Eric Saxon wrote:
I'm dumb founded by this post. But before I let that traverse into other stages of human emotion, let me ask some clarifying questions.
If you are coordinator for 10 GM's, and there is competition for 7 spots at a table...from 12 people...
The math just doesn't add up.
More importantly, if you are coordinating anything...and you have 10-12 players trying to play at one table...the math is EXTREMELY simple to figure out that it is time to step up and GM a table to make it so each table has 5 to 6 players.
Now Eric, I know you love pathfinder, but that isn't enough to build a community on. There is hard work, honesty, and most of all the willingness to accept anyone's play style as they see fit.
There is no burden on players to succeed at every mission. Failure, be it in a mission or life, is part of the story. It creates an opportunity to tell story and growth. On top of that...there is no such thing as bad/wrong/fun.
Let me explain bad/wrong/fun. That is the concept that someone else is doing it wrong...in a game, about creating a character and story. Pathfinder Society is closer to a collaborative storytelling process then a board game. Why do I say that? Because the goal is to have fun, however it is decided that you have fun.
If you have chosen for your version of fun to require the complete cooperation of everyone else at the table to follow a very strict guideline for character progression...then I think that's an expectation you should announce to everyone before you sit down at the table with them. More so, I think that expectation is unbecoming of someone who is a coordinator.
Eric...the reason I'm even commenting on this post is because I believe you are representing your opinion as the only one that applies to your area. Saying things such as "...I don't want your opinion, I want to role-play my PC even if he sucks..." is truly worrisome to those of us who actually coordinate large amounts of stores.
And just to be clear on the "I don't GM because I co-ordinate so many people".
I'm the VC of Seattle, we oversee 25 stores with 27 gamedays schedule per week. We now have 15 conventions we support, including PaizoCon and PAX Prime. We have a GM list that is 2 to 3 deep at each store, with some stores having a wait list to sign up to GM. We have other stores where I beg folks to travel to, to keep the GMimg going at so those few GM's in that area don't burn out.
My region geographically stretches 7 hours north to south, and 6 hours east to west. That's not counting Traffic. I've driven to EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY STORES, and find the time to visit them each at least once every 6 months.
I've GM'ed once in the last month, because I feel if I don't do at least that I am failing my team. I shut off my phone at the table and only responded to questions in email or text when the table was over...for PFS questions, of which there were 7 texts and 12 emails in that 5 hour period (it was a Saturday).
Coordinating 10 GM's in one day is a great undertaking, but it is never the reason to say you don't have time to GM.
If you have time to play, you have time to GM.
More then this, if you have time to come on here and post about your problems, you have time to sit down and prepare a scenario.
And on a final note...
Please consider GMing a table. It does wonders to leading a community, and being a coordinator.
For a samurai character this is what I recommend.
You're duty is to absorb everything!
Have a decent wisdom bonus. Why you might ask? For will saves. I know...I know it sounds funny, but your resolve allows you to roll two dice. And as a front line fighter, most baddies will want to target your will saves...so play into that by getting a decent will save vs mind affecting abilities.
Have a higher con the str. You don't need to hit hard, or alot, with your attacks. You will have many of them, they will most likely be two handed (Katana or bigger) and the strongest abilities of your class allow you to stay standing in negative hit points.
Again...resolve is amazing.
Third stat you want? Charisma. No one ever imagines a quiet in the corner all by himself meek little samurai. YOU ARE A PROUD SAMURAI WHO IS NOT AFRAID OF ANYTHING! And dump some points into intimidate.
Now you have an important choice to make, and that is your order. Whichever one you pick just remember, Samurai are not the "biggest most damaging all around class" in the game. They pick one target with challenge and then do AMAZING damage to that one target at a time. You are one of the best team shields with a single razor sharp spike.
I recommend taking orders and feats that don't help with damage with Samurai, but help increase your HP and ability to help others (combat reflexes/bodyguard/in harms way/toughness) but also consider iron will and greater iron will, and finally I would also consider any movement hampering abilities (stand still (comes on a order you can choose ;p).
