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If I were going to do anything, I'd give the guy grappled a small circumstance modifier to his CMD, per an invisible creature in a grapple. But as for a flat 50% miss to maintain, that's silly. You've already got a hold on the guy, you FEEL him. It doesn't matter that his image looks a couple inches in another direction.
Magus Pierce wrote:
Starting at 2nd level, a brawler can make a brawler’s flurry as a full-attack action. When doing so, a brawler has the Two-Weapon Fighting feat when attacking with any combination of unarmed strikes, weapons from the close fighter weapon group, or weapons with the “monk” special feature. She does not need to use two different weapons to use this ability.
Smashing board away.
Driver 325 yards wrote:
I agree that there *shouldn't* be table variance, but simply accede that there *may* be. I have seen enough arguments trying to apply defensive abilities in the worst order of operations possible (DR before Incorporeality, Vulnerability before Resistance) that I'm simply acknowledging that out there there is almost assuredly someone that does not agree with you and me.
In the order of operations, logical flow to me is Saving Throw, Damage mitigation not-DR/Resistance (incorporeality, for example), Resistance/DR, Vulnerability.
So in this case I would rule that Resilient Brute triggers first, splitting the damage, which is then reduced as applicable by each DR. It's an ability that you get to use at most 2x a day, it's not game breaking, not even really as powerful as a Destined Bloodrager's anti-crit ability.
RAW, there is no absolutely spelled out order of application of variables that affect damage, so you're going to have to deal with a bit of table variance. I feel my order of operations makes the most sense, however.
You're missing the point. A PRE-requisite is something that a creature is required to have PRIOR to being able to SELECT said Feat (which you actually quoted but didn't seem to notice). The very prefix PRE disallows you from taking Final Embrace without first having constrict. It's the same reason you couldn't take a feat with a prerequisite of Diplomacy +10 that gave you a +2 to Diplomacy if your Diplomacy was only +8.
I agree. Especially when you consider that most Inquisitors are going to have a Sense Motive check so insane that it replaces most spells anyway.
How, exactly, is a maximum of 4 damage, halved, getting through even wood's 5 hardness, to say nothing of stone's 8?
Not really, Rise of the Runelords gives you decent chunks of downtime. And that really takes a day a most. And even if you do end up having to do something you have plenty of 1-4th level spells to fall back on.
As long as you can get back to Varisia in the same day, but I agree about Runelords having large chunks of downtime. I wasn't referring to that AP in particular for the repercussions part (though there are a few timetables in that game that my players have borked by trying to abuse 15 minute adventure days.)
Ah I see. Yes I suppose if you're willing to pester deities with where you can find the BSF's next sword, that would help. It's a bit dangerous (Ability checks stay relevant much longer than other checks). It's also a lot of your high level spells just to buy things. Which means you're likely not adventuring that day. Which can (not always, but can) have its own repercussions.
Plane Shift to where, exactly? City of Brass on the Fire Plane I suppose would work, no sure of any other Metropoli elsewhere. Better be prepared though, Plane Shift isn't exact.
Teleport to where, exactly? Sure you can keep trying until you hit a place you've "seen once," but this invites potential mishaps, and wastes time, which as I mentioned can become a factor in Runelords.
I'll admit ignorance and say I'm not sure what Contact Other Plane is meant to accomplish in this scenario.
On a tangent, Anniversary Edition Karzoug is dangerous enough that I think even two full casters in a party of four would have a hard time keeping him under control. That first round if he wins Init is just brutal.
Matthew Downie wrote:
Sure, they do. But how many settlements are metropolis level in Golarion? Maybe 12-20? That's 12-20 shots at your item, on a table that is quite frankly so vast that your chances of any specific item you want being available are so slim that it's like winning the lottery.
Take Rise of the Runelords for example. The biggest settlement you come across in that entire campaign is Magnimar. Magnimar's base GP limit is 12,800 gp. You literally cannot find even a +4 stat item in Magnimar if it's not rolled as a specific item for that month. And you can get to this point as early as 7th level. This is for an AP that spans 18 levels by the end. So for more than half of the PCs adventuring lives, they have to juggle trying to have things commissioned (Runelords has some decent time tables in place) or just roll with what they find in monster loot.
