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I already have the old AP and to be honest i'm wondering whether i should spend 40 bucks just to have an updated version of books I already bought.

Specially as we are about to finish AP5. OK so all stats have been updated to PF... and ?

Is it REALLY worth it ?

KM I thought so ... although this is not really earth shaking but to be honest I havn't really read it so I don't know ... But I believe that's a valid proposal. ^^.

@Midnight Angel and Jenner : I agree that it's a risk for Paizo for previous AP there are plenty of solutions : Play it "before" the shaking events happened, play it in another part of the world which wasn't touched by the changes, set it in a "parallel" universe where nothing was changed (ie sort of "reset" golarion).

There are plenty of ways it can be handled.

IMHO Paizo have been well known for their excellent AP contents, they brought mature contents but now I got the feeling that the AP are more or less "the same". I mean the settings are different but in the end it's all the same kind of quest.

Bring on more epic APs (by epic I don't mean that it has to be higher levels than usual, I mean heroic ... You "meet" gods, go to other planes, play with the laws of the universe)....

Come on Paizo take risks. I know you can. :D

Most of the APs I read/play are usually the same in the end.

You saved the world such that nothing change in the world of Golarion. I think this is quite boring.

What I'd like in an AP is that once you've finished it, the world is not the same anymore.

Players could have unmade kings, build up armies that invade other kingdom, Islands have risen from the sea, others may have sunk, sent some gods to oblivion, whatever. But I want my player to feel truly heroic and that their name is blessed or cursed by the whole Inner sea.

So far I didn't see any of these stuffs in the AP but I've only read a few.

I understand that Paizo doesn't want to cause chaos and mayhem in their lovely world but this is becoming too dull.

could you lead me to an AP which has what I was explaining above ?

We are about to finish book 5 of RotRL (2 years and a half after starting the AP).
The first 3 books are top class, the fourth isn't so good, 5th is good but is a big big dungeoncrawl which can easily be improved on the sins thing.

The bad things in RotRL are the hooks between each books are quite lame.

Each BBEG killed at the end (more or less) has a diary with the name of the boss to go to.

So that should be changed to make better links between each books

WOTC closed contents. That means no one except WOTC can use this concept ?

Ooooh s@*! !

For these weapons of legacy, the powers were kinda meh, but i liked the personal costs. All you have to do is house rule it a bit to make it more fancy.

That's the one... Weapon of legacy. It was great for RP as they had to do some small quests to unlock the powers. The ideas were great and it was giving a really good flavour as you had a single weapon improving over the levels and not a +2 sword which was replaced as soon as you had a +3 and replaced as soon as you had a +4. and so on...

In the old days one of my friend had his sword named "Stormbringer". Yeah ok it wasn't original but at least everyone knew how bad it was. He kept it all the way to lvl 17. then we stopped...

So no weapons of legacy for PF so far, not even 3PP? Hey if some PF dude comes around...

PLEASE PATHFINDERIZE THE WEAPONS OF LEGACY FROM 3.5 !!! PLEAAASE PRETTY PLEAAAAASE ;o)

I remember in the 3.0 or 3.5 versions having read about magic weapons which were increasing in power as the lvl of the character increased.

I remember thinking "wahooo this is just great" and loved the concept.

Is there any equivalent in pathfinder and where can i find this with Paizo or 3PP ?

Thanks

One of my player is a flowing monk with crane style.

And as a DM I hate him. He's got AC in the 36 range with ennemies around him so he's hard to hit AND he can avoid one melee attack free.

EDIT : he's lvl 14

Thanks JAmes for the very friendly feedback. Just for the updated AP6 I may buy this book.
I want to see how this Karzoug has been updated so bad ^^

Mechalibur wrote:

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Hello James.

I suppose you will try to recover from Gencon.
I saw that adventurers are expected to be lvl 17 at the end. They were supposed to be lvl 16 before. That means more encounters then ?

Basically we are about to finish AP5 and I'd like to play an updated version.

