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Caineach wrote:CBDunkerson wrote:That may have been true for the organizational level, but its not how the people who were early fans actually saw it. It grew too large, too quickly, for the message to be consistent, so a lot of people saw it as something very different from what it eventually coalesced into. Some early Tea Party rhetoric was very similar to Occupy Wall Street. After about 6 months though, a lot of people left because the inmates were running the asylum.Charon's Little Helper wrote:One thing about something which started (didn't remain for long) as grass-roots as the Tea Party is that it isn't hard for any group who wants some clout to grab the name.
There never was a 'grass roots' Tea Party.
Rather, the Tea Party was a Koch Industries front group founded in 2002 (as a splinter of their 'Citizens for a Sound Economy' front group dating back to 1984), that was partially co-opted by Ron Paul's campaign for a few months in 2007, then further grown by Koch through support from their 'Americans for Prosperity' front group...
By the time it achieved any sort of national recognition (i.e. February 2009) it had been a corporate run front for nearly a decade.
I'm not sure where you put the 6 months point. A lot of people may have left, but more kept flooding in for the first few years at least.As far as I can tell the "Tea Party" name first got broadly applied to the Tax protests in 2009. At that point it was already a weird amalgamation of Rand Paul supporters with those stirred up by Palin. Rand had earlier events linked to the Boston Tea Party, but it didn't really become the name of the movement until 2009, by which point it was already far from the Rand roots. Fox picked it up and Beck started promoting it and we were off to the races.
A lot of the early rhetoric was anti-banker and especially anti-bailout. That's really the only similarity to Occupy that I ever saw.
I pulled the 6 month number out of my ass from when I remember my libertarian friends who loved the movement start to flee it. I first heard about it from them, not news, and I wasn't really paying attention to politics at that point, so I can't really say. By the time Palin was involved, they had all already become completely disillusioned with it.