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Removed a handful of posts. "Flouncing" is not a behavior we're particularly fond of—if you'd rather not read a given thread, you may hide it. Additionally, I've kicked some posts out that are skirting on "you game wrong"-style rhetoric and religion-centric baiting posts that we don't really need here.
Hey folks, I've been completely buried by Humble Bundle/live stream/personal illness madness, so apologies on the delay in a response.
The guidelines for the Product Discussion forum have not really ever been specifically laid out in our Community Guidelines. I think that there's been some confusion and conflicting messaging in terms of how Paizo prefers that those threads should go. We are reading this thread, we do want your feedback on this, and will be regrouping internally to suss out some "house rules" to possibly add to our guidelines page so that they are readily available.
Chris Lambertz wrote:
If anything, I *may* be able to post some tweets to @paizo, but no liveblog is planned.
Update: I am trying to live-tweet via the @paizo account as I can, but switching between stream, Facebook, Tumblr, and Twitter (and internal email) is no easy feat! This day is shaping up to be pretty excellent :)
Removed comments and leaving locked. Folks may choose for whatever reason they decide to exclude certain characters or elements of the products that Paizo publishes from their home games. However, we will not host comments or threads that serve to endorse discrimination/exclusion on the basis gender or sexuality. To host a project like this actively disparages the existence of a wide variety of gamers in our community, as well as the work of our authors, artists, and other contributors. We understand that this stance may be a dealbreaker for some, and that it's possible for our community and game to not be for everyone.
Removed a series of posts, including some lengthy ones (if you'd like to recover that text, please ping firstname.lastname@example.org). The forums are intended to be welcoming to gamers of all stripes and our products reflect inclusion of characters from all sorts of backgrounds. Hosting comments that serve to trivialize the experiences of other gamers or isolate other gamers who are excited to see reflections of themselves (or important people in their lives) in our products adversely impacts the goals we have for this space. Since folks agreed to drop the line of conversation on the last page, I suggest we leave it dropped or address specific concerns in another thread.
Temp locking to sift through this.
EDIT: Upon review, we're going to go ahead and leave this closed for now. The amount of negativity and overall grar popping up over the course of this thread so far doesn't give much confidence that it will not continue, and since we're heading into a long weekend, we'd rather not let it get too hairy.
Our forums are intended for gamers to gather and share their experience, help each other, and generally have fun. There's been a lot of talking past each other, personal insults, flouncing, and accusations of gaming "wrong" here, which really doesn't contribute to the goals we have for this space. I'd suggest taking a moment to read over our Community Guidelines (maybe taking a break away from the keyboard) and revisiting topics like this with those in mind.
Removed a handful of baiting posts and their responses. It's divisive and unhelpful to assign derogatory labels to gamers who don't play the game the way you'd prefer, bring hotly debated real-world political issues into the thread, or to derail the conversation to air grievances about our organized play program. Let's also dial back the passive aggressiveness (and not-so-passive-aggresiveness) here.
EDIT: If you feel a post was missed, please flag it or contact email@example.com. We'd prefer to not derail the thread with debating moderator decisions. Thanks!
Removed a handful of elevated posts. Folks, we suggest avoiding the use of objective statements such as "you're wrong" or derailing the conversation to be a debate about the very nature of mysteries (another thread for this is more appropriate if that's something people want to talk about) in a thread where the topic is discuss the general opinions people have about this aspect of our campaign setting. It's also unhelpful to call others trolls or make personally abusive statements at each other.
Moved to the Suggestions/House Rules/Hombrew subforum and removed a series of posts. Folks, the intent of this thread is to discuss what changes people would like in a new edition, not to debate whether one *should* exist. If you want to discuss the latter, there are other threads in which to do this.
Please see the email registered to your paizo.com account. We do not edit posts as a method of moderation.
It's taken a bit longer to get to this thread as I'd have liked but: change is inevitable in any online community. As our hobby (and Paizo's outreach/product lines) expands, so too does the pool of folks coming to our site. And, with most hobbies, devotion and interest waxes and wanes over time. You are not wrong that the environment on our forums has shifted, and having watched it very closely, it's a very different place from 3, 5, or 10 years ago (though, admittedly, that was before my time here). The best way to see the change you want in a place like our forums is to participate in a way that you'd like to see (IE: engaging positively, offering advice/suggestions, working with our moderation team when things get hairy, and so on).
As an aside: it does look like the issue has been resolved between the folks involved, but singling out individuals can be a fairly volatile method of expressing your concerns with a community at large. Had we been more on top of addressing this thread, it may have been removed altogether for that reason.
Should you ever need to actually "vent" about our community or express concerns over an individual poster, emailing firstname.lastname@example.org is a better venue that our public Website Feedback subforum.
While we appreciate the enthusiasm from members of our community whenever this suggestion is brought up, at this time we are not considering volunteer moderators for paizo.com. The best way you can help our team is by utilizing the methods of reporting posts we have (flagging, emailing email@example.com, or posting in this subforum) and allowing our staff the opportunity to review rather than engaging the problematic posts. We're also open to suggestions for our forums and Community Guidelines in general pretty much all the time, and appreciate the input we received from folks.
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
I was being 100% facetious. I also just finished Star Trek: Insurrection last night (just... wat) so my grip on humor is a little :\ and I kinda want to toss the entire cast of characters into a very dark pit... maybe with fire... and endless falling... possibly in an abandoned mine...
THEY TOOK HIS BEARD OFF WAT WHY UGH GO AWAY