What has changed then since they reached one lvl higher ?

Thanks James.

I just can't wait to see those minis. Unfortunately we are allready in AP5 Sins of the savior and I hope that by august we will have jumped into AP6 (we are not very fast as we all have our own schedules and it's not easy to play together).

Anyhow I just can't wait to know what are the figs inside.

I may also buy it just as a collection and will probably use them for other scenarii.

When can we have a chance to have more photos and know what is going to be inside.

BTW: 60 minis or 40 is not so much of an issue as I believe that U need that many to represent a WHOLE AP.
Although i understand this is a steep price for a lot of people.

I'm sorry to go off topic here and this isn't a criticism, but what is the the source of using the word "ideal" in place of "idea?"

I've seen it in a fair number of places and it seems that the people who do it do it pretty consistently, so I don't think it's a typo. Is it a non-native English thing?

Ideal as .... Ideally.

Unless i'm mistaken of course it's perfectly English ... Unless you have another ideal idea... ;o)

I have a question. Where does it say that hurting yourself (1D8 + ST) on failed will save does not take any actions. All actions usually take some time (complex, std, free whatever....).

My understanding is that hitting yourself would be a std action ?

EDIT : OK i've seen the FAQ ... But well what a terribly written spell.

Anyhow i've never seen a spell where passing the ST is worse than failing...

My idea would be that casters would suffer much more than a fighter type (not fighters as they have plenty of feats already).

A caster would take feats like metamagic for example BUT they need high levels of spells. So you'll end up with Wizards not able to cast many spells for such a looooong time.

Finally will the monsters have additional feats or not ? If not then you will need to put stronger CR to compensate for the high number of PCs feat. 2 consequences ... Ur players will then upgrade faster, It will be very deadly for players as they will have little HPs compared to the NPC.

A country of chocolate and banks and chocolates in Golarion ?

Gnomes land ? (not kidding)

P.S. apart from that, not all countries have a golarion land.

One of my player is a monk with Insane AC. Something like 37 or so.

He's got the crane style and can block the first attack that hits him + increase in Wis + Monks robes + Ring of protection + a good dext.

He's lvl 13 and is impossible to hit. He also took a feat from 3PP which allows him to dodge an attack by making a high acrobatic check (and god knows they ARE good in acrobatics).

This bugger is simply impossible to kill (as he also got high Saving throws being a monk).

Who said monks sucked ?

The advantage is we pay in dollars. My FLGS in France charges the same price ... in euros. So all in all that's the same price.

Waooow ... I'm impressed that it gets so much fuss...

Now Since i have done it for other characters, I allow crafting at half price for starting characters.

Starting wealth, starting gold are all so similar and it's almost surely the same wording from the boxed set version of D&D. (I'm sure it was already in AD&D 1).

The player invested feats (Craft) to get more for his money instead of taking other feats ... So be my guest.

That's what these feats are for...

In fact do as you want in your own campaign.

Cheapy wrote:

Isn't freeing all slaves no matter what chaotic, anyways?

I thought the Andorans were CG.

No matter what? I'd say so... taking the opportunity to free a slave in a land where it's no longer legal... I'd say that's Lawful.

That's actually playing to the strength of a LG character IMO - using the law to do as much good as possible.

Unless the paladin is appointed as a legal authority he has no right to punish the slave owner or free the slave. The same way your neighboor cannot arrest you because you drove too fast= (hopefully because it would be Chaos)

So i'd say freeing the slaves would be a really good act but a chaotic one still.
A lawful act would be to contact legal authorities of the land who can judge lawfully the illegal slave owner.

This is truly lawful good...

I totally agree with Mr Fishy Kydeem and Kings Tears.

This could be the root to the group destruction if not handed maturely.

Did you talk with your fellow player (out of game) to tell him how your character feels about it and how he could behave.

Is this going to be a GMPC? Typically glass cannons are unfavorable as GMPCs, since they get the spotlight with their glorious killing techniques and require support. It can make the PCs feel like the backup. I'd suggest a GMPC that fills the support role instead.