Also...be flexible with your Samurai. Use reach weapons, ranged weapons, all sorts of weapons! Just save your favorite weapon (chosen at lvl 3) for emergency situations...why? Because you get to draw it out for free!
As for the archtype. If it's your flavor...go for it. Having a horse vs. not is the big question. For me? I prefer to run without the horse, only because I don't want to try and drag the horse through certain silly missions.
To sum up. Samurai =/= killer damage. Samurai = laugh at all the mean things the GM throws at me and keep standing.
Most important of all...Samurai is about attitude and character. Have some, be one. :)
It is my pleasure to invite up to the ranks of VO Erik Bridge.
Erik has been a backbone of the Washington Region. I've seen him grow from player only to one of our regular GM's and a someone who is always ready to fill the spot should we need a backup for anything.
I've leaned on Erik more times then I can count, and asked of him great amounts over the past 2 years. Erik has earned this promotion and I look forward to him continuing his level of involvement in PFS.
Thanks Erik and welcome to the team! Keep on make believen'!
I think what you should really do is sit down with this group and spend a session going over what about PFS they didn't like.
Is it the rules restrictions on character building? Or the way money is earned? How the scenarios are setup as "one shot" adventures?
There is much more detail that needs to be figured out with a group of gamers to figure out what the problem is. A knee jerk reaction of "PFS BAD! AP GOOD!" is a bit too caveman-ish.
Have an honest and open discussion about what type of game they want to play and the best way of going about that. Remember...certain AP's do give PFS credit.
While this is bound to get buried deep within the bowls of this thread I hope it's effectiveness stands out.
I would recommend that specific boons be handed to Venture Officers. Those Venture Officers then come up with their own criteria for non-convention attendance to award the "special" boons.
I was originally against this very proposed idea for one reason. It makes the local VO a point of contention and possible mistrust among their community if the perception of this award doesn't go out to whom individuals perceive should receive the boon.
I'm tossing that nay-say aside. We are community leaders and dealing with that should be our responsibility.
Folks who attend conventions should have the same award chance as those who don't. VO's do not "only" attend conventions.
On top of that...yes, I do think these boons should be handed out by the VO's and that people SHOULD have to interact with their local VO. It will help build the community, centralize it, and better yet create a flow of communication with the local coordinator, who then communicates back up to Mike.
These special boons should be handed out by Venture Officers as representatives of Paizo and community leaders.
Thanks for the feedback. I know the I will be taking into consideration the things mentioned here when I plan for PAX Prime next year.
Let me make a few notes...
Cleric should of been channeling for 2d6, not 3d6 ;p Mistakes happen, and my apologies if it led to a sour game.
The werewolf and "friend" have a listed AC of those numbers. There were other weaknesses in that scenario which made the encounter much, much easier. That scenario is designed to give the "I wanna hit things and kill it, all the time!" choice a run for it's money. If you bust out a will save...they have negatives in that department.
All of the scenarios were designed to be challenging for the CR of a table of 6 players...which allows the GM's to make or break the scenario.
As the coordinator of this event...I rely on my GM's to provide the best experience possible, and where they don't...I would love to know so I can sit down with them and go over how to improve.
I told all my GM's that the only death I would be eyeing them for is the one that happens without the players ever seeing it coming.
My two questions for everyone who gave, or will be giving feedback.
1. What would you do differently? (Some have answered ;p)
Ladies and Gents.
I want to share with you a story about Walter on this moment of his accomplishment.
When I first met Walter...it was because of his dedication to game. You see, he wanted cool prizes and boons for his people out in Pullman, a small college town far removed from everything PFS in our state.
So how did Walter achieve this? Why he drove 5 hours to one of our game days, sauntered up to me, introduced himself and before I could answer...asked "So how do I get you guys to come run cool events, with boons and prizes, all the way out in Pullman?"
To say his dedication has waned at all would be a farce.
He's traveled to PAX east to assist in running games, gathers 2 to 3 car loads of gamers to assist with Paizo con and PAX Prime. He spent two whole days at his local FLGS running We Be Goblins demos for new players to get them involved in his local community.