If you want magical items to feel special, there is already a mechanism for that. It's far less immersion breaking to me to just say that a medieval civilization with low magic would have medieval settlement sizes (ie, large cities being the absolute maximum size) and using that than creating specific and arbitrary restrictions.
I feel like I'm a broken record here but I really feel like all these ideas about the rules allowing for Magic Mart Syndrome are a consequence of people never reading or enforcing settlement limitations. A +5 magic sword is also 50,000. If you're going by the rules, there *might* be one available (from the specific major item random roll) but if not, a player isn't going to be able to just buy one, even in a Metropolis (unless that metropolis has some traits that give it a decent boost to its base gp value). Many of these homebrew attempts I see have an incredible onus on them. I feel if many just really read the settlement rules and enforced them, they wouldn't need convoluted systems of magical item distribution.
Simon Legrande wrote:
Except the world isn't, if you're using the settlement rules. Even a metropolis is only going to have a handful (around 1d4ish) of items worth more than around 36,000 gold a month. Also, CL is irrelevant for crafting 99% of the time. It's one of the most ignored requirements (which only raises the DC by 5).
I just use the actual rules. Not even Metropoli have a 36000gp base limit. That means even something as minor as a +6 stat item either has to be specifically commissioned (meaning getting a crafter to devote 36 days to one item), rolled as part of the random major items of the month, or just found.
Magic Mart Syndrome is largely a product of not using the settlement rules correctly.
A 17th level Master Summoner with the Ring of Agathion summoning putting out 1d3+1 leonals is an average of 416 healing per leonal for one use of your ~16/day SLA. On top of pounce, 3(1d3+1) Walls of Force, unlimited fireballs(1d3+1)/hold monsters, and protective auras on all of them to shield your teammates. And if you have SGM, they all have Diehard. It's a long way off, but definitely something that can come in handy at the end of an AP.
I did a quick and dirty comparison back during the revised playtest and came to the same conclusion. Single class Draconic Bloodrager is just flat better than PrCing into DD. Taking EH for Abyssal or Orc and you're losing very little stats but getting a huge bloodline payout for not splitting.
Kirin Strike is a trap. It takes a swift action to enter Kirin Style, a swift action to study the creature, and a swift action to deal the damage. Which means you don't deal that extra damage before round 3. Not worth it at all.
Elmar Thonsson wrote:
A switch hitter doesn't use two weapon fighting. It uses two handed fighting, which requires Power Attack, and if you want to have a full round worth of melee attacks, Quick Draw, that's it. You don't move as a switch hitter. You stand in one spot, pelting the enemy with arrows until they finally reach melee, and then anyone still standing gets a 2 hander to the face. It is literally the basest of character concepts, and ranger pulls it off easily.
Darksol the Painbringer wrote:
The line was removed from the PRD and from new editions of the Core book. That section now reads
A wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells (except those from his prohibited schools, if any; see Arcane Schools) plus three 1st-level spells of his choice. The wizard also selects a number of additional 1st-level spells equal to his Intelligence modifier to add to the spellbook. At each new wizard level, he gains two new spells of any spell level or levels that he can cast (based on his new wizard level) for his spellbook. At any time, a wizard can also add spells found in other wizards' spellbooks to his own (see Magic).
So, I figured I'd bring this up now so perhaps we can get some clarification, but everyone keeps talking about using fervor to swift action cast spells. Well, the wording on this particular part of Warpriest actually is written extremely poorly and potentially in a way that RAW does not actually allow that.
As written, it sounds like you're allowed to use the use of fervor as a swift action to cast the spell. As in, you have to spend the swift, use the fervor, then cast the spell using the standard spell cast time with the bonuses that it doesn't provoke, uses no somatics, and doesn't require a free hand. Based on Jason's posts it's obvious what the intent is supposed to be, but the way it is written can very easily be misinterpreted.