He looks pretty well built for what he does, I'd lose Mobility though. There has to be something more useful.

Completely agree with what you say.

Whether I run this AP or run my own home made campaign, I am very keen to have information about pirates in and around the inner sea.

Nevertheless it's a refreshing idea... VERY MUCH. I am in to have it.

Interesting idea yeah...

To be honest I was quite pissed off that the wizard was the BOSS of one of the BBEG and all of his minions.

If I remember well, everyone in the runeforge stop aging...

So how come Vraxeris had to use clones to stay immortal if he didn't age ? And then one can find his dead body (probably dead of old age) ?

For your information, I recently rewarded one of our player with an additional feat (any).

He is usually taking all notes, always at the gaming table almost everytime and takes time to explain to those who forgot or were not here what happened last time (since we only play once every 3 weeks or so).

So yeah you can give away anything ... Provided it doesn't break the balance of course.

Hello all.
I just want to make sure...
The BBEG has thrown a spell to the spellcaster with "spell turning' running.
So looks like the spell (dominate) is thrown back to BBEG.

I believe the BBEG can roll for DC.
Which DC shall I use ? The BBEG's original DC (I think that's the right one but I'd like to be sure) or the DC "as if" the caster had casted this spell ?

Thanks a lot for your kind help.

I agree. Where is seduction an act of chaos ?

Why couldn't paladins be lustful (not breaking any laws of course)?

It's more of a christian heritage.

Now it's all a matter of personal preference anyway. IF DM agrees then it's all fine.
I would agree... Just to change from the usual Paladin cliche.

I have always strongly disliked gameplay where tracking mundane items like this mattered, unless it was a critical "lost at sea" or "trapped underground" type adventure where use of resources was a key game component. Or if you had a player who really wanted that level of detail (I once had a player who wanted me to detail all the types of coins he stole, he was really into it)

Bottom line: and archer has enough arrows to shoot at any given time. I presume he or she replenishes them when necessary or retrieves them during battle in some way. Unless the arrows are magic or special, then we track them.

I dont want to track arrows or ammo or torches or other things like that.

That's not why I play D&D (or Pathfinder). We've got plenty of other stuff to track.

Completely and wholeheartedly agreed....

I remember a post of a guy who wanted to sell the poison in a poison pool trap making huge cash ... in theory.

Then it's up to you but I think it was JAson who said that was abusing RAW and it's either you try to have an adventurer's life or a business man life.

If I was GM I would make you RP the selling of all these stuffs and find customers and so on.... Meanwhile, all the other characters are waiting. Or going for adventuring....

There are a lot of ways to make cash by RAW. But Pathfnder is not a game of business... It's an adventuring game.

Open question question as a DM.

One of my players has been suggested(using the "Suggestion " spell) by succubus to strip off his armour such that he can show his powerful muscles.
Another has been suggested to go see the BBG by himself and bow before him.

Would you consider these requests as reasonnable ?

Can the players do something else meanwhile.
Can the stripping off player fight meanwhile ? Can he cast spell ?
Do anything ?
Can the other one moving to the BBG cast spells while moving ?

What happens if the one who cast suggestion hurts the target ?

Thanks a lot for your help

I'll tell you what happened in MY game in the same situation (gobs from RotRL).

The paladin killed a few babies and let a couple of mother live and then decided to burn down the place (with all the gobs inside (mother and children)).

Now I decided (being the DM) that I would not let him go with it.

In my games (and I perfectly understand that people could have different opinions).
Not many are really true evil or true good... may be not even outsiders.
As an angel could fall and a demon could redeem at some point.

As i said that is my opinion in my game. I don't say it's true or false. But it's good enough for me as i like worlds painted in gray.... Not black and white.

ANYWAY... paladins are supposed to be perfect exemples of somebody trying to do goodness and allowing redemption if possible.