He traveled 9 hours, each way, to attend a small convention just to make sure we had a gaming presence there.
He attended his first gencon a couple weeks ago...as of course, a tier 1 volunteer.
Today we congratulate and recognize his dedication to our community, his tireless hours of effort and extraordinary contribution, by awarding him the coveted fifth star.
Well done Walter. Shine on my friend, and keep on make believin'.
We have new demos to run this year, and Pathfinder Adventure Path Card Game demo's as well!
As always...we will be bringing the best of the best GM's in the region to make this event stand out as a great place to bring your gaming friends to have their first Pathfinder experience.
And for the diehards that complete all 6 events this year, we have another pretty awesome special boon that is only available at PAX Prime!
Come check it out, and bring a friend or two...this is how I got started ;p
Hey there Renen13!
My name is Kyle Elliott (as noted above ;p) and I am the Venture Captain of the region. We currently have alot of games north and south of Auburn...mostly due to the fact that there is this weird void zone of gamestores between Seattle and Tacoma that stay open late enough for us to do our games.
We are currently looking at alternative sites to start up in the Kent/Auburn areas...but for now check out all the cool places we are currently at on nwpfs.org .
Jerall Toi wrote:
Ah-ha! I knew I missed something!
Plan to come to Paizocon at some point. I'll get you your beer there... ;p
The reason I PFS is...
This weekend at a local convention, DragonFlight 34, I found a connection with a fellow VC from South Africa.
I end up taking pictures and then speaking with a PFS player who noticed my Venture Captain red shirt I was wearing. He was playing a board game far and away from the PFS area but we sat and talked when their table took a quick break from an intensely long session they just had.
After a while I ask him one of my favorite questions to ask any fan of PFS. What is your favorite table you ever played at? The following is a para phrasing of what he said.
"My family and I went on a vacation to South Africa. (Cool Reasons that are personnel go here). One day my wife went off to do her thing and I had my two kids with me. My son is 8, my daughter 7. I looked up where there was a local game and took the kids down there to get some PFS in. You know, something familiar to them just to have fun for the day.
'Well...I show up and the Venture Captain has his two young kids with him that day, adorable little daughters. He sees me, notices my accent and we talk for a bit, and then he sits us down at his table and pulls out a scenario and holds it up for the kids to see...I ask him which one it is, to make sure I haven't played it before, and he goes "It's the one I wrote. It just came out."
'Best table by far for two reasons. 1. His daughters were taunting my kids to be braver at the table and run head long into combat and seeing the interaction between him and them as the GM was awesome. 2. The Venture Captain from another country took care of me and my kids like we were special guests far from home in a land we didn't fully know...and he pulled out the scenario he wrote, something I am sure he has read hundreds of times, something I am sure he was tired off, to give us the best experience possible in his territory."
With all of the complaining on the boards lately, I was getting dragged down in spirit by some of the heavy handed...concerns. I was honestly a bit down and out.
Then I heard the above story.
So first off...major Kudos to you Jerall Toi, VC of Cape Town. Not only did you send home an awesome experience with this guy, he is now joining my local community as a volunteer at conventions and regular game days because of you. I owe you a beer at the least and probably a decent meal on top of it for the amazing inspiration you were to this new PFS player and by extension to me as well.
Please share in this thread the cool stories you have heard from others about PFS. Don't tell us about yourself or your cool moment...tell me about someone else. Tell us about someone else. Be a storyteller and tell me...
...Tell me the reason you PFS?
Chelish Devil Dip
Goblin Ears seconded from post above
Entrees (all served with their choice of side)
The "Thuvian Market" A spicey market treat!
Squelly Nord again seconded from above.
The Absalom Harbor - because it has a little bit of everything in it...
River Kingdoms Combo - for those who want it all!
The Ulfen Dare!
Halfing Harvest Desert Pie
Hey Monkplayer :)
That weekend, the weekend of the 4th of July, has 17 different events that I know of where food trucks and catering teams will be.