The main thing with the Arbiter is his perfect memory. That ability has no theorycraft weight but is 10 times more awesome in actual play than scroll use.
Unless I'm missing something, it's the Cassisian (an angel) that has perfect memory, not the Arbiter. And you can have the Cassisian rest on your head, which is hilarious to me.
As a fellow adventurer, I'm not going to be very welcoming of a substandard companion into the group where they don't start being effective until 3rd level, or until they have a specific magic item or set of items...but perhaps people don't play levels 1 and 2 anymore
Or perhaps (other) people understand that not every class comes online right from first level (wizard/sorc anyone?) and that this is a cooperative game and that not everyone starts out as complete strangers to each other even at level 1 and FFS 10 Str is f!#+ing average. I have an Evangelist Cleric that started at a 10 Str at level 1 and is now level 9 and got by just fine. (I use an excel sheet that auto calculates encumberance as well.)
Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:
I would almost always advise a Master Summoner with either Eldritch Heritage Abyssal or Summon Good Monster over a Sacred Summons cleric, but for the bolded reason I second this idea.
I'd recommend Evangelist with Heroism subdomain for such a summoning build.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Your attempt to make it sound unreasonable is quaint. PFS has a track record of banning things that make the game environment disruptive. Blood Money fits that bill. GMs have the option of enforcing rarity in their games. Don't like it, don't play at their table.
A player in my Rise of the Runelords game is loosely based on Batman, calls himself The Hawk, and is obsessed with "Justice." Recently, they came across some art object value plates, and soon after were forced into a combat. The Hawk (who has Devoted Guardian and a high init) went first, and opened with the line "Justice will be served! But not on these plates, this is the fine china."
If you played at my table, you'd find that the only stats you can "milk" for Blood Money are your actual non-augmented stats, not boosts from belts, or spells, and if you sink any of those to zero, the usual effects will apply.
Or you could just enforce the actual rarity of a spell that has only ever been written in one spellbook ever and isn't intended for anyone lower than 12th level at minimum if you're willing to use an artifact that will make you insane eventually, or 18th if you're not.
Gregory Connolly wrote:
I wouldn't make a Sorcerer who was all about polymorphing, they have the best spell list in the game, why do something that prevents you from accessing it?
Lizardman from alter self has 3 primary natural attacks and you can still cast spells. Gargoyle from monstrous physique gets you four and you can still cast spells. Form of the Dragon gets you 5, and you can still cast spells. It's fairly easy for a polymorph focused sorcerer to still have access to his spells while polymorphed.
He doesn't. My statement of "always goes first" was only in reference to the Beastmass and vs One. Note that Vacuum was created specifically to handle the Beastmass, hence Jehova's focus on Mass Suffocation, since everything in Beastmass has to breathe. Obviously he's much less adept at handling other Beastmass contestants, as he wasn't designed with that in mind. Something similar could have been done with Imprisonment and he could be tweaked obviously to get a higher Init (he'd only need to get Improved Init from somewhere to go before the Magus), but that's getting into semantics. My only point about Vacuum was that (without the ioun stone that I always forget about) he would always beat One and can defeat all of Beastmass in a single day.
Except One will literally never get a chance to use that arrow, as Vacuum always, always, always goes first, and doesn't even really need to use Mass Suffocation honestly. He could just as easily Persistent Suffocation, and then One would have to roll 2 20s in a row to not die. One cannot beat Vacuum.
Also, casters can get high enough fort saves to pass a 29 DC. Karzoug has a +20. Vacuum only has a +14, but he doesn't really have to worry about making any saves since anything he encounters dies before they act.
Jehova didn't even spend all of a 20th level PCs wealth. There's roughly 300k gold floating in Vacuum's pool that he could spend to shore up any perceived weakness.
Jehova's Mass Suffocation Diviner, Vacuum, kills One without taking a point of damage unless One rolls a 20 on his Fort save. (DC 47 Mass Suffocation)
Vacuum was able to complete the first Beastmass in a single day, without re-memorizing spells or taking a single point of damage. No other Beastmass contestant really comes close.