Therefore he was punished for a few weeks by his god (IOmedae) and got no special powers from his god all this time.

the player perfectly understood the message. He got his powers back when I gave him the opportunity to save a goblin baby from a destroyed camp.

He then put the baby to the orphanage and got no news back.
I intend to bring him back as a crazy alchemist bomb thrower. Trying to do as much good as possible but LOVING to destroy things (Either true Neutral or Chaotic good).

Anyway I know my players are going to love it and they loved the opportunity (RP and so on).

My advice: Think of what could be cool for YOUR GAME and your players.
We are all here to have fun and there are no right or wrong I think.

Chewbacca wrote:

jwood314 wrote:

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Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter.

Your three-year-old has farm animals? Isn't it too much responsibility for the kid?

Ba-da-bing! :D

Chewbacca wrote:

Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).

Other side of the Rhine? So you're an Eastsider?

Cheeky Monkey... I'm on the west side of the Rhine as I smell of garlic and eat snails and horse meat everyday and wear a silly little beret with a stripes shirt.

I didn't read all the topic but to answer to the OP :
"Because it could be a cool NPC/Bad guy option ?".I know it's not such a good choice but does it REALLY matter

Also ... If a player says "I want to be a separatist of cult X but I don't want to take the archetype ".

then I say "Fine ... the choice is all yours"

No problem for me AT ALL : So the rule is here... Take it or leave it. You are the master.

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Farms animals ? I use the ones from my 3 years old daughter. They are roughly the ideal size.... Roughly I said though the chickens are more Small Size than Tiny but well .... I'd rather have something that fit 99% of my fights as said by Kaye yoss (a wise man if you ask me although living on the other side of the Rhine ;o) ).

[ I will note that these cases may not be as big as you think, though... WizKids tells us the Heroes & Monsters case will be 13.5 x 12.5 x 8.5 in, and will weigh about 4.5 pounds.

WHAT ??? 60$ Shipping to France for such a small case. US posts are rippers I'm telling ya ;o)

I looked at the lich and the Medusa and I'm amazed by the quality.

The gnome fighter looks quite .... unexciting.

As I'm a very messy boy, will the case be able to hold the minis after being opened. Or will I need a new box to put all these new figs ?

I know I should have asked before placing my orders but will the AP subscription give me 15% of the case price even if i'm a battle case subscriber ?

EDIT: The FAQ was pretty clear .... dooooh
I'm a Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber. Do I get the Pathfinder Advantage discount on my case? Do I get it on the case premium?
Yes, the Pathfinder Advantage discount applies to Pathfinder Battles products whether you buy them as part of a subscription or not. Because the Pathfinder Advantage discount is always off of our normal list price, though, it does not stack with the Pathfinder Battles subscription discount you're already receiving on the case premium

I looked at the lich and the Medusa and I'm amazed by the quality.

The gnome fighter looks quite .... unexciting.

As I'm a very messy boy, will the case be able to hold the minis after being opened. Or will I need a new box to put all these new figs ?

Treantmonk wrote:

It's not going to be a problem, no different than if players didn't pick those classes in the first place.

I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. If I say that there's 9th level cleric NPC living in Hobbiton, that means that Hobbiton will have guaranteed access to Raise Dead, Plane Shift and Commune. Whereas if I say that there's a 10th level oracle NPC living in Hobbiton, it will not have guaranteed access to those spells. That could have a significant impact on the game world, I think.

IMHO I would never say there is a 9th lvl cleric in Hobbiton.

As far as we know, the black dragon is not included in the price. It will be something that is available later for purchase to people who purchased a case, and maybe others.

If you are an AP subscriber you get the 15% pathfinder advantage discount, which brings the price to $233.74. You also get a 10 dollar discount on shipping because you will be spending $100 or more.

Thanks Grotnar !

The shipping price is horrible to Europe... ;o(

At first I wasn't too keen to pay 270+ Dollars for minis all at once. Then I realised I got more than 100 Minis for that at the amazing price of 2.7 Dollars each !!
Wahooo.
Good thing and bad thing we have to wait till December to save the cash.

