserved off week to be topped off with camping this weekend :)
Removed some posts and responses from over the weekend. Guys, we know that tempers and emotions can run high, especially in discussions concerning rules and mechanics. Please remember that the person you're talking to is still an actual person on the other side of the screen. It may have been missed, but we have revised our Community Guidelines recently, and I invite you to read them over if you haven't yet. In situations like this, it's probably best to remove yourself from the situation, get away from the keyboard and take a breather, and send us an email (firstname.lastname@example.org) if you think a thread requires moderator attention.
Removed a few baiting posts/insults. Guys, it's really not necessary to address content you disagree with by using profanity and elevating the discussion. We get that new editions are going to cause people to butt heads, get frustrated and so on, but this stuff is seriously divisive and doesn't contribute anything positive to the discussion. Challenge ideas, not other people.
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
So no talking about douches in movie theaters in a thread titled Douches In Movie Theaters? Why not just lock the thread?
The issue here is that those posts are in response and quoting other response that were removed for the reasons indicated above. Some of this discussion also spiraled into a more general discussion of politeness outside the context of the threads original premise. We've chosen not to lock the thread because other than that, it's pretty much OK. I apologize if this doesn't jive with everyone, and if there's any important post you'd like recovered to start a new thread about the more general topic of niceties and politeness in the real world, I'm happy to provide you with the text if you send an email to email@example.com.
Removed a post and the resulting derail. We're really not super comfortable about facilitating discussions dissecting/debating how other members of our community interact in their own personal lives (making assumptions about their ability to parent, in this case). The overall discussion that was removed in response to those posts concerning politeness and so forth is likely better off in the Off Topic forum, though. Please remember that the other people you're interacting with here are still people, and to use some of the rhetoric that was lost in the shuffle here: just because someone is being a jerk on our messageboards, doesn't absolve you from responding in kind. Be cool to each other, guys.
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