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I don't think that I am necessarily over-thinking it... I missed a lot of the history of the game during the years that I spent playing Rolemaster and HERO/Champions, so some things are just not inherently obvious to me...

The reason I was thinking about all of this is that I have just started running a campaign with a much lower level of magic in it than the standard game seems designed for. I have said that all magic items must be commissioned (or found); the listed cost just seemed to low for how powerful an item it can be.

I agree that it is a very niche item, but it's one that the PCs would benefit immensely from as they try to build fortifications and a city to serve as the seat of power for the independent duchy they have found themselves responsible for.

Thanks for your help!

Okay, so I was trying to figure out exactly how the Lyre of Building only costs 13,000 gp.

The construction requirements say:

* Craft Wondrous Item feat (caster level = 3rd)

* Fabricate Spell (5th level spell, min caster level = 9th)

* 6,500 gp in materials

So, when I look at the Table for Estimating Gold Piece Values (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#Table-Estimating-Magic-Item-Gold-Piece -Values), it says that "Use-activated or continuous items cost Spell level x caster level x 2,000 gp". But, that can't be accurate, because it comes out to 90,000 gp.

Then I notice that items that require a skill to use should be reduced in cost around 10%. This also cannot be right, because that only takes it down to 81,000.

Then I notice that charged items have a base cost of "Divide by (5 divided by charges per day)". Well, it has a single charge a week for the building component, and a daily charge for the attack negation effect. So, how to cost that out?

If we use the attack negation effect, the equation becomes Adjusted Base Cost = Base Cost / (5/1 charge/day) which would be 18,000 gp. Closer, but still not right.

If we use the building effect, it essentially has 1/7th of a charge per day (it can only be used once a week). The equation becomes Adjusted Base Cost = Base Cost / (5/(1/7 charge per day)), which comes out to 2,571 gp. Clearly, this isn't the right approach either.

So, I don't get it. What am I doing wrong?

I no longer wish to purchase these dice.

Thank you for the update. Please move the dice to my sidecart.

I know that you guys had snow last week - can I get an estimate on when this might ship? My order history says that that it should ship sometime in the next 4 - 11 business days. Since it typically takes a week or more to arrive, is it really possible that I won't see this order until Feb 14th?