Good
I can save some cash my wife is going to kill me (WHAT ? YOU PAID 300 DOLLARS FOR THIS BOX OF PLASTIC SOLDIERS ? lol )

Bad
I HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEN !

Question :
Is the black dragon included within the price ?
When I put it in preorder I can't get the 15% of subscribers (Well I'm not a subscriber yet but that would push me to become an AP subscriber). So is it normal ?

ANYWAY I LOVE IT. And I love the randomized thing also. I got plenty of metal figs than i can't be asked to paint... Call me lazy ... or a busy man ;o)

Yeeeehaaaa !

I really can't wait for this one !!!
We need a bit of fresh air and piracy !

And Richard Pett REALLY thrilled me in the second AP of Rotrl....

Pretty much that. Saying "never" is never a good idea...

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Reminds me of my communication lecturer some time ago who said:

"Somebody who says "never" or "always" is always trying to manipulate you .... always ...."

:o)

One player of mine exterminated some goblin tribes in RotRL. Including females and babies.
He was a paladin of iomedae. I decided as a DM that he needed to be punished as although monsters manual and rules tend to give us a black and white picture... There are many more greys.

As a paladin he had to strongly believe in redemption, honor (there s no honor in killing a baby) and all the chivalry code that goes with it.

So he lost his Paladin powers for a while ... Until he saved some goblins babies from raids from less scrupulous soldiers.
He then had to raise the goblin child according to Iomedae teachings.

Therefore :
- For RP it was great fun to learn the goblin not to bite everyone and set fire to everything.
- Alignment in my world is made of grey.
- Why couldn't we have a Paladin Troll (they met one in my game).
- The paladins though shall follow a rather strict code of conduct.

Chewbacca wrote:

Let's hope that they won't go to the polyhedral outsiders which were in AD&D... (don't remember their names).

God they were the worse monsters I had ever seen. I can't believe I paid for these.

I loved the modrons when I was a kid; I thought they had a goofy kind of charm.

P.S. What is happening to the word "worst"? It seems to be disappearing from the English language...

So sorry hogarth.

English is not my mother tongue (i'm a frog) and I typed too fast (it's usually not the kind of mistake I make).
I hope you will excuse me.

Nevertheless I hope my message was clear. although I understand that others have different opinions...

I just don't want to go the way 3.5 went (i.e. zillions books and rules and so on). Pathfinder is already getting too complicated. Not for my understanding but for the good flow of the game (see combats once you're above lvl 12 ans it's getting even worse after that).

Bestiary are good but OK well after a couple i'm fed up with them.

I'm also the kind of guy who could modify and mix existing monsters. So really it's totally dull for me to have X bestiary.

Let's hope that they won't go to the polyhedral outsiders which were in AD&D... (don't remember their names).
God they were the worse monsters I had ever seen. I can't believe I paid for these.

Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus wrote:

RAW you keep your mental stats, this is also RAI. If you didn't they this spell would be very hampering as the races who got mental stats would suffer a lot.

Ouch.

I hadn't noticed that the racial modifiers were removed an re-applied for the physical stats only.

In my case. I remove and reapply physical AND mental traits.

This spell is too disturbing and unbalancing. Resurrection or raise dead or the other hand, do not work if you die of old-age.

St Petersbourg ? Waooow

Mother Russia dance of the tsars ....

Thanks a lot all for your quick input... I was gone in archipelagos myself for a few weeks so couldn't answer. Now that I'm back I'm looking at your feedback with a lot of interest.
Your ideas of "not so" Savages could be also used. My players don't mind being a bit railroaded ...

For the galley part not being fun, I remember I had great fun in a Cyberpunk game trying to escape from a high security prison. We didn't all make it but it was fun to everyone... What I want is to remove the usual feeling you get in dungeons.

I want to surprise my players and disturb them... Let them be the prey and not the hunter for once. Really struggle for life...