Black_Lantern wrote:we all know you can do point buy to get max a stat for damage, so they can still compete, but in reality, would you dump a stat to get something to +5?Falcar wrote:
Full Orc fighter/ranger/paladin on a mount with spirited charge, weapon spec, and power attack against the favored enemy of an evil undead while Smiting 1D8+2 WS+6 PA +9 (1.5 STR) +2 FE +4 Smite =31 X 3 =93 and it ignored all DR. This also has very high chance to hit with a 7 BAB weapon focus, charge, favored enemy and smite (if positive charisma) giving a 12+ charisma bonus. That's about all I have right now, I'm sure there are others that hurt more but this is a strange character that can really hurt.
Or swap out fighter for paladin 6 ranger 1 to get
8+2+12+9+6 (37 X3 =117) (33.5 X3 =100 damage on average)
I think you're confused, he said no stats, so the exercise is pointless for martial classes to participate in.
Edit: I don't even know how one casts spells or qualifies for feats without items or stats.
I'm sorry, but the exercise makes no sense without incorporating stats and isn't fair without buffs and items.