They quite literally fill themselves to capacity at their facilities on everything they can, prep the night of the third and morning of the fourth, and usually sell through 90% of what they have on the 4th of July events they attend.
With it also being a holiday weekend, restocking is nearly impossible with the wholesalers that would supply them.
Any mobile food trucks would want a steady stream of people on that weekend to contiously pour in.
Having worked in the Seattle region as a wedding DJ and coordinator of events for years, I can say with certainty that a food truck won't even consider Paizocon2014 without a massive incentive or underlying guarantee.
A solution, however, would be to speak to the hotel for next year on offering cheaper, faster, and express style orders for folks an hour before each slot ends.
Have a couple hundred and cut pieces of paper with 6 options on each of them. You mark off what you want, your name, and pay for it...they will have it ready for you in one hour.
NORWESCON does an awesome job with getting the convention hotel (Doubletree down the street also in seatac) to provide a convention goers menu of items that are more affordable for everyone there.
It does 2 things for the hotel.
1. Guarantee more money goes to them instead of 7-11 or Denny's.
While option 2 for the Aqua Terra wouldn't be too much of an issue as they are already streamlined to under 20 items, it sure would make alot of sense for them to consider even a buffet or cafeteria style pay and go station just for lunch where they had the morning buffet. Even if this was a cold sandwhich line for only two hours.
Please help me in welcoming Stacey Buxton as our newest VL in the greater puget sound region!
Stacey has been with PFS since the beginning, GMing and making awesome things happen where ever he was needed.
Finally he takes up the mantle of the north end of our region, Everett. Where he will be focusing on 3 new stores, including the infamous AFK Tavern! A gamer themed and run diner/bar.
I am not certain if I am the one who started this idea...but I know we used it 2 years ago when we did our first big Year of the Shadow Lodge event in one of our game stores.
We took up their space prime time on a Saturday with 10 tables. I needed the event to be a success and show that we could bring in income for the store in a noticeable amount for RPG items on that day...and a free re-roll was instituted for anyone who purchased an item and showed the receipt to the GM.
The goal was to build a relationship with the store through promotion of sales and provide an incentive for players to spend their money at this location now instead of at their other store throughout our region.
Whenever we host an event at a store that is expected to take up a majority of their play space, we now use this rule.
We do so sparingly...but I also leave it up to each store coordinator to deem when they need to strengthen their relationship with a brick and mortar by using this on a game night.
This re-roll, in the grand scheme of things, is another form of a GM soft balling an encounter.
The majority of the time a re-roll is used to the players benefit. It will help them look "cooler", win a situation, or prevent damage/effects from occurring.
Since most GM's in my region know that TPKing a first steps table of new players is tantamount to community genocide in my region, I point out the obvious implications of what I am asking them to do. Soft ball to get the hook in for new players. GM's also have moments where they feel a table is no longer having any fun and they will adapt the encounter to revitalize the groups enjoyment.
I will admit...the best games I've ever had in an RPG is when I am losing, I know I am losing, but having a great time anyway. The GM's that can do that are worth their weight in gold.
This re-roll for in store purchase becomes a retail cycle that puts form to the things we already encourage our GM's to do...give the players "a break" and let them shine as heroes.
WOOHOO!!!! BUDDHA SAVES!!!!
Liz Courts wrote:
*Dives for Cover* I'm a person! I'm a person!
Thank you to everyone who helped with setup, clean up, and show up.
The silence of the valley has finally set in.
The only sign of the party that remains is a single tent. It's lone guardian keeping vigil over the weary pathfinders, his dog slicer more of a cutter now. From ear to ear his toothy grin reflects the light of the bonfire.
Some might say he is smiling because of the party.
I say he is smiling because he knows what is yet to come.
Thoughts of a Party Organizer:
Do I have enough food?
The caterer says it will take a miracle to eat everything I've ordered...
Do I have enough beer?
The brewery emailed me the proper way to dispose of any beer we don't consume...they don't know I invited aussies...
Do I have enough other drinks?
The tower of water almost fell over when I tried to count it...
What else do I need?
Continue to stress about it until the party is done...?